#and some opinions that idk if they're unpopular but they r the words of a hater

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[angeloncewas]

hot take: the dwt2 subreddit was extremely overhyped and is pretty much a circlejerk of dream stans who think they’re better than other dream stans because they use reddit. i thought it’d be a cool place of discourse and instead it just feels like a different a set of edgy teenagers who don’t know what they’re talking about. also yeah it’s actually kinda anti-black. ppl weren’t lying about that bit it just took a while for it to really come out.

SPICY. Especially on this blog because I think I've got some lurking Redditors on here (unless they fled at some point LOL).

Hot take: I actually very much agree (though I would've worded it a bit differently... stan circlejerk... /lh)

There was a period of time where I would stop by the Reddit every so often out of a mix of curiosity (what's up) self-interest (do they talk about me) and genuine engagement (tea). I fell off these past couple of months (? maybe month singular, idk) as I've been busy - and when I went back and checked the other day the vibes were so... off. Everything about it, from the posts to the comments to the kinds of conversations there were having, felt very strange to me. Rougher, almost - especially with all the posts lamenting r/dwt2's glory days.

I admire everything that the subreddit is meant to be and I commend them in many ways for sticking to their convictions. They do as they will do and they don't often let shit get in the way of what they think is right or correct (it seems). Not to mention the knowledge that Dream lurks sometimes - while I do my best to stick to my "don't change for anybody" policy, I don't know what this blog would be if I knew Dream checked up on it (not that that would happen, but yk).

That being said, I think they've fallen into the anti-mcyttwt-trap (a la Jawsh) where instead of just being wary of the more aggressive critics on Twitter, they are largely dismissive and seek to always have the "unpopular" opinion. I saw a lot of posts talking about how everyone's a Dream stan on the Reddit now and how frustrating that is, but I think that isn't the problem so much as their mindset itself - why is it a problem that people like Dream if it's still just a place for open discussion? You can like Dream and be validly critical of his actions or opinions. It felt, to me, more like a frustration toward the way some people don't constantly go against the grain anymore. It reminds me of the days when I was sucked into exclusionary circles and we thrived off of disagreeing just to disagree - it's not that we didn't buy it, I think r/dwt2 is honest about their opinions - but I think their long-standing (and very justified) animosity toward people outside of their circles has led them in what's essentially the opposite direction. And I really think they could stand to take into consideration what people on Twitter are saying/why/what they mean/etc (for example - there's loads of little things like that and it's not always Twitter); sometimes the popular opinion is popular for a reason, and sometimes creators fuck up and should acknowledge it.

I am an outsider, so I want to make it clear that it's possible they're thriving and I'm just not getting it. I'm sure there's mcytblr jokes/culture/etc that would make people in the other parts of the fandom go ???? But - as someone who really tries to curate a variety of viewpoints and discuss the goings-on in the fandom (and who admired the r/dwt2 community for that shared interest) - I see them doing exactly what I worried a lot of these people turning on the "rabid twt stans" would do - and not even recognizing that they're doing it.

(I won't speak on the anti-blackness specifically because I haven't seen any of it and don't feel fit for that, but I'm sorry you've had to deal with that if so.)

[riverswater]

Louies tag game! ☀️

Sooo, amazing Emmanuelle @quelsentiment, Emma @essercipertuttienonperse and Anni @whatagreatproblemtohave tagged me to do the loveliest tag game I’ve seen in a while

1) When did you become a Louie?

Back in 2014, despite all my best efforts to "love them all equally" fjshfj he's like that cat that screams at you until you adopt him, and it worked like a charm for me. It was just a slight preference back then, but then I took a break from this band and tumblr in 2016/2017, and when I came back in 2018 I didn't stand a chance, I was completely gone for him 🥺💘

2) Why did you become a Louie?

HAVE YOU SEEN HIM FKSHFJS no but, really?? He shines so bright. I don't have the words sometimes to descrive him, but he always stood out so much to me. How incredibly funny he has always been, so quick-witted, always the one with the best comments. His voice is so special, too, I've never heard someone like him before, and I always loved how despite not being given many solos at the start he kept fighting for himself. And I liked the song written by him sooo much more than the one written by the others fksjfkd (which are still good obviously! Personal preference and all). Idk there are so many moments that have been special for me, like "so I dialed nine", HIM WITH KIDS!! "that's called a cruise", his face when asked about juice cleanses JFJSJF I just, love him a lot okayyyy

3) One thing that drew you in specifically?

Okay 2014 was a year full of events and special moments but what really changed me as a person was Louis wearing the rainbow Apple t-shirt after Tim Cook came out. The courage? The slap in the face to everyone who doubted him? He was so happy and proud of himself (so much a printed one of those photos and taped it to my closet) and I have allllways had a preference for rebellious people. The one who recognize the unfair situations they're in, and fight against them. The ones who have the strength to pick themselves up and go for another round. I admired his pride and his courage so much that day, and I still do.

4) Who would you want Louis to collab with?

Apart from the obvious, you say? With the people he admires the most. I love Oasis and Green Day, and despite both being old as fuck (and the first one don't even exist as a band anymore) I think he'd love that. Or with all the bands and singers he's nominated in the past years: Sam Fender, Bear's Den, Catfish and the Bottlemen, and so many more I don't remember whoopsie 😔

5) Favourite song on Walls?

This changes all the time, for sure at least every week. I think lately I've come back to WE Made It. I could talk for hours about that song, it's PERFECT. The harmony throughout the whole song.... Chef kiss.

6) Favourite hairstyle?

This is like picking a favorite child..... Umh.... I am and will always be punk and emo trash, and screamo Louis is so important to me

LOOK!! AT!!!! HIM!!!!! But peaky blinders is excessively hot as well

Like look at this man I'd go to w*r for him

7) Back to you, just hold on, or miss you? (or just like you?)

Miss You is for sure the closest one to my personal taste, and the video and everything about it is just, so much and way too good. But I can't choose between that and Just Like You, because it has that subversiveness that I admire so much, the same of the rainbow shirts and the polari shot 🏳️‍🌈

8) Louis in suits or sweaters?

Louis looks insanely good in suits, so for my own personal sanity I'm gonna say sweaters. Even if.... I mean...

Is this man real? Jury's still out about that

9) Favourite tattoo?

Unpopular opinion I don't love his tattoos that much 😔 KDHSJFJSK but I think Far Away is in the perfect placement, and I love the symbolism of the rope being open between the quotation marks

10) Favourite Louis photo (currently)?

Umh..... Idk!! I'm gonna dump some here

These have my heartttt

11) Random Extra

I've loved Louis for so long that now my last obsession is so weird but LET ME DO MY THING. Louis' eyes are..... A bit far apart. Just a smudge. And I'm in love with that, like look at this

You could fit a lil kiss SO WELL there. I think it gives him such a delicate, special vibe I'm in love 😭💘

Hiii I'm not sure who has done this already?? Maybe @lad-boyo @darkrainbowlouis @blulouisboi @lou-almighty @wallsvinyl @lou-bby @theparisinterview ☀️☀️☀️