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Hi! I am starting to get into the figure skating fandom and i just read something about Shoma being a misogynist and saying he hates women... so can you please explain me 😳 i really like his programs and musicality so it would be really disappointing
Sorry if there's any mistake, english is not my first languaje
And of course you don't have to answer if you dont want c:
Puh...well...yeah I don't want to answer, but I do. I have talked about that many times in the past, you can also look that up if you want to.
In short:
There was a gaming stream back in September 2019 - translations turned up much later in November 2019 - where Shoma said: "he hates girls his age as he sees them to hard to impress boys" This is literally the gist of it all. Is that sentence ok? No. Can it be seen as offensive? Yes. Is he a mysogynist because of it? No.
The gaming stream was more than 4 hours long and he was asked about dating and girls via the stream ask box.
Also let's not forget that this gaming channel, while it sounds like his voice, was never officially tied to his name. So there is no proof it was him at all.
Some backgrounds story:
September 2019 was a time when Shoma was without a coach. He was without any doubt depressed. Nothing in his skating worked. As we know from official interviews he was close to quit skating but also didn't know what else to do.
Now some background story to when it has been brought to attention to English Twitter:
It's been known for two months already. IdF 2019 was a complete disaster for Shoma as he only placed 8th in a GP where he usually would medal. There was a huge wave of support for him on any social media platform even ppl who weren't his fans showed worry about his state of skating. Suddenly that bomb dropped. Co-incidence?
The translation of this sentence vary a lot. Some insist he said "hate" some other translators say it's "dislike". If not even Japanese speaking ppl are sure of what was meant? How can we be?
The Japanese speaking fandom never gave that whole thing much attention. There must be a thing we miss in the conversation. Maybe it's a cultural difference.
Here is my opinion:
Imo the Twitter translations blew it up. It was one sentence! I mean do ppl even know how a real mysogynists talk? It's trivializing real problems. Also never said something in a heated moment you didn't mean?
He surely shouldn't have said that and I see why ppl can be disappointed in that sentence. All feelings are valid. If you don't want to support Shoma any longer I can understand that. What I don't understand is the vitriol and hatred. Name calling is not ok. No one knows Shoma in person, so how can anyone claim to know how he is? I for one am on the side of forgiveness. I still support Shoma!
For all we know that is true about Shoma is, that he is close to Satoko and Marin (if dating or not), he dressed as a girl in The Ice shows with a lot of effort (he even let the girls make his make- up), he is polite and humble towards any female fan or fans in general (I can tell from my own experience - he even kneeled on the floor to sign autographs when surrounded by a group of female fans!), there has never been any bad word about him from any skater in the world, Marin was introduced in his YouTube channel, he made countless compliments about the other female skaters (like how they are better at steps, how admirable the quads of the Tutberidze girls are, the one he had in mind doing his guts pose at Worlds 2017 was Satoko who was injured at the time). Ask yourself if this is the behavior of a mysogynist?
Also if any of you need multiple translations with context, you can dm me. I have collected that at the time back then. And like I said in other posts before it matters who translated it as it reads differently from everyone especially if you're a native speaker or not. I always wonder why someone would translate something about someone they never liked.
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