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btw, I just saw it and why do u think that ham was born in 1757? just curious

p.s.: love to see you rambling in ur posts lmao /gen

Okay- That is like one of the nicest things somebody has ever told me?? Thank you??

Also sorry this took some time to actually get around to posting, I have procrastination issues. But anyway, I personally believe Hamilton's birthday year to be in '57 because we have such little evidence to prove otherwise. And who's to say young Hamilton wouldn't have lied about his age before to look older? Especially since he was looking for employment, it would have not been a unlikely shot. Now really, I'm not to say there is any true right or wrong answer. It's all debatable because there is no solid source of evidence to proclaim either one true. So it's really just an opinion at most.

The evidence we do have regarding Hamilton's birthday year being in '57 is just his own claims of such. Any documents in America of his birth year were always signed as 1757. Now it is most popularly considered, especially by historians, that his birthday was in 1755 and that Hamilton had chipped off a few years to look younger so it would help him get into college easier. As it was most common kids at age fifteen or younger attended college in the 18th century, and Hamilton is believed to have been seventeen when he arrived in the colonies.

But what evidence do we have to support this claim is actually pretty small. All he have is a probate court case that was turned into a transcript. Which is not necessarily enough, because Lewine hadn't known the boys very well and could have made the error, or once again, Hamilton could have lied hoping to appear more mature and adequate for hiring. As the Alexander Hamilton Wikipedia has also said; Historians have pointed out that the probate document contained other proven inaccuracies, demonstrating it was not entirely reliable. Richard Brookhiser noted that "a man is more likely to know his own birthday than a probate court."

“—where on the 19th of this month Madam Rachael Lewine died, and whose effects were forthwith sealed up, in order now to take an inventory of them for subsequent distribution among the decedent’s surviving children, who are 3 sons, namely, Peter Lewine, born in the marriage of the decedent with John Michael Lewine who, later, is said for valid reasons to have obtained from the highest authorities a divorce from her (according to what the probate court has been able to ascertain), also 2 other sons, namely, James Hamilton and Alexander Hamilton, the one 15 and the other 13 years old, who are the same illegitimate children sc. born after the decedent’s separation from the aforesaid Lewine."

(source)

The Caribbean was by no means professional or wealthy, if Hamilton could not even have a surviving birth certificate, it's not doubtful to say their law system probably wasn't the most efficient either. (Also they settled Hamilton's "suicide" case horribly)

There only one other form of "evidence" we have is this letter that was posted on a poem given to the news in Saint Croix.

“Sir, I am a youth about seventeen, and consequently such an attempt as this must be presumptuous; but if, upon perusal, you think the following piece worthy of a place in your paper, by inserting it you’ll much oblige Your obedient servant.

-A.H"

(source)

We don't actually know if this poem was submitted by Hamilton or not, though historians have assumed such because of the initials. The poem was submitted in April 6, 1771, so it would not add up if Hamilton's birth was 1757. But this is again where I bring up, Hamilton could have changed the year to appear more suitable and employable. Especially to try and get his poem in the Gazette.

Basically, Hamilton could have fudged with the numbers either way, wether it was to appear older or younger, and I would not consider him above doing either honestly. The probate court case transcript is not enough solid evidence in my opinion though.

Not to mention, Hamilton was often described as scrawny and young looking when he made it to the colonies. As one had said Hamilton in his beginning years of military, "I noticed a youth, a mere stripling, small, slender, almost delicate in frame," Though it should also be noted Hamilton suffered with immunity and would often be sick while in war.

So it's really up to the interpretation, I find '57 to be overall more believable because I think it be a very "Hamilton thing" to lie about your age to appear older and help him get a job. Especially since he had been desperate and willing to do lots in order to just get out of the islands and make a name for himself. And we really have only two unreliable accounts to say otherwise. But it's really up to anyone on what to think! ^^