#and tbh there is a lot of evidence for both. im still going with Barry but hey he could be Wally's for all i know
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I'm thinking that when he says this:
He's gotta mean the future, right? The Earth at this point is entirely drained and dying so it can't be anywhere on Earth. He might be talking about another universe or something but idk. I'm betting it's the future. (Especially with how Max was trying to go there in the beginning, it ties that plotline back in)
But also look at these two. This is practically the same person.
Even comparing him to Linda and Irey, he still resembles Bart more.
Also! They made him Tornado Twin purple in the group shot!
Really throwing my 2 cents out there, that the mysterious young man in OMW is related to Bart somehow. Like their physical resemblance, maybe that both of them have a grumpy mood.
But more important I think, I still believe it wasn't a coincidence that Bart was the one that feel attracted to find him when he was in that battery (and randomly Bart decided steal it at all costs), if it wasn't for that they wouldn't even find him.
I am standing with @givemewallywestorgivemedeath's theory that it is some version of Don but honestly he could be a rando speedster or Bart's own child or nephew from some other reality.
If Adams doesn't give us something about this dude I am going to be disappointed. It is a fair move on his part to make him a random new face in the lineup of speedsters but it would be really disappointing I feel.
If he is a random new character, then I hope he becomes an interesting new regular.
#this dude is driving me insane because all his little cut off sentences clearly indicate that he is someone#he's got a secret mysterious backstory and it will have to pay off#so its literally down to 'is he Wally's kid or Barry's kid?'#and tbh there is a lot of evidence for both. im still going with Barry but hey he could be Wally's for all i know#one thing though is people think he's Wally's son because of the flash forward to Wallys son being kidnapped in the OMW special#but that wasn't a dystopian future. that was just a normal timeline. and this kid outright states that he was from a bad future#he was a parole officer of sorts or whatever he said#so... yeah.. no.. Wally and Linda wouldn't let their kid do that. and the OMW special had the whole Flash fam alive as well#so he's not from that timeline#i do think that this is increasingly looking like Barry and Iris' kid that ISN'T Don and i will be upset if they introduce a new West Allen#without the twins#i will be very upset
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Im trying to think of questions bc i love these children but i cant so just. Yell about them? What are they like when theyre in fantasy higj school? What are their friends like? Do carey and killian slay at the pta meetings? Do they go to taakos school? What shenanigans do they get away with? What shenanigans DONT they get away with? This is all important information
i somehow forgot to mention this in the original post but johann, a dragonborn, is super purple and, despite being small as a baby/kid, he grows up to be, like, six and a half feet tall. noelle, an orc, was the taller of the two until johann was in his teens (he’s two years older than noelle) but she’s still over six feet tall and an absolute powerhouse
they all tower over carey and it’s not even like carey is incredibly short (i picture her at, like, 5′7), she’s just in a house full of giants
it’s obvious, as the kiddos get older, to see which of their family members had more of an influence on them than others (besides carey and killian bc both moms can be seen in the kids). johann is good at things “accidentally” ending up in his room (or his pockets). noelle loves to garden and seems to have a bit of an affinity for it. johann, despite not always gearing towards academia, loves to write. noelle can wield an axe with the best of them. davenport actually helped out with teaching johann how to drive (wagons, obvi, and totally not fantasy cars), and eventually taught him how to captain a boat, too. barry lets noelle in on all his scientific studies and he even shows her some of his necromantic studying, though that’s their little secret from kravitz.
also there’s def more little ways of seeing all the birds +co. in the kiddos, this is just 1) the first time i’m actually able to develop these kids outside of my own head, and 2) this is currently just me rattling off whatever i can think of rn
they’re both kinda jocks in fantasy high school, and then noelle also falls into the nerd category while johann is, like, a three-way cross between jock/prep/goth. also noelle is absolutely the one studying for exams while running on a treadmil
i don’t have a huge mental spreadsheet on their friends, but i can def say that the sweet flips household is practically a second home to all of their friends!!! as the kids get older, it’s common for at least one friend to always be sleeping over bc their house just radiates warmth and love.
johann does have a serious boyfriend when he’s 17 (and older) though!!! he’s a gnome and, okay, originally this was a normal dnd oc for me and i was making fun of my own shitty naming conventions so i just said that his name was “guy” but let’s just say, in this fiction, “guy” is short for something ajksjkdjkf. but yeah he’s a gnome and his class is barbarian and he can wield a huge axe (beefy gnome) and, again, still developing a lot of this fiction i’ve made in my head, but the way i kinda see johann and guy working out is that, like, they’re both pretty Up There people and super loud and bold and, to make a reference, very “rushing in” type of people? guy in a more “magnus” way, and johann in a very “holy shit i didn’t think this through but now it’s too late to bail” way. but, together? they almost calm each other down and they’re quiet and peaceful with each other and, it’s not that they tire each other out or bore each other, but it’s more so the fact that they don’t feel the need to be all “out there” most of the time. and for johann, guy kinda gives him the chance to actually just relax? like, he was a super shy kid, and while he did “grow out of it,” he sometimes feels that introversion again so, instead of overcompensating and forcing himself to be super uppity, guy lets him just relax.
the entire family loves guy but he was absolutely terrified to meet all of them because “johann i don’t know how else to tell you this, but it’s kinda intimidating when your boyfriend’s family consists of the most important people in the world”
**the boyfriend’s name is so subject to change, i’m just shit at naming
oh they absolutely dominate the pta. carey is more so the mom who brings stuff in for, like, bake sales and shit like that (with the help of taako and lup because “guys you don’t understand, i need to be better than helen or else i will never hear the end of it”). they’re both the super intimidating parents when people mess with their kids. carey more so on the “i can rob you blind and you would have no evidence to prove it” spectrum. killian on the “i have very big arms and an even bigger crossbow but, oh yeah, do that again” spectrum
johann goes to taako’s school (which taako loves bc johann thinks the dueling is hysterical and he’s actually a pretty good student and also ren is one of johann’s favorite teachers/administrators). noelle goes to lucas’s school and taako will forever be offended
taako, every time he sees noelle after she enrolls: betrayed by my own flesh and blood
noelle: uncle taako, lucas’s school just had the program i-
taako: i am DONE with all of your EXCUSES
later on, though, taako ends up having a two hour chat with the both of them, asking them how school is going and if they need any help
taako is a softie for these kids but he also has a reputation to uphold
shenanigans they do get away with: lup teaching johann and noelle minor evocation spells (like firebolt and dancing lights), letting tres horny boys + sloane and hurley take them for a safe ride in a battle wagon, they once somehow convened with the raven queen and istus and pan and to this day no one knows how but no one ever said that they couldn’t do it, sneaking out (because both killian and carey know when they’re sneaking out, since carey is super rogue and killian was used to sneaking herself and her sisters out when they were younger)
shenanigans they absolutely do not get away with: barry showing noelle a bunch of necromantic ritual circles, davenport letting johann captain a boat when he’s ten, johann illusioning a door and “come get y’alls juice”-ing noelle, noelle supplexing johann across the house, lup teaching them firebolt, johann hotwiring a battlewagon and noelle driving the both of them an hour out of the city to go see a show (“you two could have asked for permission. we would have said yes.” “yeah but where’s the teenage rebellion in that.”)
tbh i’m an only child so i never know how my sibling dynamic stuff comes across, but i try pulling from the dynamic i have with my two cousins (who are basically like my older and younger brothers) and also i just really dig siblings being best friends, like, maybe that’s the “i kinda really wish i had siblings” thing in me but akjsjkdkjfkj
i thought up team sweet flips’ kids and im low key taking questions abt them
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