#and Jonathan is like no she doesn't but he does manage to convince karen to leave so 🤷♀️
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Does Karen ever get mad that Joyce gets a middle name shout-out with a Jancy daughter and she doesn't?
Hi Nonny,
I don't think so. I think if she is upset she doesn't say anything. But I definitely think that Jonathan for lack of a better word charms Karen out of being mad on more than one occasion.
Plus, she's just so happy to finally have a baby to dress up in matching outfits and spoil that she doesn't really care.
#i just KNOW karen overstays her welcome after Jordan is born and Nancy is like if you love me you'll find a way to get rid of my mother#nancy is convinced karen listens to Jonathan more#and Jonathan is like no she doesn't but he does manage to convince karen to leave so 🤷♀️#also I did go back and forth if Dylan would be Dylan Karen or not before deciding I liked Dylan Elizabeth more#and the background lore is that Nancy is the one who insists on Joyce as the middle name because she loves her mother in law#sorry this is so much#i think about them a lot#jancy#jonathan byers#nancy wheeler#my ocs#st headcanons#anon ask
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