#and as you can probably tell i'm trying to do actually standard script format
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cto10121 · 10 days ago
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*glares at it* It’ll do, I guess. There are some things I feel still need work, but I am too impatient to smooth them out. I did change one line to be closer to the French, because I wanted to retain that motif of the ~madness RetJ both have when they’re not together. Otherwise, it’s business as usual. I am shocked that I got anything close to right with Juliet’s high notes, but was ultimately defeated by Romeo’s. 🫠 Also, the karaoke track is wonky at parts, no idea why; the two I had were the exact same track and there isn’t another one available. Anyway, hope you enjoy this demonstration of my lyrics, etc.
Song of the Lark (Le chant de l'alouette)
ROMEO JULIET, DAWN’S NEAR THE LARK HAS SUNG, THE SKY’S CLEAR I MUST DEPART OR END HERE MY LOVE, BE STRONG FOR ME
JULIET ROMEO, YOU HEARD WRONG YOU JUST MISTOOK THE NIGHTINGALE’S SONG I FEEL A MADNESS COME BEFORE LONG SO LINGER STILL WITH ME
WITHOUT YOU NEAR WITHOUT YOU HERE HOW CAN I BE?
HOLD ME LOVE ME GIVE ME STRENGTH TILL MORNING UNTIL THE NIGHT’S END UNTIL OUR LIGHT’S END
ROMEO LOVE YOU LOVE YOU ALL OF LIFE, I’LL LOVE YOU YOU NEED ME, SO I’LL STAY I’LL FACE THE GARISH DAY I’D RATHER BRAVE THE FIGHT THAN LIVE WITHOUT YOUR LIGHT
JULIET LOVE, NO! LOVE, GO DON’T LET LIGHT FIND YOU
ROMEO & JULIET LOVE YOU LOVE YOU ALL MY LIFE, I’LL LOVE YOU UNTIL THE NIGHT’S END UNTIL OUR LIGHT’S END
UNTIL THE NIGHT’S END UNTIL OUR LIGHT’S END
ALWAYS…
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whats-she-gonna-post-next · 6 months ago
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So I just finished binding Trust Life by the absolutely amazing @chaiandsage (Hello, I am ready to be perceived now, I hope that I have done your story even the slightest bit of justice) and I just wanted to make a post both showing it off, and going through what I learned doing this bind because I did a few new things here and want to talk about it.
Also I'm not going to subject you all to this, so most everything but the final product here is going to be below the cut.
(Also so sorry that the photos aren't the best. I am... Very bad at photography, lmao)
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Ok, so let's start off with some of the cool things I learned during this bind. Or, maybe not necessarily cool, but they are things I learned and I think that learning is cool!
First off, I learned how to download and add fonts to Microsoft Word, which while not interesting, does open up a whole world of fonts for future binds. Is it a little late in the game to have found this? Probably. But it is what it is. I actually downloaded a pretty good chunk of different ones, but the fonts I actually used were MF Love Dings for the heart motif dividers, which was a new download, and then a few standard fonts - Edwardian Script ITC for the title pages, Baskerville Old Face for the chapter headers, Book Antiqua for the chapter titles, and good old Garamond for the actual text of the novel.
Here is the divider and the title fonts. I just think they are neat.
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Another thing I learned was how to make book cloth! I found these squares of white cotton fabric at a dollar tree and decided to give it a go. The way I did mine was by painting them first (a task in and of itself, and as you can see on the cover, did not turn out super even, but I love them nonetheless) and then I glued down a layer of tissue paper to give it a little stiffness and make it stick to the chipboard easier, it was a super cool process and I look forward to trying it again in the future now that I have done it once and have a better idea of how I can improve in the future
And now onto some of the other cooler parts of the process!
So I had a lot of fun doing the formatting, it's my favourite part of any binding process, I cannot tell you how many fics I have formated that I have yet to print out and actually bind because I enjoy the process so much (the answer is actually 5 that are completely formatted and ready to go, 3 that I am actively in the middle of formatting, 4 projects completed - including this one, which... may technically count as 3, granted 2 of them were gifts for other people - and 3 that I am planning on doing that I haven't gotten to start on yet. Oh, and a 5 part series that I have printed out but haven't actually bound yet. I have a problem, lmao.) As I mentioned, I downloaded a few fonts for this but it just ended up looking so good in the end. Here is what some of the inner formatting looks like (I did just take the screenshots from word, I thought it was easier than getting the pages in the book)
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Something else! This was the first time I actually broke a single fic into multiple parts, and I do not regret it. Each section is fairly large on its own, so it would have been a monster all together. I gave them basically the same title pages and such, just used the main stories summary for all of them and copy pasted everything - work smarter, not harder - and kept the same format for the chapters and such. There were 2 obvious spots (at least imo) for breaking things up, those being at the end of chapter 24, and then again at the end of 57, if you know, you know. However, that made the divide be 24 chapter, 33 chapter, 9 chapters. I was a little worried about how that divide to affect the look of the books, but I was pleasantly surprised how well it worked out. Book 2 there is quite obviously the largest part (it's basically double the length of book 1) but book 3 was surprisingly long for being only 9 chapters and I think they look fairly cohesive together. I didn't realize how long the last nine chapters themselves were. The first and third ones are actually about the same size together as book two, which is pretty cool!
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When it came time to put together the actual books, I stuck with my tried and true french link stitch, as I find it to be a sturdy stitch, and then used green, yellow, and red card stock for the end pages, I felt it thematic.
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I'm super excited to have this as a physical book now, thank again to chaiandsage for allowing me to bind this amazing story and just for writing it in the first place! I read it like twice in the span of a month, and I swear I have read chapter 57 and 58 themselves way too many times to count. Not even going to mention the amount of times I read the last 6 chapters because I just love a good happy ending.
But yeah, I'm really happy how this bind turned out, I still have to put an actual cover in these - which I plan on doing, I have a friend who is going to help me with the cover design when they are free, so there will be an update at some point.
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canmom · 1 year ago
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@metamatar wrote:
I thought srt was pretty uncomplicated this is so depressing
to be fair, if you just want simple, unstyled subs, that's pretty easy - as you say, .srt does the trick.
But if you want to start doing the kinds of fancy formatted subs that you see in anime fansubs, such as colours and 'karaoke' effects where the subs do not appear all at once, then you run into interesting territory. We're not doing songs, but I did want to use the karaoke effect for dramatic impact on a few lines, and we wanted to add a little extra spice by colouring certain words for narrative reasons. (Plus if we do upload songs down the line, I wanna have the karaoke-sub workflow up and running.)
I am kinda joking in the OP; getting well-calibrated colours and a good video encode is way worse and more complicated than the subtitles. But it is at least a standard problem that a lot of people have, and so the solutions exist: you can just kind of use the tools as is, the difficult part is learning the correct workflows.
Anime fansubbers typically use the Advanced Substation Alpha format, which is amusingly given the extension .ass, and can be authored in tools like Aegisub. This has all sorts of little quirks, and the tooling is less nice than you would like - a lot of the elaborate typesetting you might see in anime subs involves a bunch of hacky lua scripts to layer multiple subtiles on top of each other and stuff like that - but it works, you can generally trust that the renderer used by common players like mpv, mpc-hc and vlc will give a consistent output.
When it comes to web, there is no such common standard.
Youtube actually supports pretty complex styled subs, but it makes it really difficult to actually upload them. Youtube's online editor does not support any formatting and in fact it will strip all formatting from styled subs if you make any changes. Instead, you have to upload them in a special, Youtube-only format called YTT. The way to generate this format is to use a third-party script that someone made, which converts ASS subs to YTT. Great, perfect, that's just what we need!
...except the featureset between ASS and YTT doesn't quite overlap, so if you make a nicely styled karaoke line that works in ASS, doing hacky stuff to make sure the outlines and dropshadows look right and make all the different formatting tags play nice together... then you convert it to YTT, upload it to youtube, and it doesn't work at all.
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Here, the karaoke effect failed to trigger (since .ass supports a few different modes for inline karaoke tags, and this one isn't supported by the script), and the doubled-up sub I was using for a drop shadow has appeared on a separate line.
However, there is no .YTT subtitle renderer for mpv. So if you want to test things, all you can do is convert and upload it to Youtube.
Moreover, if you open up the YTT file, it looks like this...
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It's all on one huge lines, there's loads of Unicode character 0x200b, and every sub is duplicated 2-4 times with a bunch of opaque XML tags. I assume the duplication is how it achieves the outline effect.
Probably what I'm going to have to do is manually figure out what all the tags in the YTT format do and edit this in the text editor to work nicely lmao.
So, get all that done, and at least it works right? We can have fancy styled subs just like the big vtubers do. What about Vimeo... ah, Vimeo uses yet another unique subtitle format, called WebVTT, which is at least a standard and not just a format they rolled on their own. According to its documentation, WebVTT also supports a karaoke effect, but... there is no existing converter script that preserves it when converting from ASS so far as I can tell, so I'm probably going to have to edit an existing Python script to make it work. And even then I don't know whether Vimeo actually renders that effect. The only way is to try and see.
Anyway, it's actually not nearly as awful as video encoding for web. Video encoding for web is where artistic dreams go to die on the shores of low bitrates. We've resorted to this ludicrous hack of upscaling the whole video to 4k with lanczos, even though the initial render was only at 1080p, because Youtube was mangling the video at 1080p and increasing resolution is the only way to get a higher bitrate and better codec.
Online streaming video was a mistake lmao. Torrents forever.
mind you if you thought video encoding and colour were bad, don't get me started on subtitles for web
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