#also it's canon that a LOT of people throughout history were manipulated by bill

[azelmaandeponine]

"A normal person never would have fallen for Bill's manipulation"

Can this fandom stop victim blaming Ford for FIVE SECONDS?!?!?!

[mychapel-004]

watching people fight over how canon the book of bill is while completely mischaracterising bill is such a strange experience

yes he’s a liar. yes he’s a manipulator. yes he is so distant from any semblance of humanity that he is literally incapable of regret, empathy or remorse, or at least admitting to himself that he feels it.

but he’s also TERRIBLE at it. he’s a total loser. he’s objectively bad at the one task he’s spent lifetimes on. throughout history he attempts to sweet talk many, many different figures into building his portal and it rarely goes down well. multiple civilisations are aware of his existence and the sole reason we know this is because they hated him and invented their own ways of keeping him out. he has been consistently rejected by humanity at every turn, only coming close to completing his goal when he literally possessed a dead man and formed a cult.

ford is the only person who really, truly fell for the act. not just that, but bill didn’t even have to pretend to physically be someone else to get him hooked. ford took him as he was.

all this to say, bill is absolutely a grifter who will say anything to get what he wants, which means a lot of BOB is just sweet talk, carrot and stick, he’s just saying what the reader wants to hear. but that’s not the important bit.

bill is a liar but he wraps the truth up in layers of misdirection, doublespeak and lies. a monster really did destroy his homeworld. him and ford really were going to change the world. he even addresses this in the book, he lies until it becomes the truth. a lot of bill’s characterisation is shown in the gaps between his lies, it’s all in the fault lines, in a similar way to stan. he’s a very meta character, but ultimately he’s still a character and he still behaves in ways that are designed to convey meanings to the audience.

of course he’s lying in the book of bill, but he’s also telling the truth, in addition to bits of info from other sources that he is unable to edit like the theraprism section. it’s fun to have a character who lies a lot, but it would be a pointless exercise to have an entire book be non-canon and false, especially when we get much more interesting character work from the parts where he runs out of lies and his only options are desperate truths.

anyway. people wanting to enjoy canon info in a canon book isn’t just them “being easily manipulated” or stupid, and you aren’t a better fan for not believing it

[painfulbass]

☾ ˚⊹  ❛❛  GENERAL QUICK CROSSOVER GUIDE

So crossovers are usually difficult for a lot of people. So, because I tend to think about these things, I thought I would make this comprehensive list/guide to writing crossovers with me. This isn’t anything in concrete, but to get the ball rolling or to help make it easier for both sides to contribute to plotting. It can be hard when you don’t know the fandom.

FNF, or Friday Night Funkin’ is a rhythm based game around rap battles. The Protagonist (known as BF) is trying to prove himself and win over his Girlfriend’s (GF) Dad, and it spirals from there. Gameplay style, it is very similar to Dance Dance Revolution, and the music is a fast pasted dubstyle/chiptune soundtrack.

What a lot of people know FNF for, however is the Mods. Due to it being on Newgrounds, and the creators having it be open asset, many creators are able to make their own “weeks” for players to challenge their skills in. Ruv, and those within Mid Fight Masses, are one of those mods. You can find most of their lore scattered in the scenes of their week, or by going on their official FNF Wiki.

Now, what does this mean for crossovers? I put it under a read more, simply because this is going to be a lot. I’m going to explain crossover verses I have. How I make them, and how YOU could have your character be in the FNF verse quite easily. So go under the read more to continue reading.

☾ ˚⊹  ❛❛  RUV IN OTHER UNIVERSES

Here are some just ideas that I came up with. While not EVERY interaction will work with these, they are ideas. They’re meant to kick start ideas and inspirations. I do not consider these full verses until I’ve talked with the other mun to make sure that they are okay with it. These can easily be changed, and swapped out for different things. My main goal here is to try and keep Ruv down to his core elements while fitting into a new setting.

POKEMON- Ruv, along with Sarv run the church- which she has turned into a sanctuary and a Nursery. Much like in Canon, Sarv is supernatural, and Ruv as a run away criminal vowed his life for all eternity to protect her. With church’s going out however, the next next step would be a PokeNursery.           Ruv acts as protector of the Nursery from trainers and groups alike. He usually is seen sitting on the roof, throwing pebbles at kids or passerby’s who irk him in some way. You can always find his Onix, his Low-Key Toxtricity, and his Absol around him or the nursery at all times. He does still have his strength, speed, and other abilities. The “face” he has is also a mask- an attempt to hide his identity as the wanted criminal.

OWL HOUSE- Ruv was a wanted criminal for the longest time. His magic, due to where he was born was a lot less like those around him. He could fit into the covens, but anything he did reflected back on him. Living alone, and learning to just modify himself he became a wanted criminal with a bone breaking shout.            However all of those times soon came to a stop as he met the winged mistress he stays with now. Protecting her (though she is much more than capable of protecting himself) she runs one of the many sects in the area. It isn’t the best building, but it’s out of the way and he usually isn’t spotted. However, unfortunately his past comes back to haunt him. He has no choice, and begrudgingly assists the Guards to repay for his crimes.           Tied to Sarv through magical bonds, he has made it clear to those in charge and to her- should something come between his duty as a guard or her, he would chose her a million times over.

DUCKTALES- Ruv is the petrified remains of the guardian of St. Sarvente. Awoken as the earth was shifted off of it’s orbit and forced into something it’s not, the callous guard is in search of the one he calls Sarvente, whom he claims is the Ruler of Souls and the one he Vowed to Protect. He is, 100% made of stone.

TOONTOWN- Stickfigures aren’t uncommon drawings. One’s as complicated as he and Sarv though usually get a few eyes. Not only that, but video game characters are always treated differently in Toontown. Maybe it’s because of a developers history, or lack there of. The story of Ruvyzvat being a heartless killer however spreads like wild flower, and while he and Sarv will primarily stay at the church... sometimes curiosity becomes too much.

KINGDOM HEARTS- FNF is it’s own world. Keyblade turned into a microphone, Ruv & Sarv are some of the first that would be met. Despite their challenge, they are rather distanced from the troubles of the Darkness and Light and would be semi-good companions. 

THE BLACKOUT CLUB- Ruv is a 16. Any day will be the day that a voice will end up taking over, merging with his mind. That’s fine. Much like how Seed-The-Grudge would want, he’ll just get revenge.

HAZBIN HOTEL / HELLUVA BOSS- Ruv ironically enough is one of the few in Hell who does not make him dead. In fact, in some cases that can make him extremely rare. This crossover he IS able to accompany Sarvente into the Underworld, and follow her on her treks through it. While most assume he is a dead sinner, he usually just doesn’t answer. However something about being here and meeting those who reside within the land sets him off. He’s a tad more feral, and a tad more willing to go to the violent answer.

PORTAL- Violence core. What else is there to say? Alternatively, him being a test subject would be fascinating, especially if he was grabbed post-vow. The man is immortal, and therefore would have messed with the tests just by the fact that there is only way for him to die. Death isn’t the worst thing to happen to a man however, and he does still feel pain.

RWBY- Ruv has the ability to manipulate sound waves, specifically his own). Trained with great strength and and even greater speed, his form of combat is continuously dodging as he looks for a weak spot. Weapons of choice are shot gun snow boots, and his sickle that doubles as a short sword.

DOCTOR WHO- Sarv has the ability to create portals. While they are MEANT to be used to intergalactive travel, but instead parallel world travel that in of itself is monumental for a lot of DW plots. Ruv and Sarv can easily go from one universe to the next, however chose to stay in the church. Not to mention Ruv’s skills in target elimination and his abilities would make for some individuals to repurpose him into a weapon. While they have been approached by UNIT on several occasions, they always refuse. However, enough time has passed that they’re starting to notice that the couple in the church aren’t aging...

FNAF- RUVYZVAT and SARVENTE were creations of Fazbear Entertainments as karaoke machines... if we want to go the robot route. If we want to go the normal person route, Ruv was hired by Fazbear’s because it’s one of the few places that doesn’t do a background check, and when he said he wanted to wear a mask as part of the work outfit they were all for it. He runs the karaoke machine though. Stays away from quite literally everyone. While he isn’t the infamous killer of children here, he does have a reputation of his own that he is running from, and that does tend to make him silent.

BATIM- Criminal on the run stumbles into the wastelands formerly known as Bendy’s. Actually enjoys it at first because the cartoon was popular when he was a child. ALT. Stickman drawing of one of the artists come to life. Usually pretends to be Lost One, but when he’s alone with another (Sarvente) they turn into their stickman version selves. Has the ability to jump between 2 and 3 dimensions, but none of the strength or voice.

PSYCHONAUTS- Agent Ruvyzvat, Russian sector. Ruv is working for the Psychonauts in some weird, turning event. Mainly because the sole woman that he trusts and saved his life, Agent Sarvente brought him in. The two are inseparable, and despite Sasha and Nein being infamous for their clinginess, these two take it to a whole knew level. Ruve’s “loud voice” is actually a psychic ability he can use outside of the mind to jumble and confuse thoughts and has no damage on anything physically in the present.

GRAVITY FALLS- Sarvente is a Demon, much like Bill. Where sa Bill desires nothing but chaos and madness, Sarvente is trying her best to keep the world like it is and preserve it’s beauty. Seeing such beauty in a runaway criminal, she and he run to the forests of Oregon. Throughout Weirdmageddon, neither managed to be captured or turned to stone, however Ruv seemingly gained his incredible voice abilities. Now, they live in a semi-collapsed church out in the forest. Sarvente always asking those who come her way to join their church, Ruv is suspicious why such events would happen in such a small town, and is distrusting of most everyone he sees.

DETECTIVE CONAN / KAITOU KID / ANY ANIME OR SERIES LIKE THAT- VERY infamous criminal. Take his “Wanted Dead or Alive” that exists in all other verses, and ramp that up quite a bit. Usually wears a mask whenever he is committing a crime. He does seem to be in it for the fun, though it’s hard to tell with the stoic and expressionless looks. That being said, he does seem to have a very clear goal of what he wants. There are no patterns to where he hits, or what he takes. From wallets of people off the streets, to priceless artifacts. He’ll find where Sarvente went, and how they were able to change her mind in such a way.... how they could corrupt her.

MODERN / NON-EXTREMELY FANTASTICAL- Ruv is honestly a rather down to Earth individual, in some terms. He is untrusting of EVERYTHING, but also due to his own strengths finds little that fear or challenges him. Keep him mind he did make a deal with Lucifer (or his Lucifer) for Immortality for protecting her. While he will always be doing things on his own, a lot of his end goals and motives will come back to her. Without her involvement, he is a walking, talking, machine of destruction with no sway on which side he decides to tear apart.

☾ ˚⊹  ❛❛  GENERAL STOPPING POINTS FOR WANTING TO PLOT

DON’T KNOW THE WORLD YOU’RE FROM / YOU DON’T KNOW MY LORE. - That’s fine. I can get my hands dirty. I can research. In fact I usually would love nothing more to. I love learning about new fandoms, or new media to get into. You shouldn’t be afraid of that. As for mine- It should take someone less than an hour to get through all of the links I have posted in the RESOURCES tab in my bio. I’ve timed it. So if you have an hour to spare, or 15, or just enough time to read his wiki that’s fine. He’s not from a long running show, or anything like that. You can catch up extremely quick.

WELL WHAT ABOUT A BOOK/COMIC? HOW WOULD HE FIT IN?- If we are talking about Super Hero comics, then it depends. 90% of the time I will just play up his wanted status a lot more, and make it more of a reason for an interaction. You just ran into a man who has killed hundreds. If your muse is a super hero, or a vigilante? Would you let him go? What a villain? That might make a good partner.

TV SHOW? LIVE ACTION?- Again, it depends on the type of show. Superhero follows the same above. If it’s investigative, have him be a witness. Or a falsely accused man who can prove he isn’t the guilty party. Is it more supernatural- well he did make a deal with Lucifer and is an immortal now from it. There are a million ways to spin it. Don’t look at making him a big character. Quite honestly, side characters that you pass in the street have just as much backstory, and as long as there is a plausible chance of interactions then we can work it out from there.

☾ ˚⊹  ❛❛  GENERAL IDEAS TO BE AWARE OF THAT MIGHT HELP

HE IS A WANTED CRIMINAL.- Meaning his name Ruvyzvat is known. Despite his crimes going on for decades, he is on the run and never stopped. Several city, state, countries, and possibly nations are looking for him, and looking to take him in.

HE IS ALSO AN IMMORTAL.- While he hasn’t been around forever, and nearly not as long as Sarvente has been, he HAS been around for at least 100 years, give or take some. He can be injured, but even fatal injuries heal in an almost Deadpool like way.

HE ALSO HAS SUPERNATURAL POWERS.- His speed and reflexes alone is not something to be taken lightly. He does train and fight with Lucifer on what used to be a semi-regular basis. He has moved and adapted to be able to make sure no one but the singular person he trusts is able to lay a hand on him. That isn’t to say you can’t catch him off guard. You also have his inhuman strength to worry about, but most of all his voice. His voice which could completely demolish a building, and that isn’t the full strength. He has an amazing control over it, but that certainly isn’t a trait of his to ignore.

HE IS NOT ALWAYS IN THE CHURCH. I MADE SURE OF THAT WHEN I MADE MY BLOG.- He goes on walks, and he goes on errands. He also goes to the Gym on occasion, though not as often. He enjoys walks on the beach far earlier than anyone should be awake at. What I’m saying is running into him OUTSIDE of the church is possible. That being said, meeting him IN the church is your best bet for him warming up quicker. He feels safer in the church, and therefore usually wishes to stay there.

DOESN’T FIT THE STYLE OF CHARACTERS/WORLD? - If he doesn’t fit, then I can work to adapt him into something that WOULD fit. What characteristics about him doesn’t work. This is when I would need plotting help. If, lets say it was an all animal world, we can talk about what he is, his traits, and other such things. I am always happy to not use my icons- I just like to because I think they’re neat and I worked hard on them.

WHAT WOULD HE BE DOING?- Any number of things. He likes throwing pebbles at people. He mainly guards and protects Sarvente and her things, but I know we’re talking besides this. He cannot cook, but he does actually sew, and he does read quite a bit. Working on his fist to fist fighting would be a big one. He likes secluded areas, which especially work for explorer’s and people who walk off the beaten path.

IS THERE ANYWHERE HE COULDN’T BE?- He wouldn’t be at a bar. Ruv doesn’t drink, at all. I also don’t see him at any parties unless Sarv dragged him to them. Writing starters or plotting around those are perfectly fine, but do not expect his muse to be comfortable while he’s there.

HE SEEMS OVERPOWERED.- At times, he certainly can be, but only when he feels it’s necessary. He doesn’t flaunt his abilities, and most he has are out of self preservation. If you as a mun are worried about him and what he can do, the best thing you can do is read my information, look into his wiki, and then come and talk to me. Ruv isn’t someone who will 100% abuse what abilities he has, especially since now he is trying his best to be better for her since it makes her happy.

☾ ˚⊹  ❛❛  GENERAL IDEAS TO HAVE YOUR CHARACTERS IN HIS UNIVERSE

LOCATIONS?- The Church, the back alleys, the karaoke bar (that primarily does rap battles), the Alternate dimension that Sarv made so that he can be loud and not retrain his voice.

MOTIVATIONS?- If your muse is in the FNF world, then be ready for some sick beats to be dropped. Your muse could be rescuing someone from the BBEG and going through the slew of minions to sing against. There’s always the alternative side of this of “what the hell is going on?”

MY CHARACTER ISN’T FROM THERE, SO THEY WOULDN’T FIT IN.- Well I do have a “main” verse which replaces raps with fists. Looking for someone important to them, in the search of a deep and hidden artifact within the search, the rumors of a man born 100 years ago- theres a lot to be found in the library if you looked.

WHAT DOES THE FNF WORLD CONSIST OF?- It consists of Demon Daddies, Singing Skeletons and Pumpkins, Tankmen, a Demonic Lemon Demon, Sentient Video Game Characters, and if you take the mods in you also have Demon, Angels, Ghosts, Deadly Ex’s, Bomb Headed Men-- I promise your character will fit in at the end of the day.

ISN’T HE EXTREMELY AGGRESSIVE AND HARD TO TALK TO?- He can be. He talks in very short sentences, however I do my best to give my reply enough that you can reply to. Actions, and I chose to be very descriptive with his expressions in this case. Ruv spend many years alone, and sometimes with him, actions speak louder than words. When you or your muse figure that out is up to you.

WELL WE CAN’T DO AN ENTIRE THREAD IN A CHURCH.- I never said we had to. He is more than happy to leave the church should he want, and should there be a reason. Usually, (despite what it seems) he does like helping people, so you can lure him out that way ;)

[ixnova]

That last episode of AHKJ: Exiled was really awesome and cool, but it’s also left me with a few more questions that go unanswered so now i’m just kinda sitting here pondering it all like

Anyway if any of my followers want to hear me ramble on about the fucking lemurs from one of  Madagascar’s spin off show click that read more link.

Okay so like one thing that’s developed into a theory early on for me is that I’m pretty fucking sure King Julien is a Demigod. Let me explain why. So like I know cartoon logic is a thing and all but throughout the show Julien relies a lot on luck, he does posses a niche skill set and is able to fight, but he does so rarely. Most of his antics, is pure luck. He’s more lucky than any other character in the show though, I know he’s the main character and all but like, there’s something off about his levels of luck. Furthermore he seems to be aware of his luck, as he often doesn’t worry too much about danger, leaving it up to “the sky gods” and “Frank” to decide his fate. Given the show up until this point I’m going to have to side with him that yeah, he really doesn’t have to worry. Now he mostly can’t just sit still and be fine, he does have to at least dodge and be active, (of which. KJ is very agile and i’d add that to his list of skill sets, though he is a lemur so it’s a given he’s able to duck and weave around a lot of obstacles with ease) but for the most part as long as he’s trying to save his own skin or help others he’s going to be okay because yes, he is apparently blessed by the sky gods. The main reason why I believe he is a Demigod is because he has been chosen by the sky gods to be the new king to replace the previous King Julien (Whom was Current Julien’s uncle so to avoid confusion the show, and I, will use “Uncle KJ” when talking about him.) The history of the Julien Kings have proven that all of them haven’t seemed to be very faithful or good leaders. Uncle is a tyrant who kept the ppl miserable and dull, living in fear of the Foosa, something we were introduced to on the first few episodes. Later on we learn about other Kings such as King Julien the Terrible who turned his people into slaves. and hell even KJ’s own parents are complete douche’s who don’t care for their people. Julien was different though, he was the first King to actually care about his people. Sure he’s reckless, takes awhile to realize danger and caused a few accidents here and there but overall KJ has been the best King to take the crown to date in the Lemur Kingdom. The Sky Gods were probably watching him and just waiting for that faithful day when Masucoura (sorry if I butcher some names) would scare Uncle into giving Julien the Crown. She probably knew that the King wouldn’t get eaten, and she put in motion whatever plans Frank and the Sky Gods had for Julien. Taking the crown from his uncle and not dying, meant Julien didn’t have to give it back when his uncle returned, and thus he remained the King. Following this he liberated his people from the Foosa, and has since went on to make history for his Kingdom. The Fact that Julien doesn’t die from a lot of things he should though is because of that goddamn luck of the Sky Gods, they want him to be king! He only gets a battle scar from the Foosa, they do things like strike lighting when it’s convenient, have a sacrificial Balloon fall just when Julien needs it to, etc. They are sending him signs that they are watching over him and he’s damn well aware of it by now and is taking advantage of it. He even made reference himself that they didn’t need to worry during the war because “The Sky God are giving us luck right now!” This is only part of the evidence that he’s a Demigod though. Given his knowledge of his luck I don’t believe King Julien is actually aware of the power he possesses. The thing that stands out the most to me that Julien was chosen to be this Demigod is the fact he has canonically, DIED, and come back to life MULTIPLE TIMES, not to mention was allowed to fight for his life on trial one of those times and was granted life again once he proved that he truly does care for his people, even the one’s he’s accidentally killed. While he may coward out when the chips are down, when the problem is actually serious and Julien must act on his own he will. He tossed himself out of a blimp to fix the issue that was preventing take off, dangerous but he did it - he went after a monster in a sub, or what he thought was a monster though, by himself, to get his friends back. One of the time’s he died was a willing sacrifice to save his friends. Julien, if it’s the only option, will lie down his own life for his people, (he offered a few times to give himself up to Koto and other times when his capture would result in freedom for his people from more minor Villians) and that is what the Sky Gods need in a true leader. A king. Julien fits the bill.

But wait we’re not done here though, outside of his insane luck which Is actually not luck but his blessing from the Sky Gods, Julien does have some fighting skills of his own. He’s actually able to be quite bad ass if the moment calls for it, and a lot of it though I heavily head canon is based in his ability to dance. He needs a beat to unlock his true potential which explains why a lot of the times he sits on the side lines and has either Clover (usually) or the Gods do the work for him. But that first goddamn episode, He kicked some Foosa ass with the power of music. He has skill. He’s done it a few more times too with his own beats. It actually makes me angry they didn’t write him fighting more often because Julien CAN fight, and I wanted to see more of it. He pulled off a few punches and took out some mountain lemurs in a small clip from the final battle, and that was fucking awesome! Did I mention Julien is actually really smart though too? Well clever. He’s very dumb when it comes to some basic stuff, social skills, etc, but when it comes to things like, escaping capture or out thinking his enemies hes damn good at that too. He’s very sneaky when he wants to be and skilled at manipulating other people. I’m convinced he’s the type who’s just playing stupid so that people never expect more from him, so that when he does more, it’s a surprise and gives him the advantage. That said though, no he really is stupid in regards to being self-centered and arrogant and doesn’t know what half the bullshit he says actually means though lol. Its a fair trade off. Okay so like going back to my main issue with the final episode that caught my eye and makes me go HMMM and ties into the Demigod theory. Julien accidentally killed Koto by dropping the rocks from the statue on him once Sage had defeated him (the whole Exiled arc really does wonders for Sage as a character too btw and I now love him as a result.) and I would also like to point out Julien has only ever killed accidentally but that’s a subject for another rant - anyway at the end when they pointed out the ghosts were also celebrating - Koto’s ghost appeared with the rest of the ghosts, but these ghosts were only the ghosts from “Frank-ra-lah” (Their version of heaven). Julien clearly stated that him not seeing Maurcie’s ghost when he was on trail and saw these other ghosts, must of meant he thought Maurice was in their version of hell, (it’s never named, just referenced as “the other place” and a dramatic shot of ground) so therefore, Koto was sent to heaven even after all his wrong doings and misdeeds, and this just makes NO sense to me because Koto was evil right? He did bad things. He took over the kingdom caused lots of people to die, etc. What fucked me up the most is King Julien saw his ghost and the two made eye contact and... Nodded and smiled at each other? FUCKING NODDED AND SMILED? AS IF, TO SAY, A JOB WELL DONE? I guess it could of been seen as Koto’s very honor-bound and just saying “you were a worthy foe, Julien” but the fact Koto’s ghost is in Heaven, makes me think... Was it all a test? Was this SET UP? Sure Karl mentioned he set the whole invasion up but did he really? I think he’s lying about some things and I’ll see more about that when finishing up the main show, as he said he’s not finished yet, but I don’t think this was Karl’s doing. I truly honestly think this was the Sky God’s testing Julien. The ultimate test, to see if he’s really fit to be a ruler. Koto was a ploy by the Sky Gods and served his purpose well that’s why he was let into heaven. And I almost feel like, given the fact Julien nodded back in response? It’s like he realized? He knows it was a test and he passed. He’s finally (maybe?) aware of his status/relation to the Sky Gods? And like it makes a whole lot of sense though given that Julien’s people were finally willing to put their lives down for him the same he would for them? They accepted him as the one true king of Madagascar. THIS WAS ALL A TEST, AND HE PASSED, AND I JUST- Listen, Marty, Alex, Gloria and Melman really didn’t know what the FUCK they were getting involved with when they washed up on the shore of Madagascar is all I’m saying.