#and children don't even have control over their own care. as evidenced by the fact that i was denied medication by my mother

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Really hate the 'welcome to adulthood, hope you like ibuprofen!' style of post because do you know how much better my childhood and adolescence would have been if I'd had access to ibuprofen.

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More Major Plot Spoilers for Wednesday S1, this time about Tyler/Xavier/Wednesday (READ AT YOUR OWN RISK)

halfway through my prev post i realized this was unrelated for the most part, so I cut it and put it in a new one instead.

but i have so many thoughts about what the fuck is going on between tyler and xavier

for the record, i don't think that the painting was the real reason xavier hates tyler so freaking much. or it wasn't all of it. (also can we note it's xavier who hates tyler? like really hates him. tyler doesn't seem to return that sentiment? idk. seems important to me.) like yes could xavier's behavior be jealousy over wednesday? maybe. could it be a reaction of the mural being destroyed? yes, but it was a year ago. also we as the audience, do not know what officially went down. we have bits and pieces, but no full story. from xavier we see hatred, jealousy, anger, and bitterness. from tyler we see regret, indifference, uncertainty and either neutrality or feigned neutrality. like, this post by @shipping2survive said it so right; the painting was destroyed exactly a year ago, right? thats when we can also presume that laurel got her claws in tyler, because she arrived a year ago. maybe tyler didn't want to destroy that painting, we see that there might be a shred of regret. it could be false, it could be real. but, WHY? why would he have destroyed it, if it wasn't important to him to do that? think about it, why would laurel push him towards that or influence it. if it wasn't her influence, why would he have been compelled to do that? we see in the show a year after that he's not like, actively attacking outcasts. he is also not friends with the people he was a year ago either, who we see are bigotted. so what exactly happened a year ago. why was he doing that, a year ago? and why does he say he's not sure why he did that? like, yes he is being manipulative because of laurel, but how much of what he says is false. he is either telling the truth that he doesn't know or he is lying here. but, what's the lie? that he knows why? that the reason is something wednesday shouldn't know? the fuck? what could possibility be strange, weird or worth hiding about that situation? because if the reason was that at the time he just hated outcasts, wednesday wouldn't care. he doesn't now, right? he is not friends with those people anymore. okay, then so why hide that. why not say it? If the reason was because of laurel, why on earth did she encourage it? why was xavier's mural something important to her to get tyler to destroy. eh? you see how this math isn't mathing. there's another piece here, theres something not being said. also on another note, xavier keeps painting tyler? like a lot? so much so he is having like consistent prophetic dreams about tyler in his hyde form? has at least 10 paintings of him? he has so many paintings in fact that it made HIM look like HE was the hyde. one of those paintings also made him lose control of his own powers and it attacked him? are we glossing over this? are we forgetting that this happened? i don't think this was a throwaway plot, guys. i don't think this was just a red herring, guys. the show might, might, be trying to tell us something.

and imho it's either that xavier has a soul bond to wednesday, as evidenced by a couple of things (and I mean this in a potentially a platonic way, soul bonds do NOT have to be romantic, they can be, but i'm neutral and can swing either way for these characters). if they have a soul bond it would make sense why they met as children (fate). why xavier paints ravens. why he has dreams of tyler, the ongoing threat to wednesday. a soul bond through psychic powers would make sense. however, if we disregard wednesday for a second, it remains a point that technically laurel was the real threat to wednesday. so why did xavier only see the monster. and why when we see other important plot details that xavier sketches or paints, why was the hyde what 'lurked in the back of his mind, watching'. why was xavier's psychic ability locked on tyler and not laurel. even if the plot wanted to keep laurel a secret. there are ways it could have, without including only tyler in hyde form in xavier's paintings.

imagine this; he paints the same amount of paintings of the hyde. but he ALSO paints those gates, the mansion, the grave (without the name for obscurity), the dead brother, the father, the mother, the family portrait, the music box, the childhood bed, the view from her fucking window, the flowers, the way she supposedly died. ALL THINGS xavier could have instead painted. all things that point to laurel and make the threat apparent, but hidden unless you research.

but the show didn't do that. the show could have. it didn't. why? maybe because there is something more going on between xavier and tyler? maybe the soul bond isn't to wednesday, but tyler? idk yet. but damn am i thinking hard. there are all these details that just feel so important to me, but i haven't locked in everything yet, it is driving me absolutely bonkers.

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Oh my God. So now people in Hollywood are threatening Darren and Chris's families if they don't comply? Tinhats are saying they wouldn't be surprised if someone died in a freak accident to put Darren and Chris in line. How long before they bring up Chris's mom and start getting suspicious?

Anonymous said: Damn it’s real dramatic over in CCLand today. Abby’s “anons” are talking about how someone must have threatened to kill Darren or Chris’s family if Darren didn’t get married. And then we have Abby saying that no matter what happens she won’t abandon them. Yeah, she is definitely setting the stage for claiming someone threatened to kill Chris if Darren didn’t have a baby with Mia. She knows a baby is coming eventually and she can’t let go of her CCThrone.

It’s da Mafia, my friends! 

They are so full of themselves-and so dramatic- it’s terrifying. 

I keep saying that Abby is writing a Telenovela and damn does she love the drama. She’s also desperate to keep her storyline going and there just isn’t a logical reason WHY Darren would be in the closet and married to Mia at this point unless you go for “big threats”. Abby has suggested this vague“threat” theory before but nobody else picked it up so we never had such scary-hilarious promises of allegiance to Criss and Colfer. This is exactly the kind of pithy, over-the-top emotional digging into a cause that social media was made for- the kind in which you have no actual impact but you blog the hell out it like you matter.  

One of the biggest issues with the CrissColfer storyline is why should we be sympathetic to ccDarren and/or ccChris? They are both successful, famous, wealthy, powerful men. Abby’s never-ending criticisms of ccDarren are becoming a problem. While she always blames it on “his team”, most people don’t find it so obviously his team’s fault as evidenced by her Nonnies who then get a lecture on HOW it IS his team’s fault. Of course, nobody is controlled by their employees and ccDarren and ccChris aren’t victims or children. 

Abby delights when she can claim that ccDarren is treating Mia abhorrently because it fulfills her hatred of Mia but nobody else feels so delighted. For instance, she claimed he was trying to pull her in the water during a New Year’s Eve embrace. 

I’m guessing, and we are missing the moment inbetween d goes to dip her so she things she’s getting her kiss but in fact tries to throw her in the water.(X)

The sane among us are disgusted by a claim that he would try to drown his wife. The same goes for ccChris when he publically bullies and shames Mia on social media and his books. Abby’s love of hating Mia often overshadows her need to keep ccChris and ccDarren as victims. 

The basis of CrissColfer is that both men want to be famous and work in Hollywood for the big money and they can’t tell their truth without fear of losing everything. After ten years, both men are no longer the “inexperienced, naive, innocent young men who made bad choices when fame was flashed in their faces” and Abby needs a new spin in order to keep her followers emotionally invested. Throw in a storyline where both men are just trying to stay afloat after their families were threatened and WHOA man, you have two very compelling characters with sympathy through the roof.

Anonymous asked: Let's not forget that with the wedding being the lesser of two evils, one of the threats could have gone far beyond you or C would never be working in this industry again, like you said, the people in power will do anything to hide their sins and there really is no limit, who knows a threat on his (or C's or other family) live could have been made. It sure as hell wouldn't be the first time someone dies in a freak accident because they have dirt on someone (Chris already lost his mom in a freak accident. I can’t imagine he would ruin his entire life over the fear of losing someone else when he understands that life is precious and you can’t control what happens to family members. Or the other argument is why would he allow someone to control his life when the easy solution is to go off to NYC and become an author.  Leave Hollywood behind for the man he loves and living an authentic life. It doesn’t seem like that hard of a tradeoff to me)

ajw720 answered: Nonnie. I’m really starting to question. And m has her family and SS on her side. That’s a lot of power and ruthlessness. (I'm always fascinated by the power that Abby imagines Mia’s family has. If Chris and Darren are powerless then why is the head of Vera Wang’s company so powerful? Mia’s dad owned a small chain of small music venues. He’s likely loaded but not in the BIG powerful world of movers and shakers. As for Sunshine Sachs- they are very powerful and healthy but there is little incentive for them to risk it all by getting involved in little unknown Darren’s love life by closeting him).    

I’ve decided. No matter what they throw at us, while i may not be able to watch as closely, I’m not abandoning them unless there comes a point I think it’s willing. I don’t see that happening. What is happening is not about straight. (What “they throw at us”? This isn’t about you, Abby. Nothing about CC is about you. You’re just a lonely, unstable fan sitting in her living room all alone obsessing about Mia and fabricating outrageous stories about a family you don’t know and a man who doesn’t care about you. I’m curious, what would convince you that he’s willing? You already said you wouldn’t believe him if he told you he loved Mia.  You’re destinated to come out the loser because you refuse to see or accept reality.)    

It’s about hiding sins. If it were just straight as I have repeatedly said it would be done better and with someone that actually makes d look good. (So she’s twisting the story to be about hiding sins.  I’m not sure how forcing the farce to continue is a good strategy to ensure you don’ get caught. It seems like a cut and run strategy is better- preferably with big payoffs. Lots of us DO think Darren does look good. It’s only the people obsessed that he’s gay who don’t like him).

I just hope they have finally aligned with the right people to help them (How would this work? Either Ryan and Sunshine are terrified of their role coming out, all-powerful and threatening his family to keep it quiet OR there are people to align with who can help but not both because people who threaten others' lives for their own interests aren’t going to show up at the negotiation table willing to work out and deal).

flowersintheattic254. @ajw720 I’ll state publicly that I’m with you on that. I’m not going away unless I see it’s willing. Right now it doesn’t seem to be and frankly the more I learn about Holly/wood and how people are manipulated and abused the more I think it isn’t a choice or a very unwilling one. (Why would Darren and Chris stay there if it is that bad?  If Hollywood is one big cesspool then reasonable people would get the hell out of dodge, do something because living in that environment will turn you into that kind of person.  Also, I just have to add that the Catholic Church has an abysmal record on sex abuse of women and children so if anyplace is manipulative and abusive, it’s Abby’s church)

leka-1998 Totally agreed.

I feel like every day I get more repulsed by what the people in that awful industry are capable of.

notes-from-nowhere If it is possible, the more I know, the more I feel compelled to stand up against this habits and fight back. (How exactly will you do that? I’m fascinated and can’t wait to hear)

Nothing will change overnight. Not D’s life, not the ones of the others in his same situation but we can do something. And as much as we could, I’m sure, we will. (No shit sherlock, you’re 10 years  inand no end in sight)

I will accept defeat the day D will show me, without a doubt, that this is what he wants for his life and not matter if right or wrong, I will respect his choice. To date, I don’t think we are even close to that. Time will tell. (Again, what can Darren do to prove to you? He married the woman he’s dated for 8 years, he opened a business with her, he gushed about the wedding, and he travels with her everywhere. When he tells you how he feels about her you all instantly dismiss his words as being contracted or “Mia wrote them”.  You refuse to SEE what is so plain in front of you. I cannot imagine what he could do that would convince you.)  

In the meantime I will keep doing what I do now. (which is lie, twist facts, post Glee photos as CrissColfer, make stupid comparisons, and blow some up Abby’s ass).   

Anonymous asked: I agree about HW and who knows what kind of nefarious shit goes on. The problem I have is his parents not intervening in this . I get there is probably blackmail at this point but surely his parents can see this can’t go on. I’m afraid it’s affecting his family at this point and I would think his dad would take the reigns at some point and say enough. This is the only thing that tells me it’s short term and there is an escape date. I don’t see his parents accepting something permanent.

Do they have a choice though nonnie? That’s the question. How are they more powerful then the heavy weights he’s up against? What has been threatened? I have an idea of where I think this is going but I don’t know and I’m firm there’s 2 distinct paths, one is freedom. The other is too horrifying for words. And I think by the end of the year we will know. (She is sure they will be divorcing after the anniversary and Hollywood airs.) 

Because no doubt this has gravely hurt d and his spirit. And between c and his parents, i’d think they are doing everything to help him win. All parties on his side have to be petrified. Because even if there’s a positive plan in place, what’s to stop it from changing? Because I reiterate. D was going to come out tied to ACS and it went nightmarishly wrong. And he’s well being and safety are at stake for as long as she is tied to him. (She reiterates God Damnit! She KNOWS she was right!!!!!!! WTAF? No, he wasn’t going to come out. He’s told you he’s straight and there is no reason to suspect he’s lying. I love the comments about his safety as long as Mia is around or his image as long as his team is around-He’s fucking thriving. When is the shit going to hit the fan? He won the top four awards, has his own show on a new platform, has a big Broadway show coming, has a Ryan Murphy Netflix show that he helped co-create, Elsie is amazing, StarKid had a very successful year, his wedding is all over the “top celeb weddings” lists, he was busy AF this year and he just bought a $3 million house. It’s been a decade-when will this bad stuff start? ). 

Anonymous asked: I do fear D is in this for the long haul unfortunately. It has slowed down for her a bit post-nuptials but unless this show with RM is serving as an out, I don’t see how D will ever get out of this. We also need to remember she knows too much too at this point. It’s not that easy to get someone with the amount of info she has to just go away. If she’s intent on riding coattails, there may be little D can do to get rid of her. I hope I’m wrong. I want to see him win. But it doesn’t look good. (What does ccMia know that she can use against him? That would mean he’s done something wrong but according to cc lexicon, it’s all done against him, he’s the victim. If anything he would have dirt on her to use) 

I can’t believe how naive I was to think it was as simple as d&c saying no. I doubt that was ever an option and they learned that, after months of fighting post encagement, in the cruelest manner. Honestly I’m feeling almost more heartbroken today then on feb 16 because I’m finally seeing the horrifying reality of HW.Nonnie. Despite the fact that I don’t trust him, I’m praying that RM saw that it serves his agenda and reputation to help d as it would rehabilitate his character much more than to continue to hurt him, because at this point I think he’s the only person that has the power to get him out. Now we wait and see. (I don’t see how Ryan Murphy can serve as both Mafia boss and his savior but I understand that he’s the only one that could possibly play that role right now. There are no other gay Yoda’s in Darren’s life with enough cloud to be the “savior” so by process of elimination, Ryan is the one). .   ’t see how Ryan Murphy can serve as both Mafia boss and his savior but I understand that he’s the only one that could possibly play that role right now. There are no other gay Yoda’s in Darren’s life with enough cloud to be the “savior” so by process of elimination, Ryan is the one).    

I can’t believe how naive I was to think it was as simple as d&c saying no. I doubt that was ever an option and they learned that, after months of fighting post encagement, in the cruelest manner. Honestly I’m feeling almost more heartbroken today then on feb 16 because I’m finally seeing the horrifying reality of HW. (So basically, the original cc storyline isn’t holding up anymore after the end dates passed for coming out- Glee ended, the 8-year contract expired, Hedwig ended, ACS started, filmed and ended, Awards season came to a finish and now you’re hoping the anniversary is the lucky date.  But you need to explain why Darren and Chris have so much power and still are not together so you’re going for something bigger and more sinister.  The problem is that while Hollywood has a seedy underbelly, you can’t take one person’s story and extrapolates it to everyone. Judy Garland may have been drugged but they didn’t know the effect of drugs back then like we do know and the military gives the pilots “go” and “no go” pills to help them perform to this day under close medical supervision)  

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Not trying to start anything, but I'm wondering how HE breaking up means anything for KH given the fact that the reason HE broke up is bc how violent Elijah is. Klaus has been way more violent towards Hayley & others, so I really don't see it going in that directions especially when the writers specifically said that Elijah's violence/violence towards Hayley was the reason they broke them up

Honestly I’m glad you sent me this anon.

Ever since Friday there has been such a gross oversimplification of Julie’s quote and what happened in the episode floating around so let me address this.

1. Hayley didn’t just break up Elijah because he is violent. She admitted that she is a monster as well, that she has done bad things….the problem is that the violence that Hayley experienced week before last is the fundamental core of who Elijah Mikaelson is. This is an exact quote from the episode where she goes through the red door. This nature is the core of his being, which means that Elijah is almost completely unchangeable. THAT’s the root of the statement Hayley is trying to make by letting him go. Elijah isn’t just violent, he’s violent at his core and he can not be any other way as evidenced by his progressively bad behavior. It started with sending davina to her death, then progressed to killing Marcel his own nephew, both of which she forgave even tho it contradicted things she had previously said about family and friendship. Then it progressed to him thinking about killing children the same age as hope to save Klaus, then it progressed to him actually killing 4 teenage girls on a whim. He also told Marcel he would end him for no other reason besides he felt that Klaus’s love for him was a weakness. Elijah is inherently unhinged, he has nothing there to ground his monster any more since it was only kept in check all this time by Klaus’s monster and Hayley finally realizes this. The violence he has perpetrated against her and other people can no longer be ignored for the sake of a love that she is coming to realize was rooted In fear at a vulnerable time in her life and a broken childhood.

2. The brutality Hayley experienced traumatized Hayley VERY badly. People want to gloss over this because it was in Elijah’s “mind” but she experienced every second of that beating. It wasn’t a dream, it wasn’t a hallucination, it actually happened. She experienced more trauma at his hands than she has ever experienced from a man. He banged her head against a pole repeatedly, terrorized her in the woods as she screamed for help, choked her, hit her, body slammed her, tossed her against a tree like a rag doll, fed from her, and nearly killed her if not for her 7 year old intervening. To sit her and say that anything Klaus has done to her compares to that is just a misrepresentation of the truth. We know Klaus has done bad things to Hayley, the main two being when he choked her in season 1 and cursed her at the end of season 2, but Klaus has never brutalized Hayley in that manner before. Hayley has never experienced the sorta terror she experienced behind the red door at the hands of Klaus.

3. Timing is relevant here. It’s the most relevant thing when dissecting Julie’s quote about it….Elijah JUST brutalized Hayley a week ago, on the TO timeline it’s prolly only been days. She is very correct that if you subject a woman to that type of brutality at the hands of a romantic partner you can not in good conscious continue to lean into that idea that what they have is “love” and that it can just continue on. To have a woman who says repeatedly that even tho she is not perfect she does not want to invite depraved violence into her life and her child’s life just up and gloss over what happened to her with Elijah and what she now knows he’s capable of doing you set a TERRIBLE narrative for a female character. Carina had to explain this over and over again on twitter but Hayley hasn’t been perfect, she’s been selfish, violent, but SHE’S TRYING TO DO BETTER. She wants to do better. To have that be her narrative for the entire season and part of her narrative from the very beginning then have her be brutalized by her romantic partner and just continue on with their love story like it’s nothing would have been a disgrace to everything they have ever established about Hayley as a character and would have displayed a very ugly idea that a man can whoop your ass and then tomorrow it’s no big deal because “love”. She can’t fix him, it’s not her responsibility to do so either, and he’s pretty much unfixable, so what choice did they really have after making Elijah brutalize her. If you’re in that writers room as a woman it’s hard to look at that and say “but they love each other so we can’t tear them apart” at some point you have to love your female character enough to give her some growth and have her stay true to her beliefs as a woman and a parent. That’s what they did with Hayley. After seasons of brushing over the sad root of her affection for Elijah, after making her contradict herself over and over to hold on to this unfulfilling love, it sadly just couldn’t continue after is escalated to her traumatic experience behind the red door.

4. Nothing I’ve mentioned applies to Hayley’s current dynamic with Klaus, and nothing Julie said does either which is why this idea that “well Hayley doesn’t want violence so she can’t want Klaus later either” is laughable. Klaus Mikaelson hasn’t been in a violent situation with Hayley since 3x02, during which he was not her romantic partner. Klaus isn’t a depraved violent man at his core even if he is a monster, it’s actually been established that Klaus has always been much more gentle compared to his other siblings and has hardened over time. I can almost guarantee you that if Klaus was to be trapped in his own mind he wouldn’t find refuge in the darkest most depraved place of his subconscious. His core being is not the same as who Elijah is at his core which is why Klaus actually has the capacity to change and actually has done so. Klaus ahas shown progressive growth as a person over the series ESPECIALLY in his relationship with Hayley. He went from being unable to let her in early on to confiding in her about his turmoil while he was held captive, he went from trying (and failing) to control her giving her the utmost respect and autonomy, he went from believing he needed to bully his way into her life to being her true partner in every sense of the word. Klaus is doing the same thing as Hayley, something Elijah can not/has been unwilling to do which is accept your past but try to do better. Hayley herself has shown appreciation to Klaus this season for doing things that makes hope life less chaotic because she knows is hard he’s been a mess for 1000 years and change is hard for anyone but she sees he loves his daughter, he respects and cares die her, and he’s trying his best to be who she and hope needs him to be. These are two people who have had some rough times with each other, but Hayley has held Klaus accountable for every bad deed he has done towards her, she has challenged him to do better, even went as far as walking away from him when she felt he was a threat to the life she wanted for herself and hope and every time Klaus has rose to the occasion and changed. He has corrected his behavior, he has genuinely felt shame and remorse for all that he has done and has made a concerted effort to not repeat it. Out of the two men on her life right now Klaus is the only one actually doing right by her, he’s the only one there giving her space when she needs it, giving her comfort when she needs it, respecting her desires, and actively working on himself so that they can build the life that they both want for their daughter. If Hayley fell for Klaus it would not be making the same kinda statement that having Hayley stay with with Elijah would have been making. There is no violence between Klaus and Hayley, there is friendship, understanding, trust, partnership, and affection…all of which are absent from her dynamic with Elijah and was already absent even before the beat down.