#and it kinda pisses me off because i can't find any evidence that it's based on anything real so like...

[thewritingpossum]

...yeah, and then you made her last days on earth absolute misery by destroying all of her life plans and forcing her to marry your old ass AND THEN you murdered the man she loved and now you're still acting like the victim???? if you don't choke on those roses Panin, istg...

[blackquillchillin]

I love this! I imagine they end up crashing together a lot, regardless of if Apollo and Athena have their own housing or not. It leads to some fun shenanigans.

Some of my thoughts:

Apollo has the best grasp of the chemistry involved in cooking, but isn't always great at improvising if they ran out of something. Nick barely grasps the chemistry, if at all, but feeding a small child on the money you earn playing poker and playing piano at a dingy bar means you learn what works, even if you don't know why it does. are they great meals? nope. but they are meals! and you won't starve!

Blackquill briefly crashing with the crew post-release, but pre-finding his own place. He finds it very overwhelming. If they are all sharing one apartment, he shares a room with Apollo, whos kind of scared of him. If not, he just ends up in the building a lot. Athena brings him. He's glad to make the acquaintance of everyone, but so, so glad when he finds a more permanent spot. Teaches Trucy tricks you can do with a real sword. learns way more about magic then he ever wanted to know.

They really struggle to play games such as werewolf or resistance, because they involve outright lying. they've tried it a few times where you have to tell a lie with your statement, regardless of if it was true or not. results were mixed.

Phoenix honestly isn't good at trivia, but he'll be damned if he'll admit it. double-down, insist the card is wrong. present flimsy evidence on why. if you tell enough lies, you can buy enough time to....wait, this isn't court. what are you achieving? At this point Apollo is pretty sure he's doing it just to mess with the group. possibly him specifically.

Edgeworth occasionally visits the office, when he's in town, which isn't that often. He and Phoenix sound kinda cryptic when reminiscing, but its not because either of them are trying to be. It's just how they are.

Maya visits all the time! she's Trucy's self-appointed aunt/big sister. when she goes to visit Khura'in, Phoenix cries in his office later that night. Gumshoe is there more often then you'd expect too. Trucy tells him he needs a warrant to enter. they go back and forth for longer then you'd think. (don't worry, its a jest. usually.)

Athena will be browsing the web for hours when things are slow, and immediately follows it with the most insane questions to everyone in the office, and then going for a run. "would you still love me if I was a worm?" "If we were on a deserted island, who would you eat first?" "would that be fucked up or what?" bonus points if Apollo was trying to focus.

Spirited debates on what the best steel samurai thing is. Phoenix doesn't have an opinion, unless Edgeworth is there in which case whichever option would piss him off, Trucy's answer is based on the cinematography, involved, Athena likes whichever one she and Simon used to watch, and Apollo hasn't seen it. Any of it. this man doesn't know any pop-culture.

At some point, Athena and Trucy make sims of everyone they know. Then they start drowning them in the pool, because they're bored.

every time a truly hopeless case lands in the agency's lap, they take bets on how long Phoenix waffles before taking the case. He's hopeless.

Athena mixes in a bit of every language she knows into her day-to-day life, and sometimes dosn't realize she's switched. It annoyed Apollo, so he started intentionally including Khura'inese in his day-to-day speech. Athena became more aggressive about including more and more languages in her speech. It's started to get out of control.

Debating Subs vs Dubs for any show, ever, even if its originally made in America, and thus they all understand it. no show is safe.

Trucy has doves for her show. She makes everyone get to know them, "so the doves won't be scared of you" turns out to be a ploy so they can't use not knowing what to do with the doves to get out of being her assistant. no one sees it coming.

Maybe I have more then just a few thoughts. whoops.

my favourite thing about WAA is just them being friends without the trauma and courtroom drama. Which is a really big thing to ask of Ace Attorney so I have to make everything up lmao. SO

WAA going on a cozy cabin trip together. They unpack together, Trucy makes a fun vlog, Athena can't make her bed because of a stubborn bedsheet, everyone goes fishing (Phoenix falls into the water), they have a fun barbecue, Apollo tells everyone about the stars (many hugs involved), Phoenix makes the best pancakes for whatever reason. I can list so many things they'd do

WAA having fun game nights together. Many chaos involved, and poker being absolutely hated by Apollo and Athena. Athena is really good at Mario kart 8 deluxe for some reason. Trucy ALWAYS wins trivia nights

Literally just a normal day at the agency. They have minimal work and interact with eachother because they're stuck with work :]!!

WAA going to Eldoon's noodles!!!

WAA cooking/baking together. If not, Apollo usually cooks for everyone else because he's the most competent at it

Sleepovers at the office!!! Phoenix is usually not there though. I like to think Apollo, Athena and Trucy watch bad movies together and make tierlists on how bad they are

Phoenix, Athena and Apollo watching Trucy's shows and cheering her on!! Bonus points if Athena or Apollo has to go on stage and be an assistant. More bonus points if it's Phoenix

There's probably more I have thought of but this is all I can recall right now! I'd love to hear what everyone else has thought of ^.^!

[sokkas1mp]

I gonna break in this acocunt with me being angry about something that doesn't really matter (very fitting for tumblr if you ask me), this article.

First: "And I’m sorry to open with this, but part of that is due to the age difference between them. Two years is hardly worlds apart (I’m personally working with four), but a 12-year-old boy and a 14-year-old girl are. Especially the way these two are drawn. Not to be too voyeuristic about Y7 cartoons, but Katara has clearly gone through puberty, while Aang hasn’t. There is something just…off, about a sixth grade boy having a full on make-out sesh with a high school girl."

This argument is one of the most stupid ones if you ask me, because it blatantly ignores the culture we have been presented by the show. I can understand why people find this weird, but we have to try not to look at it as if its our society, because its not. In A:tla, specifically the water tribes, 16 is marrying age. Right there, our "age norms" (idk what else to call it) are very different. And there are no divisions between ages in their world like we have with middle and high school. To me, two people are fit to be together based on their maturity, not their age. That's why 45 & 40 is not the same as 15 & 10, or 20 & 15. This is the same for Kataang. They have very similar life experiences and matured together, literally side by side, so a two year ago gap is irrelevant.

Second: "...Katara took on a very maternal role with Aang. Sure, she’s a caretaker and sort of a “mom friend,” but it’s a bit more than that. She served as his literal guardian during the show’s run—there’s just no other way to look at it. By the third episode, she called herself his “family,” and later even went on to role play as his mother to get him out of trouble at school. Aang, meanwhile, was… Well, I wouldn’t say “immature” for his age, […] However, Katara is 14 going on 25, while Aang is just, Aang."

There's a compilation of Katara doing thing with Aang that if someone saw a mother doing with her son they would call it incest:

Katara definitely acts motherly towards Aang, but that is just her nature. She is more than just motherly with him. And some people like to call the check kisses familial (which is kinda weird imo), but we know Katara herself doesnt think that:

"Easy there, big brother" She pushes Sokka away. Not to mention, this was about a scene or two before she kisses Aang on the check.

Calling someone close to you your family does not mean you see them in the same way you see your parents/siblings. And Sokka played Aang's father in that scene, but we aren't sitting here using that as evidence to call him Aang's paternal figure.

Something Aang haters forget (or chose to ignore) is that being lighthearted and goofy does not equal immature. Yes, Aang does some juvenile things, but that shouldn't take away from his growth and maturity.

Third: "In fact, in the last season, Katara was shown to be uncomfortable each time Aang kisses her, and even went as far as to tell him to back off with the romantic stuff in the episode before the finale, because she was confused about how she felt. [*new paragraph*] Yet, in the end, she just trots up and blushes at Aang, than happily makes out with him when he goes for it,"

Katara initiated 2/4 of the kataang kisses (not including the check kisses). The kiss in The Cave of Two Lovers and the kiss in the finale. Yes, she's the one that "goes for it" in the finale (she also initiates the hug). She only pulls away once out of the 3 times we see a kiss end (this would be excluding the kiss in The Cave of Two Lovers). She wasn't confused about her feelings, she didn't want to have to worry about a relationship when they were nearing the end of the war.

Fourth: "The post-canon comics only furthered the lack of exploration of her feelings in this relationship"

Fifth: "[referencing a scene in The Promise in which Katara is jealous of a fanclub being around Aang] "I'm sorry, this amazing, adult communication is blowing me away"

The are both still teenagers, who have zero previous relationship experience. Also, Aang had no ill intentions and Katara recognized it.

Sixth: [refencing Katara's role in The Legend of Korra] "Did Katara want to do anything other than sit in a healing hut and be known for having Aang's kids?"

This is another argument that just pisses me off. You can not use Katara's lifestyle in her 80s (she is 85 in s1) as judgement for her adulthood. It's purely assumption based. Constantly this author assumes that because she is in a relationship with Aang, Katara would drop her whole personality. What? Katara would not and could not be forced to do something or conform to some label and Aang wouldn't let it get to that point either. He would squash any idea that she is just "The Avatar's wife" or "The mother of the Avatar's children" the minute he heard it.

Seven: [comparing Katara's reaction to Aang The Desert to Aang's reaction to Katara in The Southern Raiders] "You'll spend a long time looking for her condescending tones. "Anger won't help, Aang," Katara never said, because she got that he was processing something painful and needed to sort it out himself. This difference in behavior is something that would be really fitting for a twelve year old boy to learn and understand. There's just no indication that he ever did."

Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but I don't remember Aang being condescending towards Katara. He was offering his advice because he knew her and knew that she would regret doing what she thought was right when her judgement was clouded by anger. And guess what. He was right. He never forced anything on her, either. Sure, he was a bit more pushy than he could've been, but in the end he let her go on the trip with no complaints. He even agreed that this was something she had to do.

Eighth: [referencing The Ember Island Players] "When the actor says 'Wait! I thought you were the Avatar's girl', Aang agrees. Katara is his."

You know damn well Aang doesn't see Katara as just his. And she's give him PLENTY of reason to believe that his feelings are reciprocated (which they are).

Ninth: "It's the story of a woman who swallows everything lest the man she's interested in has to learn anything about his behavior that violates her boundaries."

Ha! You said she was interested in him.

But in all seriousness, you mentioned how Katara stood her ground and told Aang that she was confused, but apparently now she's swallowing her feeings.

Tenth: [talks about the cloud babies daddy issues]

I don't disagree with what is said here, for the most part, but I don't think it is a reflection on Aang and Katara's relationship.

Eleventh: "... given what what we got with Kataang, it's completely unsurprising that Aang and Katara's parenthood/adult life was defined by a lack of communication and availability, at least from what we can tell. This also puts Katara's choice to immediately moved to the South Pole once Aang died in perspective; perhaps the city he poured all his energy into, at the cost of his family, held some bitter memories."

Once again with the lack communication. We can't use the early years of their relationship to determine their whole relationship. Also, there wasn't consistently a lack of communication, you just pointed out one time and ran with it.

We don't know at what point Katara moved back to the South Pole, but there are plenty of reasons for Katara to leave Air Temple Island:

a) Her son moving in/or planning to move in with his family.

b) She was no longer needed in the city and thus had no need to stay.

c) She wanted to go back to her native home for comfort after the love of her life died at a relatively early age.

d) The next Avatar was discovered and she came home to train them.

That's all. Thank you for reading my unnecessary rant if you made it this far, and I just want to close out with a few things:

- There were some things in the article that I did not include for the fear of this becoming a novel of me repeating myself.

- I agree with most thing said in the final segment of the the article. Most, not all.

- I appreciate the author for not trying to shove Zutara in just because Kataang wasn't there. That is becoming increasingly uncommon, so it was nice to see.

[redjaybathood]

But consider this: Jason coming back to life when the whole Robin movement takes off - no Alfred! Just kids, finding each other, deciding to work together. Finding Jason on the streets, without memory, without anything, almost catatonic (almost, because he did survive on the streets for months before getting discovered). And boy, can he fight.

Say, it's during the time when Duke was looking for his parents at the sewers. Duke is in trouble! He got discovered! But suddenly there are all those Robins around him, fighting to get him away and up to the surface.

And, when they do reach the surface, they notice another teenager there.

"Friend of yours?" Troy says, wrinkling his nose.

(Because the reason Jason wasn't discovered as an outsider - he didn't smell like an outsider)

"I thought he's with you!" Duke exclaims. "He punched the man who tried to get at me even before you guys showed up."

"Okay," Isabella addresses Jason. "So who are you?"

"R. Rrrobin."

That's kinda all Jason can say, pointing at the "R" on her hat.

"Yeah, we all are, buddy," Dax says. "But what's your name?"

Jason can't actually say, even if he knew. He tries, though. But all what comes out of his mouth is just, sounds. Not words.

And obviously they don't know what to do with him. They don't have a base. They can't bring him to any of their homes. But they can't just leave him, right?

So Riko remembers about the abandoned toy factory. They bring him there, and actually decide that this could work for their home base. They clear some areas, setup a place to sleep, to eat, to plan, to train.

But before that, there's a bomb to take care of. They get to the Hall of Records, they disarm the bomb with guidance from Sug-R, but when they get to the second one, it's too deep underground, they lose the signal. A train goes by, they lose even more time because of that. Jason is on panic, but still can't say anything, just keeps tugging them away by their sleeves. Eventually, some of them, Dre, probably, Duke, Izzy, insist on getting on the next train and getting the hell out of here. Troy insists that he will stay and try the red wire. When the train comes, and all of them get on, Troy tries to stay, except. Except Jason, who was almost frozen at that point, jumps at him and knocks him out and drags him onto the train.

The bomb goes off, but - no dead Robins.

Troy, of course, is pissed at him, thinks if Jason didn't interfere, he would have been able to disarm the bomb. "Jackass!" He says.

Jason shakes his head, pointing at himself.

"Jay."

That's how they find out his name.

So, the abandoned toy factory is the Nest. It's all very low-tech, but they do have some security Jason manages to rig up. Traps, wires that will ring a bell deep into the Nest, alerting you to outsider presence.

"I can't understand how he's not able to utter a single sentence but manages to set it all up?" Dax says.

It's a puzzle. And Duke loves puzzles.

But he had to table it for now.

They aren't the only Robins in Gotham anymore. There's a Robin cell in Midtown, North East, South, everythere. There are Robins who work alone.

And there's a kid who tried to stop the robbery, and in the ensuing shooting, the robber and the police officer responding to the call, dead.

Police hunts Robins, now. Gotham turns into the fascist state. Owls target Bruce Wayne. Robins find out about it by accident: first of all, they're trying to figure out what happened in the store. They manage to get a hold on the footage: it's obvious that the kid shot the robber, but the police officer was killed by his own firearm. It went off when robber was fighting for the control of the gun with him. And it's a pretty easy to check ballistics, even if you don't think the footage is enough evidence.

But the narrative pushed by cops and the city council is something else entirely. It seems deliberate... Because it is. Tailing the councilwoman Noctua, who is the most ardent supporter of War on Robins, leads them to discover the conspiracy to murder Bruce Wayne, even if the reason is unclear. They save him - with the help from "Mr. Sparrow" and Batgirl. But in the middle of a fight, when Jason pushes Bruce into another room, Bruce, not realizing the boy is not attacking but saving him, tries to fight back and accidentally snatches the bandana off his lower part of the face.

They don't recognize each other.

Dick doesn't pay much attention to anything except the fight and keeping Bruce safe. Barbara, same. When it's all over and done with, Jason has a splitting headache. He slips out by himself, before anyone could notice.

Robins are captured, along with the Robin and Red Robin. As Jason is in the same cell as Duke, the ones fighting "To the death!" are Damian and Tim. Using the distraction, Jason and Duke, and then the rest of Robins following, push their cells so they would knock into each other. Maybe Tim pulls a Grayson - as Jason calls it, absent-mindedly, to Duke: "They're pulling a Grayson" - and it doesn't make any sense, not the name of the maneuver, not the fact that J knows it, nor him just saying that, no stutter.

So all the Robins are free and flee.

Red Robin and the Robin kinda insist to tag along to the Nest? And then J pulls his bandana off and holy shit, Tim thinks. That's a zombie. Again.

I mean, what else he could think? This is Jason Todd, dead son of Batman, who is somehow not dead, still Robin, and now younger than Tim. But when he says that outloud:

"You're... You're Jason! The second Robin? How are you still alive?"

But now that the danger passed, J is barely responsive again, and it's Troy who answers:

"Uh, no, he's the seventh Robin. There's Iz, Riko, Shug-,r, me, Dre, Dax, and Duke. J joined way after."

"You met him the same night as you met me!" Duke points out.

But Troy says:

"He wasn't yet there-there, you know? He got better over time."

And Jason really did. Having a secure base, being able to sleep, having food, thanks to the help of the others, and people who talked to him, it all really helped to mitigate at least some of the damage. Not every resource at his disposal was used just for survival now. He has troubles with noizes, sights, smells sometimes, he has those headaches (they were even thinking about getting a helmet for him, so he would be less touched by those outside factors, plus, even more head trauma wouldn't be good for him). He still doesn't speak (except that moment in the cage). But sometimes now it's clear when he listens. He can focus. He can plan.

Anyway. Tim knows, Damian figures out, and now it's a question what to do about it. Tim says to Damian: "Listen, we can't tell anyone. Alfred would want to get him home, and that would place Bruce's recovery in danger, even more than it already is." And it's not like Damian cared about Jason, but now the Drake said he can't,he wants to.

Ultimately, he doesn't. He broaches to topic of second Robin with Dick, recieves to usual "Jason was an angry kid who didn't listen and died" and decides it's not worth it. Idk.

Alfred, though. Alfred though knew all along. He was the one who initially pulled the Robins into underground, to save Duke. Only when he saw Jason there too, he... Couldn't get any closer to any of them. He thought he was hallucinating it. Lost his marbles out of grief. Or that it was a warning sign: encouraging those kids meant another one gets blown up.

[fem-fatalist]

These muslim rape gangs and rape groups even go after Hijabis. One of my acquaintances was followed and they attempted to grope her, calling her a slut. She had to sit next to a police officer who didn't interfere as she was harassed verbally. A lot of girls, especially in the left/liberal political camp do not want to rat out misbehavior like that because they get enormous amounts of peer pressure. Left wing clubs can't protect women, so there's much less women going out over all out of fear.

I mean, if they exist then that wouldn’t surprise me.  Misogyny is misogyny. What I’m saying though is that I’m having trouble finding evidence that isn’t some conservative literally republishing same/similar stories accompanied with hand-wringing and xenophobic bullshit.  It just gets exhausting, you know? To sift through so much stuff to make the conclusion that “wow, all these people are making these wild conclusions based on a single very sketchy account.” 

And when that account is in turn from a dubious source, you can understand my skepticism. 

This Rotherham story is horrific, and especially frustrating in that investigations were delayed due to concerns about being called racist. 

That in and of itself is awful, but also emblematic of a wider problem with how we deal with this uncomfortable shit.  People get pissed off about privilege, but I wonder what would happen if we honestly just fucking deal with it, set aside the ego, accept it and move on--- I wonder if that would have enabled people to put aside the race issue and see the heart of the matter: young people were being taken advantage of in a terrible way and that needed to stop. 

And we can do that without extrapolating ridiculous conclusions about differences of culture or religion or what the fuck ever as the “true” culprit.  That’s my issue with a lot of chatter around these alleged “rape gangs” is that it almost always comes with “well obviously Muslims/immigrants/middle-eastern/brown people are evil degenerates” which is obviously a racist/xenophobic conclusion. 

There’s no way of knowing precisely why that officer didn’t interfere. And I don’t know what you mean by “left wing clubs” because the leftists I know wouldn’t hesitate to oust or bring retribution down on a rapist. And for the record they’re also pretty circumspect about allegations, cuz you need to be sure before you ruin someone’s day. Just depends where they fall on the leftist spectrum I guess. People tend to lump liberals in with leftists and that’s kinda...a misnomer in many ways.  That’s a whole other bag of apples tho. 

Thanks for the input my greyface friend, but the fact is is that I’ve seen that behavior from groups of popped collar white bros downtown, and gangs of any stripe are not above going after women, so to say it’s at all specific to Muslims is suspect. Hope you see what I mean.