#also please don't misread my tone this is not something I'm actually angry or upset at anyone over.this is not a molehill I stake my life o
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doggiedyke · 3 months ago
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Gang it's literally cheese. We took cheese, put it in a blender, added sodium citrate so that it gets nice and smooth and creamy. That's all that American cheese is.
the thing about that weird stuff americans call cheese is that if you heat it a little it becomes an excellent burger condiment despite its failings in every other area. such is the fate of the american cultural product
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void-dreaming · 1 year ago
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firstly after rereading your post i think i at least 85% agree with the core point. or what i'm assuming the point was: that if you see a post with an opposing opinion that makes you upset, just keep scrolling- don't be rude about it
however, I think the phrasing of your susie post might have made it unintentionally come across as a little passive-aggressive or rude, so this is just some critique on how these sorts of posts can be phrased in a way that may better avoid conflict.
i think it's important to keep in mind just how you find those interpretations to go against canon they may think the same about yours, specific lines that people use as 'proof' of their interpretation can be the same used as 'proof' for another.
there's a stigma in fandom of 'fanon' stuff being 'mischaracterization' aka 'bad writing' so the word 'interpretation' in this context can be associated with that: like to refer to only the idea being argued against as an 'interpretation' has been used as a slightly 'nicer' (in the passive aggressive way) of saying 'the wrong, incorrect, bad, interpretation" and puts the idea argued in favor of as the 'correct, smart, interpretation' placed on this pedestal of 'canon'
so the very well intentioned and seemingly straightforward statement that "it's perfectly fine to have your own interpretation" unfortunately could be misread as putting down someone's interpretation and any creative works they've made that uses it
this could be avoided by also acknowledging the idea in favor of as an 'interpretation' as well, or by at least addressing the argument soft the interpretation your opposing
i think a better way of phrasing things if you don't intend to come across as passive-aggressive or negative is to start by speaking in favor of instead of in opposition of: instead of "I dislike portrayal of character as x. " you could approach with "i like portrayal of character as y." approaching a discussion with a negative statement is a lot more likely to upset people and approaching a discussion with a postive statement makes the overall discussion more, well, positive and constructive
i think it's also notable to try and keep the distinction between a 'bad character' as in a villain and a 'bad character' as in poorly written. or if you think a redemption arc is poorly written than like, some people depicting a character as redeemed likely might even agree with that -and like depicting the character as redeemed because they think the redemption had a lot of potential they want to expand on. I think in the case of Susie people find a susie redemption more intresting and having more potential than the opposite.
and of course its all for fun, this is all about silly viddy games. personally i'm a big fan of depicting villain characters and sympathetic uwu bbys one day and terribly cruel people the next. the ideas can coexist in a fandom space and I think that's probably actually more aligned with what your post was trying to say. but the diction and lack of clear tone used made it a lot less clear to decipher.
anyway want to make it clear that I have no intents of coming across as passive-agressive: i myself struggle a lot with phrasing my thoughts which is really frustrating and these are things that have helped me to better communicate online fndjad
have a good day :3
Oh man, I really hope I haven't been coming across is angry or upset, that's just an unfortunate part of how I type, I'm trying to teach myself to tone it down plustalkingingenwralisnervewrackingforme
And yeah, looking back, my post is definitely a bit more aggressive than it needs to be, I'll probably rewrite it once I unwind later tonight, this year's birthday is very hectic, but that's no excuse for writing so aggressively x,D it also doesn't help that I'm not used to just making all text posts
It feels like something that occurs so frequently, it's hard to remove that "again with this crap?" feeling when bringing it up, but that's more of a me problem, and my own struggles to seperate my emotions from my work, I'm a very sensitive person, even on my best days. I,D
I don't think I've seen a full proper Susie redemption anywhere actually (although I'm sure it exists, and I would like to see it uu), who knows, maybe I'll tackle that in Zero Termina!
I think my biggest issue is that I try way too hard to compensate for myself, so I ramble and lose the message. I really wasn't trying to be harsh or rude, just immediately lost the initial message thinking I wasn't doing a proper job of explaining my stance. I probably could've just left it at the title and the message would be clear.
And yeah, I was passive aggressive in the tags, when that undermined the tone of the post itself, like I said, it's something that happens often enough that it's hard to address it without gnashing my teeth, but yeah, I definitely shouldn't undermine my own tone.
Plus, I'll admit I am petty, but I'm not usually brazen about it, and I definitely need to work on that, cause it really wasn't worth being so petty x,D
I appreciate the feedback, and I hope you have a good day as well, I'll do my best to do better! :>
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