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#also in both cases there's an alternate that weir implies they could've had this with in a 'better world'
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philip making mary happy like she was 10 is a line i remember from her Children of England bio. so "for the first time since she was ten, when her father's eye had first lighted upon anne boleyn, she was truly happy." it's anne's fault again! so i guess weir wrote this novel from reading all her old books again, and not updating it with modern theories. which is kind of like endorsing herself.
also, she says mary had "dreams" about philip, "reliving the delights" iykwim. weird she changed that part.
the boleyn years are actually the only section of the book where weir imagined and wrote out long, extended, creatively reimagined scenes and conversations between characters; pretty much everything else, up till her marriage with philip, reads like a summary of events, either paraphrases or literal verbatim excerpts from her previous works. but, as she herself said in the author's note, the only piece of her life weir sympathizes for was her 'victimization' by anne boleyn; after that she says her sympathy for her is over (an objectively wild thing to say...no sympathy for the execution of her maternal surrogate in 1541? fr?). one gets the sense that the dialogue she gives mary concerning this is 100% what weir wishes she had said to her own father's 'other woman', that she never got the chance to say (tl; dr, revenge fantasy...i still have so many questions about that a/n...her mother was threatened with jail??)
she repeats the line about dreams; ('she was tormented by sensual dreams, in which [they were] making love'), however the actual portrayal of their sex scenes makes it explicit that she doesn't experience orgasm with her husband:
"this time she began to feel, in the core of her body, some tingle of response [...] but he was pressing on heedlessly to his climax and the moment was lost anyway."
and that is...the closest she ever gets.
she does this with her AB novel as well, which i just attributed to her hating her, because she portrays that in such a roundabout way...there's 'no alchemy' between her and henry (of like, all historical couples, this seems like a reach), and the evidence she could've used to support the choice (although, i think it's pretty clear now, especially from this A/N, where she says her own mother = coa, and this other woman in her own past = anne, that it was because she found it gratifying to write about anne suffering and unhappy and lacking pleasure in her life, again...revenge fantasy/transference) she dismisses (the 'vigor nor virtue' quote is a 'lie' from jane boleyn out of spite, anne even has the thought that it's 'not true'...?).
#anon#nsfw/#anyway. i have more to say about the portrayal that i'll add to later when i have the time#i think it's either animus for certain women and/or her own personal beliefs about their compatibility or lack that inspired these choices#coa and jane apparently have pleasurable sex with their husband#but with mary i think she honestly wrote it that way bcus like she says. her respect for her as a person is as over as it is for AB once sh#'steals' henry from coa and ruins mary's life etc...#it's kind of a...not sex negative per say...but yk. it's like a harlequin conservative women fantasy. if you get me?#where when they're god of their world the rule is there's no pleasure in sex if it's not 'mutual love'#ie anne doesn't love henry so she doesn't experience pleasure with him#philip (as she pretty much confirms about 20 times...mary tells him she loves him and he never says it back) doesn't love mary so#she doesn't experience pleasure with him.#well. i guess it is sex negative. bcus obviously the men are but the women aren't in these dynamics#no pleasure in sex for *women* if not mutual love etc#also in both cases there's an alternate that weir implies they could've had this with in a 'better world'#for AB it's norris; for mary it's chapuys#well...there's a few. she believes pole would've been a better husband but that she would've never 'loved him like philip'#renard it seems to mainly be lust-based. chapuys is the love connection#that mary constantly wishes she could marry#her main thought when she hears cromwell was executed was that she's flattered he wanted to marry her#and believes that's why he 'saved' her in 1536#so she doesn't seem to doubt that particular facet of the accusations...?
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