#a ‘few years older’ than stiles and scott

[arlos-warm-drpepper]

When people argue about Derek’s age, it’s usually either 19 or 23 at the start of teen wolf. And the reason for this is because of Derek’s canonically fake license, right? But then also Stiles claiming that Derek was “only a few years older” than him and Scott, and in the same scene, claiming that the hale fire happened 10 years ago. As a current 17 y/o, I would never describe a 23 y/o as being “just a few years older” this also would mean that the hale fire had happened when Derek was 13 years old, which is impossible because Derek was shown to be older before the hale fire when we had a flashback to the whole Paige situation. This means that there is no way the fire happened 10 years ago, whether Derek is 23 or 19. You could argue that this doesn’t mean that the hale fire didn’t happen 10 years ago, but rather that Derek was actually around 26, but a teenager would DEFINITELY not be claiming a man of that age to be “a few years older” and nobody would just be okay with a man of that age having romantic relations to a 16 y/o (Erica.)

Derek openly flaunted his and Erica’s fling in front of Scott and Stiles, and even kissed Erica multiple times in front of Isaac and Boyd. Do you think they would just have nothing to say about a grown man being with a child?

In conclusion, Derek hales age will never be confirmed or known, because not even Jeff Davis knew Dereks age. Derek was originally meant to be 19 in the pilot, which we know for fact, (even though that means he would’ve been 9 during the fire, which makes absolutely no sense at all) and Jeff Davis realized this, and also realized Tyler Hoechlin really did not look like a 19 year old, and tried to change his age in further seasons. The problem with this is that in his attempt to fix the continuity, he fucked it up more!!! And he had dug himself into a hole and couldn’t climb his way out, so he decided to just keep Derek’s age unknown and sososo vague. So when someone goes “well how was Derek 19 if the fire happened 10 years ago?” Someone else can go “well actually he was 26” and if someone goes “well then why did Stiles say he was a few years older? And why did nobody have an issue with him and Erica?” Someone else can go “well because he was actually 19” and when someone goes “well if he’s 26/19, why’d his ID say he was 23” someone else can go “well he was actually 23” because Derek’s age was never and will never be confirmed, consistent, or even real.

He even implemented the confusion about Derek’s age into the show. Making it CANON that Derek’s age just doesn’t really exist. Stiles asks Peter directly how old Derek was and he says something vague along the lines of not too young but not too old or something. It’s ridiculous.

But here are the FACTS that we know about Derek hales age

-He was young enough that nobody blinked an eye and his and Erica’s relationship.

-He was young enough that nobody questioned him hanging around a high school and a bunch of high schoolers

-he was a child when Kate was an adult (Kate had to literally age him down to get him on her side, and Derek didn’t even question why Kate was an adult)

-He was 18+ (could live on his own and stuff)

So next time you find yourself arguing about Derek’s age, stop and consider that it’s a moot point. You will never know his age, neither will the person you’re arguing with. His age will always be up for interpretation. And, taking this into account, it is useless to argue whether or not shipping Stiles, or any character, with Derek is moral, because Derek’s age does not exist!

I feel like a lot of you forget that these are fictional characters, and that in almost every story there are unexplainable plot holes that can be brushed to the side in order to enjoy a story despite it not making sense. Derek’s age is one of these plot holes, and like any other, it can be brushed to the side in order to enjoy his character, the story, and any ships he’s apart of. Thank you for coming to my ted talk!

[lunajay33]

Secrets

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Summary: You’ve been sneaking around with Derek Hale since your brother Stiles brought him into your life, no one knew but when you find out you’re pregnant everything changes, will your family and friends be there for you?

Pairing: Derek Hale x f!reader

Includes: Pregnancy, supernatural activity, 18+

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Life use to be simple, just me stiles and dad, nights where Scott stiles and I would hang out watching random movies mostly sci-fi action but I didn’t care because it was moments like that I cherished, until everything changed, Scott changed into a werewolf, stiles got caught up in it try to help and along the way I found out, then it was a little pack of us, Scott, stiles, Lydia, Allison, Jackson and me

Then one night I met Derek Hale, only a few years older than me, he too was a werewolf and trying to help Scott but the guys didn’t seem to trust him

But I couldn’t help myself, one night when he texted me asking to meet I snuck out and from then on it’s been amazing, he was nothing like stiles described, he was caring and sweet to me, only me I noticed which made it feel even better

And now it’s been 2 years of sneaking around and it just gets harder and harder everytime we have a pack meeting, we’ve added a few more members over the years, Isaac and Kira and to everyone’s dismay Peter

Peter was the only one that knew about us, we kinda had to let him in on the secret since he lived in the same loft where Derek and I would hang out away from the others

Rolling over in bed I wrap my arm around Derek’s waist and rest my head on his chest as he holds me tighter

“Morning baby” his voice rough from sleep which always got to me

“Mmmm I don’t wanna get up” I sigh as I sit up on his lap running my hand over his firm chest

“I know if I could I’d keep you in the bed all day but you need to get your little ass to school or your brother will be sniffing around” he says sitting up a placing kisses up my neck

“Don’t do that you’re just making it harder for me to leave D” he gently bite my shoulder making me gasp, we found out shortly after hanging out together that I was his mate, he said it was rare to find one as a werewolf but that’s the reason we were so drawn together

I quickly got ready for school, having to shower to get his scent off me with all the supernatural senses around someone would’ve sensed it

Standing at the loft door he helps me by putting my books in my bag and putting it over my shoulder

“See you tonight? Got the pack meeting” he said squeezing my hips

“Yeah I’ll be here, love you”

“Love you too, now go before you’re late again” he smirks as he smacks my ass and I squeak turning to leave

•

Walking through the school I put my bag away and jump when stiles and Lydia lean on the locker next to me

“And where have you been all night huh?” Stiles questions as he quirks an eyebrows, seeing Lydia smirking behind him with a knowing look

“I was just at a friends house” I blush closing my locker and walking to my class

“Friend? We’re your only friends and we were all at Scott’s last night watching movies soooo who’s this friend”

“Stiles leave the girl be I’m sure she has a perfect explanation when she’s ready” Lydia adds coming to my defense

“Yeah bro everything’s fine trust me, really fine” I laugh Lydia joining in making stiles gag

“Oh god I don’t wanna hear that, forget I asked” he pulls me into a hug before leaving to his class me and Lydia heading to chemistry

“Sooooo who’s this mystery man? Isaac wasn’t there last night is it him?”

“Of course not he’s with Allison, plus it doesn’t matter all you need to know is he’s amazing to me”

“Annnnnndddd….” She wiggles her eyebrows

“And he’s amazing in bed oh my god lyds, and he was so gentle with me during my first time”

“First time? How long have you been with this guy?”

“Ummm a while”

“Why keep him a secret? Unless it’s someone you shouldn’t be with” she squints her eyes looking me over and it spikes my heart beat if anyone would find out it would be her and then I see the moment it dawns on her

“No fricken way…..Derek?” I shush her quickly because of the supernatural hearing all over the school

“Look you can’t tell anyone please we’re not ready yet” she smiles softly

“I won’t but I do count of you coming to me with all the hot deets”

“Fine I can do that” I smile as class begins

•

I get to Derek’s loft earlier than the others to get my daily dose of my mate, I knock on the door and Peter opens with a knowing smirk

“Well hello again beautiful, come for my nephew again?”

“Of course, is he here?” I ask as he lets me in, I drop my bag on the couch looking around

“He’ll be down in a moment, you seem more eager than usual”

“I don’t know I’m still not in on all the mating behaviors” I say sitting at the kitchen counter

“I might have an idea” he says crossing his arm

“Wanna clue me in?”

“Hmmmm not yet, you’ll know soon enough” before I could ask further Derek came down headed straight for me, his usual scowl disappears when he sees me

“Hi baby” I smile when he stands between my legs and pulling me into a hard passionate kiss

“Miss me that much my alpha?” His eyes glowed red at me calling him alpha, he told me it was this animalistic thing that really turned him on

“Save that for later and you’ll be begging for more” he stepped away right as the door opened and the whole pack strolled in taking their usual spots

I hold in the urge to scream, my body already lit with desire, even though I’m not a werewolf I still get the effects of mates just not as strong

“Sis here already?” Stiles asks as he wraps his arm around my shoulder and leads me to sit next to him on the couch

“Didn’t have anything to do after school so I just came here”

“And have to put up with Peter I’d rather die” I smack his arm playfully

“Hey he’s not so bad”

“To you”

“Maybe because she isn’t annoying” Peter says from across the room

“Peter be nice”

We go on to discuss the shit that’s been happening in town finding there’s a something out there that’s been messing around, doing some kind of rituals in threes

“We don’t know what the “categories” are yet but we have to stick together, never be alone, watch out for eachother” Scott adds

We finish up and slowly everyone filters out

“Come on sis I’ll drive you home” stiles says

“Oh I’ve got somethings I need to talk to her about, and we have a sleepover planned so don’t wait up okay?!” Lydia says saving my ass

“Okay have fun girls” he smiles wide before leaving with Scott

“Thank you I am not ready to leave yet”

“I can tell you’ve been squirming this whole time, have fun girl friend” she says taking out a glittery lipgloss and touches my lips up

“But you can’t go alone” I add

“I’ll get her home safe, thank me later” Peter says leading Lydia out the door and I can hear their bickering making me laugh

I turn and bump into Derek and he quickly picks me up and throws me over his shoulder smacking my ass again

“You’re mine now girl”

•

He throws me down on the bed and crawls over my, my legs wide for him to get between, his canine scratching down my throat

“This feeling lately is a lot stronger than usual, it’s even more than when you’re in your rut” I moan when he rips my shirt off

“Your scent is driving me crazy, it’s different and it’s making me feral, I don’t know what it is but god I love it” he presses his nose against my shorts breathing in making me gasp

“Derek please”

“Wrong name” he growls

“Alpha please I need you” with his super human strength he rips off the rest of my clothes leaving me bare, I’m quick to help discard him of his clothes too till we’re both naked and nothing separates us, his hands roam down my chest down to my hips and then he slows and his ears perk up as his thumbs trace over my lower stomach

I place my hands on his wrists never seeing him stop in a heated moment like this

“Are you okay baby?” A rumble sounds from his chest giving me a comforting ease

“Did you know?” His eyes finally look at me

“Know what? Is something wrong with me? Am I sick?” I panic knowing they could sense things before humans can

He fully puts his hand over my belly and the warmth makes me hum in content

“That’s why we’ve been so crazy, your hormones are in overdrive because you’re carrying my kid”

“Are you serious? I’m pregnant?” I sit up on my elbows and see no lie on his face

“Oh god I’m sorry Derek, I didn’t mean to stiles and my dad are gonna kill me”

“Hey calm down it’ll be okay, plus it’s not your fault if anything it’s me but you know I can’t help it when we’re in the moment, let’s give it time”

“Should we tell them we’re together first to ease them into it?” I ask trying to figure a solution out to our 2 years of keeping this a secret

“Probably the best”

“Did you want this?” I ask running my hands through his hair

“With my mate I want everything”

•

Sitting at lunch just me Scott stiles Allison Lydia and Isaac, I was going savage on the cheeseburger and everyone was looking at me

“What?”

“Hungry?” Stiles smiles as he puts his chocolate bar on my tray

“Very, I’ve been eating all day”

“Something going on?” Lydia asks smirking

“What? No why would you ask? I’m fine?” I panic laugh

“Woah calm down girl just making sure you’re okay!” Allison smiles and the table erupts in laughter

“Look im just hungry can’t a girl eat” I try to brush it off

We talk about some of the research that stiles found with the sacrifices, three people from every five groups

I could barely pay attention still trying to wrap my brain around the fact that I’m gonna have a baby, I clear my throat to get everyone’s attention

“Ummm are you guys free tonight?”

“Yeah nothing but research” stiles say and everyone else says they’re free

“Would you guys be able to get all the pack together and meet at Derek’s at like 6?”

“Sure everything okay?” Isaac asks

“Yeah just need to tell you guys something” before further questions I take my tray and walk away going to throw everything out and heading into the school

“So how was last night?” Lydia asks from beside me making me scream

“Holy shit you scared me”

“I need the details after covering for you and having to ride home with Peter”

“Well we were going to have a rough night but then….things happened and we ended up having a slow really good time”

“And what happened?” I blush as I brush my hair back

“I can’t tell you yet, just come tonight”

•

I pull up to the loft building with stiles, we walk up the stairs and when we walk in everyone’s already there

“Well we’re all here, what is it you needed to tell us?”

I look at Peter and Derek and they nod, Derek waves me over to sit on the chair infront of him, his hands rub my shoulders soothingly

“Uuuuhhhh what’s going on?” Stiles asks his eyebrows knitting together in confusion

“I’ve been seeing Derek, I’m sorry for keeping it a secret but I just didn’t want to be judged since he’s a bit older”

Everyone was shocked

“How long?” Allison asks gently

“Since the day I met her”

“2 YEARS AGO?” Stiles shouts flailing his arms

“Look I knew you guys weren’t sure of him at first so we kept it to ourselves and then it just kept going, only Peter knew”

“That’s why Peter only seems to like you”

“Exactly” Peter adds smirking devilishly

“And why tell us now?” Scott asks

“Just with everything going on we didn’t want any secrets” Derek picks me up and sits me on his lap

“I’m serious about him stiles, I know it’s a lot but trust me”

“They’re mates” Peter drops the bomb

“Mates? I didn’t know we could have mates” Isaac says

“It’s rare, very rare, she doesn’t feel the effects as much as a wolf would but she still gets those……side effects during that time of the month” I groan hiding my face in Derek’s shoulder

“Okay I didn’t need to know that last part” stiles sighs

“I’m happy for you guys, maybe Derek won’t be such a sourpuss anymore” Lydia smiles

“He’s not a sourpuss for me”

“Now everyone out I need time with my nephew and niece in law” Peter growls and everyone leaves

“I LOVE YOU STILES” I yell out

“LOVE YOU TOO SIS”

Now just the three of us I sigh feeling a weight lift off my shoulders

“When are you telling them you’re pregnant?” He asks

“Not yet, I’m gonna wait till I’m settled with it, I mean I only just found out last night I’m having a baby and I’m still in highschool, it’s a lot”

“Well we’re here to help, if it’s a boy you have to name him after me”

“Hmmmm maybe we’ll see” Derek seemed really quiet this whole time, he picks me up easily in his arms and carries me to his room gently sitting my down

“Are you alright? You’ve been pretty quiet, are you have second thoughts” he presses his hand against my chest which always helped ease my worrying

“Never, just worried about both your safety”

“With what stiles found I don’t fit into any category” I say climbing into his lap running my hands down his biceps

“Yeah but druids can be tricky, bend the rules”

“Well it’s a good thing I have a big strong alpha to protect me, now relax let’s get in comfy clothes and cuddle because it’s been a couple stressful days” he changed into nothing my grey sweats and I pulled on one of his sleeping shirts and a new pair of panties I kept here, he holds me in bed with the cool night breeze blowing in through the window behind us

My back against his chest and his hand protectively splayed out across my lower stomach

“I think it’ll be a girl”

“We need more girls in our pack and that way we don’t have to name it after Peter” he says making us both laugh

“Goodnight my love” I whisper feeling the sleep take over

“Love you too”

•

It’s been a week since we told everyone and they were still getting us to the idea of me and Derek, especially stiles but he understood that if he made me happy then it would be okay

Lydia invited me and Allison over for a girls night and to spill deets on our relationships and I couldn’t wait, I needed some girl time

Plopping down on her bed we all sit around in a circle with our fav snacks in the middle

“So how’s it going with Isaac?” I ask Allison as I bit down on a gummy bear

“Good, it’s different than with Scott but I’m Isaac’s first relationship so it’s kinda fun showing him everything”

“Little miss Allison got a corruption kink” Lydia laughs making Allison blush

“I do not……oh god maybe I do” I squeaks at the realization

“What about you, I know you must be one lucky girl with a guy like Derek”

“Oh he’s amazing in bed, he was my first and definitely my last, he was gentle with me during my first time and after that he broke me into all the things we could possibly do”

“I can’t believe your his mate and how you never got caught” Allison says eating a fuzzy peach candy

“I took precautions, always showered after being with him or made up excuses, i feel bad but i love Derek too much to really feel too much guilt” we giggle and then Lydia pokes me

“I know you’re hiding something else, more than you’re promiscuous secret relationship”

“Oh I don’t know me and Derek wanted to wait till everything blew over and we were ready”

“Come on it’s us! Spit it out we won’t tell”

I take a deep breath, once I tell them it means this is real, this is really happening and I really have a mini werewolf growing inside me

“Come on the suspense is killing me!” Allison whines with a bright smile

“I’m pregnant” their mouths drop open, both concern and joy expressed

“How do you feel about that? We’ll support you either way” Lydia says

“I’m happy, still trying to figure it out, I mean I’m in highschool and pregnant and stiles is gonna freak out, my dads gonna kill me and I don’t wanna disappoint him, but I love Derek and I already love this baby, plus these baby hormones has Derek crazy for me” I smile rubbing my belly where a bump will soon be

“Well if you’re happy we’re happy, and hey stiles loves you so much you know he’ll be by your side and your dad will get over it he adores you” I nod at Lydia’s reassurance

“You guys can’t tell anyone please, I still need time”

“Of course now let’s order some pizza and watch the new episode of vampire diaries!”

The girls had fallen asleep on the bed so I tucked them in, making a make shift bed on the comfy couch Lydia has in her room

Checking my phone I see a missed text from Derek

Hope you’re having fun baby, missing you already

Peter told me my hormones will have a strong effect of Derek making him more protective and extra affectionate

Miss you too, feeling cold without my usual body heater wrapped around me:)

Need me to crash girls night?;)

Keep it in your pants wolf man, I’ll survive one night you can have me all to yourself tomorrow but you’ll have to come to my place

I’ll be waiting baby girl, love you and our pup, goodnight

Goodnight, love you too x

I smile turning off my phone and curl up in all the blankets falling asleep feeling like everything is falling into place

•

School was slow until gym came and we found a dead body strung to a tree, as the police came the pack watch knowing this was the work of the Druid

“That was Mike Forbes dad, whoever is picking people off they’re going after guardians now” instinctively I place my hand on my belly and I feel Lydia squeeze my shoulder

“You’ll be okay, just breathe” she whispers

When coach tells for us to head back to the school I see Derek in the parking lot leaning against his hood and when he sees me he opens his arms and I run wrapping my arms around him

“It’s going after guardians Derek, I’m scared”

“We’ll be okay we’ve got the pack and if I’m not with you I’ll stick Peter with you”

“Think he’ll agree to do that?”

“You’re carrying his great niece or nephew he’ll definitely agree”

“What? You’re pregnant?” I turn seeing stiles and Scott not standing far away, in the fear of the moment I completely forgot where we were

“Stiles I can explain please just…..please don’t be mad at me, I can’t lose you” I feel the panic rising Derek’s hand rubbing my lower back

“Why didn’t you tell me before, I just feel like I’m missing this huge part of your life, I’ve never kept a secret from you” I walk up to him and Scott goes to stand by Derek

“I know I just….i didn’t want you to be disappointed in me, you’re so smart and even though you’re crazy dad is proud of you and this is just another thing I feel like I’ll be letting him down, and you’re my best friend, you’re my brother and I didn’t want you to see me differently” he sighs and loosens up slumping his shoulders as he pulls me into his chest hugging me tightly

“You’re my sister, no matter what you’ll do I’ll always love you and you could never disappoint me and dad, you know you’re his little angel, sure he’ll probably have a heart attack but then he’ll be over bearing always checking on you and so will I, I just can’t believe I’m stuck with that sourpuss in our lives forever” he jokes and I smack his arm

“You know he’s the best to protect me and I know secretly you like him, and hey you get to be an uncle now”

“Shit I didn’t even realize that oh wow” he wipes his forehead stressing a bit, Lydia comes over and pats his shoulder and takes him off give me a smile and wink as she goes

“Congrats sis, I know you’re going through a lot but you know we’re all here for you” Scott says before he leaves to join the pack

“That’s not how I wanted to tell him” I sigh feeling Derek’s presence behind me and he pulls me close to him, my back against his chest

“But he didn’t get mad like you thought, I told you everything will be okay, now get your pretty little ass to class, I’ll pick you up after”

•

It’s been a few weeks since the incident in the woods and the Druid was working slower, not another sacrifice since that day which only put the whole pack on edge

Today was the appointment for my ultrasound to see if everything’s going okay, Derek picks up stiles and I and we head to the hospital, Derek was hesitant about stiles coming but I wanted him there

Laying on the bed the doctor squeezes gel along my little barely noticeable bump and runs the wand over it

Then we hear the little heart beat and I can’t help but tear up, I feel Derek squeeze my hand and stiles eyes are wide

“There the heart beat, strong, very strong actually, how far along do you think you are?” She asks I look at Derek and we’re trying to calculate but it’s hard with how much we went at it

“Ummm I’m not sure maybe like 2 months”

“Well even though your bump is small I’d say you’re about 4, she’s way bigger than 2 months, I’ll print off some pictures and leave you to clean up” she smiled before leaving the room

“A baby girl” I gasp seeing tears in Derek’s eyes, seeing him with a pout and his eyes glossy warmed my heart

“We’re having a little girl” he says as he leans up and kisses me slowly, wiping my tears after, I look up at stiles and he’s smiling wide and he was buzzing like a bee wanted to fly

“Come here spaz” he pulls me into a hug wanting to jump off the walls

“I’m gonna have a niece this is insane holy shit”

“You’re gonna be the best uncle ever, she’s a lucky girl like me to have you in her life”

Derek took the towel and wiped off the gel and we left after the doctor gave us the pictures of the ultrasound, we all got in Derek black car and drove back to my house

“How am I 4 months already, Peter would’ve sensed that a lot earlier”

“Typically when the baby is a wolf they grow faster, my mother was only pregnant for about 5 months” Derek adds like it’s nothing

“Wait so I only have 3 more months to get ready oh god that’s a lot, woah it’s hot in here……” I gasp rolling down the window panicking, 3 months and then I’m a mother and I still have to get literally everything ready

“Hey it’ll be okay, the pack will help with everything sis” stiles says patting my shoulder

“But what about the Druid they’re still out there and I don’t want my baby in danger, and we still have to tell dad and……and it’s just a lot”

“You know I’d never let anything hurt either of you baby, we’ll all try our hardest to get rid of this birch before our little pup comes” Derek says rubbing my thigh

How did my life come to this?

•

Part.2

[hedwig221b]

I have a very specific ask 😅 tbh I’m not even sure if there are even any stories out there like this but it’s worth a shot. I was wondering if you know of or if anyone knows lol of any trope where it’s Derek as the older sibling and stiles as younger siblings (Scott or Cora) best friend, but instead of it being the classic “I’m in love with my best friends brother” it’s Derek being in love with his sisters best friend. I feel like I don’t see this. It’s always the first way around. thank you for any help!

Hi! I found a few, hope you like them!

Snowed In by paintedrecs

As far as Derek could tell, Cora hadn’t asked if she could bring someone home for the holidays. She’d barely even bothered to give a heads up: she’d texted from the rest stop that was almost exactly halfway between campus and home, by which point it was much too late to tell her to leave this unwelcome intruder—some guy named Stiles—behind. Derek loved Christmas. Family-only Christmases, that is, which Cora had thrown a wrench into this year by bringing home a guy who turned out to be handsome, funny, brilliant, and…of course…completely unavailable. Or so Derek thought.

A Serendipitous Occurance by DominikaDecember

Derek is living at home with his two annoying siblings, his mother who is killing herself at work and he's stuck in a crappy job with friends who are just as lost as him. Nothing really changes. Especially not when Derek realizes that he has a crush on his little brother's best friend

trace and memorize by StarAmongStones

"If mom asks, I’m working on a project for school," Cora says, already halfway up the stairs. The boy in front of Derek clears his throat, face splotchy in embarrassment, and says, “We are actually working on a project together. I don’t know why she said it like that.” “I literally don’t care,” Derek says, turning back to his laptop.

Dirty Little Secret by isthatbloodonhisshirt (wasterella)

"Holy shit, this is a date!” he blurted out, turning back to Derek wide-eyed. “This is a date! You intended for this to be a date, this was supposed to be a date!” He figured if he said it enough times, maybe he would believe it, but so far, no dice. Derek was scowling again—seriously, did he want wrinkles?—but he just reached into one of the bags and pulled out a burger, checking what was written on the foil in sharpie before handing it over to Stiles. “Of course it’s a date, what did you think this was?”

Ecstasy by allfandoms93

Derek moves home after college in New York not expecting an instant connection to Cora's best friend, Stiles.

Permanent Fixture by linksofmemories_archive

Derek is Scott's older brother. Stiles is Scott's best friend. Derek is falling in love with Stiles. This is a bit of a problem.

Sentimental Value by captaintinymite (augopher)

Thanks to some pilfered cookies, Derek has nothing but disdain and suspicions about his brother Scott's roommate when he comes to stay with them over the summer. Derek will never admit he finds Stiles attractive, but he finds he's having serious trouble avoiding his him, especially with the unsolicited, erotic dreams he keeps having at night about his brother's best friend. As it turns out, the pair have more in common than first believed; they grow to enjoy each other's company, and then some. But my how things change after a break-in results in a stressful situation for Stiles.

it's not fratricide (because he's my cousin)

Scott's not stupid; he knows that Derek's had a thing for Stiles for years.

and it's so, it's so by Marishna

Derek's had a crush on Stiles for years but has always been too chickenshit to do anything about it.

Get to the place we both know where we need to be by Marishna

Stiles was at the house again. Fuck, Derek thought to himself, then immediately thumped his head lightly against the living room wall because he honestly wasn't sure if he meant that as a curse or verb.

I'll tell you what I want, what I really really want by Samcgrath

Derek's got some feelings for his little brother's best friend and he's dealing with it. No matter what Laura says, he is dealing with it. The Sheriff might hate his guts but he's dealing with it. Stiles may not feel the same but he's dealing with it. Why won't people leave him alone and let him deal with his things? OR: Derek catches Stiles singing along to The Spice Girls and it sets things in motion.

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[chloe-skywalker]

They Were There - Peter Hale

Peter x Fem!Reader

Warnings: none

Word count: 635

Summary: Derek and Cora know about Y/n and Peter because they were there when he proposed. Everyone else in the pack? Surprise.

Masterlist

Teen Wolf Masterlist

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“Welcome to the family.” Derek smiled, hugging Y/n as she and Peter entered the loft having just got back from their honeymoon. Y/n and Derek had been friends since junior high but now she was his sister in law and Derek wasn’t disappointed. “Cora sends her congrats and welcome but she had to leave.”

“Its okay. I already talked to her.” Y/n smiled, waving it off, her and Cora had already talked a few days before. “Its great to finally be apart of the family.” Y/n groaned back at Peter along with Derek.

“Sorry I didn’t want to rush things.” Peter narrowed his eyes at the two.

“You have been in love with her since you were 14. I think you took your damn time.” Derek raised his brows looking at his uncle with an exaggerated look. Even if he was somewhat commatoused for a few years, his uncle still took his damn time.

“I’m just glad you did it to begin with.” Y/n let out a laugh, it was a long time coming.

“It's been a longtime coming.” Peter pulled Y/n, his wife, into his side and kissed her. He could be soft with her.

“There's a pack meeting tonight here at the loft.” Derek told them after their little moment, Y/n is good for his uncle. Doesn’t mean he wouldn’t kill him again to protect her, but she did make him a better person.

“I’ll be there.” Y/n told him.

“Will you?” Derek asked his uncle knowing how much he did not care for the pack.

“Since my wife will be there, yes. I gotta know what I’ll have to protect you from when their plans go wrong.” Peter stated sarcastically. Y/n and Derek just looked at eachother and rolled their eyes.

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“Your back!” Scott said with a smile rushing over to hug Y/n once the pack entered the loft and saw she was there. They had all missed her.

“You’ve been gone so long.” Allsion said having missed her older friend. Y/n was older than the group of teens, she was the older sister figure of the pack.

“Where’d you go?” Stiles asked.

“Is that a ring on your finger?” Lydia points out having caught the shine of it catching the light.

“You got married?” Allison questioned in shock, having looked down to Y/n’s hand like everyone else after hearing Lydia.

“Yes.” Y/n nodded.

“Without us?” Scott gave her his sad puppy dog eyes.

“We plan on having a reception with all of you sometime in the near future.” Y/n smiled at them and she saw her words lesson their sadness.

“We? Who’s the dude?” Stiles raised a brow.

“Peter.”

“Peter as in Peter Hale?!” Scott’s eyes bulged out of his head. 

“As in Derek’s uncle?” Allison was less shocked but more surprised.

“Yes, she's a Hale now.” Derek smirked proudly.

“I am.” She smiled.

“Peter Hale?” Stiles squinted his eyes, still not believing it.

“Is there something wrong with me?” Peter raised his eyebrows pretending to be innocent. He spoke up for the first time since the pack arrived from his spot on the couch.

“You're a psychopath for starters.” Stiles stated addressing the oldest Hale.

“He’s different with her. I’ll defend him on that. He has always been different when it comes to Y/n.” Derek spoke up.

Y/n walked over to Peter, sitting on the arm of the couch.

“That's because she’s different. She’s mine.” Peter growled the last part possessively.

“And you're mine.” Y/n smiled at him leaning over to kiss him.

“Oh he’s been yours since he laid eyes on you.” Derek teased and he got satisfaction when his uncle flashed his eyes at him but couldn’t deny his nephew's statement.

[sototallynormaliswear]

Love when people are like "isn't derek like 23 at the start of the show" because I got NO CLUE BABEY

IVE WATCHED FOUR SEASONS OF THIS SHOW AND I CANNOT REMEMBER ANY REFERENCE TO HIS AGE BESIDES

1) the first episode, where stiles claims he's a few years older than them and also the fire was 10 years ago (it wasn't)

And

2) that scene in season 3 where stiles explicitly asks how old derek was when he met Paige and it's kept deliberately vague ("not as young as we could have been but not as old as you might think" thank you peter, you are truly a well of information)

Maybe there's interviews somewhere that directly state how old he is, but as someone who just watches the show, Derek could be basically any age older than Scott and Stiles are

[subpar-celestial]

I NEED a formal apology for being weirded out by sterek because I just saw some shit with Tyler Hoachlen talking about how inconsistent his characters age is.

AND UPON REWATCH IT ISSSS!!! At the beginning Stiles openly States Derek is just a few years older than them (presumably 2-3 max), but as the show goes on I SWEAR they start treating this man like he's in his thirties!!

AND I KNOW y'all are gonna mention how Crystal Reed was older than Tyler Hoechlin and it's trueeee, but it's all about the perception. None of them were actually highschool age but we perceived them to be and then Derek just like kept getting older and older.

By the end he was pretty solidly roped in with the adults. In my mind there was the pack (Scott and the gang), the adult pack (parents+ Derek), and the puppy pack (you all know who all that refers to).

Basically my dumbass with short term memory forgot that Stiles literally says Derek is a few years older than him, and I got confused about the legitimacy of these fictional characters relationship.

[tossawary]

I'm only on Episode 5 of "Teen Wolf" and it's hard not to think about Stiles/Derek due to the pairing's influence as a fandom juggernaut throughout the 2010s. It has, over the years, occasionally made me intensely curious as to what was actually in the source material to spark this, versus how much of it was the migratory slash fanfiction fandom stuff.

I don't have... super strong opinions of them from the source material yet? I don't really think they have positive or negative chemistry at the moment. Their interactions are hampered by the fact that I think Derek Hale is currently kind of incoherent as a character, apparently not allowed to actually talk to anyone due to contrived drama reasons, preventing him from connecting naturally on an informational or emotional level to Stiles or Scott. Derek's backstory is still murky and largely unknown. Derek's personal goals here are also a little unclear. Some of this will be cleared up as the season goes on.

I do think that I personally would enjoy Derek more if he had actually been only a few years older than Scott and Stiles, as Stiles says in the first episode, and actually looked it as well. I think that Derek being younger, being another "teen wolf" at 19, would have 1) put him on more even footing with Scott, and 2) made him come across as more of a scared, cornered animal, lashing out at the Argents and stumbling around lost without his family/pack. Like, the traumatized lone wolf thing is apparently what's happening with Derek anyway, but I do think all that would be better communicated to the audience if Derek looked younger and more pathetic and was allowed to snap at / talk to people more and with purpose.

If Derek was younger, I also think that he would function as a better mirror / foil to Scott. Here's this kid who was born a werewolf (unlike Scott), had a big and loving family (Scott has a single, loving mother and an apparently better-absent father), and is now orphaned and homeless and friendless (unlike Scott). It would also make Kate look even more vile and I'm good with that. I know the writers are going to absolutely miss the opportunity to have Scott and Derek's relationship have some more positive give-and-take. Scott has a lot to offer Derek! Scott's kind heart is one of my favorite things about him so far!

Anyway, back to the Stiles/Derek stuff. Yeah, I would also like Stiles/Derek or Scott/Derek more as concepts if Derek was younger. Right now, from the actual canon material I've seen, disregarding the knowledge I've picked up over the years regarding Derek's life, Derek is mostly giving me Angel from "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" vibes. And I really did not like Angel and especially not Angel/Buffy.

One positive thing I will say for Stiles/Derek is that I can absolutely see where the ship originally came from. Stiles does have some very queerbait-y lines with the "am I attractive to gay guys" humor. Derek is conventionally attractive. Derek and Stiles are the only two people in on the "Scott is a werewolf" problem, helping him out, and there's maybe a dash of "pair the spares" to it, but these two people are actually interacting and cooperating to solve problems together. And "I got you arrested for a murder you didn't commit" / "you need to cut off my arm" is a hell of a starting point for a ship. That's honestly great stuff. That's a level of freak that might generally inspire me to invent chemistry for a pair of characters, just to figure out how to make that relationship work.

In conclusion, I don't personally ship it, but I get it. I totally see where it came from.

[crybabystilinski]

heyyyyyyyy. could i request a liam dunbar fic. maybe something of liam always trying to impress the reader cause he likes her (like a kid trying get his parents attention to show them some dumb thing) and scott and stiles always tease the reader about it but she finds it endearing.

ᝰ NOTE — i'm so sorry it took me so long to write & i hope you enjoy!! (i lwk hate this though)

SUMMARY — liam is always trying too hard to impress you, but luckily for him, you find him it cute.

PAIRING — liam dunbar x stilinski!reader

“wait—y/n is here?” liam suddenly interrupted mason and corey, who have been trying to get liam ready and out onto the field for the past five minutes.

“yeah? she came with scott, said she was bored.” mason laughed, making eye conversation with corey. none of which registered to liam, who was now solely focused on you.

the other two boys were only semi-surprised to see liam get up and ready within a few seconds.

surprised? not really. intrigued? definitely.

he ran out of the locker room quicker than he ran away from supernatural enemies.

you, however, were standing on the side of the field ’casually’ searching for liam. originally you showed up to honestly help scott with his last day as assistant coach.

that, and you wanted more time with him.

wanted to hang out with your older brother figure, since your real older brother left already.

but the longer that practice went on and liam didn’t show up, the more you worried about him. what if something bad happened? since scott got bit in his sophomore year your mind always went to the worst case scenario.

aside from the supernatural, coach was getting pissed and threatening to not make him captain. which was just petty because the rest of the team is mediocre at their very best.

you watched as one of the team members shot the ball, going directly to the goalie. the goalie being nolan, you knew it would go in.

but in the last second, a boy you recognize instantly—even without his jersey number—comes in with a backflip to catch the ball.

coach is happy, screaming, “now that’s how you play lacrosse, mccall! who is that kid?” as if they weren’t wearing numbers. you stayed silent, watching liam run through the other players.

“no, coach, that’s liam!” scott explains, and you tune out the rest of their conversation.

once liam is successfully on the other side of the field, making the goal, he turns to you. some of the other kids praise him, some sigh because they were on the losing team, but he ignores them.

he waves to you instead.

“he’s really cool, huh? can do backflips?” scott teased you, also knowing liam would hear. you smacked his chest, hiding your smile.

“shut up.” you murmured.

scott chuckled, “hey, stiles told me i had to step it up while he’s gone.” you shook your head with a laugh, thinking about all of the times stiles would tease you about liam.

specifically every time he did something small for you, or tried to impress you.

like the time liam made you an impromptu flower bouquet while you guys were supposed to be searching the woods.

you were honestly looking, and liam was most of the time, but he saw multiple bushes of flowers and decided it would be a good idea to collect them. each time you guys passed flowers he pulled a few and added to a bundle behind him.

he was surprised you never noticed.

or at the very least, you didn’t mention it.

(you were completely oblivious).

when he gave it to you on the way back to stiles’ jeep, you smiled and gave him a hug that made him glad you didn’t have super hearing. his heart rate sky-rocketed.

“what is that?” stiles asked the moment you got out of the jeep at home, gaining scott’s attention as well. liam ran inside the second the jeep was parked, claiming he needed to use the bathroom.

you rolled your eyes, “flowers, obviously. liam picked them for me.”

stiles sputtered dramatically, “liam dunbar picked flowers for you? that’s cute.”

scott laughed it off after pulling a face at you, raising an eyebrow with a smirk. his silent way of teasing you just the same.

you shook your head. “stiles, stop. he was just being nice.”

“you like how nice he is, y/n?” he teased.

ignoring them, you walked past them and into the house. liam was in your living room, talking to the rest of the pack. distracted.

he looked up at the door opening and waved to you with a boyish, shy smile.

you smiled back and went upstairs to take care of the flowers. he never asked, but he later found out you tied the ends together and hung it up on your windowsill to keep them.

liam jogged over to you from across the field, stopping just short of in your face. “hey.” he smiled, saying nothing else.

you knew he liked you, and he knew you knew, but he didn’t know if you felt the same. he had confidence—always did—but it got even better after becoming a werewolf.

confidence in all but you.

he was never sure with you. how you felt, how he felt, what he should or shouldn’t do, what stiles would do if he acted on his feelings. nothing.

but he still continued to chase after you in a puppy-like way. maybe that was the werewolf in him, or maybe it was just liam.

either way, you adored it.

and you got equally as nervous around him, even if he couldn’t tell. you squeaked a small, “hi.”

scott watched the whole thing go down, ready to text stiles about it later.

another time, earlier that year, the pack was hanging out, trying to figure out issues with the dread doctors.

malia had just seen them when he was with tracy, and she was trying to explain what they looked like. she described as you drew as best as you could, letting her correct and tweak as you went.

while everyone was focused on that, liam was doodling on his own piece of paper.

nobody noticed, and he was thankful for that. he was making a small, messy drawing of you in that moment. your hair falling in your face, the drawing of the dread doctors, your fingers adorned with rings. all of the details he noticed.

he didn’t miss a single freckle.

“that’s not a dread doctor.” stiles stated flatly, looking over liam’s shoulder. liam flinched, crumbling the paper to hide it.

“what are you talking about?”

everybody could see through it. they could all guess what he was drawing.

and a few days later, when liam walked past you room, his eye caught on the drawing. flattened out and stuck to your corkboard.

he didn’t know that stiles teased you and made jokes for hours when he saw, but he saw that he made an impact in some way. and a bonus was you clearly didn’t think it was creepy, or it wouldn’t be displayed.

[takaraphoenix]

I've been watching Teen Wolf for ten years now and only this month learned that Stiles and Scott are supposed to be sixteen in season 1/2. That's. That is so wild to me I always fully believed them to be 15, never questioned or doubted that.

And the reason for that is Allison.

It was made out to be such a big deal that she turned 17. That it made her "older" because she'd been held back due to all the moving around.

So, the obvious and logical conclusion for me was that Stiles and Scott thus must be 15 years old when she turns 17.

Because this? Them being 16 when she turns 17? Makes absolutely no sense?

Every 16 year old will turn 17 next! That is how numbers work! So why would this "yesterday I too was 16" year old girl act like it's weird or makes her ""older"" that she... turns 17?

The only way this would have qualified for being a big deal was if she was actually a year older than them due to being held back and not like a few months?

This is just so weird to me I have no idea what to do with that. Why would she act like she is a freak of nature, girl you are nine months older than Scott and Stiles. That's not even a full year. Absolutely unhinged behavior to fuss about that like you're an old spinster.

[curses-of-the-void]

Where The Shadow Ends

Fandom(s): Teen Wolf

Wordcount: 1074

Warning(s): Age gap, mentions of abuse/neglect, sacrifices mentioned, spoilers

Summary: Derek comes to check on her after the events that unfolded.

The scent of petrichor and decay surround her as she lay among crip leafs, her breath visible puffs in the air as she stares at the sky above her, stars twinkling in the dead of night, blurred by tears that are drying, sticky on her face. Deucalion was finally defeated, Jennifer was gone, Noah was safe, Chris was safe, Melissa was safe, her mom was safe- things were good. But, Gods and Goddesses above was she tired. She sacrificed herself with Scott, Allison, and Stiles, to save all four of their parents, leaving her feeling this darkness staining her soul, at every moment of every day, and if it wasn't for her friends, it would cripple her.

The crunch of footsteps make her suck in a sharp breath, reaching up to wipe her face as she sits up, pausing at the sight of the Beta standing a few feet from where she lay, hands shoved into the pockets of his leather jacket. His green gaze is piercing in the light of the moon, not quite full but reaching it, lips set in a firm line as she brushes some hair from her face. As if her movement spurns him into moving, he crosses to her, settling on the ground beside her, one arm thrown over his knee as he looks out at the forest that lines the back of her house.

"Why?" He asks, and she swallows thickly, looking away, already knowing the question he's referring to.

"Because... if I could help, then I should. She's my mother." Derek sighs at that, turning his head to look at her as she shrugs. "It's not like she abused me... she just ignored me. She didn't know how to cope after my dad's death." She pauses, looking up at the stars again. "I think she blamed more for it, because I survived the crash, and he didn't." She wraps her arms around her knees, drawing them to her chest.

"You corrupted your soul for her, only for her to act like she's terrified of you." She snorts, reaching up to palm her eye.

"I use magic Derek."

"And I have fangs and claws. Which of these do you think should cause her more concern?" He pauses, shaking his head. "Nevermind... I didn't come to fight." He looks at her. "How're you doing? How're... How are we doing?" The reference to the unspoken tension between the two of them makes her cheeks flood with heat, looking away as her heart skips in her chest.

"I dunno." She admits, and Derek frowns, looking away as he clenches his jaw, flexing it back and forth as he grinds his teeth. "Look, Derek, we both knew things wouldn't- couldn't- progress between us, at not while I'm still in school. But, you kinda slept with and sided with a murderer." She points out. "Again."

"You can't hold Kate against me. I didn't do that as an adult." He states, looking over at her. "I was a kid." She raises a hand and his brow furrows. "You're 18, about to be 19."

"Just because I'm a year older than Scott and Stiles, doesn't make me not a kid."

"Stop. Just stop." Derek reaches out to grab her hand. "You've made your point. I just... it's different. We're different." Silence lingers between them as she stares at him, at his hand, holding her own, warm and callused, and it makes her feel so much more than if Scott or Stiles or Isaac had grabbed it.

"I-I-" Derek seems to notice, because he pulls her to him, and she shifts to her knees, letting him all but pull her into his lap as he trails his other hand up to cup her face, thumb stroking her cheek.

"You were crying." A surprised laugh echoes in the clearing, escaping her as she nods, his brow furrowing again.

"Tends to happen when emotions come to a head. I needed a good cry." She admits, and Derek knows how hard that is for her to admit, to him, to herself, to anyone. She doesn't like to admit needing to be vulnerable, to anyone. "Can I have my arm back?" She asks, still stretched out with her wrist caught in his hand, pulled over his lap, straddling one of his legs. He releases her as she brings her arm to her chest, cradling it as she feels the burn of his touch lingering on her skin, his other hand is still stroking her cheek as she looks down, rocking back to sit back on her knees. "What're you gonna do now?" She asks quietly, and Derek looks down as he drops his hand from her cheek.

"Take Cora back to South America. That's where the rest of our remaining family is."

"Oh." She shifts, scooting further away as he flexes his hand, like he's trying to prevent himself from reaching for her again, to pull her back in his close proximity. "I-I see." She rubs her cheeks, as though trying to get heat back into them, but secretly trying, in vain, to wipe his touch from her skin. His touch still on her skin, seared into her cheek like a burn, a matching sensation gripping her chest. "W-Will you come back?"

"No." He visibly hesitates. "I... I don't know. Maybe? I have things that I have to do. Things that I need to do." He admits, and she bites her bottom lip, tugging at the chapped skin as he reaches out, lifting her face to look in her eyes, thumb tracing her lip to pull it from between her teeth. "Yes." He finally says, determination in his voice. "Yes. I will come back." He brushes a stray hair from her face, leaning closer as her breathing hitches. "I'll be back for you." His promise makes her heart skip another beat, before he presses a kiss to her lips, making her hum in surprise, leaning in to kiss him in return. "I'll come back for you." He promises again.

"You better." She murmurs, and then he's gone, the cold air surrounding her burns, the lingering touch and taste of his lips makes her skin sting blissfully. "Don't forget about me." She whispers into the air.

[downworldersnshadowhunters]

thinking about teen wolf and the ages for the characters really prove how shit jeff Davis is at storytelling. Peter and Derek both being in high school at the same time with Peter only being a few years older than Derek but somehow Peter is Malia's dad but Malia's the same age as Stiles and Scott who are like 16-17 in season one but Derek is only suppose to be a few years older than Scott and Stiles, if Scott and stiles were like 10-13 when Derek and Peter were in high school that means that Peter had a 10-13 year old daughter when he was in high school, I'm assuming Peter was in his senior year which at his oldest he would have been 18-19 so did he have a kid at the age of nine????

[azarisage]

So here’s a snippet of a fic I’m working on! It’s a teen wolf fic that’s kinda a fix it? It’s definitely set after the whole Kanima thing, but Erica and Boyd are alive, Peter’s back from the dead, and Derek’s still Alpha. I’ve been drooling over the idea of What if EVERYONES PARENTS FOUND OUT?????

Like, only the Sheriff and Melissa knew??? Come on! It would be sO much fun to watch them all flip out while Stiles tries to coral a bunch of adults and two Hales into playing nice long enough to solve there freaking problems!!!! Through Chris in the mix? Glorious!

Anyway, I’m calling it Not so False Alarm, and it’s currently a wip on AO3, so we’ll see how this goes🫠

“No!,” Stiles shouted. A growl much like the wolves he spent so vary much of his time around rumbling out of his throat. “None of you are going after anything,” He stated firmly

”I don’t think you quite get it, you are mine. The Pack, is Mine. And no one touch’s what’s Mine without at least losing a hand in return.”

His tone was hard and his gaze was cold and angry, and it was almost frightening to see Stiles, laughing, joking, goofy, always smiling Stiles, with his ice cold murderous gaze turned towards them. Even though they knew he’d never hurt them.

But that was just the thing.

Stiles had called them his. And he would never hurt his people.

But someone, or something, had taken and hurt a rather large amount of his people.

And they were only now beginning to realize that to Stiles?

This kind of offense was absolutely unforgivable.

And the whiskey eyed boy was out for blood.

“Stiles, you just spent the last few hours ranting about how Scott and the other kids could be in immense danger, and you think we, their parents, are just going to sit back and watch you and your Werewolf buddies charge off into the night to go play hero? News flash son, we are the parents, and We will protect our children.” Noah cut in.

The other parents nodded in agreement, adding their own little tid-bits on how they were the adults, they should be the ones to rescue their kids.

But Wendy Martin made the unfortunate mistake of adding in her own comment of, " We, as the adults in this situation, will be able to handle it better."

The two ‘wolves, who stood only just behind Stiles, frowned deeply at this comment.

They themselves were adults, they were Werewolves for goodness sake, and they both could list quite a few times in which Stiles had been able to handle the supernatural far better than themselves. Countless times where, had it not been for Stiles, they would’ve been dead, Werewolf healing or not.

And to hear Stiles’ own father talk with such little faith about their human Pack member? About Stiles? Well that just didn’t sit right with them at all.

“I’m sorry, are you all suddenly forgetting that Stiles is far more familiar with this type of situation than all of you?” Peter huffed.

“He has been dealing with your idiotic children for years now, saving their asses, finding out everything we’ve ever needed to know through Google more often than not, and Lord knows how he manages that! So before you all go assuming things about this situation, how about we ask the guy who’s saved our lives almost a dozen times, half the time on his own.”

Stiles was slightly surprised at Peters animosity on his behalf, but the more he thinks about it, the more he thinks it makes sense. Peter had always hated how the puppies would dismiss his ideas or plans, but he never really got the chance to go off on them because Stiles had always brushed it off, they were a group of teenagers, they were doing their best, but surrounded by human adults? That was another story.

They should at least be listening to the person who had the most information on how to safely go about the situation.

But still….

“I killed you.” He stated coolly, his questioning gaze turned toward the older Hale.

“Yes, by lighting me on fire if I’m remembering correctly, which I am.” He said, giving the younger a sly smile, completely ignoring the startled sounds coming from the adults around the room.

“But don’t worry, you’ve been forgiven, water under the bridge and all that.” He said, giving a dismissive shrug that was far too amused for the situation.

“Oh good, ‘cause I wasn’t gonna apologize anyway.”

“I never expected you to. To be honest I probably would’ve done the same.” He returned with a surprisingly genuine smile despite the topic of conversation.

“Alright, have we finally decided to not do anything stupid?” Stiles asked hopefully.

“Hold on, my son what?” Noah sputtered.

Some of the others began protesting the attempted topic change along with the Sheriff, and Derek sighed.

“Did you really have to bring that up Stiles?”

He was giving the teen his usual Disappointed eyebrows look, and Stiles just groaned.

“What? It’s not like he stayed dead anyway! And besides, that was years ago, we get along much better nowadays, so the chances of it happening again are really vary slim, right Peter!”He turned to give the older Hale his most innocent look, which both had learned long ago was the absolute biggest lie. Stiles could talk circles around most people, and had learned surprisingly quickly how to affectively lie to Werewolves, Stiles was a silver tonged snake when he wanted or needed to be.

“Stiles is right nephew, we’re far less prone to tearing each other apart, we’ve even been known to hold a conversation or two when the mood strikes us. I believe just the other day we had coffee at that one café Stiles likes while we went over that old book of elementals.”

Derek just rolled his eyes at the two of them, while the others were just frozen in shock.

But before anyone else could add even more questions to the pile, Stiles just had to go and make things worse.

“I will say though, getting rid of that bitch was one hell of a final act.”

Before he disappeared up the stares to grab his hidden bag of supernatural supplies, leaving the parents heads spinning, and Derek just shaking his head at the whole situation, Peter laughing madly at his favorite humans ability to cause chaos.

[buckybarnesss]

whose ready for the teen wolf birthday rant? @dear-massacre got me started on it.

in the tell allison turns 17 and she's prickly about it because she's older than everyone else by a year.

except that she isn't.

usually sophomores are 15/16 years old. i was 15 years old when i started my sophomore year of high school whereas my best friend turned 16 at the beginning of the school year. she was one of the oldest in our class and i was one of the youngest. this is the normal range for sophomores.

not so in teen wolf.

in season 4 lydia turns 18 years old which makes her birthday in season 2's party guessed her 17th birthday. this makes her only a handful of weeks younger than allison.

stiles's official birthday is april 8th which makes his birthday a few weeks after lydia's.

scott's 17th birthday is in september during 3a and malia would've turned 17 in november shortly after her return.

allison should've turned 18 in the tell for her to be a full year older than everyone. there's a lot more social shame in being an 18 year old sophomore that would've made her desire to keep it hidden make more sense.

so while they aged derek up two or three years from his pilot presentation from 19 due to, ahem, concerns they left everyone as sophomores when their ages reflect juniors in high school.

whatever i guess. it is what it is.

we can be more sad about how this is allison's last birthday.

[marcellasdiary]

Just found you and you're absolutely hilarious honestly. Desperately need more stuff about your teen wolf dr though. I'm on the floor with my mouth dry clawing at the carpet hyperventilating begging for a drop of whatever – that kinda vibe of the request

thank you anon i deeply appreciate it. just let me know what kind of things the people want to know and i'll answer

so heres some random lore / storytimes just for you. absolutely no order to this, im literally just talking. enjoy? maybe? hopefully?

my dr follows most of the plot of the show, i changed very little other than scripting out the major deaths. i did not get involved with the supernatural or even know i was a dragon until what would’ve been towards the end of "s2" and I was fifteen years old at the time. this could be a whole post on its own but i'll say drop some of it here: stiles saw me getting too close to isaac and erica and warned me to stay away. said i had no idea what i was getting into, which, fair. but i obviously didn’t listen. and the more he was giving me vague warnings, the more nosy i got. especially with how weird he scott and allison were acting all the time (like why are you yelling at me & lydia across a classroom, just not even trying to be inconspicuous??💀). now, scott and derek knew SOMETHING was up with me, they could tell that i wasnt the kanima, but that i was something supernatural even though i wasn’t aware of it myself at the time.

fast forward, i decide im gonna figure out wtf theyre up to and so i follow scott and stiles. (stalking? technically. god forbid a girl has a hobby) and ended up following them to the police station on just the wrong night. matt broke in, had the place on lockdown, decided i’d seen too much and tried to use jackson to kill me! yay!!! well clearly that didnt work out for him. dont get me wrong i was out for a while, but instead of waking up in a hospital room i woke up in an ANIMAL CLINIC in extreme pain with wings coming out of my back and scotts boss telling me that im something that shouldn’t even exist today. what a time! #memories.

speaking of deaton, on a lighter note; he has MANY pets, and specifically i think 4 cats. one time a few yrs ago i was having a panic attack at the clinic (again, yay) and he came out of nowhere and just asked me if i liked cats. to which i was like ???yes? and then he proceeded to hand me his phone and show me pics of his till i calmed down. very sweet and very funny looking back, he lowkey ipad babied me and that was my cocomelon.

the teen wolf only child epidemic is only partly real in my dr. i posted something the other day about how erica has a younger sister named maxine who looks a lot like max from ginny & georgia, but heres some other people with siblings that aren't "canon" that i can think of right now; mason has the biggest family out of anyone. he has like, 6 siblings i think?? the only ones i know are his two little sisters. their twins, and i think like seven years old atp. they are soooo cute. the rest of his siblings are all older and moved away so i've never met them or maybe have like once. nolan also has a little sister, and corey has an older brother.

me and malia have always been cordial and friends but we didn't know how similar we are until recently and idk how we didnt realize sooner. our families are pretty equally complicated. we are both adopted and raised by single fathers. both of us have crazy birth fathers who SHARED A ROOM in eichen for a short time?? (didnt even know this until fairly recently) and we both have a parent who tried to kill us at some point! thank u desert wolf thank u alexandre lovell for the bonding material. malia tate it seems i've become quite fond of you there are no sexual urges or desires you come to me as a friend i once picked apples with in papas orchid.

the best way i can describe her and theos dynamic nowadays is that they remind me of this video. thats all.

lets talk about junior yr. derek somehow ended up in mexico and now we have to go get him. cool, most normal day in beacon hills. are we gonna get plane tickets and fly like normal people? oh absolutely not, where would we even get the money for that. so what are we gonna do? drive 40+ hours in a few cars.

this was truly a nightmare (it was lowkey fun). being stuck in stiles stilinskis jeep for that long may be a dream for some, but not for me im afraid. especially when its 90 degrees and his air conditioning gives out half way through your trip and youre crammed between two people in the backseat. i may be resistant to the heat myself but i am not resistant to other people SWEATING!!! i was sitting between isaac and kira, we didnt know kira that well atp. but we definitely were well acquainted by the end of the trip. a lot of it was spent having very serious 8ball & uno games on imsg, and me and isaac trying our best to piss off stiles while kira laughed (maybe uncomfortablely). good times. but seriously whoever’s idea it was for us to sleep in the car / camp outside instead of just going to cheap motels or something. i am still holding a grudge against them.

i feel like someone is always just in the living room of me and theos apartment. neither of us even question it at this point. it started by me giving liam a key while i was moving in (hes my brother in my dr), and then sofia asked for one so i gave her and nolan one (they are my.. in werewolf terms.. gulp. betas of sorts, if you will. EW!!!) i will talk more about sofia here someday. but anyway, i guess they all decided our place is the new hang out spot. at first me and theo were like can you guys idk maybe get out of here?? but like i said honestly at this point ive given up. if you cant beat em join em.

now, why not use dereks empty loft upstairs or go to scotts house where alec is literally living to hang out? i dont know, but oh well. i say stay but dont eat my food and leave when i want to go to sleep. might start asking them for rent money.

ok ill talk about my j*b. me and isaac have a…. p*dcast. I KNOW. WE ARE SO ANNOYING. think peak emergency intercom when they were funny and actually cared about their job. thats our vibe. and i stole the name from here, classic shifter move what can i say. so in a way this dr is basically a niche fame dr as well.

i'd been making youtube videos here and there since i was like 12 and he started posting on tiktok the second it was a thing. we both gained somewhat of a following on our own accounts before we even met and then started the podcast in 2023. does any of our following know that we spent a good i'd say 80% of the time outside social media fighting for our lives in high school? no. and i'd like to keep it that way. thank you magical scripting. however despite my career, I REFUSE TO EVER MOVE TO LA!!!! they cannot convince me to move to that evil place. i'll take my supernaturally cursed town instead. erica also is an influencer in my dr but shes more of a model (as she should be) than a content creator like me and isaac.

on the topic, yes, watching edits of yourself is literally so fun, it is a bit narcissistic but what can i say you would do it too. and its so funny the way people act when they see theo in the background of one of my videos or tiktoks. got ppl acting like its a bigfoot sighting.

that is all for now.. but like i said, ask and you will receive 🙏 i will try to put aside my gatekeeping tendencies

[novasillies]

Wip Whenever

this WAS meant to be a WIP Wednesday posted on an actual Wednesday but the tumblr gods didn't let me save the damn post. so here I am like two weeks later finally posting it

thank you SO much for the tag @patolemus <333 I'm pretty sure I've got a few tags backlogged from people since I haven't been writing as much lately so consider this a late response to any and all tags I've ever received at all

Here's a snippet from chapter 16 of Third Time's the Charm: 'La Iglesia' :)))))))

He couldn’t do it. The Jeep had only been parked at their apartment complex for maybe two and a half of the ten months they’d lived there so far because Stiles hadn’t been able to even go back to the school in fear of seeing it, let alone driving it. Now, in the backseat, exactly as it had been ten months ago, the grimoire sat abandoned. Untouched. Unmoved. It was the one thing Stiles could admit was not fine. What had happened to his mom. How he was handling it. How it had happened. None of it was fine. And guilt was far from unfamiliar to him, but it was so smothering and loud whenever he looked at that book, that car, anything to do with her at all, that he couldn’t hear himself think. All he could do was mourn her voice in his head, and her cruelty, and love.

That grimoire was not something he could touch. Not yet. 

So, they called Scott.

Such a sweet thing was Scott. A brilliant reminder of the past. Fluffy-haired and pink-cheeked, somehow still starry-eyed after everything and so full of magic. It shouldn’t have been as surprising as it was. Stiles hadn’t thought Scott had any sort of spark but, then again, he was a True Alpha somewhere else. That was more magic than Stiles was capable of. It was good magic. Stiles’ power, his very heart, was born from chaos, wasn’t it? Scott’s was born from goodness. He’d followed Stiles into the woods out of goodness, he’d never taken a life out of goodness, he’d grown his power out of goodness. And, here, he was a vision of what that Scott could’ve been if Stiles hadn’t brought his chaos into his life. He was still joyful, and youthful, and living as loudly and happily as he possibly could. Like he was still a child. And he was. Allison may have just turned eighteen, but she was a year older. Scott was only barely seventeen. He was a child. Stiles had taken that from the both of them, a long time ago. But not here.

Here, Stiles had done good. 

Here, Scott and Allison were still alive and disgustingly in love with the Nogitsune swimming around the Bermuda Triangle or the wreck of the Titanic. Now, he got to stand back one more time to let Scott save the day, and save her. 

It had been far more than ten months of pretending Derek’s face didn’t trip him up with just as much nostalgia as the rest of them. It was still different. But it still happened. And, now, with the Deadpool and Liam Dunbar creeping back up on him like a mouthless bounty hunter with an axe, stood in those woods, looking right at Derek, he could remember him so clearly. He could remember what the Deadpool had ultimately meant for him. Peter, and Kate, and La Iglesia, and Braeden, and control, and evolution, and walking away. 

A knot formed in his throat. He swallowed it down. And, as Derek turned his head to give him a small smile, Stiles had to look away, back at Allison and Scott holding hands across the Nemeton.

He wasn’t sure when it happened – a bad, terrible, horrible thing – but he had a sneaking suspicion it had something to do with Derek’s hand finding its way to his shoulder and squeezing. That weight. The memories of resting his own hand on that Derek’s shoulder, of squeezing his arm tight as Liam almost killed them both in the back of the prison van Braeden was driving, of holding his face in his hands as Kate’s wolfsbane bullet almost killed him, of teasing, joking, flirting—

A damned hand on his shoulder was enough to break the universe. 

Well over a year ago, Stiles was still violet. He was lavender. Periwinkle. Orchid. Amethyst. He’d ran through the rain for miles, racing through the preserve on aching feet and shaking with rage, fear, hatred, determination. He’d slammed the grimoire down on the Nemeton the second he saw it, flipped through soaked pages until he found the one He had pressed against his chest. Derek had shown up just as he finished the incantation, caught up in some insane love-blind moment of psychopathy. At least it’d seemed like it at the time; maybe he had a little bit of sense, but he still left his entire life behind to follow Stiles to the lowest point of said life. Dumb. Stupid. A tear falling to the Nemeton had been the final piece of connection it had needed to do its job. All the violet and lavender and periwinkle and orchid and amethyst had been so blinding, Stiles almost hadn’t noticed Derek throwing himself into it. Then Kate had been there. And it had all gone horribly, horribly wrong. 

It looked similar when it went wrong this time. Though wrong in a different way. Not too different. Scott leant back, still holding Allison’s hands, twisting his face up in confusion and turning to Stiles as the place was swallowed up by a bright red light. Flickers – shimmers, almost – of sharp violet bursting through like sunlight through frosted glass, reaching out, consuming.

Stiles had yet to learn to think before throwing himself into potentially life-threatening situations. In his defence, Derek did it, too.

oouuugh this chapter is very precious to me.

thank you again for the tag - I can't remember who the hell I normally tag on these so no pressure tags @dontcallpanic and (sending it back) @patolemus and as usual anyone who wants to share <3333333

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[wheredidhiseyebrowsgo]

Thank you so much for this account! It has helped me to find a lot of cool stuff ❤

Can you help me find some long sterek fics that have minimal to no sex scenes that focus more on character development? For reference Home by TheTypewriterGirl and Actions Speak Louder than Words from isthatbloodonhisshirt are like, my favourite sterek fics.

Thank you so much you ve been amazing!

I think so.

Find A Way by LLN3dseestheLight

(11/11 I 25,198 I Mature)

Kate Argent came back to Beacon Hills and slaughter the Pack. Only Stiles and Lydia survived for the moment but thanks to Peter Hale they have a way to change that...by doing something very stupid.

A Time Travel spell... If it works... And it does in a way... but it also sent them to another reality as well.

Not only does Stiles have to deal with an alive Hale family, a really weird Beacon Hills, but also with a nineteen year old Derek Hale-who dreams of a world where his family died in a fire-and where he knew Stiles and Lydia! Stiles can deal with that. What he can't deal with is the fact Derek for some reason can't keep his shirt on! So Troublesome.

Lydia is having her own problems-Parrish is all but mated to Laura Hale so any plans of rekindling what she almost had with him are out. So she wonders if she should take a chance on Derek's mysterious older brother, Damon Hale?

The twilight in your eyes by BoomerangChicken

(12/? I 27,056 I Mature)

Derek narrows his eyes.

"You're... from the future?"

Scott misses the faint fond-exasperation that usually comes over Derek's face when he and Stiles come to him asking for help (now his face is all angry-eyebrows and that "quit wasting my time, I have important werewolf business to attend to" expression)

The older man jerks his head towards Stiles.

"You from the future too?"

"Oh no, I'm just here for moral support."

 ----

Scott is stuck in the past, but with help from his best friend (and a few friends who don't actually know him yet) he intends to make a better future for his pack, and ensure that a certain surly werewolf clan gets a little vengeance while he's at it.

Twice And For All by novasillies

(39/? I 141,063 I Teen)

“Derek,” he said despite himself. The werewolf’s eyes sharpened. Scott gave him a distressed look.

“Do I know you?” He asked tensely, and Stiles grinned in return.

“Oh, no,” he answered, “Not yet.”

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In which a well-timed conflict between the magic of the Ghost Riders and Stiles' spark sends him back to the day Scott got bitten. Stiles pointedly changes nothing, and so God complexes, needlessly complex romantic drama, and hilarity ensue.