#also yeah i agree with OP bc 1. every single person on my mom's side has belly fat no matter how skinny you are

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I generally agree with OP, but I'd like to highlight a few points:

Most of the studies OP has linked are anywhere from a decade to almost 15 years old. Generally, this means that the data may not be super reliable for the general population in the present (2023), since methodology may have changed, new studies on the subject may be added, populations may change, etc. Basically-take the claims therein with a grain of salt.

The study looking at if exercise led to weight loss in Type II diabetics noted a significant decrease in visceral fat (the fat around your organs, feels hard like a drum) with exercise than without. Visceral fat, not subcutaneous fat (the softer fat closer to the skin) is what is more concerning medically, as it is associated with metabolic diseases like Type II diabetes. Whether visceral fat is the cause of these diseases or a symptom of it is currently up for debate, though. From what I have read so far on PubMed, inflammation within the fatty tissue is more indicative of problems than the actual fat itself.

The study looking at if exercise led to weight loss in non-alcoholic fatty liver disease (NAFLD) says that the data they found was so biased/sparse that most of the analyses they sought to do were essentially impossible, so we can't really say if exercise impacts weight at all in this group.

The study on computer interventions and weight loss in overweight/obese people was also extremely sparse on data, focused primarily on women, and found that in person interventions were generally more effective at weight loss than computer based ones. However, both are not going to lead to immense weight loss, at least not within a year or two. This is something that the other studies OP linked also found.

TL:DR Most of the claims OP made are verifiable, but take them with a grain of salt since the studies are old and many have unreliable data sources. Exercise may reduce visceral fat in Type II diabetics, but not necessarily overall body weight. We can't really say if exercise does anything to body weight in people with NAFLD.

If you're going to exercise, do it for general health reasons, not for weight loss.

Me: Exercise does not cause weight loss. This is a fact that has been demonstrated so robustly in research that even doctors, who hate and fear evidence, are grudgingly starting to admit this.

Someone reading that post: Cool, but have you considered that exercise leads to weight loss?

Me: I am going to eat you