#and the audacity to still tag endos-dni

[marbles-for-breakfast]

I mean, no one actually knows for certain how traumagenic systems form either. The theory of structural dissociation is pretty speculative when it comes to DID. We don’t know exactly what causes most brain differences. The brain is really complicated, and even when we’re able to pinpoint what about the brain causes the differences, the WHY of it is impossible to determine with any sort of certainty in the vast, vast majority of cases.

But aside from that, why do we need to know exactly how we formed in order to accept that this is how we are? Is it really so unbelievable that some people are just born this way? If being plural/multiple is something that can happen, which it obviously is, why are we so sure it can only be caused by one thing? How would you even prove WHY someone is plural/multiple? And if you can’t prove why someone is plural/multiple, how can you prove that all systems are caused by trauma? And if we can’t prove that, why are people so certain? Because it’s not from looking at the science.

So, does telling other people they’re not valid make you feel more valid? Does telling yourself a bunch of tumblr/twitter users are the reason you’re not accepted feel more manageable than grappling with the reality of society’s ableism? Are you simply in an echo-chamber of misinformation and demonizing of other perspectives?

I have an honest and non-judge mental suggestion for the asker here. If you really want to know what someone believes, ask THEM. I know endos can probably be a little hostile to anti-endos because of the whole telling-us-that-our-material-reality-is-fake thing, but I’m sure some people would be willing to be patient and respectful. A lot of us really do just want anti-endos to listen and try to understand. That’s why I try to come across as kindly as I can (even though people can read whatever tone they want into my words), and all I really do is try to explain.

I see some genuine questions on this blog, which makes me sad because I know they’re not going to find any answers here, so I try to give my own and I hope the original question-askers will see them. I just wanna have a genuine conversation where my own existence isn’t called into question or framed as a debate. I just want to refine my opinions and expand my knowledge.

I want to learn about my own system through talking to others. I can’t do that if the tag I’m using is filled with people trying to tell me that we must have some secret hidden trauma we have no evidence for, and if we don’t, we’re not real. Does no one think it’s a bad idea to tell someone who might very well have a dissociative disorder that they’re not real?

Just…. just listen to people when they tell you what their experiences are. That’s all I want. It’s all I ask. I don’t need to give you a source for my experiences being real. It should go without saying that in a space like this, we should believe each other when we talk about our lives. Why does that suddenly stop when it no longer fits the narrative you were told when you first learned about DID? Why is it unthinkable that what you first heard isn’t the full story? Isn’t that usually the case with stuff like this?

Anyway, the only way we’re going to move forward with our understanding of osddid and multiplicity/plurality as a whole is by first believing each other. Or at least being willing to believe SOME things. At least be willing to LISTEN. Again, that’s all I ask. Other endos/inclusivists who feel similarly, lmk. I want to get a sense for how many people feel this way.

this might be a rude thing to ask but i'm not even a system and i'm just curious like. how do endos think systems work? like. how would it form without trauma? spontaneously?

i don't know ... It's honestly confusing

[deandraxon]

I could’ve been meaner. I could’ve actually directly commented on the note that pissed me off. But I was nice. I even tagged it “endos dni” so you pussies could have it on your blacklist and not have to see it.

And some pansy still made their way into my askbox with the audacity to tell me I “contradicted myself” as if it’s impossible to know that most people probably don’t have bad intentions, while still being pissed at the harm they’re doing and acknowledging that some of them are just malicious.

Never attribute to malice what could be pure ignorance I always say, but that doesn’t magically make the ignorance okay. And some of y’all are fucking idiots.

I will never, NEVER questions anyone’s status as a system, but I will call out your ignorant asses and tell you to fuck off.

[queerautism]

The audacity that person has to tag their stuff with “System positivity” and also “Endo apologists dni” and then to act like their hatred of endogenic systems wasn’t Heavily Implied. Like, buddy, you’ve pretty much suggested their friends and supporters or anyone who stands up for them are “apologists” what do you EXPECT?? Also; Imagine acting like putting something like that in the tag isn’t just. Absolutely misery inducing, even if they have tags blocked and stuff. They still get to be reminded their existence is so hated and hotly debated that people have demanded they not interact with their system content

Exactly!!! Imo it doesn't even matter if you call it hate or not, either way it's absurd to pretend it's not done out of a desire to alienate endogenic systems AND their traumagenic supporters