#and it's SO sad not many people explore their dynamic [or at least weren't often in 2013-2016 when I was in the fandom]

[fountainpenguin]

life of a loser is so good

Thank you 💚

I have a lot of fond memories of my TDI 'fics and how they helped me grow my love for expanding on canon, writing large casts of characters, and playing with the friendships and conflicts that arise due to forced proximity because you're literally stuck in a 5-star hotel with these people and can't do anything about it... I certainly wouldn't have the 'fics I'm writing today if I'd never written Life of a Loser!

Honestly, it's SO tempting to polish my drafts for the other elimination 'fics I wrote... My Staci one didn't survive the draft because of a specific plot twist I wanted that turned out to be too ambitious, but I love Leonard and how his 'fics were coming. There are some gut-wrenching things I wrote for the Leonard-Tammy dynamic in my Ridonculous Race draft (and a lot of manipulative Topher in both that and "Beatin' Path") and if opportunity arises to spare the time & motivation, I'd love to post more of that :)

I did have some early Mario drabbles I used to post, but I consider Life of a Loser my first "official" fanfic. Take me back to the days of writing Noah and Eva just constantly dunking on anti-hero Ezekiel and bonding over it. NoVa being besties who are canonically down to split a million dollars with each other, my beloved...

[egg-emperor]

I haven't been in the Sonic fandom since I was a literal child lmao (mid-2000s ish during the heyday before Sonic 06) but it's crazy to me that people complain about dark or edgy interpretations of Sonic media since the games, comics, even a couple of the TV series were just like that for a while. idk. the forced wholesomeness stuff is just as bad imo

Yeah I guess a lot of it is because a big amount of the people that have a problem with my dark concepts haven't been fans for as long to really know about it or they don't remember, or do but don't like it and just have a problem with anyone actually liking and creating for it.

It's ridiculous to me that it's so vilified in the fandom now because the series has officially explored tons of dark subjects and themes of violence, tragedy, death, killing of innocent people and children, abuse of animals and people in multiple forms, terrorism, suicide, enslavement, shootings, war, genocide, etc. And those are all just examples that have been the actual canon games.

And that's not even getting into other official media like the comics, especially Archie- which also has some really great dark moments with Eggman that creatively inspired me a lot. I'll include mention it here because this isn't just about what's canon though there's tons there too, it also helps emphasize that this is what's been in any form of official media at all the entire time.

People say these themes are too extreme and dark and must make the person writing about them for analysis and concepts horrible people, even though they're explored in the official media. And surprise, surprise, Eggman is very often the perpetrator in a lot of these terrible things because he's the main villain of the series for a reason! It shouldn't be wrong to embrace that.

It surprises me now that people that dislike evil and dark things as a whole in fiction are fans of Eggman today and have a problem with other fans liking that he's evil and basing their fan creations off that. It doesn't make sense to me at all but it wouldn't be a problem if some of them weren't so nasty and accusatory towards those that do and cast them out of the fandom.

It's really not that shocking to explore darker subjects and themes, they're not too extreme for Sonic in any way. And most of what I create are always at least heavily inspired by or even directly taken from terrible evil things that Eggman has done in the games, I'm just exploring them further to a degree that they can't because of age ratings- that's the only real huge difference.

Nobody should be getting cast out and told to die for exploring darker themes anyway if course but it's even wilder to me that it's happening over me writing about what's already been explored in the series and is literally why I do so in the first place. And they made it to be entertaining, that's the point. So it should be possible to acknowledge, enjoy, and create based on it without trouble.

I miss how that was more possible in the early 2000s - early 2010s but is now treated like an offense and even punishable by death in some people's eyes. The sanitization of these darker themes and characters in fandom to favor wholesome fluff often simplifies the complexity of them and their dynamics officially, which removes a ton of what's interesting and appealing to me.

And the hostility towards anyone that doesn't follow along with it and how they'll act like they're morally reprehensible and cast them out alongside people that have actually done illegal things on blocklists and such is really sad. People are allowed to like good pure wholesome things as much as people are allowed to like darker evil edgy grim dark things but some won't allow them to coexist.

Thinking about how many other fans' creations of analysis, concepts, fic writing, and art are affected too as they're either kicked out like me or feel like they can't share it at all in fear the same will happen to them is a huge shame. It's restricting expression of creativity and imagination in favor of purifying everything despite even the official media having some these themes.

And that's one of the reasons why the fandom is so different when it comes to what fictional writing, art, and interpretations are or aren't allowed now. Not only do people forget or reject these themes being in the official media itself, they also seek to shut down anyone who wants to explore those further in fiction like me and discourage others from doing so in the first place.

I think myself and anyone who shares my interests would be able to find stuff we enjoy much easier if this didn't happen. It sucks how hard some fans make it for people to share or discover any type of fan creations that don't fit their personal moral beliefs and tastes, despite there being tons of the fluff they want in the fandom already. Fans of the darker themes should be able to thrive here too.

[hexentanzenigma]

Oh no, don't worry!

You're not rude at all, and I apologize because I misread part of your post on a side and not being a native English speaker, I think I wasn't able to convey in a proper way that my reply was most about others failing in seeing his three-dimensionality, not about what you said :)

I didn't mean to dismiss your frustration in any way or your knowledge about D&D lore. I'm not really this kind of person and I wouldn't dare to be so rude :)

Unfortunately I'm used to find people who are shallow and fail to see Cazador's three-dimensionality as a villain -big he is indeed three-dimensional considering how little screentime he has!- and I thought that beyond Cazador's Asian features, you were abnnoyed also by this. I did a 1+1 that wasn't really there, I'm sorry for that :/

My first thought when I read it was about how not only we are constantly judged and ostracized for liking him even if he's one of the many other well-written villains, but also Asian appreciators explaining how they related to the characters and questline have the same fate, unless they're explicitly hating on him. Like they weren't entitled to share their personal experiences about their cultures, especially with other Asian fellows and fans in a more open and constructive way.

However, not being Asian myself, I usually don't consider my place to talk too much about this, especially when risking to give the idea of speaking somehow on behalf of Asian people and telling how they should feel about him. I think this is also the reason why I instinctively avoided tha matter. Moreover being all the day, everyday, among people who like him as a character, Asian (from East Asia and South-East Asia too) and not Asian alike, his Asian features are for us just another side which we want to find headcanons to. Luckily I haven't stumbled into people insulting him for his Asian features for months (it did happen in the beginning tho, by a few feral Astarion fans/twt harassers, using IRL slurs used towards Asian people) and I hope it didn't happen again since. I wouldn't be surprised tho. Some corners of the fandom are terrible towards real people.).

Anyway, from my corner, I've never seen often people hating on him as a consequence of him not being white. Hope so, at least. I surely might be wrong or not seeing other parts of the fandoms, so my point of view is limited. Most of the hate we receive as fans is because of he's Astarion's abuser and because he's considered a rapist of his own spawns. Due to this, many tell us that this is the point where they drag the line: you can be a crazy murderer, a necrophiliac, a slaver, the cruelest creature out there or anything else, but not a rapist (and as I said, for Raphael there are explicit hints, for Cazador there aren't).

And here, usually, there is a list of horrible, harmful stereotypes towards SA survivors especially if they explore Cazador and Astarion past dynamics: I've seen people telling survivors that they're lying because if it was true they wouldn't dare to write about Astarion's trauma; that they wished it happened to them again because once it wasn't enough if they cope in that way/if they "shipped" a rapist with his victim; that SAd people would have preferred to die instead of being raped and if they weren't drawning into depression or having thoughts about ending their life they weren't really traumatized; etc.

However, this doesn't take anything away from the frustration of seeing the only standing-out Asian character being a villain and one of the worst kind: I knew people loving to see a villain they considered beautiful to be Asian, others have seen in him the "Yellow Peril" stereotypes especially when paired with Wyll considered a neglected character, others that doesn't care. That's why I'm not in the position to speak about it too much, not sharing the same ethnicity. Larian could have added more, if they wanted, that's for sure, as many other similar things. The game is beautiful but far from perfection.

I know there is Zarys, the Zentharim leader, being Asian too, but she's not "a good one" as well. I mean..we know that canon Zentharim are evil-aligned. She's very cool, tho. Beyond them, yes, I can't recall Asian of any character that isn't very minor/random :/ This said, unfortunately there is no real hint or info about why they did such a choice. If it was based on something that was then cut, like Amanita/Lady Incognita's story and the presence of the others 3 Szarrs (Fistula, Dralia and Blovark), all bloodkin. Maybe they had all Asian features and Amanita was the positive young girl, rebelling against his own family trying to force her to become what they wanted her to be. Sort of. But then everything was cut and Cazador was left as a final boss fight of a disconnected quest, with giant plotholes and missing characters. We were curious too, but Larian doesn't talk about him, doesn't share any meme about him like for others villains, there have been no Q&A in general and it's unlikely there will be any. It's something I'd have liked to ask them since the beginning.

I feel that rushing against Starfield release left Act3 in general very badly chopped, with terrible and weird side-quests, even more plotholes (like, Gortash's palace should have been the Grand Duke's one in the Upper City; Raphael never talks about him and vice versa, nothing is really connected between them two, there's just Nubaldin at the House of Hope and so on).

Sorry again for the misunderstanding :)

i love bg3, and i love being in the fandom but also. i have never felt more alone as someone who also happens to be chinese like.

i don’t like cazador. i don’t think the majority of bg3 fans do. but the fact that i’ve never seen the same amount of grace given to cazador that is given to gortash or even raphael, by fans or in the game, just fucking hurts.

consider gortash and cazador: both gortash and cazador have been hurt, and choose to perpetuate this cycle of hurt. gortash is widely crushed on and shipped with durge. in game, karlach (gortash’s victim, no less) expresses sympathy when she realises what was done to gortash. nothing remotely resembling this sympathy is given to cazador, regardless of in game or in fandom.

i’ve always gotten upset seeing people hate on cazador without allowing space for nuance, and haven’t been able to explain why until now—

characters like raphael and gortash can be loved, regardless of / including all the atrocities they commit. they’re pined after, and shipped, and loved. anytime someone likes cazador, on the other hand, fingers are pointed and everyone goes ‘but he’s an abuser!!’

and that’s just it: cazador is just ‘the abuser’. hatred towards the only memorable asian character never goes challenged or questioned, because he was quite literally written to be the most evil, most abusive character of all.

yes, he’s a terrible person, yes, he’s an abuser, yes, asian people can be abusive just like every other person on earth. it’s understandable why one would hate him, because he’s literally written to be, but the fact that he’s the only asian character i can name in bg3 just really fucking hurts.

fans who love raphael (me included) or gortash (me not included) are much more likely to be ‘excused’ or accepted, whereas any fans who even express an ounce of love for cazador immediately get shut down. why do you think this is. think about the implications of the only memorable asian in the game being the most abusive and most evil. (no, asian side characters and npcs with two lines of dialogue don’t count. no, the one asian face option for tav also doesn’t count)

again, i love bg3, and its changed my fucking life, but its just deeply upsetting to me that this character was written specifically to be hateable with no room for grace or remorse or empathy. nobody questions the blind, pure hatred for him. nobody questions why this hatred isn’t expressed quite as strongly for literally any other evil white character in the game.

i’m not asking for people who sympathize with / relate to astarion’s storyline to like cazador at all— that’s not the point of all this. i’m not telling you which characters to like or dislike. but racist beliefs / predispositions / inclinations do not magically become less racist when the character of color in question is written to be abusive, not to mention the fact that he’s the only asian character in bg3 that i can even name or remember.

growing up, i’ve always wanted to see myself in the fantasy stories that i loved. i’ve given up hoping that i will, but i’m really sad and disappointed that the one character who remotely looks like me in this game that i love with my whole heart is just evil. not nuanced, not tragic, not even a fucking person to most fans or even the creators, regardless of his canon backstory and his morally wrong similarities to other characters that are loved like gortash and raphael.

i love this game and this community so much, but i just feel so . i don’t know, stupid? LMAO maybe i’m just reading too much into it, but i just feel terribly alone in feeling this way

[wickedpact]

A ranking of all the TTT stories in order of how much I liked them.

(Oh god this is so long)

1 My Mother's Axe

BABY ANDYYYYYYYYYYYY. Honestly this one had the trifecta of developing a character's motivations, developing a character's backstory, & developing their personality. The story starting out with Andy teaching Nile to use the axe was so charming and fun, and you could feel that chemistry they had in Opening Fire, the way they teased and bickered with each other so naturally. I loved the wedge between them on the subject of the axe, how Nile was perhaps a little too young to understand Andy's feelings about whether or not its the 'same' axe. I also love how the axe is obviously the symbol of the franchise and hugely important, but you never get a sense of exactly how important it is to Andy until you read the story.

I love the entire Ship of Theseus theme, and how it feels so natural that for Andy she has to get attached to the idea of things rather than the things themselves because she'll always outlive the things themselves-- the axe is symbolically her mom's axe, even if physically it isn't. And I love how she clearly clings to that concept so tightly. "This is the labrys she held in her hands...." IT GETS ME.

And the fact that this sense of BELONGING, of FAMILY, of CULTURE is so important to Andy that she clings to it (figuratively and literally) with both hands. And of course it's important to her, she spent so long alone that the woman doesn't even remember her birth name. That axe (or the idea of that axe) is all she has left of her mother and that family/culture she was born into.

PLUS on that note I love how Andy doesn't remember if her mom was her actual biological mother, but it doesn't matter to her. This woman was her mother in all the ways that counted. And how her mom BETRAYED AND KILLED Andy but Andy loved her so much that she avenged her and carried her axe for thousands of years. THOUSANDS OF YEARS!!!!!!

I also loved how the story transcends the timeline of the whole franchise and seeing Andy through the years. Loved seeing her with the varying squads and with varying axes. Also baby Andy was so cute. It was cool seeing her so young. like holy fuck. Andromache The Scythian, Immortal Warrior (but smol). Love that.

Also I think this one is one of the few ttt stories that doesn't suffer from length problems.

tldr: goddammit greg you've done it again.

2 Zanzibar and Other Harbors

Zanzibar my beloved. I've said before, but it's downright comedic how little regard there was for Joe and Nicky's character designs in this story. The same person who does the colors for the regular comic did the colors for this one too, and you can tell, every panel of this story was Beautiful.

Ik there was A Lot of criticism of this one (lmao @ how the fandom had no idea what was to come) but I thought a lot of The Discourse was a bit dramatic. I did think Nicky came off as a little oblivious to Joe's feelings in this story, but I've said before, I honestly think that was a 'tone not translating' thing. It felt like Nicky was nagging Joe for [checks notes] saving innocent people, but Joe was so amused by Nicky's complaints I really do think it was supposed to come off as teasing.

Plus I know the 'Joe running off into danger and Nicky reluctantly following' dynamic wasn't popular (I'm a pretty meh on it meself) but I did love how Joe's impulsiveness (if you want to call it that) was interpreted as heroism and not hot-hotheadedness. All of the examples Nicky and Joe talked about included Joe explicitly saving people. (and it also took A Lot for the nazi to actually provoke Joe).

I also feel like their characterization here was closest to the movie canon-- the bit where they hear the woman scream and Joe goes running in to save her while Nicky swoops in on Joe's heels to comfort her while Joe and the nazi were fighting reminds me of the train car scene. Joe had suggested First that they go find Nile because she needed to be protected, and Nicky later added that Nile probably also needed emotional support. Similar reactions.

But it was So Good, the themes of queer community and the enduring nature of queer culture are Not themes you see in media that often and it was such a delight how it was done. Also it's one of the few more modern TTT stories that has a completely valid excuse for taking place when it did. Chef's kiss.

3 Passchendaele

I love the Duality between seeing baby Andy and then seeing Mama Andy in the very next issue. This story doesn't have a ton of meat to it, but the entire concept of Andy adopting a war orphan straight off the battlefield PLUCKS MY TENDER LITTLE HEARTSTRINGS, and I think it's especially poignant for comic!Andy. I think most people wouldn't think twice about movie!Andy doing something like that but comic Andy is so hardened and almost cruel sometimes, and seeing that even for her the world hasn't beaten all of the compassion from her yet is SO!!!!!!! this woman contains MULTITUDES okay, she's violent and angry and tired and Done but she's also so kind and compassionate and THE STRENGTH OF HER!!!!! Also the idea of her and Yitzhak co-raising a kid together is so damn cute. It was #mysterious pre-Yitzhak-story but now it's cute. holy fuck. It's cute.

& the headbonk panel of her and Zeus lives in my heart. anyways.

4 Many Happy Returns

I Know people weren't thrilled about Booker being in this one, but I've developed a pet-peeve about that: this story was *not* booker-centric. Booker only exists in this story to the extent required to explain the importance of the gesture Nile makes towards him. If there was a story about Booker making some grand gesture of kindness to Nile no one would be saying it was Nile-centric. bc it wouldn't be! Booker exists in this story to explore Nile's kindness, its not about him. I saw that a couple times and it bothered me. anyways.

AAAAAAAAAA I loved this one, the art was beautiful, I loved how Andy Nile and Booker were drawn (like their comic selves but.. more looking like actual people). I loved Andy and Nile's Bants, how Andy wanted to jump right in and Do Violence but Nile was basically telling her to hold her horses.

I feel like I'm just repeating the post I made on this story a few days ago, but I LOVED how Nile's plan revolves not around violence or Cool Mercenary Skills but on Nile's own life skills (as she canonly did a lot of minimum wage job-hopping before the marines in comics canon). Her plan used her skills, not the skills of an immortal warrior, and HER SKILLS were in fact more useful for the situation! lov to see Nile's resourcefulness and planning skills.

AND HOW NILE WAS PROBABLY WATCHING BOOKER??? it's so Much bc 1.) nile knew booker A SINGLE DAY and yet he made such an impression on her emotionally that she had to keep an eye on him and 2.) she said in the movie she wanted Booker to get off free with an apology. Yes she's a member of the team but that doesn't mean she's necessarily going to follow orders like a good little soldier. I also love how she convinced Andy to go along with it. her HEART, her KINDNESS, her THOUGHTFULNESS, UGH.

5 The Bear

Honestly I have like no negative things to say about this one other than a.) character design issues which is less about the story itself and is more of a 'tog comic in general' criticism and b.) too short, but it was supposed to be a tease, so.

But I loved Yitzhak, I wasn't expecting to really like him at all but like I said in my other post, he tickled me. I love characters who are Kind™, especially if they have little reason to be so given their backgrounds. Chef's kiss. Lov him.

6 Bonsai Shokunin

I know this one was a little controversial bc of the outsider POV but whenever I see people upset about that they never point out that the Outsider Guy (the samurai) existed as a reflection on Noriko. His ideas are explained in the text to develop hers. The whole story follows how she gave mercy to a scared young man and in response he murdered Noriko, repeatedly! Who gave him the right to inflict such pain and suffering on the world? In his opinion, the lack of response from the gods was his permission. And for Noriko-- over and over again she dies and suffers because she gave mercy, which lines up with her ideas in FM about how it's their fate to rule mortals and if they don't align with that plan/fate/whatever then they suffer. It shows some background to those ideas and how they developed in her mind outside of Ocean Madness™. Additionally, his idea of 'the Gods have done nothing to strike me down so it's fine if I do these things' kind of explains how Noriko may justify her own morally corrupt actions-- she's died so many times and it's never stuck. Maybe if she did die any of those times, or while she was in the water, maybe that would've been a sign she was doing something right, or at least doing something normal. But she hasn't died. Fate isn't done with Noriko yet. And maybe there's a reason for that. In her mind, it's just not a very pleasant reason, is all.

There were things I was kind of meh about tho. I did kind of wish we saw something of Noriko and the team, or smth explaining the way she was before her dip in the pool-- personality, likes dislikes, etc. but it wasn't bad or anything. It was super vague tho, I had to read it a few times before I got what it was going for. Liked the art. Liked the bonsai metaphor. And of course I Respect the decision to use the 1300s (1200s? I don't remember off the top of my head) rather than using the last 200 years.

7 Strong Medicine

Honestly looking back, this one made me kind of sad because both this one and Bonsai Shokunin explored character's ideas on Fate and The Divine and how that intersects with immortality and I totally thought that theme would be continued, especially with Love Letters. But Then It Wasn't™.

Admittedly.... I had to re-read this one to remember most of it. I liked Booker's ideas on God, 'The conductor of the symphony just may not be very good at his trade' but the plot itself was kind of forgettable. Some fuckin cowboys try to kill a doctor (their second) because he couldn't save their sickly brother. Book tries to stop them, gets killed, and then comes back and kills them all before they get the doctor. Alright. I liked the artstyle because the characters were ugly in a similar way that leandro's are, but way more bearable.

I love the Irony of Booker concluding that there is no such thing as fate or destiny and nothing has meaning, AS HE UNKNOWINGLY SAVES MERRICK'S GRANDFATHER FROM BEING KILLED. Booker getting fucked over by life/god/destiny yet again. It also kind of explains about where the fuck hell Merrick's interest in immortal mercenaries even came from.

I originally had this one a lot higher and then I thought about it and moved it down like two spots.

8 Never Gets Old

I liked seeing Booker interact with his kid. And we got a name for the kid! Philippe was a little bitch though, he was a little obnoxious. I liked how Booker was so thrilled to experience a restaurant with his kid (and since we know he was there before, it can be assumed he went with all of his kids and yet he was so charmed each time). It fits with his line to Nicky in the moon landing story about how you don't appreciate beautiful things 'unless you have someone to share them with'. It was charming to see Booker interact with his kid, and to see him so happy. Also lmao @ Booker's big fat Ye Olde Crush on Andy.

However at the same time it was like.. of all the things to write about,,, I guess? Booker's Night Out...... alright. Especially since Book had so many stories.

I don't know, it was alright. The old man killing him really came out of nowhere, (but the 'Salut, asshole!' panel was funny tho).

9 How To Make a Ghost Town

I've hit a point where talking about these stories has gotten less fun. I liked this one but I felt like Achilles getting lynched was not really necessary for a story that was already tragic (a story that already involved Achilles doing a lot of suffering at the hand of bigots). When we first got the blurb for this story I thought it would be about Andy returning to the squad and making friends with Booker after losing Achilles and them butting heads on the idea of family and when to cut off ties. So a little bit of my underwhelmedness about this one might be just my expectations being different.

Honestly I was pretty interested in Andy and Achilles' relationship and I would've liked to see more of them-- like, what was their dynamic like? What did they love about each other?

But anyways Andy leaving and Achilles getting killed anyways feels so pointlessly tragic (which I suppose is the point..... I don't like tragedies) she left to save him and yet people killed him anyway. Meh.

I did love the bits about Andy wanting to have a domestic life (Andy and her multitudes again) and the little detail about how she buried her axe near the road but he buried his guns under his bed-- he was an escaped slave, he never had the luxury of assuredness like Andy did. It was a sad story.

10 Lacus Solitudinis

'You put this one above love letters crim??? how could you???' easy, lmao.

There was stuff in this one I liked. But to talk about stuff I didn't like: (I'll keep it brief, I know ragging on this story has been done time and time again)

UH, setting aside the 6 year cold shoulder between Joe and Nicky, I thought their chosen method of conflict resolution was... bad at best. Nicky's inability to talk about his feelings was also annoying, especially since the entire point of this story is a fight Joe and Nicky had, and yet we don't get both sides to the story, which is...... important? That fact is especially annoying bc in the absence of Nicky explaining his side of the story, it's absolutely a possible (and admittedly probably unintentional) interpretation of the text that we do get that Joe routinely resolves conflict between him and Nicky by simply cutting Nicky out of his life entirely until Nicky just. caves? Even if it takes years?

WHICH i could get into that interpretation and how fucked up i find it. but im not going to. out of restraint.

I don't know, I think there are a lot of interesting ways to go about this conflict but 'Nicky wants to kill a guy and Joe refuses to acknowledge his existence until he stops because he thinks Nicky is too much of a Good Boy to get his hands dirty like that' ('I wont watch as the world turns his (...) compassion into something ugly'. ) wasn't.. how I would've done it. (I mean you know Joe doesn't give a shit about what Nicky is doing in a moral way, because Joe doesn't even care or mention that Booker is killing those cops too. Joe only cares because he doesn't like the idea of Nicky changing in a way he finds undesirable.)

admittedly I've said before, I do like the emphasis Joe's reaction puts on Nicky's kindness. Joe has a complete inability to cope with Nicky simply Not Being Kind. It speaks to the steadiness of Nicky's compassion all those years. but still that fact doesn't make it the conflict feel worth it

hm. I said I would be brief and I wasn't.

oh well. basically I thought there was interesting conflict potential there but it wasn't done the way I would've liked, and the way it was done leaves a lot of disturbing (and again probably unintended) interpretations to lie.

What I did like? Andy and Joe having that pessimist/optimist dynamic. Joe nerding out about science. Andy not being impressed by The Achievements Of Man. I loved Booker needling at Nicky about his outdated slang and also trying to give him Older Brother advice practically in the same breath. I loved Booker giving The Worst relationship advice ever and Nicky being like 'I Will Not Do That, Ever, Thanks.' the family vibes were so good. The Joenicky vibes left a lot to be desired tho.

11 Love Letters

I talked about my problems with Nicky in this story (and Lacus Solitudinis). I don't know, the story isn't bad but I do hold a little bit of a grudge towards it because its very existence begs the existence of a solo Joe story and we didn't get one. If we never got this story, then we could happily count Lacus Solitudinis and Zanzibar as The Joenicky Stories™ and move on with our lives. sigh.

I remember when we first got the blurb for this story I was really curious about why Nicky specifically + the setting, and the answer kind of feels like 'the author had an idea for a story like this and saw ttt as a good enough place to utilize that idea'. Plus I was really underwhelmed by the Romantic Sentiment in the letter. If you look at it line-by-line, the majority of the letter is actually Nicky talking about how lonely and disturbed he is, rather than actual,, yknow,,, Romantic Sentiment. I mean, compare the van speech and this letter and this letter is just kind of meh in comparison. I liked nicky calling joe wise! and I liked the brief sun/moon metaphor! and otherwise it was eh. It didn't even have cute squad banter, which is why Lacus Solitudinis is above this one.

12 An Old Soul

Nun orgy. Nun orgy?????? Nun orgy.......

The whole story felt like a setup to have a nun orgy. Why did Booker have abs? Why did they do that to Andy's nose? ?????? the art was good at least.

nun orgy.