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#and i honestly can't blame fans for shipping the friendship instead in that kind of situation
dragon-wisteria 9 months
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I don't hold to the idea that all intense/deeply meaningful relationships have to be romantic
BUT I do think it's bad if a character has a much more intense and meaningful relationship with their friend than they do with their actual romantic life partner.
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akookminsupporter 4 years
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Ayo!
I've been an army for almost two years now. And been into Jikook for... A year? Idk how it started but I'm glad it did. Honestly for the first time I ever came across a ship was TK, we all know how abundant they are on YouTube and other platforms. There are like tons of analysis videos and reaction channels claiming that Jk and V are not only gay, but a couple and moreover having sexual gestures (which I still don't figure out and don't see). One question, Why?
I mean, I saw this single clip so many times (from kkul fm maybe?) where the boys are sitting and talking/reading out something. As what Tkks claim, V rubs/touches his foot against Jk's and the latter is sexually aroused?
Again, what? And why?
I'm not going to point out meaningless moments which were pure and could've been seen as a genuine link of friendship between them, instead of being forcefully interpreted and labeled as 'sexual'.
Because No, they're not going and making out in the bathrooms at award shows. Or touching each other under the table. Or having a secret way of teasing (ew) each other. Or giving sensual gazes to each other.
I stopped watching TK videos because of Tkks, the reasons and standards they've set are so erotic. I personally can't help but feel uncomfortable to be point where I leave the video. And that's why I was hesitant of Jikook as well. You won't believe me, I feel so bad that because of these Tkks my mind can't think of V as it did before. Earlier I used to watch V so much, despite my bias being Jk. I genuinely loved him. But what Tkks showed me, now I feel kinda intimidated by V. And I hate this. The never-ending speculations about him, has been traumatic.
That's why when I watch Jikook now, I actually feel relaxed and happy. And I don't watch TK now. Its really disappointing that their own shippers made me distant from the two boys whose friendship I used to love.
I'm not saying all the Tkks are like that, but I'm saying it from my experience.
Ah sorry, I wrote too long 馃槄
I think one or the main appeal of taekook to their shippers is that they see jungkook and Tae as manly man having a sexual relationship with each other, because from what little I've seen, it's not a romantic relationship and all the implications that that would have that they see. I don't know if it's a fetish? A fantasy.
This is my personal opinion so keep that in mind as you read this.
There is a certain curiosity, I don't know what the right word would be, of some heterosexual women about relationships between two men, and often the sexual relationship between them. Personally I think that's what happens with some taekook shippers. 聽As you say many of their theories are highly sexual and erotic, and while sex is not a bad thing, to speculate in that way about two people is disrespectful and honestly disturbing.
The photo that Tae uploaded to weverse with jungkook for new year is a clear example of this. The mirror in front of which they took a picture had a white spot on it, you can imagine the grotesque comments and theories that appeared on twitter mainly because of that. Another thing I noticed is that they or some of them don't seem to see jungkook or Tae as people, but as characters in their fantasies. That they should act the way they want them to and when they don't they get upset. They hate other members or rather, they hate jimin because for them jimin is an obstacle in the culmination of their fantasies: jungkook and tae together.
To blame or punish Tae for the actions of his so-called stans is unfair. Taehyung is one of the most pure, intriguing聽and versatile men I have ever seen. Tae is a loving person who deserves the whole world, sometimes it makes me sad that those kind of people call themselves his fans, because their behaviour goes against everything Tae stands for, hating jimin is something he would never condone.
I want to clarify that I don't think that all taekookers are or think this way, it is never good to generalise; but it is true that the ones that are like this are sometimes the noisiest ones.
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SC stan here,
I was surprised other day when I saw some tweets comparing Chris and Katie..
I was confused. Whats with some Kmcg stans constantly pitting her and chris against each other? She is living own life, Chris is living his own life!! Why are you even comparing these two persons? I even saw few persons tweet that Chris is jealous of Katie, threatened by her presence? Katie makes chris feel insecure. And then looked deep to know why are they even saying Chris is jealous of Katie then I realized those people are the ones who ship Melissa/Katie for real, I was really shocked. The extent they go to prove something that's definitely not there? Instead of getting angry at them I pity them. I also saw so many tweets of Katie stans calling Julie gonzola, Andrea brooks, Azie, that actress from Dracula as her wife 馃槼
Man, they desperately want Katie to be a lesbian 馃槗 so they started shipping her with any woman that says "hi" to her. I have never seen a Fandom like this before. Like I said I pity them. And hate towards chirs is because they are jealous of him because he married Melissa and the father of her child. They take their anger out on chris and other male actors in SG. They were jealous of Mehcad because he was close to Katie and posted pics of her kissing his cheek, hugging him, pic of Katie's lipstick on his lips and that's the reason Meh received lot of hate, they sent death threats to him.
And everytime Melissa talks to Katie or just smilies at her they make it sound like they "Melissa has never smiled before nor had any fun"
Mel had way more fun with Chris, Jeremy, Mehcad, Chyler, David on set. Does that mean you are going to ship her with all these ppl too? Like what is wrong with all these ppl? What are they trying to achieve by doing all this? Cast members, arrowverse Fandom, Lot of other lesbians hate SC fandom and I honestly don't blame them. And feeling really sad both chris and Melissa.
All these bullying and harassment from Katie stans will only stop if she dates a woman but let's be honest that's never gonna happen. She have only dated men. Mentioned that she got her dog ushy after her bf dumped her, took her bf to King Arthur event, there is a video of her kissing this guy, mentioned in an Interview one day she wanted kids. What more proof they want to know that KT is only interested in men. She even made a sexual joke about hozier's d***..
Honestly stans twitter is so crazy. You can't enjoy anything these without people mixing fiction with reality. Few more months and all this is gonna be over. Looking forward to it. But I am ngl I am afraid who they are gonna harass when Katie gets cast in other shows!!
Hey sc stan! Hope you are doing well!
Yeaaaaaaaaah, I have seen shit like that and it's not the most gross what you can find. The funniest shit is they claim they joke about it and ship smeltie as friendship. But you know, I have never seen any other fnadom or group of people doing this kind of shit just for fun. I seriously didn't know hating on an innocent being can be "fun" but I guess I have different standards? *sarcasm*
Tbh with you, I kind of think they treat Katie and Mel as brainless dolls and just pour their headcanons and wantings on them. So you are right, they don't really treat them as humans.
The saddest thing is how they treated Mehcad in s2 (aka poor black actor who was ignroed and downgraded for a white slave owner) and in s3 (suddenly he became problematic, transphobe, woman hater etc. - wonder why, huh?).
The worts thing is how becasue of them WHOLE sg fandom is going to be seen - as a bunch of crazy horrible gross online abusers.
Tbh, I'm not interested in McG's personal life and who she dates, whatever, I wish her luck with a male or woman or single. The problem is her fans want to force what they want on her what is once again, treating her as a doll. Also, i wonder how many roles she is going to get with a fandom with this kind of amazing reputation *sarcasm continues*.
Well, whatever goddamned poor fandom that ends with her is fucked. And that's a fact.
Seriously, thanks to her fanatics I guess SG is going to be the last fandom I'm going to involved my ass.
Anyway, thanks for the anon. Stay safe :)
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