#and i don't even feel the tiniest least bit sorry for him and frankly i doubt anyone else does either

[qqueenofhades]

I’m thinking it’s more likely this was a legit attempt, but in comparison to the last attempt I think the evidence for it being staged is way stronger. It was on Trump’s own property aka a way more easily controlled environment, the guy was much further away than Crooks was and he never actually got any shots off so no one even got hurt, he survived long enough to be taken into police custody, and this is all happening less than a week after a very bad debate performance and an endorsement from a woman so influential we have the data to name an Effect after her. Like again I think it’s more likely a legit attempt but either way it’s still a nothing burger.

I mean, didn't Trump and Vance just tell us to "get over" gun violence and that it was a "fact of life" in between their busy schedule of inciting racist mobs on Springfield, Ohio?

Did something change between now and then when the MAGAs are suddenly so concerned with preventing white Republicans from having access to guns?

Weird.

[izzyliker]

hey - this is one of the mods of the bi jon project. we don't actually dislike or disagree with pan jon at all, we just want to make a project focused on and celebrating bisexuality. our carrd is a bit rambling, but frankly we were trying our best/overcompensating to try and make sure people didn't misunderstand us and do - well, this. our intentions are good, and it's really kind of disenheartening to see all the hate we've gotten for what was meant to be a positive project. (1)

you're under no obligation to answer these, but i saw some of your posts in the tag and felt like reaching out because you did give us even the tiniest bit of slack in good faith. honestly, if you have any advice about what in our carrd is so overwhelmingly bad, we'd be happy to hear it. we've been trying to respond to the overwhelming amount of criticism we've got in a positive way, and take peoples' suggestions. (2)

as for why 'no anti-antis' was at the bottom of our rules list, it's legitimately bc we were trying so hard to be preventative about this negativity that we forgot to add it when we first posted the blog, and just remembered later. again, you're under no obligation to answer these, i just feel like no one's really actually letting us defend ourselves/are taking things in as bad faith a way as possible. (3)

im not exactly sure how the posts showed up in the tag bc ive been very purposefully not tagging them, also ive blocked all of you back (not sure why you blocked me if you actually want feedback, so it seems more like you just want free positive pr and not actual feedback) so its unlikely youll see whatever it is that i reply to this but whatever. 

the issues have all been repeatedly brought up to you so i dont really see how me repeating all of them once again could help. when i last looked at the cardd the things that stood out immediately included. 

pitting ace & bi identities and people against each other REPEATEDLY,  

starting off with a guilt trippy tone and maintaining it throughout (in my experience this is the #1 best way to receive backlash because people do not want to participate in events where you feel like youre being guilted into it, which going into scrutinizing detail over there not being enough content and passing judgement onto authors or artists over it is something that comes across as guilt trippy.),

repeatedly equating asexuality with sex repulsion (not to get into the misleading information about modteam aspec identity breakdowns, since you claimed that 3/4 of the team are aspec, which is technically correct, but what you didnt say was that only one is acespec. surely you know that [allosexual] aro and [alloromantic] ace are not interchangeable) and calling using biromantic over bisexual a “misunderstanding” of the identity as if how to define romantic vs sexual attraction (how to divide, if or if not to divide, use interchangeably different labels) isnt a deeply personal choice ace people who experience romantic attraction make, 

claiming that bisexual jon is canon (he isn’t. this is why people are suspicious of anti-other mspec identities sentiments. which theyre right, if youll be so kind as to stick around til the last paragraph) and repeatedly implying that the reason there isnt “enough” content centering bi jon because the aces are simply unable to not fixate on his asexuality (again, pitting identities against each other),

making the banned ship list way needlessly confusing and including ships that dont even include jon to it, which simply comes across as some kind of a list of bad ships, idk. a way to bypass this would simply be to say “we are looking for portrayals of healthy relationships!” and that couldve just been it. if you felt that that wouldnt exclude specific ships (eg. jondaisy that a lot of people write as a relationship between trauma survivors who have done very bad things trying to get better and learning to trust each other) it is possible to simply say “the modteam is squicked[/triggered] by ships with daisy/elias/peter and we’d like to read all of the works submitted so we’re asking not to receive submissions with those ships.” hating ships is literally completely normal but making rules hard to parse is going to attract questions, especially when the implication is that ships are excluded on the grounds of morality, and a blatant power difference ship (jonelias) is equated with jondaisy, which is from what ive seen almost exclusively shown to be a relationship between equals. that makes people EXTREMELY confused about where the line is. thats why youre getting so many questions about this.  

in general the carrd was spotty, guilt trippy, and needlessly moralizing where it definitely did not need to be. the key to getting people to engage without getting backlash is to make the event seem fun. when your carrd is filled with stuff about unrelated negative stuff people are not going to think it’s a fun event at all. 

and none of this even gets into the fact that at least one of the mods has a history of open hostility against pan people. i heard through the grapevine that he has since made a fauxpology about it, but frankly it already shone through in the language used in the event descriptions. its extremely hard to take any of this is good faith when it is easy to see that one of the organizers is quite fucking clear about thinking pansexuality is biphobic and the carrd is or at least used to be full of anti-pan (and other mspec identity) dogwhistles, and is notorious in some of the tma fic author circles for being extremely fucking nasty about trans men writing fic he doesn’t like to the point of pretending that we’re all cis people (in case youre not keeping track that is misgendering us by implication) because he doesn’t like it. i think some of you (or maybe all of you? idk) in general could stand to examine whether your engagements and participations in the fandom have been at all about having fun or adding positivity to anything, or simply making posts about what other people are doing wrong. it seems that every post i see from anyone in this group is guilt trippy and authoritative, and sadly this translated directly into the event. 

when youre, say, a trans man whose first touch to one of the mods was a post about how fic where trans men have piv sex with cis men is hurting him personally and making it a moral issue and not a matter of a simple preference to the point where he feels comfortable making claims about the trans men (and transmasc nonbinary people) writing fic about trans characters re: their gender or whether theyre fetishizing trans men, your willingness to engage in good faith with an event hosted by him that features numerous red flags is not going to be unconditional. 

im sorry to hear that it has been bad for your mental health, and idk whats fucking going on with this event anymore, but my good faith interpretations have diminished significantly since i saw the shit tmc specifically has been saying about pansexual people and pansexuality as an identity label. i have no clue where the rest of you stand but tmc has repeatedly, consistently shown himself to be unable to act in good faith towards anyone other than people who agree with him.  

[miracleofdespair]

don't deal with the devil / ryuuya / chapter one (re: get killing, event, captain voting, so much im so sorry)

Frankly, Ryuuya didn't want to go to the Light Garden. Not that he had any specific problem with the place, nah, but he wanted to see what this ever so mysterious and threatening whooOOOoo scaryyy~ voice would do if he didn't. Ryuuya Okamura was bossed around by no disembodied voice, thank you very much!

But he'd be lying if he said he wasn't curious about what it wanted, so he still showed up in the end. And... and...

"...haah. Hah... ahah...! Hahaha...! Gahahaha--!! Hahahahaha!!! GAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!"

What a fucking riot. 

The boy was doubled over, tears in his eyes, laughing with absolute delight. Was this guy serious? Was this guy absolutely serious? Did he really think this was gonna work? Ryuuya didn't have a clue what exactly this 'Zertro' guy was trying to accomplish or why he was doing it but frankly he didn't care.

Did it really matter in the long run, when...

"God-- ya nearly had me there, pal...! 'Ohhhh, ya gotta kill each other 'cause I say so, ohhh look at me and my scaaary eyes and scaaaary shadow arm that ain't just cosplay contacts and props'!! Didn't know we got to have two SHSL Edgelords around here, kehahahaha!!!"

Ryuuya slowly pulled himself back up after a couple more seconds of laughter. He set one hand on his hip, the other resting on the brim of his hat, as he took in the reactions of his peers...

...ok, maybe they didn't think this was as funny as he did. Maybe they needed to get better senses of humor, or maybe... their fears and worries were justified? A threat like this, that kind of thing being sprung on you after waking up somewhere unknown, after being unable to get help or leave for three days... that sort of thing was terrifying.

He guessed.

Zertro had said something about roles, something Ryuuya had barely registered through how hilarious the rest of the guy's speech was, but he figured it was worth a look-see. He whipped out his ID, looked it over...

...ah.

Hm. 

Interesting.

Well, something to keep in mind, or something. Whatever. Without much another word, Ryuuya turned and took his leave. Why stick around? Why worry? Sure, the prolonged stay was a bit concerning, and he'd be lying if he wasn't at least the tiniest bit nervous about what his peers would do, judging by some of their reactions... but... still!

What could possibly happen?

...

“Who’s gonna start the killing?”

Ryuuya had to slap a hand over his mouth to muffle the laughter pouring from it before the 'outlaw' could even finish his speech. The rest of it only exacerbated it, and by the time he was through Ryuuya let his hand go, giggle fit now unmuffled, unleashed.

He could not be serous.

"Ohhhhh my GOD!! <Oh my god!!> Ya couldn't stand that one guy takin' your SHSL Edgelord title so ya had to go and stand your round, huh??? Y'know, 'this town ain't big 'nough for th' two of us' -- geheheheheh!!!"

He kicked his feet up on the table he was seated at, being sure to move his plate over (hey, free food was free food!) so they were safe and out of the way of his legs. 

"Come on, ya can't be for real here, none of us are gonna kill anybody just 'cause some nerd in cosplay told us to. 'nless you're in on it, maybe that 'outlaw' title just means you're some kinda actor... that, or you're just a big tryhard, keheheheh..."

He wasn't gonna take this guy seriously if he kept insisting he was a leprechaun (whatever that was). Ryuuya went about his way with his food without another word. 

...

And then... Nerd Shit.

Ryuuya thought he'd make a good leader. Not that he'd had any experience, he was generally a solo kinda guy, but... y'know, he'd still be good! He could feel it in his heart, or something! Maybe it was the ego talking.

(Hint: It was the ego talking.)

But all these people... throwing up posters and giving speeches, it all felt like the kids at his old school running for the student council or something. Something surprisingly mundane among all this weird, but it was still.

Nerd City.

He didn't plan to run a campaign himself - as much as he thought he'd make a great leader, and as much didn't want one of these scrubs thinking they could boss him around, it just wasn't his kind of thing.

A girl in blue had said something about a headcount and an attack, and that was... odd. Much as he thought all this 'murder game' hoohah wasn't real, the scissors and that blood on it very much was. Maybe he shouldn't be so... casual, about all this, maybe he should start being more properly worried.

...nah.

No one was missing, by the sounds of it, someone'd said some stuff about a machine and getting stuff from it (he'd have to look into that, maybe...)... people went about their way, continuing their little campaigns, and Ryuuya decided to follow suit. Well, with the former, at least, he had better things to do with his time than put up dinky little papers listing all his qualities (of which there were many, thank you very much) and give a cheesy little speech about how he'd 'keep everyone safe' and 'look out for everybody' and etc etc etc.

Call him when you're not in Nerd Central, thanks.