#also while we're on the topic of missing animatronics

[ntls-24722]

also on the topic on why I hate their endos:

DJ MUSIC MAN, MUSIC MAN, THE WINDUPS, THE ENTIRE LINEAGE, THE ANCESTRY, have NO moving parts other than their mouth. and that's not even a jaw we're talking about, they're just big big teethplates.

The endos in fnaf are inaccurate to actual animatronic endoskeletons, but i could forgive that, because scott's a game developer and not a CEC/RAFE engineer and he understood what they were for. they're minimalistic and don't look anything like the actual face, they're JUST supposed to provide the moving parts and SOMETHING for the casing to sit on, and that's all.

SO WHY DO WE HAVE ALL THAT

WE DONT NEED ALL THAT. That's all SOLID, HEAVY-ASS, PROBABLY EXPENSIVE ASS metal. and there's 394 OF THE FUCKERS. and it's offmodel to fnaf? And honestly, at first thought i could forgive it on music man, The Notoriously Offmodel and Strange animatronic, but that's not the reason why, because they did it to Roxy, too? For NO reason????? Yes, there's the moment where Cassie Wrenches her eyesocket but that could've been done literally anywhere else.

Like. Why. EsPECIALLY on roxy. music man's endo would've been weird to make but roxy literally had one. Why make a whole new endoskeleton model???? for what reason????????

THIS render was made by stripping off the casing and showing all that was underneath and obviously it's missing some crucial stuff like cameras and something for the head casing to assumably sit on, but. the bare-bones-ness makes me feel like this is, somehow, more accurate? We don't actually see casing below the windup's casing and... yeah. The mouth is all that moves on the face, so that's all you really need.

though I can attest to the cameras underneath the casing in DJ's case because while gazing into the soulless pitch black eyes of our collective big beautiful husband

i spotted these

so we at least have that. But STILL

sorry i just remembered this as i went hunting for dumbass dj images

people thought this mf was djmm?????

they share no similarities other than huge. the arms are different (way too much detail), djmmhas no eyelids. he has no colored eyes. he has 6 arms. his body is like an egg. his face is cartoonishly wide and is PUGLIKE in flatness. he doesnt have a snout. The only thing that I could say is that they have a similarly colored mouth. But that's because everything Ruin is purple

and its not like it's like, "OHHHH it COULD be him, we just don't know, we've never seen his endo," NO WE DO KNOW. we at least know for damn sure what his face would look like.

I cannot EXPRESS my hatred for the route steel wool went with the music man endo + Roxy's endo (why does it look nothing like the actual endos. whats their purpose then), but. this is what it would look like. doioioing

anyways, dumbass dj image for u

[bacon-sandwich-of-dionysus]

Mandela Catalogue and the horror of not knowing 'why'

I'm gonna preface this by saying I impulsively scrawled this down on a whim- this is clumsy and prolly full of grammar mistakes. Sorry about that :/

I honestly have never encountered an analogue horror series that had an impact on me like Mandela Catalogue.

I'm a bit of an avid horror fan, so I am a little desensitised to the tropes, the scares and the stories. I think horror is actually quite a hard genre to write because it's very easy to fall into the formulaic way of doing things and also difficult to create a compelling story with the right amount of twists and turns, plus you're doing all this while also trying to actually scare people. Horror always seeks to make impact and because it's frantically firing rounds here, there and everywhere, it's really hard to hit the target.

This is where the Mandela Catalogue comes in... but I'll take a quick side to talk about another horror franchise so we can get a better idea of what the hell I'm getting at lol.

When the first FNAF game came out, I was enthralled by the horrific idea of dead children haunting animatronic suits, aimlessly wandering about in hopes of getting their revenge on their killer. The subject of the Purple Guy was such a massive topic way back when, that it was hard to avoid the character. Best of all though, it was hard to work out why he did it. Why did he commit such a heinous crime? What was he getting out of it? We didn't even know his name, let alone his personality, his reasoning or his face.

The mystery of 'why' was the biggest piece missing from the puzzle, teasing us at what we didn't know. And to add salt to the wound, what we didn't know outweighed what we did. 'Why were things they way they were? Why did the Purple Guy do what he did?' was what certainly frightened me back then.

An unanswered question is something I'll always find more terrifying. As humans, I think we're constantly wanting to rationalise everything- it's just who we are, we like explaining things away. So when someone or something commits an action out of the norm with no particular explanation, it frightens us.

'Why' is what made FNAF scary. And explaining that 'why' so elaborately has taken some of that horror away. Now, I'm still invested in FNAF and will always be happy to engage with new instalments, works and whatnot, but unfortunately, I'm not enjoying it as much as I used to because things have become so convoluted and entwined. Putting names to faces, family troubles and sci-fi concepts like Remnant, have kind of taken that grounded-horror-feel away from the original franchise. Now, that's not to say FNAF is a shadow of its former self, I just personally am not as into it as I once was, and I think that's because of the lack of mystery. I'm no longer asking 'why'. I'm more of just staring at the screen with knitted eyebrows as I wonder how the hell Fazbear Entertainment hasn't gone under already at this rate of innumerable scandals attributed to its name... maybe that company is just as stubborn as Afton, who knows.

Mandela Catalogue on the other hand, has exploited our fear of the unknown excellently. I am genuinely terrified of the main antagonist of this series, a.k.a Satan (though it is up for debate as to whether he is Satan, an alien or even fallen Gabriel but I'll be going along the lines that he's the devil).

Satan has always been a fascinating concept to me, partly because I've always been intrigued by the idea of something so ungodly even its own creator isn't really sure what to do with him, but also because we don't really know his whole story. Satan is hardly mentioned in the Bible, he's kind of elaborated on in other scriptures but again, not much is known about him other than that he's the bad guy and he's not gonna win in the end because no one can withstand the might of God.

Mandela Catalogue, uses that fear of unequivocal evil compounded with mystery to make Satan terrifying. What I love about the series is we don't see much of Satan and we don't know why the fuck he's doing what he's doing.

All we know us that he's executing his plan and we're bearing the brunt of it. And that's frightening on an existential level.

He knows what's going on, he's doing whatever he's doing, he knows why he's doing it and we don't.

That's how you do horror like this. You don't tell your audience 'why'.

Now, we can try to give some reasoning, using reference to previous depictions of Satan and also the Bible itself to suggest that maybe he's taking revenge on God, or maybe that he wants to be God, or that perhaps he's jealous that Jesus is the new favourite and lashing out at him, but we can't definitively take these reasons as gospel (pardon the pun :P).

That's what's so scary, we don't know why, we can't explain this and because we can't explain this... we can't predict, we can't prepare and we can't understand.

Mandela Catalogue exploits our need for reason to create a villain so terrifying that he hardly ever needs to show up- we can just behold his work and dread.

[elecman108]

Theory time for FNAF, so if you’re not interested, I’ll stick it under a read more.

Also, fair warning, I have a lot of spoilers for FNAF VR in here, so... Be warned or be jumpscared, I guess?

I’ve been going through some of the older FNAF games now that FNAF VR is out and people are going through it (I mean, I can’t play it yet as I don’t have a VR setup, but... whatever). One thing I noticed there was, or in this case wasn’t, were a couple animatronics. Namely, I noticed that Ballora from Sister Location, all the Nightmares save for NightMarionne, Nightmare Fredbear, and Nightmare BB (but he’s non-canon), and Golden Freddy. Well, and the Rockstars, the Obscure Side-Characters, and Lefty/Scraptrap/Molten Freddy from Simulator and UCN.

Which got me thinking, why aren’t they in the game?

Obviously, for the nightmares, it’s in the name. They’re nightmares. Which brings up a whole other question of why some of them ARE in the game, but... whatever, let’s ignore that. And Plushtrap I’m writing off as some sort of finger trap plush toy thing as was mentioned in FNAF4 with that “Spring Bonnie” doodad.

The Rockstars seem less like, main-stage, so they wouldn’t BE in the game. Same thing with the Obscure Side Characters. And with Dee Dee, I’m presuming it’s a non-canon thing. Jack-O-Chica/Bonnie also would be non-canon.

But then there’s Ballora and Golden Freddy. I could write off Golden Freddy as a phantom or nightmare, but then... The phantoms are all there. So are some of the nightmares. Ballora, despite going after the player in UCN, doesn’t seem... I don’t know, as “animalistic” as Marionette would say, as the others, so I figure she’s not in because she’s an outlier.

But Golden Freddy seems odd.

I mean, he’s in the first game, initially assumed to be Phone Guy stuffed into a Fazbear suit. And lo and behold, Phone Guy does still get stuffed. But he crashes the game, so in a VR realm, it’s... not great to have a game crash on you.

He’s also in the second game, more like a phantom like Shadow Bonnie and Shadow Freddy, but... He doesn’t crash the game in this one, so he could be in there.

But he’s not. So I started digging around in the old games to figure out what might tie him to something that the VR developers in-game wouldn’t want to have found out, since Afton is in the game presumably as Glitchtrap, and Scott (or some other in-universe indie game developer) added him in, presumably, in prior games they made. So why isn’t Golden Freddy there?

And then I realized, well... sort of stumbled across it by accident. Ultimate Custom Night and FNAF 2 share some information that might be important to this. One, in FNAF 2 Give Gifts Give Life death minigame, a fifth corpse appears before Golden Freddy appears and jumpscares the player, not allowing the Puppet to put a gift and a new life on it. In UCN, there’s many mentions in death-lines of “The one you should not have killed”.

Theory: Golden Freddy was stuffed with the one you (Afton, I guess) should not have killed. Which is why he’s absent in VR, because the company doesn’t care about any of the other murders. This one, however, is different. It’s the one he shouldn’t have done. So they’re trying to shove Golden Freddy into the closet of skeletons in some back room of some Fazbear location.

I mean, the whole theory falls apart if we know which one is the one they should not have killed. I mean, Jeremy appears in FNAF 2 as a guard, vanishes for Night 7, is presumed to be the bite victim, but then there’s another Jeremy in FNAF VR in the dev team with Tape Girl, and it’s guessed (well, by me mostly) that the ink on him might be blood, not ink. So it might be Jeremy as the one that shouldn’t have been killed. But then it’s assumed VR takes place long after the other FNAF games when the company’s trying to save face after presumably trying to rid themselves of Afton in Simulator and putting him into UCN which means Jeremy, if he’s the bite victim, is already long dead or severely inhibited to the point he wouldn’t be on a VR dev team-

Or maybe it’s just another guy named Jeremy? I mean, I don’t know how common a name is. And I feel like Scott wouldn’t give two different characters the same name. Well... Animatronics aside, they’re in sort of categories, like the Freddy Animatronics that all share the Freddy name. And from a solid story-telling standpoint, the only reason you’d have two people with the same name exactly is if you wanted to call attention to the fact they were the same person, or if they had one same name (Michael Afton and William Afton, for example) that they are related. Then where did Michael go? Unless he “died” in Simulator as the guy running his own Fazbear Location and such, he just sort of... vanishes.

...

Yeah. Everything falls apart if you squint too hard at it. We might still not have all the pieces. And we may never have all the pieces.

Either way, I think it’s an interesting theory.

TL;DR: I think Golden Freddy is the “one [Afton] should not have killed”, as mentioned in UCN, which is why he’s missing from VR.

Or maybe I’m overthinking things. Regardless, I’m still confused as to where Ballora is. Like, she’s nothing special to any major story points... or is she...? No, I’m probably overthinking things. But, in any case, the “one you should not have killed” also could apply to her, especially since she acts differently after killing you in UCN. She might be “different” because she was an accidental death or one that shouldn’t have been killed. Who knows? After all, it’s just a theory.