August 16th, 2018 CTP Archive
The archive for the Comic Tea Party chat that occurred on August 16th, 2018, from 5PM - 7PM PDT. The chat focused on Raison d'Etre by Cloud Fourteen (Funari and Leigh).
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✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
COMIC TEA PARTY START!
Good day everyone~! This week’s Comic Tea Party is now officially beginning~! Today we are discussing Raison d'Etre by Cloud Fourteen (Funari and Leigh)~! (http://raisondetrecomic.tumblr.com/) For those new or in need of a reminder, discussions about the comic are freeform, so please feel free to bring up whatever you wish. However, every 30 minutes I will be dropping in a discussion question to help those who would like a prompt. These questions are totally OPTIONAL to answer, and you can pay them no mind if you wish. If you miss out on any though, they’ll be pinned for the duration of the chat once they’re posted~! Remember, constructive criticism is allowed, but the primary focus here is to have fun and appreciate the amazing comics that the community makes~! All that being said, let’s get started and have a great discussion!
QUESTION 1. What is your favorite scene in the comic so far and why?
snuffysam
my favorite scene is the scene where inada gives yukina the journals, but only on a second reading. "hey tante, can you help me research-" "what's that? you wanted my sister's diary? you wanted my big sister's deepest, darkest secrets? you wanted to learn the most intimate details of your mothers' lives? that's what you wanted?"
Funari
Mueheheh~ Yeah, we love putting in stuff like that. Seemingly innocent comment at first, but during a reread? BONUS!
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
in the retrospect i can only suspect inada was saving them for blackmail O_O
Funari
Little siblings...they can be such brats ;P
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
lets see, lets see. i think my favorite scene is when yukina is in the shadow place because i really like the tension of shit hitting the fan, the visuals, and then the comedic end where yukina and rie just wind up in a pile.
Funari
Ah, yes. Chapter 5 was when Leigh started putting in her two cents more into the story. I don't recall who came up with the exact direction there BUT that was a good one. It kinda encompasses Raison's story style as a whole - can get serious but then it has its comedic moments just kinda "whoop!" right back
A roller coaster of emotions
snuffysam
i really like that comedic aspect too
like in the story being told about miko and sachiko rescuing nozomi
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
I'm pretty bad for being able to figure out relationships unless they're spelled out in black and white myself. Even the big reveal of "Kaa-san", I don't remember how long it took until I clued in to there being two mothers.
snuffysam
i think "oh, she's their daughter" was the first thing i thought of, but the way the characters' talked threw me off
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
LOL. i guess thats fair though. not sure how much anime you watch cause if you dont watch anime, yeah, kaa-san would probably just go right over.
Funari
Leigh: The "rescuing Nozomi" story was one of the first stories I was asked to help with back in Part 1. I've looked forward to that scene finally playing out, and was not disappointed!(edited)
snuffysam
i like how japanese mom is kaa-san and french mom is maman lol(edited)
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
My favourite scene was actually pretty early on. It was when Kregor was going after Sachiko saying something to the effect of "this should be easy" only to have Miko disarm his dagger and get into a whole fight.
Funari
Leigh: Made life a little easier as far as trying to write for these idiots ;p(edited)
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
In a sense it helped set up his other flailed attempts.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
another scene that i really liked was when yukina learned about the ascendent and decided that perhaps she should stop hiding and all that. i feel that was portrayed in a powerful direct effect of reading the journal.
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
(Yes, I meant flailed not failed.)
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
any scene with kregor is a classic because kregor is that right mix of overconfident and screw up
Funari
Poor Kregor~
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Rebel: I watch anime. I got the reference, I didn't put two and two together that Miko and Sachi were married.
Funari
Leigh: I'm working on a page with Kregor at this very moment. So he's not going anywhere soon!(edited)
snuffysam
it's the first thing we learn about them math!
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Snuffy: I did think that was clever about the two language mothers.
I have the mind of a goldfish!
Rebel: Yeah, that whole ascendent thing was good. I liked the side story of her with her mother too.
snuffysam
"eh, i just sort of forgot about this canon f/f ship" - math, 2018
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
We were in the future though!
Funari
A little something from Maman, and a little something from Kaa-san ;p
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
I'm used to seeing them younger and courting.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Hello!
snuffysam
hey sj!
Funari
Hello there :3
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
(I'll be a bit in-and-out with my 2 month old, btw.)
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
hey sj~!
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
I see you're one of the creative talents responsible for this comic, @Funari
Really nice efforts ya got here!
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
well the important part, math, is that you figured it out eventually and saw that those ship sails moved at full force.
Funari
Thank you :3 I created the universe and the basic plot and some of the cast. Leigh created the other half of the cast and has helped string the plot together a bit better since chapter 5 :3
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Ah okies!
Always appreciate a good team effort.
Also was not expecting that four year timeskip
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
yeah i have to say the timeskip surprised me too. not that it was unwelcome, mind you, just something that made me go legasp
Funari
I don't think anyone was, according to folks over at the c14 server or anyone who's commented to us besides one friend lol
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
lol
Funari
Ever since Leigh started contributing more, it made twists even more likely. Sometimes she'll suggest an idea and smirk at me from across the room and...oh boy.. xD
snuffysam
yeah i was figuring part 2 would begin with the gang immediately going to rescue them but nope
it was a cool twist!
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
lol XD
AV-chan
Hi, just dropped by to join the Raison discussion party here Favorite scenes? I think it's mostly the ones with Miko and Sachiko especially when they were in their teens
Funari
Leigh: smirks
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Also just wanted to say this is a really good suit https://78.media.tumblr.com/ea04508234ff49e7d6b78458cef47714/tumblr_inline_nal653HGRk1r87x2y.png
Funari
Hey AV! :3
snuffysam
but yeah @AV-chan , i absolutely agree
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Hello AV!
snuffysam
seeing miko and sachiko interact as teens is just the best
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
welcome @AV-chan ~! thank you for coming!
AV-chan
Hiya everyone
snuffysam
they're so perfect together!
AV-chan
I know right, it's just so cute seeing them get together
Funari
Leigh: I do love a woman in uniform @Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
miko and sachiko have a really nice and fluffy relationship so seeing them together is a happy thing :3
Funari
Awwww
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Women in univerm are always so awesome
especially the battle-ready ones
Funari
Leigh: Heheh~ YES! Sword Wife!
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
A good sword wife
AV-chan
Totally
Funari
It personally makes me gush that you guys love the SachiMiko interactions x3
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Sweet to hear~
AV-chan
Maybe soon with Yucchan too but that's probably not gonna happen any time soon I think
Funari
Leigh: Smirks
snuffysam
i seem to recall on some page where yukina's mom (not sure which) called to her from off-screen, there was an author comment that went something like "i have no idea what her parents' designs will be lol"
that was a nice touch
Funari
laughs
AV-chan
I think it's mostly cause how I somehow witness the development and changes to your OCs Funari that makes me very interested in them as well
snuffysam
though to be fair, we hadn't seen what miko and sachiko looked like as adults yet, so that wasn't necessarily a lie
Funari
Leigh: I knew that Nari had been hanging with me for too long when that popped up!
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Oh yeah, then it was a hat hiding things. Was that an accident?
Like, saying that?
Funari
That's the point! @snuffysam xD
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
speaking of designs tho, i really do like the adult designs for them. especially how sachiko has this sort of grizzled look now cause of the eyepatch
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
https://78.media.tumblr.com/bc036315fd6b663afa1ffaffa11a5e89/tumblr_p9i9zvvI3w1tzfltho1_1280.png Wow, the future sure looks... different.
Funari
Don't quite get what you mean there @MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑 Just want to be sure I know what you're talking about before I answer
AV-chan
A traditional house in the future?
snuffysam
people have traditional houses today, don't they?
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
QUESTION 2. Throughout the comic, we continually see the appearance of Kregor who is out to cause a lot of harm at the behest of his boss, Lady Elianne. What do you think is so special about Sachiko’s blood? Does it have something to do with Allie or is something else afoot? Why do you think Lady Elianne targets Sachiko specifically and not anyone else in her family? Do you think Lady Elianne will ultimately succeed, or will everyone be able to stop her? Who even is Lady Elianne? Outside of Sachiko, Kregor also hunts Yukina’s friend Rie at the behest of the Tanuki Brothers. Do you think the initial failure will deter Kregor from trying again? If Kregor doesn’t try again, do you believe the Tanuki Brothers will leave Rie alone? If Kregor does try again, will he succeed or will something else stop him?
Funari
Stuff has happened to both between their teenaged years and when they're moms. Meta-wise, we're also not fans of works where adult forms of characters almost look exactly the same as the young forms but with smaller eyes or the like
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Yes, we do
snuffysam
it's clear that there's something important about the nakamura bloodline
Funari
The idea behind the Miyamotos' house is that was to hammer down the idea that they were pretty traditional. At least since Nozomi got married.
(and there are still traditional homes in Japan today ;P )
AV-chan
Ooh that's true
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
aah, alright X3
snuffysam
plenty of houses that are around today were built centuries ago, and plenty of modern houses try to imitate houses from centuries ago
AV-chan
That part with Sachiko being hunted has always piqued my curiosity in a way, like what's gonna happen next
Funari
Oh and my reaction to Question 2? ohhhhh that's pretty much what Part 2 is all about! So I'll just keep myself "quiet"
snuffysam
well we know what did happen next
Funari
And Leigh is saying she's just gonna keep smirking, so not much input from her either lol
snuffysam
lost her depth perception, for one
gained a shadow friend
Funari
True, very true...for the depth perception bit
Shadow friend? Ohhhhhh that happened sooner in her life
AV-chan
An interesting twist there
snuffysam
i mean "next" being after the latest journal entry that yucchan read
i don't think we've seen allie in any journal entries so far?
Funari
Nope, not in journals, though there is a Special comic that shows a specific moment in Sachiko's life relating to that
https://imgur.com/a/Q4J7v
snuffysam
i bet everyone is super jealous of yucchan's three moms
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
"How do you even get three mommies?"
snuffysam
japanese mom, french mom, and shadow mom
Funari
Leigh: Hey, I'M jealous of her moms!
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
so in respects to the question, i recall elianne referring to the thing as a curse and how its killed her ancestors. but im starting to wonder if its not something on her mother's side but something on her father's side. because nobody on her mother's side seems at all bothered by any sort of curse and what not and it fits why kregor is targetting sachiko and not say her brother.
AV-chan
That's an interesting way to put it
I forgot if Sachiko's brother had a different dad
snuffysam
he did
Funari
He does!
Also BOOM! Good catch, @✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨ !
AV-chan
Ah that most likely it
Funari
Hayato was born through Rin's marriage with Japanese businessman Daichi Nakamura. Sachiko was....well, by all means, an illegitimate child from a guy in France that Rin knew
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Back, sorry @Funari ; I think what I was wondering was were Yukinas parents always decided from the start, and it was how they looked in the future that gave rise to the hat, or was the scene with her parents evolving as that scene began.
Funari
@MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑 Yukina was always intended to be Sachiko and Miko's kid. Her meta-conception was pretty much that basic idea
But, ahem, yeah. Something's going on with Sachiko's paternal blood that's related to Elianne. Some big stuff
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Oh yeah, Sachiko's dad is actually the head of some other huge NKP department or something... that's probably the reason the hit was put out on her?
Funari
The Rin (Favreau) side of things is mostly just "Oh, this family is one of the famous clans in the NKP!"
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i wonder if sachiko's dad knew about this so-called curse?
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Lady Elianne is Sachiko's step-mom.
Don't want her getting the inheritance.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
oh no the mom count increases to four now
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Mum's the word.
snuffysam
what's with men not telling their partners about their bloodline stuff lol
Funari
That was Leigh. This is what I put up with when she inks pages
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Hah! That's funny. Nice heart for penache.
AV-chan
Haha
Funari
Also, Math, you are NOT the only one who has mentioned a theory that Elianne is related to Sachiko like that
I can't say yes or no though
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
it seems plausible given elianne keeps saying the blood belongs to her. and thats usually something ppl say when theyre blood-related
and theyre evil that is
snuffysam
that's also the sort of thing you say if you're evil and want blood
like in general
AV-chan
Inb4 something like Elianne is the mother of Sachiko's dad
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Or they're vampires.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
or both
elianne is sachiko's vampire granny
AV-chan
Yeah
Funari
Leigh: Isn't that the usual plot twist nowadays?
AV-chan
It's still a good twist
Funari
Elianne is....SOMETHING!
Leigh: She's a real piece of work. A real PAIN IN THE PATELLA
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
I wonder
Doesn't anyone else in the roster have badass suits?
AV-chan
Wanna see Yukina in that suit soon
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Speaking of Kregor - does the guy have good lawyers, or what? He keeps getting banished to be tried for his crimes, and he keeps getting off... sometimes even portaling away before he can be banished. Who is paying his legal fees?(edited)
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
it is a nice suit
Funari
The most we got right now is this
AV-chan
Elianne maybe?
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
elianne of course
assuming she doesnt just bust him out of jail by other means
Funari
It's Elianne :P
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
She's a rules lawyer too then.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
speaking of kregor though, i do wonder for real if rie is still in danger. cause didnt kregor already get paid?
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
"You didn't inflect properly, so my client goes free."
AV-chan
That long hair... Yukina grew her hair?
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
its bad assassin form to take the money and not finish the job
Funari
Rie is out of danger
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
dat suit
I'll take it
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Rie's mom might still pay a ransom.
Funari
Elianne has been working on something that's far more significant than the Rie thing and when Kregor told her he missed and hit Sachiko and Miko instead with her spell, she was like "Oh. OH. NEVER MIND ABOUT THE TANUKIS."
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
"Ship... out of danger?" "You saved the ship." "The needs of the many..."
Funari
Kregor would do anything for Elianne by the way
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
He would do anything for love. But he won't do that.
AV-chan
That thing huh
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
That thing with the strawberries.
Funari
Also, Nozomi is on HIGH ALERT for Kregor to show up, so even if he tried to finish the deed, he's not gonna
Nozomi...is a tough little firecracker
With a crossbow
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Lol
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i feel like this is gonna put them on the tanuki's shit list though then? cause id be pretty mad if i paid an assassin and then they were like "sorry bro my lady says we got better shit to do peace out."
Funari
Leigh: Tanuki vs Elianne. Round 1 (ding)
snuffysam
no refunds!
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
FIGHT!
Funari
Leigh: No, for real, they're welcome to try it
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
true i dont imagine theyre actually a threat XD
but they could at least go around spreading ill founded gossip
the horror
QUESTION 3. Chapter 6 of the comic is a four year time skip after Lady Elianne inadvertently captures Sachiko and Koyomiko. What do you think Yukina has been doing for the four years? Has she been in France the whole time, or do you think she came back to Japan at some point? How do you think Yukina has been coping with her missing mothers, and what do you think she intends to do about it? In regards to other characters, how do you think they’re doing? Is Rie okay, or has something happened because of her grandmother’s heir? Do you think Rie’s mother is doing okay as captain, and what do you think the state of her marriage is? Are Sachiko and Koyomiko alive still, and if so, why haven’t they escaped? What, in general, do you think is going to happen now?
snuffysam
they'll hit lady elianne where it hurts - her wallet. leave a bad review, and nobody will hire her again.
Funari
As I read this question out to Leigh, she got this HUGE smile on her face
I think she likes this question :P
snuffysam
and yeah i think things aren't looking great for nozomi. a guy kidnapped her best friends in an attempted kidnapping of her daughter, all because her husband didn't tell her anything
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Probably stayed in France for two years then came back to Japan the final two
Just having a four year-long vacation
Funari
An interesting theory
Also @snuffysam - If that all happened to me, I'd be pretty angry and stressed out, that's for sure!
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
And that's why you need a vacation
to get all that stress off ya
and plot your comeback
Funari
Nozomi needs a vacation like no one's business
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Yes
Funari
Considering what we know of Nozomi's personality, and that the Captain in the NKP is the leader of the whole group...
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i think it largely depends on whats happening too. if its business as usual i think nozomi would be fine, but if crime shot up or something thatd be a diff story. albeit im sure stressed. especially if on the side shes been trying to inquire where sachiko and miko be at. and losing all the sleep. also wondering when rie's destiny will come knocking at the door
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Perhaps
Funari
We plan to do a special comic about Rie's grandmother finally showing up
Because Rie turned 18 within the 4 year timeskip
snuffysam
oh snap
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Oh snap!
Double Snap
snuffysam
hey total non-sequiter. how old was rin when she married mr. nakamura?
no wait i did the math on hayato's birth year totally wrong. ignore me.
Funari
Oh, okay xD
I was about to pull up my notes
But it's cool :P
snuffysam
np np
Funari
Oh by the way, I DID actually cover this question in a way. Theorize :P
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Oh my god
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
old enough to marry, but not old enough to recognize a potentially bad partner when she sees it
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
That looks really nice
And lol
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
ah sweet the cat thing whose name i forgot found a friend
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
I’d talk about what I would do if I found out that my partner was less then desirable but this isn’t life tea party so
snuffysam
he already had one though ):
Funari
Do not forget about Miko and Sachiko D: His first friends/family
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Oh...
snuffysam
yeah, exactly
Funari
And, as we can see in the drawing, yes, Nozomi is stressing hard during the past 4 years
snuffysam
he had a friend
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
well okay, cat thing found a new friend. to combat the lonliness but probably more likely to get in elianne's way.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
I wonder, what if the timeskip was only one year
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i really wanna know why elianne specifically referred to the cat as a renegade
Funari
Leigh: Well, he's done it once. What's not to say he'll do it again?
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
the timeskip wasnt only one year tho?
Funari
Koneko the Renegade~
snuffysam
well, this may come as a shock - but i don't believe koneko was born on earth
Funari
Or, if you've read the most recent pages, Ozadarr :P
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
Koneko is the real hero of the story
snuffysam
and we don't know how old he is at that. it's possible he's been a thorn in elianne's side since before miko was born
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
that is the impression i got
that theres tons of past history here
and koneko is a sneaky sneak
Funari
Leigh: No one really knows how old Koneko is. Except us, of course
Funari
Koneko is very much a sneaky sneak!
And even besides the Elianne thing, consider that Koneko looked exactly the same between the 2000s-era journal flashbacks and Yucchan's present time...Red flags
snuffysam
plenty of cats look the same across, like, 30 years
not weird at all
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Mmmm
Very sneaky~
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
but speaking of not koneko, im gonna be optimistic and assume sachiko and miko are alive and just being held prisoner. since elianne cant do the evil without memories or something apparently. meanwhile koneko fled to mexico or canada. O_O cause thats where all the criminals in popculture flee.
Funari
Those memories....they're pretty important
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
4 years of prison.
Sounds like hell
snuffysam
i don't think koneko's running away so much as looking for help
and hey, at least they have each other?
Funari
4 years of prison while suffering from amnesia!
Just imagine looking to the side, and there's another beautiful woman and you have NO idea who they are, and they're giving you that same look
snuffysam
at least when they get out they'll know for sure that love at first sight is a real thing?
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
elianne is at least being nice if she puts them in a cell or something together.
Funari
Leigh: I like that remark! @snuffysam
They're in exactly the same place you saw them in the Interlude
So...sort of a prison?
Not the bars and concrete kind, but they're trapped in that weird bubble in a strange dimension (though the beginning of ch 6 mentions what it is in slightly more detail as a passing comment...)
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
QUESTION 4. By Yukina’s time period, Sachiko and Koyomiko are pretty legendary. What do you think happened in the past that earned them such notoriety? Is it something to do with catching Kregor, Koyomiko’s Ascendant Rights work, or just everything put together? Speaking of the past, do you think Koyomiko repaired the relationship with her family at some point? We also see a brief flashback of how Sachiko lost her eye, so what do you think are the circumstances that brought that about? Aside from the past, do you think reading the journals about Sachiko and Koyomiko has helped Yukina in ways besides offering her a new perspective on them? Do you believe they will help Yukina find her raison?
snuffysam
"And for almost catching Kregor for good no less than sixty times, we give the medal of bravery to Sachiko and Koyomiko!"
Funari
The Kregor Katcher Award
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
(A half hour of crying baby later... )
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
poor baby :<
Funari
:<
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Regards the prior question, obviously the reason Sachiko and Miko haven't escaped yet is because they don't have their memories and don't know where to escape to. It's a fun Catch-22, because if they had their memories, they'd be put to death.
(Baby's had a bottle now. No, not the weird one, the other one. And not with the cold formula, the other stuff.)
Funari
Leigh: Right on the money
Leigh: There's a few more complexities involved, but that's the gist of it
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
That kinda seemed obvious to me.
(Am I making up for not realizing who the mothers were?)
Funari
Leigh: It wasn't supposed to be particularly hidden lol
Leigh: You're forgiven. For now
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
it was pretty obvious but ya never know when someone might have an interesting theory
like elianne gave them part time work and theyre like "sweet this pays way more than min wage"
Funari
Yeah, no that makes perfect sense. But, in this case, we weren't trying to hide anything extra there
We'll be adding more details in the next few updates actually
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Seconding Rebel
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Also regards the prior question, I feel like Yukina's been trying to train herself in France so as to (1) Not ask stupid questions like what's going on when in the middle of a tense situation, and (2) Learn from Cassandra about what to do to avoid flipping out after freezing at the end of said tense situation.
Funari
Thank you for remembering that Cassandra exists :3
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
LOVE the Cassandra angle. Gotta go to her for Ascendant issues.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i was wondering if we were gonna see cassandra again
Funari
VERY soon
snuffysam
i wonder if Yukina'll meet up with her grandfather?
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
I mean, she could be in Scotland, but she did speak French. shrugs
Funari
We're both very fond of Cassie
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Training during a break seems like a good idea. Especially for four years
Never skipping leg day either
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
As to the NEW question, perhaps they're legendary for their looooove. It was even pointed out how everyone in school knew back then.
Funari
Cassandra's well-traveled. She knows French, German, and a bit of Japanese thanks to having Miko as a very close friend
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
omg math. that would actually be hilarious if true. theyre legendary because no matter the trial their love was unconquered
Funari
WELL, in a personal sense, that may be true!
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Does Yuzu + Miko = Suzaku no Miko? (hashtag Fushigi Yugi...)
Funari
Leigh: Certainly, when everyone who was at their wedding remembers them for their bond!
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Rebel: True love did kind of conquor that darkness spell that hit Sachiko.
(I mean, it wasn't a kiss, but still... we can imagine that...)
Funari
heheh
Their love is pretty darn important!
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Actually, maybe Sachiko's already conquered her evil step-mom? Could be someone other than Elianne, maybe that was the big deal.
Losing the eye was probably a prophecy... darn those prophecies...
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Never underestimate it
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i am curious why sachiko didnt seem to block kregor in that flashback. like theres a point id think shed stop freezing up with fear, but maybe it was not at that time i guess
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Actually, kind of interesting that in 2031 they don't have a prosthetic for that. Unless Sachiko wears the eyepatch as a badge of honour.
Funari
It was an incident related to Elianne. No prophecies this time, just some crazy stuff.
Sachiko definitely has a problem with freezing up
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Rebel: Maybe Miko was behind her.
Funari
The wound isn't natural
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
hmm thats interesting it isnt natural
which makes me think man, that must of hurt even more
Funari
But yeah, deep down, Sachiko would prefer to solve things without violence. Miko's the more violent-prone one
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
As to Miko's family... I kinda doubt it? The way she referred to her mom and everything back then? The ascendancy stuff becoming mainstream might have helped, but I kinda doubt it.
Funari
Conferring with Leigh and
Eh, may as well just say it
No
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
The wound isn't natural... it's artificial. Sachiko's been a clone this whole time.
Gotcha. Probably why Miko wants to do things better with her family though.
Funari
Miko's mom's attitude never changed, so Miko never made up with her. Even Tomoko eventually moved away from her, though she still has a sort-of connection there. Sort of
Oh yeah. That's how she reacted to the abuse. It helped that she had folks like Sachiko and Rin around to show her what family can be like, and her dad WAS an okay man, but he was married to....that. She always wanted to be better than her mom
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Actually, if anyone's a clone, it's probably Kregor. Explains why he was vanquished 60 times.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
I man, how many people stride to be better than their parents? Just curious
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
haha i suspected. making up with ppl is difficult if it can be done at all in those cases.
you cant clone kregor
kregor is one of a kind
O_O
Funari
Leigh: personal experience
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Hmmm, if Miko had both Sachiko and a clone of Sachiko to spend time with at once...
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
math plz
theres already a threesome with allie in the mix
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Always room for one more.
One for the shadows, one for the daytime.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
A foursome?
Sign me up
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
anyway, idk if the journals helped yukina find a raison or purpose, but im sure her moms getting kidnapped certainly helped
Funari
(was trying to make this quick. It DOES seem like Kregor's got fans!)
snuffysam
"gee yukina, how come you get to have FOUR moms whenmmmmghg-" gets kidnapped by kitsune grandma
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Oooh, title drop. (Yeah, I was surprised that with all the French nods, Funari's not part French that I can tell...)
Funari
omg
Leigh: I think Rie would say that one mom is plenty, giving who HER mom is!
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Kregor's the villain you love to hate.
Funari
And in regards to @✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨ - we're definitely moving towards a moment of recknoning for Yucchan
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
So here's a question I wanted to ask before we run out of time -- have we seen Pan in the future?
Did I just miss it?
Funari
Not yet
She's in the little "How things have changed" drawing, and there are plans, but officially not yet
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Ooooh, hmmmm. As long as she didn't turn to the dark side.
Funari
No, we can confidently confirm that Pan is still on our side ;p
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Lol
What about the light side
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Mr & Mrs Daggers?
Funari
fjfjgjfj
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i have wondered where pan has been too. i think from the time skip im most interested in seeing what rie's dad is up too given for all i know nozomi kicked his butt out onto the street into the gutter(edited)
snuffysam
good
Funari
OOF
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Okay since we're running out of time here I just wanted to say good luck on the rest of the comic and hope it all goes well, there's some seriously good reads hidden in there.
Funari
Thanks much :3
Any other quick questions?
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Yeah, funny thing is, I can kind of see why he'd bow to the pressure of not telling his wife about Rie. The thing I don't get is him not telling about who he was before the marriage, that's the weird transgression to me.
Funari
Leigh and I have certainly had lots of fun tonight! Glad you all have enjoyed what we've done so far!
Leigh: Mmmhmm (too secretive for his own good)
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Does "Cat" have a human form too?
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
You're welcome!(edited)
Funari
TECHNICALLY yes
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Hashtag catgirls?
(Or catboys, whatever.)
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Funari
Catpeople
But yes, technically he does, but we won't see it any time soon. There are Reasons
raisons
Elianne's gonna do a huge exposition dump in the next few pages
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Cassandra's mother was secretly a catgirl.
Funari
She is...preparing for it
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Anyway, good job! It'll be interesting to see what happens as comic looks at other planes, as seems to be happening in the new pages.(edited)
(Or just people from other planes hiding out in ours.)
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
COMIC TEA PARTY END!
Unfortunately, the scheduled Comic Tea Party time is now up~! Thank you everyone so much for reading and joining this week’s chat~! We want to give a special thank you to Cloud Fourteen (Funari and Leigh), as well, for making Raison d'Etre and volunteering it for our reading queue. If you liked the comic, please be sure to support Cloud Fourteen (Funari and Leigh)’s efforts however you’re able to. All that being said, if you would like to continue discussing this week’s comic, we highly encourage you to do so~!
For next week, Comic Tea Party will focus on Pathways: Chronicles of Tuvana by Elaine Tipping. As always, please use the next several days to read as much of the comic as you would like. We hope to see you next Thursday on August 23rd from 5PM to 7PM PDT for the chat~! Until then, happy reading~! Comic: http://pathways.smackjeeves.com/
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Mileven post-S2 fanfiction recommendation list: PART VI
To compensate for the long wait, part VI is extra long. For past rec lists please see instalments I, II, III, IV, and V. If your fanfic isn’t featured, apologies. Message me and we’ll amend that grievance in the next rec list instalment.
* marks the ongoing stories.
canon:
chain reaction* by FourthHorse: “Old ghosts come back knocking, and growing up was never meant to be easy.”
what makes you different by cali-chan (girls_are_weird): ““I wish you could see yourself like I see you,” he breathed out almost subconsciously. “Because then… you’d know.””
+ its sequel: we are not alone by cali-chan (girls_are_weird): “And just like that, the library at Hawkins High had become a war room, a strategy session where all the members of the party devised a plan to protect one of their own. Because that’s what friends do.”
i wanna dance with somebody by @eleventhemage (richiewheeler (jormaperalta): “Eleven is popular. And mike feels insecure about it (she gonna chose being popular over him) but she chooses him.”
a year in the life by @jeeno2: “Four times Mike and Eleven don’t kiss and one time they do.”
eleven things* by Socalledfriend: “Eleven returns, but things don’t just go back to the way they were. It’s not clear how she managed to get home, and meanwhile Will’s sickness is only getting worse. Some things never change though, and while she’s back, Mike manages to teach her at least eleven things about the outside world.”
the rules by Strange_Archivist: “Hopper lays down the rules for Mike.”
what’s in a name? by @isaksredscarf (wordsarelifealways): “It’s been about a fortnight, and El wants to share her real name with Mike.”
day 21 by kittenCorrosion: “It’s not the first day, day one, but it’s the first day she hears him. The first day she realises how much he misses her. The first day she remembers just how much she needs him.”
return to me* by AdelaideElaine: “Eleven reappears as suddenly as she left, and although she wants to stay with Joyce Byers, it’s decided that it would be best for all involved if she lives at the Wheeler house. Karen tries to teach her to cook, Mike tries to teach her to dance, and Nancy is charged with the task of trying to teach her how to be a Normal Girl — even if having Jonathan Byers back in her life means that she has less understanding of what that means than ever.”
are you gonna be my girl by cali-chan (girls_are_weird): ““So,” he whispered in her ear, dropping a kiss on her cheek that she leaned into, “what do you say? Do you want to be my girlfriend?””
jane, pt. 1 by EvieSmallwood: “El tells Mike her real name.”
jane, pt. 2 by EvieSmallwood: “Love is a funny old thing.”
time together by JoMo3: “Mike and Eleven have a sleepover.”
+ its sequel: more than like by JoMo3: “Mike and El have the “l word” talk.”
understand by DBSean: “Mike Wheeler and Chief Hopper have a long-overdue discussion about their favourite person.”
christmas with the wheelers by luxuriousvoyage11: “On the first week in December, nerdy stuttering Mike Wheeler had done his routine visit and bashfully invited El and her adoptive father over for Christmas dinner.”
contact by sporadicallyceaseless: “Before, El didn’t know any good people, or things she liked, or touches that didn’t hurt. Things are much different now. Much better.”
safe by DBSean: ““El?” Mike asked, now fully awake, his concern and confusion quickly overriding any remnants of sleep or exhaustion he may have been experiencing. “What’s wrong? Did something happen?” Eleven nodded, and Mike saw for the first time that there were tears in her eyes. “Not safe.””
11 months by @eddiesghost (thewolfmoon): “Eleven’s gone for 353 days. Mike struggles through each and every one of them.”
like a distant star by someone.else.before: “Now that Mike knows El is alive, he’s not going to let even the scariest police chief in the world get in the way of seeing her again.”
first christmas by Browneyesparker: “Mike and El celebrate Christmas together.”
crying in the rain by DreamersMyth27: ““I miss moments like this more than anything,” Mike sighed. El looked at him curiously and tilted her head to the side slightly.”
the first summer* by Kiddo7: “It’s the gang’s first summer all together, and Mike can’t wait to show El all that it has to offer.”
sugar cookies & snow days by Browneyesparker: “Mike and El have a snow day, and bake some sugar cookies together.”
the first outing by pathvain_aelien: “Eleven goes bowling.”
+ actually pathvain_aelien has a lot of interesting stories that you should check out.
perfect summer day by AR357: “It was a sunny summer day in 1984. Mike had been looking forward to this day for a while. With each breath of crisp summer air, he felt more and more invigorated. With each hill he crested, he felt his heart thumping away. But then again, maybe he was just thinking about what the day’s events would hold.”
things you said* by Brown Eyes Parker: “a collection of one-shots revolving around Mike & Eleven and things they say to each other.”
things you said, alternate stories* by Brown Eyes Parker: “Original and alternate or continuations of stories in my “things you said” series.”
cold, helpless, fragile as glass when i shatter, i will find you* by janeelevenives83: “Mike and El Wheeler had never expected their life to be normal. One little stick at 4am on the bathroom floor changes that. But when old ‘friends’ come back to play, they leave with not only their ultimate goal, but a piece of Eleven that leaves a gnawing hole in her. And Mike won’t stand for it…”
raspberry breeze by urdearestmom: “Sometimes she stays up with him, and she calls him ridiculous. How don't you fall over when you get up in the morning? She asks. Pfft, I don’t need sleep! Who do you think I am? He says, but then he smiles and her heart melts, she’s never been able to be angry at this boy for more than a few minutes.”
alternative universe:
lost in translation* by cosmilk: “For a whole year, the Wheelers are going to live with a foreign exchange student. Little does Mike know he’s going to get pretty attached to this girl.” foreign-exchange-student!El AU.
(all i wanna be is) somebody to you* by sinclairsmax: “Elle Hopper never thought that she’d win American Idol. Then again, she also never thought Mike Wheeler would fall in love with her. Behind the cameras, everything is turned upside down.” YouTubers AU. [I AM FREAKING OUT. I AM FREAKING OUT.]
inked mesmerisms* by apathetical: “Twelve year old Mike Wheeler isn’t sure what to make of things when the numbers ‘011’ suddenly appear upon his wrist one day.” Soulmate AU.
infinite, undying* by @eleventhemage richiewheeler (jormaperalta): “When Hawkins Lab and Department of Energy officially decided to merge, it was discovered both factions had been experimenting on children in order to create super spies. 011, a tekekinetic, was from the Hawkins Lab side. “Mike,” a fire manipulator, was from the DoE side.” Mike is also an experiment AU.
mixtape* by @elevenseggoobsession (frankiethebard): “Mike & Jane hook up at a party, then discover their parents are engaged to be married. Can they put their attraction aside, or will it be too strong to ignore?” High School AU.
greyscale by @trash-the-tozier (littleboxesofstars): “Soulmates are what make the world vibrant, colors getting brighter and brighter the closer a pair of souls get to one another. In usual cases, the world starts off black and white and changes as a person travels, but for Mike, colors have always been there. Faint, but there, and that doesn’t change until the night his friend Will goes missing.” Soulmate AU.
you ain’t nobody until you got somebody* by lovelysarcastic: “What if soulmates aren’t good for us? What if that so-called soulmate, the one that supposedly is so good for you, instead of loving you right, destroys you?” Soulmate AU.
no remedy for memory by runawayrunt: “At 23, Mike Wheeler is going for broke. Having quit college on his sophomore year, he traded the diploma for the dream. At 18, Jane “Eleven” Hopper is ready to leave her entire life behind. She took a bus ride from Sacramento to Los Angeles on a hot day. The chorus of the cicadas sounded off like a farewell hymn.”
all sorts of far away* by BinarySunrise: “Eleanor Hopper is a quiet, pretty cheerleader with more than a few mysteries in her past. Mike is a nerd with a secret crush on her. She has more walls in place than the popular crowd cares to tear down, and he’s more than a little paranoid about reaching out to girls like her, but fate still finds its ways of pushing them together.”
reality in motion* by AkaiaOwl: “It hurt her to listen to the ruthless voice in her head, but, as much as she hated to admit it, El knew it was probably right. It had happened countless times before. Well, actually two. Two times in which El found herself feeling funny and giddy and hopeful about someone, only to be disappointed. It always ended that way. She was destined to be alone and it was probably for the best.” College AU.
things change* by untiltheyfindtheperfectgirl: “Two years have passed since Eleven went missing. A distraught Mike has pulled away from the party and made friends with his middle school bullies. What happens when one day in sophomore year a mysterious character from his past resurfaces?”
karma by reddieforlove: “Mike didn’t fully understand the meaning of instant karma until a small hand came out of nowhere and whacked him in the face with enough force to blind him for several moments.” College AU.
all for one* by PaladinofFarore: “1985 was going to be a wild school year.” Time Travel AU.
blind date by reddieforlove: “Mike is a waiter. Eleven is on a terrible date.”
crossover:
a happy thought by midas_touch_of_angst: “The Party tries to summon their Patronuses. El seems to be having the hardest time.” Hogwarts AU.
+ bonus: wherein The Party is featured prominently once again:
a different kind of monster by @bananannabeth: “Billy Hargrove seems to have a habit of getting Karen to answer the door in nothing but a robe. Unfortunately for him, she’s noticed that he also seems to have a habit of beating his step-sister.”
love (and other weird things) by cali-chan (girls_are_weird): “The Wheelers travel to New York to spend Thanksgiving 1987 with Nancy, and Mike is having trouble going two days without speaking to his girlfriend.”
a gift for mike by PureShores: “Lucas, Dustin and Will come up with the perfect Christmas gift idea for Mike. But giving it to him might be a little more complicated.”
raising peter rabbit by @paradiamond: “After the Gate closes, Jim and El kick off their better start.”
the wild youth (reckless) by dumbledore_93: ““He looks really bad,” Dustin croaks. “There’s a lot of blood.” Mike steps over cautiously. There is a lot of blood.”
kids these days by apollos: “Between fighting monsters and catching her little brother doing that with his girlfriend, Nancy would rather have the monsters.”
and then there was one by @timetravl (dustingspace): “In which Dustin is the last remaining party member to believe in Santa Claus; and the rest of the party has to debate over whether or not to tell him the truth.”
you’re not alone* by Playfulelectrode: “This is right after El closes the Gate. We start with Mike, and what it’s like while he waits for Hopper to come back with El. There will be an exploration into the world as El tries to not only figure out where she belongs, but also who she is.”
after the gate closed* by insomniacwriter17: “Jonathan doesn’t know how to deal with all the people staying in his house after the events of the night. Luckily, he’s not the only one.”
finally (i don’t care about tradition) @eleventhemage richiewheeler (jormaperalta): “I don’t care about tradition, you try and get me to kiss you under the mistletoe and I will punch you.”
you are in love* by @upsidedownpromises (rainingcatsandkisses): “Little moments that make Eleven realise that she’s in love.”
sometimes a family is* by merrymegtargaryen: “Just some domestic fluff with only the vaguest inclination of a plot.”
someone to turn to by Val-Creative: “El finds meaning in her new identity and home and a relatively peaceful existence. When things don’t go the way they should, she’s grateful for Mike sticking with her. Max attempts to befriend her one last time, for the sake of their friends and themselves.”
a girl is the strongest thing you can be by @timetravl (dustingspace): “She thinks about the Demogorgon and the MindFlayer and part of her wonders if she’s the same girl now that she was when she defeated them. People don’t treat her like she is.”
the importance of thinking happy thoughts by selkieskin: “Eleven didn’t want to be angry any more. So when she was alone in the cabin during the day and she tried to use her powers using an emotion other than anger, she just kept on thinking of how much attention Mike was paying to Will, not her, and anger kept welling up anyway.”
i’m gross? by untiltheyfindtheperfectgirl: “An unexpectedly eventful snow day...”
so i could kill them for you by valancysnaith: “Max deserves so much better. The party is there for her.” [this one is…odd, to say the least.]
time’s just holding me down (i’ll tear up this town) by jormaperalta: “The Snow Ball is this weekend, and the Demogorgon is back. Thankfully, so is Eleven.”
an even stranger connection by untiltheyfindtheperfectgirl: “Mike looked down at Eleven, his eyes wide. Was he really hearing Eleven in his head?”
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P.S. I’m trying out a thing where I tag the author’s tumblrs if I find them. With that in mind, if anyone knows the authors I featured in previous instalments, would you please tag them. Thanks. 🌸
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