#and in stampede which arguably takes place before vash adopts that sillier persona knives SEES and KNOWS what's going to happen
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#in the top 3 stampede moments I regularly think about#stampede rlly reinterpreted trigun to make it all about love. vash's love for rem. knives' love for him. vash's love for humanity.#in the manga knives does not crash the ships because of vash. he does it because he thinks humanity is a blight#ik that stampede is technically a prequel and what happens in july is leading up to vash reexamining n solidifying his pacifism#but the kicker is that knives' is RIGHT! vash repeatedly gets rejected by other people#someone tries shooting him and when his angel arm protects him the townspeople start throwing ROCKS at him#in the manga his goofiness is a facade! to make himself small to make himself seem harmless to make it so that he can avoid fighting#and in stampede which arguably takes place before vash adopts that sillier persona knives SEES and KNOWS what's going to happen#he thinks vash is debasing himself he thinks vash needs to be protected he thinks HE knows better for vash than vash#and so he proceeds to remake vash. not for him. but for VASH himself.#so vash can achieve happiness but it's knives' standard of happiness#so who's the selfish one and who's the selfless one#do they actually love each other? can they love each other without understanding each other?#or maybe they just think they understand each other#which is why despite everything they try and try and try to get the other to understand#for that small sliver of a possibility#UGHHHGRGKRHGK#trigun.talk
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