#Zombie Tyrion

[swordmaid]

i am wide awake thinking about that post canon jb au again when I should be sleeping …!!! such is the nature of the jbrainrot…

[makerkenzie]

As for Tyrion humiliating Ser Alliser Thorne in front of the court...

He disliked Thorne already based on their interactions at Castle Black. When Ser Stickinthemud shows up at court with a tale of dead men walking and no evidence but a rotted, inanimate hand, Tyrion's not about to jettison his credibility by taking Thorne seriously.

In this environment, especially for Tyrion, it's either humiliate or be humiliated. He doesn't trust Ser Alliser to tell him the truth, he has to wonder who's setting him up for embarrassment, and even then he still has some thoughts about what's beyond the Wall.

And then even with that dynamic with Ser Alliser, Tyrion still rustles up some men to send to the Watch.

Whether Tyrion would resort to "WHAT IF the Snow Zombies come back?" as an argument against splitting the kingdom---in a meeting behind closed doors---is debatable. It's also beside the point. I wouldn't draw any hard conclusions based on his treatment of Ser Alliser.

"if your ears heard anything but insults" is especially revealing of Tyrion's mindset.

So if that's my biggest mistake, then: okay!

[jonsnowunemploymentera]

I’ve been rereading AGOT and this is how I’d summarize Jon Snow’s entire arc chapter by chapter

Jon l - Local teen bastard has a big realization that he has no social status while attending a royal party. He bursts into tears and goes to sulk in a corner.

[Interlude] Arya I - Local elementary schooler has an awakening about the unfairness of feudalism. She joins her aforementioned teen brother as they sulk in a corner.

[Interlude] Bran II - Elementary-age boy worried that his moody teen brother is sulking in corners far too much. He then has a terrible accident, which is a precursor to him sulking in corners as well.

Jon II - Local moody teen realizes that one should not make rash, life altering decisions while drunk. Now realizing that he has signed up for his local JROTC, which is a lifelong commitment to a frozen penal colony, he sulks around multiple corners as he says goodbye to several family members.

[Interlude] Tyrion II - Florida man makes fun of moody teenage military recruit who has just now realized that he has fallen victim to untruthful feudalist military propaganda. He laughs as the teen proceeds to sulk in a (fiery) corner.

Jon III - A local moody teen is forced to check his privilegeᵀᴹ after behaving in an appalling manner towards his fellow army recruits. Lonely, depressed, and homesick, he proceeds to sulk in a corner for a few days, but manages to make a few friends nonetheless.

[Interlude] Tyrion III - Perpetually drunk and annoying know-it-all Florida man strikes an unlikely friendship with a moody teen who has a tendency to sulk in corners due to issues making friends.

Jon IV - Local moody teen makes a new friend during JROTC training. Said friend is bullied for his exceptionally large frame, which makes for a rather poor soldier, but the moody teen stands up for him in front of the entire army base. The bullying eventually stops due to his efforts. Later, the two boys go to sulk in a corner, bonding over their shared sense of insecurity and rejection.

Jon V - Local moody teen finds out that his new bff is flunking JROTC. He proceeds to sulk in a forest, but still thinks of a solution to save said friend. Spoiler: he is successful and his friend graduates just fine.

Jon VI - Local moody teen graduates JROTC, but as a junior officer which is not at all what he wanted. He very angrily sulks out in the open, throwing a massive fit while he’s at it, until it is pointed out to him (much to his embarrassment) that this post will directly put him in the line of command.

Jon VII - Local moody teen learns that his beloved father has been imprisoned on grounds of treason. Incensed, he attacks a senior officer who makes fun of the situation. He is placed on house arrest by the army commander, which gives him plenty of time to sulk in a corner. However, his sulking is cut short when zombies attack the army base and he has to save the commander.

Jon VIII - For his bravery while fighting a zombie, local moody teen is gifted a special magic sword. He sulks about it because it should’ve been his father’s sword he’s getting. He is also conflicted because while he has already said his vows and bound himself to the penal colony, he still wants to go aid his family which is now on the brink of war after his father’s execution. Unable to do much else, he has no other choice but to go around sulking in several corners.

Jon IX - Local moody teen makes the foolish decision to dip out of army school to join his family that has gone off to war. He broodily decides to help his brother enact revenge for his father’s murder. However, he is unable to get very far because his friends catch up to him (with the help of his equally moody pet wolf) and is ultimately convinced to go back. Once he returns, the army commander gives him a good talking to and tells him that it’s time to grow up go on a real mission. This local teen has been looking forward to this the entire time, but he wants to go aid his family. He is forced to make a heartbreaking decision. Ultimately choosing duty over love, he has no choice but to make his way towards the north and sulk in whatever corners he will come across beyond the wall.

[lord-armitage]

ASOIAF Characters Ranked of How Likely They Are to Survive A Horror Movie

Robb Stark - 4/10

The likeable, grounded voice of reason comes up with the best strategies but delays things by ignoring Grey Wind's instincts. Will die either as a heroic sacrifice during the climax or at the end of the second act to ramp up the stakes.

Cat Stark - 0/10

Dead before the story began. She's the reason why the Starks decided to have a fresh start in a new town living in that creepy old mansion. Maybe her possessed ghost will enter the story, but she's already gone.

Ned Stark - 1/10

"No, children, this house is definitely not haunted. What you are hearing at the end is just the floorboards settling. There's no such thing are ghosts or monsters. Maybe we should take your direwolves to the vets as they keep barking at nothing during the night?"

Sansa Stark - 5/10

Could go either way with Sansa. She'll either be the girl who dies first if the scriptwriter is a misogynist, or the final girl if not. Either way, she's getting absolutely drenched in blood.

Ayra Stark - 10/10

Of course Ayra surives. There isn't even a question that Ayra Stark won't survive a horror movie.

Daenerys Targaryen - 10/10

Dany is literally the final girl in her own story, so she's the final girl here now. There has literally never been a character created with more final girl energy than Dany.

Tyrion Lannister - 2/10

Gets way too confident in his intellectual ability to defeat the monster. Will have a moment where he thinks he's defeated it by chanting something out of an old book, but doesn't spot check to make sure it's really gone and ends up getting killed.

Jon Snow - 9/10

The quiet one who knew exactly what was happening right from the start because he trusts Ghost's instincts. While everyone else is arguing about the monster being real, he's getting weapons. Fully aware of what genre he's in.

Theon Greyjoy - 0/10

Theon was born to be the drunk frat bro who dies first in a horror movie by doing something insanely stupid, like opening the door for the zombies or thinking that he can fight the monster himself. He would also be a character to purposefully hide his infection/bite/whatever, thus dicking over the other characters.

Asha Greyjoy - 8/10

She knows that she's in a horror film and takes it all in her stride. Most likely character to quip. If she doesn't survive, then she'll be killed in the big climatic action scene at the end, weakening the monster enough so that the last person standing now has a chance to defeat them.

Stannis Baratheon - 0/10

Authority figure who angrily refuses to acknowledge the strange goings on in this town and refuses to do anything about it as "ghosts aren't real." Is one of the first ones to die.

Loras Tyrell - 10/10*

*Loras survives by sheer technicality. Ten years ago he would have been killed for sure but now the writers are worried about being cancelled for using the bury your gays trope, so instead of killing him they write him out of the story so it doesn't technically count.

[atopvisenyashill]

i love how the magic works in asoiaf i really do, i love how it builds throughout the narrative, and it’s there in subtle, quiet ways in the background, i love the way so many “political storyline” people find themselves interacting with magic and even capable of magic! not even just “tyrion interacts with greyscale which is a disease that is definitely part magic” but like, Jaime having a weirwood dream simply bc he was sitting on a stump. Cersei trying to find a crony and then finding a MAGICAL crony in Qyburn. Catelyn very much being a follower of the Seven but having this almost universalism approach of “well who am i to say that other people’s gods don’t ALSO exist when i literally see magic happening before my eyes, i just don’t gotta pray to them tho” as she moves through her story of dinosaur puppies & shadow murderers & zombies. brienne is very involved with the politics and YET her story is introduced with the magical slaying of renly and funny enough she is currently ENDED with the magical resurrection of catelyn! literal, actual magic happening before the eyes of everyone around even as the maesters insist there’s no magic anymore.

[daenystheedreamer]

Who would you list as the most famous theorists that almost any serious asoiaf fan would know about (I’d define serious as in at least knowing the night lamp theory but you’re free to define it however you want)

not sure if you meant theorists or theories! if its theorists im not the best person to ask this! i dont engage much with theory crafting</3 it's fun but its just not winds!!! plus a lot of theorists are sexist nerds who hate women and dont understand narrative</3

if its theories, this reddit comment sums up most of the ones i'd recommend to fans who want to dip their toes into hardcore fan discussion, this forum thread has a load more and well organised, and AWOIAF has a list of theories.

i'd also include theories about hardhome, which a lot of fans new to the fandom forget about since the characters are so good you forget about the setting if that make sense. also theories about the others eg starks made them or that theyre possibly a sentient and rich culture and not brainless zombies/pure evil.

i think its important to get your head around all the r+l=j knockoffs. if only so you can inoculate yourself and recognise what have evidence (maybe 0.1% of them) and what is horseshit. the stupid ones id include are: tyrion time travelling fetus, secret identity theories involving arthur dayne/euron greyjoy/howland reed/daario naharis, varys is a merman (real).

[horizon-verizon]

stark stans are something lol "GRRM decided to make House Stark the focus of his main novels and give them the most emotional and iconic moments of the entire books"

I had to read that targs aren't important to the story because they don't have POV in the books like what? dany's POVs are boring, when you have bran's POVs lol It would be so interesting if in the end, the Starks weren't the heroes this fandom thinks they are imagine the plot twist lol

Rhaegar & the Targs haunts the entire narrative, outside of Dany. Cersei (Rhaegar), Tyrion (the dragonriding), Ned (Rhaegar, more thinks of, not "haunts"), Sansa (Naerys & Aemon), Jon (Daeron), Aerys I (various peasants and I'm sure Tywin), etc. the fact that High Valyrian was considered the "literary" language to be used in "high" art and study in the seven Kingdoms. There are still songs sung of Targaryen conflicts, affairs, arguments, etc by bards looking for a room at whatever lord. We got the criminalization of the right of the first night AND the rule of thumb/rule of six criminalizing severe wife-beating from Targaryen women. We have had a new, more accessible sept through the Sept of Baelor in Kingslanding due to a (zealous) Tagr. We got the Kingsguard through a Targ, Visenya, of which group/institution Ned Stark & many others use to criticize Jaime Lannister's action of killing Aerys II despite it being the best thing for everyone's survival. Valyrian steel swords are the most precious swords to have bc of their high craftsmanship, and the Free City of Qohor is one of the only places you can go to have your Valyrian steel sword reworked. The Doom is considered one of the--if not THE--most cataclysmic events in Planetos, forever changing the landscape surrounding the remnants, introducing new horrors and diseases like greyscale. People literally can't travel too close or risk a fatal disease or being taken by infected "zombies", if we take GoT's scenes for what they were, realizing the implications of what AWoIaF tells us. After the Valyrians are gone, we still have Essosi people speak Valyrian in whatever iteration, along with governments & systems of power along with the negative, slavery.

The first book starts with the sighting of the Others, and ends with Dany reawakening the dragons, of such will be used against the Others in the coming Long Night. And Dany's arc of learning how to use her dragons for good and abolition is intrinsic to the themes of the entire narrative.

The end of the Targaryen dynasty is also critical to overlay the very necessity of their existence, to show how deeply the Valyrians AND the Targaryens affected & shaped the world the Starks live in to be what it is. The lack of chapters from more than one Targ and the rejection of Dany as being both a positive or a legitimate POV character is sheer misogyny and stupidity; it is through that very absence we get a near poignant and urgent significance to the Targayrens' absence. Thus, the haunting.

[uluthrek]

my question is, does show (!) cersei know that magic is now a thing in westeros? does she know jon snow‘s been dead for an episode? does she know melisandre poops out shadow baby assassins on the regular? does she know beric dondarrion is on his twelfth or so life? or did they just bust out that wight at her in king‘s landing and expected her beautiful brain to process that information as normally and logically as it does with every other thing that happens to her? one minute tyrion tells her he‘s coming to king‘s landing and the next, her former bodyguard whom she believes to be dead lets a zombie loose in her fucking backyard that she has to share with several dead people and a motherfucking dragon.

jon: so you‘re seeing the importance of this now, i trust?

cersei, processing several eldritch horrors beyond het comprehension she‘s just had to see in the span of five minutes: uhm sure.

[fallsekings]

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[randomnameless]

The worse thing about Claude’s Sreng operation is the amount of Sreng people it’s going to get killed or no reason. Claude doesn’t actually care to help them out here, he’s using them as another set of bodies that he doesn’t care about so he can protect his friends and that’s all well and good but how do people not see how absolutely fucking mental it is to casually reignite a war you aren’t even invested in knowing damn well the side you’ve just spurred on is going to lose and is only there to be a distraction, not so you can take out their enemy, but so you can get one person and then leave. Arguably Claude killed more Sreng people doing that than he would have if he just attacked them because we’ve seen that if the odds aren’t in their favor, Sreng will retreat and they were even making progress.

I will say, it was smart of Claude not to attack because if he had attacked them while posing as Faerghus, they most likely would have surrendered because if Faerghus has warships then Sreng can’t fight them but if it’s just someone saying Faerghus is weakened? There’s only a chance for success there.

That's why I mentionned they were a distraction and/or fodder!

Dimitri notes how the Sreng forces are small, and usually, they shouldn't pose any problems, but this time, since Faerghus has to stretch its forces thin to fight the Alliance, Adrestia and Sreng, they're in a difficult situation.

Imo it's still a bad spot on Claude's track of "it's the church that is the cause of xenophobia" because he reignites and triggers this present battle between Sreng and Faerghus - but actually makes an enemy of both! What do you think Sreng's reply will be when they will realise Almyra/Leicester used them as fodder to waltz in Faerghus for their own gain, not giving a fuck about them being "allies"?

And even if the devs used something probably illegal to sniff before writing the Zahras chapters, can anyone seriously think Faerghus (especially Dimitri himself!!) wouldn't despise the Alliance/Federation at the end of GW? They became the Empire's lapdog and invaded to kill a refugee, while trampling and "rampaging" in cities for the very speficic reason to kill Helen of Troyes, re-igniting another conflict and banking on more deaths as "a distraction" to make a beeline to the capital, effectively killing people for no plausible reason (everyone knows the 'kill rhea so supreme leader will lose her goal to pursue the war' is completely bonkers, since her main goal has always been to MAGA!) to rekt Rhea.

It's like FE7, if someone attacked Pherae and killed Eleanora as an unwanted consequence of barging in the land, and trying to kill the Nini-siblings because surely Nergal will stop trying to start a continental war if the dragons he is looking for are dead.

(hint : it doesn't work, and the Nini sibs died for nothing because Nergal, by virtue of knowing where Arcadia is and ultimately growing stronger than Athos, could have "borrowed" dragons there, like say, Fa, to open the dragon gate for him?)

On the one hand, Claude's Sreng invitation is pragmatic, in a short term way - but on the other hand, it will create more issues for him afterwards, if we weren't in Nopes's magical world where nothing has consequences.

In a famous book series, a family is lauded for being "pragmatic" and killing a lot of enemies using under-handed tactics... but then we see in the following books how this family and their allies actually lose everything, partly because of that "pragmatic" move (Frey pies! + North bannermen uncharastically ally to rekt the Boltons! + Lannisters cannibalising themselves - Jaime cannot be the True knight Brienne is because of Tywin's pragmatic "move"', Cersei is Cersei, and Tyrion might realise too late that pissing on his family's name and legacy is less important than actual threats to the world, Zombie!Cat slaughtering people the Lannisters are supposed to protect indiscriminately and more popular support siding with her than with the crown...)

I won't call it karmic retribution, but there is a reason why in FE4, both Arvis and Travant are fucked when the 2nd gen pops up, even their own children are - Arvis's son (Saias who) dies and his line is erased from the throne (Julia will never sit), and Aerone is, uh, missing when Quan's line unites the peninsula (but Leif isn't like his dad so won't consider Thracians as savages).

The only route where he reaps what he sowed is Supreme Bullshit, where trying to turn against Supreme Leader, if all stars are aligned, costs him his life.

Now, I'm wondering, if Almyra's king is very sad (tm) when his favorite son goes missing, to the point where he signs things he doesn't understand and offers his navy on a whim, how would he react if Claude is killed in Nopes?

Shahid took a majority (?) of Almyran forces to mount his invasion of the locket, so without the military, and without a king (maybe he retires, or becomes even more useless than he is in Nopes? or is killed in a powergrab? and succession wars ensue?) what happens to Almyra? Does it fall to anarchy, or something similar to the Kingdom after Lambert's death, without a heir like Dimitri?

[ashedrose]

*breathes aggressively*

margaery and tyrion connecting in winterfell post ice zombies going byebye and not knowing how to navigate it all with everything being so uncertain and sansa just !!!!!! pep talking them separately into it bc she loves margaery and tyrion always showed her kindness and respect and that's all she could wish for her bestie to have !!!!!!!! and tyrion nudging tf out of pod to slide in her raven dm's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[atopvisenyashill]

Do you think Braime will happen? And how?

I’m fairly confident they will exchange i love you’s, i go back and forth on whether they fuck or not before he dies.

i’m admittedly fuzzy on the details. I think Brienne is going to Do A Scheme to get herself, Pod, and Jaime out of the LSH mess alive and feel hugely guilty over it - to be real clear, she's luring Jaime to LSH, then they're escaping with Pod, but they're not actually having a hand in LSH's end, that's Arya's job. Jaime, meanwhile, will just be happy they’re alive, and will probably think it’s funny Brienne convinced herself that he’d hate her for lying to him when she just saved him from a zombie horror. Likely they split again soon after this because Brienne gets wind of Sansa being in the Vale and goes to get her before someone else does (unsure whether she pulls a full on Dunk and gets to the tourney on time to see something happen and makes off with Sansa that way, or if she meets up with Sansa as Sansa is escaping and saves her, but either way, basically the moment the tourney happens, I expect some crazy shenanigans to go down, and Brienne to swoop in, save Sansa, and make for the Wall for safety from Jon Snow). If you're interested in those theories, please look at my ashford tourney theory tags and the ser shady i mean ser shadrich tags! Now, what is Jamie doing during this time?

fuck if i know bro and that's the honest truth! Because he is the valonqar and he’s gonna do some valonqarizing, obviously, but i don’t think it necessarily means he kills cersei and I know I'm in the minority opinion with that here BUT. None of the other prophecies are that literal and yet everyone assumes he's going to literally strangle her to death because Cersei thinks she's going to be literally strangled to death, and we are somehow taking Cersei at her word here even though she's wrong about literally everything, the same way every single person in this series who tries to guess prophecies are wrong about everything! But the imagery, you say, the dreams of strangling her, the stuff about his golden hand! Yeah, I'm well aware of that, I’m not saying he’s doing anything nice to her, i think he’ll have a hand (badum-ts) in her dying, probably enough to feel guilty over it too (plus whatever is happening with tyrion) but he’s not strangling her to death and I simply do not believe he's dying right after either. What is he doing? no idea. they’re at casterly rock and he uses the last of the conditioner and then he leaves. i have no idea and I think people who are insistent that he HAS to murder-suicide his way out of the story are overconfident af about that ending.

after that. lots of war. they’re twin fires side by side in the darkness. Jaime will knight Brienne after he valonqarizes. If they say i love you, this is where it happens. If they fuck, this is definitely where it happens. They will be at the trident - perhaps stuck there, perhaps sent there on a mission by whichever Starkling is ruling the North. They will fight there, and Jaime will fall, but not before seeing Brienne bravely keep fighting, and having hope that she will live.

And she will. Brienne will live, Brienne will rise high, Brienne will not abandon her oaths, because Brienne is the True Knight, the bastion of goodness and heroism that Jaime needed when he was a young man, and she will continue to give others hope like she has given to him by staying true to the ideals of being a knight if not the minutiae of the vows she's sworn.

Anyways, my point is that I believe Jaime is going to have a Vader-esque "tell Sansa and Arya you were right about me" ending and Brienne will be the Luke in this situation, picking up the saber sword of the man who knighted her. What's that post that's like, Anakin asks Qui-Gon if he's here to free the slaves and Qui-Gon says no, only for Anakin's own son to show up decades later and say no, I am the last Jedi and I am here to free the slaves. That's Brienne and Jaime, except there's kissing involved.

[worlds-best-sippycup]

ASOIAF CLASSPECT POST PART 2 - PARENT BOOGALOO

&lt;<part 1 part 3>>

NED STARK–

Hope: In the sense of belief in the system he inhabits and enforces. A lot of characters in ASOIAF consider ‘honour’ their main – or at least a big – motivation. But with the understanding that honour is fragile, ephemeral, bloody and not all that useful; why do characters stick to it? Well, the philosophy behind that is the source of a lot of these classpects. With Ned, it’s that he seems to genuinely believe in the system and not wish to reform it – not even understanding Arya all that much – which is pretty textbook Hope. With the idea of Hope being the trappings of romantic love, the infatuation and lust, if Ned’s a Prince – one who destroys in himself – of Hope, he removed Brandon – the dashing young lord – and introduced Jon into his household, removing the Hope part of his and Catelyn’s marriage, even if they eventually made a sort of Hope-less love. (Some people might also claim that there was some aspect of idealised Hope to his relationship with Robert. IDK if I believe that but. Y’know. It’s an argument.) And of course the system destroyed Ned as he destroyed with it all the way back in the beginning of AGOT.

CATELYN STARK – Witch of Blood, hell yeah!!!!!

A witch manipulates her aspect; blood is about family, yes, but also about bonds of all kinds. Family is so deeply important to Catelyn, and the forming of bonds – of blood pacts, of vows, of alliances – is the way she impacts the story. She changes the direction of Jaime and Brienne’s lives by their bond to her. She binds people to her will via sheer force of MILFness. Witches are so deeply powerful in their aspect, defining it like Heirs do, and so is Cat! Witches are also hurt by their aspects – Cat dies, in the end, because of her blood bond to Robb. (Except NOT, because she comes back AS A ZOMBIE because Catelyn Tully Stark doesn't care about your rules! And then convinces the BWB to help her, again, because Blood)

TYWIN LANNISTER – Sylph of Light. I’m so sorry, Aranea.

Light is about importance, relevance, narrative focus, and knowledge/awareness. It is here that that Light player ruthlessness (and pretend-smartness while being completely idiotic) come into play. Tywin’s actions brought House Lannister from ignominy to one of the most powerful houses in Westeros. Regardless of his intentions, he brought his whole family up there with him. He healed their fortunes from where Tytos had left it.

Light in the meta sense is about narrative importance. Tywin’s actions are what make Jaime, Cersei and Tyrion such important characters, by fucking them all up beyond belief.

LYSA TULLY – Thief of Heart.

I was tempted to say Page of Void, because - Lysa is irrelevant (voided) for so much of the story, yet the murder of Jon Arryn – the inciting incident – was her! So she’s also the perpetrator of the most important act of misdirection as per the narrative! Her lack of protection and care – things a Page needs – destroy her. But, Lysa is extremely selfish, even outside the Pages’ need for assistance; her life was centred around love, and the emotional self. The first chance she gets to have her own needs and commands obeyed – her courting suitors in the Eyrie – she leapt at and extended. She is determined to take Petyr, Sweetrobin and sort-of Sansa through their souls.

LYANNA STARK – Hope

She is the subject of Robert’s ridiculous lust and air-castle-making, as well as copious mythologizing from every corner (as the knight of the laughing tree, from Ned as his sister, from Jon as he dreams of his unknown mother, as the mother of Rhaegar’s Visenya). Regardless of whether she followed Rhaegar willingly or not, she – as seen in her reflection, Sansa – did believe in such things as truth and justice and songs, deeply so. Some would say a Lady Knight like her – beautiful and good and incredibly talented – could only be the result of great Hope.

Heir of Hope.

[waitingforwinterwinds]

A Clash of Kings - 17 TYRION IV (pages 238-253)

Tyrion lays some bait for the members of the small council as he tries to plan for the future of King's Landing and his family. Meanwhile, Alisser Thorne finally arrives, but his warning about the up coming Zombie Apocalypse is unfortunately delayed.

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"There are a hundred whorehouses in this city where a clipped copper will buy me all the cunt I want," Bronn answered, "but one day my life may hang on how close I've watched your louts." He stood.

"cunt" = 🥛

The sellsword grew more serious. "There's a moneylender from Braavos, holding fancy papers and the like, requests to see the ling about payment on some loan." "As if Joff could count past twenty. Send the man to Littlefinger, he'll find a way to put him off. Next?"

... Does Tyrion know how in debt the crown is? He should by this point shouldn't he? I can't decide if I should be reading this as "Tyrion knows how bad the debt is and that they can't pay it so they need to stall for time until they can" or "Tyrion doesn't know how bad the debt is but money and stuff is Not His Department and thus not his problem."

"Ser Alliser Thorne?" Of all the brothers he'd met on the Wall, Tyrion had liked Ser Alliser Thorne the least. A bitter, mean-spirited man with too great a sense of his own worth. "Come to think on it, I don't believe I care to see Ser Alliser just now. Find him a snug cell where no one has changed the rushes in a year, and let his hand rot a little more."

*slow clap* Excellent. And thus, because he did not like the messenger, he did not hear the message until there was no evidence left to prove it true.

That's part of the allegory though, isn't it. People don't want to hear the message, they want to hear it even less from people they don't like, as if the truth is depended on whether or not we like it.

Also, I keep going to type 'Allister' every time I have to spell Alliser's name.

"That's a handsome knife as well." "Is it?" There was mischief in Littlefinger's eyes. He drew the knife and glanced at it casually, as if he had never seen it before. "Valyrian steel and a dragonbone hilt. A trifle plain, though. It's yours, if you would like it." "Mine?" Tyrion gave him a long look. "No. I think not. Never mine." He knows, the insolent wretch. He knows and he knows that I know, and her thinks that I cannot touch him.

Valyrian steel + Dragonbone = 🥛🥛 (the weather's still atrociously hot, so it still counts for two. Stay hydrated all!)

Oh wow, Littlefinger really does own the entire economy from the top down. No wonder he's been getting away with embezzlement and tax fraud.

"- I've heard you grew close to the Tullys." "You might say so. The girls especially." "How close?" "I had their maidenheads. Is that close enough?"

-and then suddenly the floor and wall collapsed, dropping Petyr into the yard where the hares decided they'd had enough and staged an uprising, killing Joffrey and Petyr first with all the vengeance they could muster, calling on their ancestor: The Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog!

"She believes she has good reason. When I was her guest in the Eyrie, she insisted that I'd murdered her husband, and was not inclined to listen to denials." He leaned forward. "If I gave her Jon Arryn's true killer, she might think more kindly of me."

*looks directly at the camera like we're on The Office* just a sliiiight flaw in that plan, Tyrion. Very mall, true, but unfortunately, structural. Load bearing, even.

... You know, I do kind of like Varys in spite of myself. I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him, but he grows on me. Like a cute, giggly fungus.

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I see a lot of people complaining that Grrm has written Rhaenyra story with very misgonystic undertones, is this true ? I didn't read the book and rhaenyra in the show seems boring but she is fine i guess??

In the book Rhaenyra has a lot of very unpleasant traits, she's pouty and she's stubborn and petulant and she holds grudges and she's got that thing royals have where they think everything they do is great because they're royal. And she does some really bad things, far worse than stuff portrayed in the show (in the book Vaemond dies because Rhaenyra orders that Daemon sneak onto Driftmark and kill him and drag his body back so that she can feed it to Syrax), but so have a lot of Targaryens. The Targaryen family is filled with some genuinely good people, some genuinely bad people, and a lot of people who are a grey mix of both, it's why people find them so interesting. The misogyny in Rhaenyra's story isn't necessarily about how she was written as a person (I think the only developed adult woman from the Dance era who doesn't have sucky qualities is Laena), but the story she has. The story of a woman who was the eldest child of the king and explicitly made his heir, but had the throne stolen out from under her, tried to fight back and regain it, ended up dying horribly, and is remembered throughout history as being in the wrong for exercising her birthright. That's what people have a problem with, the fact that Westeros's one attempt at a ruling queen before the main series was given such a dismal story. The issue isn't how Rheanyra is written as a character. The issue is whether or not you approve of the fact that ASOIAF is a misogynistic world by design.

Take Tolkien or CS Lewis, for example. Great writers, great works, seminal and classic, etc. But it's not that hard to point to misogynistic elements in their works and in Middle-Earth and Narnia, due to the fact that these men were products of their time and had views on women and how involved they should be in stories, which is why in Narnia Santa gives a whole speech on how Susan and Lucy can't fight in the battle because They're Girls and why Lord of The Rings's important female characters can be counted on one hand. That's when author bias is bleeding almost unconsciously into the work, which isn't what George is doing. George is acutely aware of the misogyny his female characters are facing, and the misogyny of Westeros and other countries in that world, because he's doing it on purpose. Issues of discrimination are everywhere in ASOIAF, from the ableism Tyrion has to deal with the class discrimination we see through Arya's eyes to the slavery in Essos (even though it's significantly less race-based than it is in GOT, as George was basing it off the system of slavery from Ancient Rome/the Antiquity) to the misogyny suffered by all our female characters, seen especially poignantly in Cersei's chapters. These issues are vital to our understanding of the characters and why they do what they do, how the react the way they react and what drives them in the narrative. George is very clearly doing this on purpose, creating a world that's intensely patriarchal and misogynistic, and having a portion of that world's history include an attempt for a female ruler to reign in her own right only for it to be shot down is part of that. It's very purposeful and done under the express consciousness of the author.

But the problem people have is that this is a fantasy world. George based some of the story on history, specifically the Wars of the Roses in medieval England, but not all of it. And while some of the society is based on medieval England, this is a world with dragons and magic and zombies and shapeshifters. So why, exactly, does it need to be an intensely misogynistic society where women are constantly abused and suffering and child rape is the norm? What purpose, some people argue, does it actually serve the overall narrative, the story of people vying for the throne but eventually having to band together to defeat an existential threat to the entirety of humanity? Does the intensely misogynistic society of Westeros actually further any character arcs of major figures, particularly the Key Five of the story (Jon, Tyrion, Bran, Arya, and Daenerys) or is it largely just character justification and flavor text? Is there an actual point, narratively, to Rhaenyra being denied what was promised to her by rights, just because she's a woman? There are people who say no, and that it's largely there just because George wanted to be able to write some trauma porn about women and that it's emblematic of his own misogyny. And listen, I do not know George Raymond Richard Martin, I do not know whether or not he's sexist or what he includes because it's part of his worldbuilding or just because he finds it hot, or where that line blurs. And whether you agree with that take on misogyny in ASOIAF isn't really something I can answer for you, it's largely a personal preference thing that falls on a scale of your own making. I know some people who aren't bothered by it, I know people who are bothered by it enough that it's a turnoff of reading the series as a whole.

It's also that, again, Fire&Blood isn't a novel. It's a history book. This is largely flavor text to help us understand the wold of ASOIAF, it's not vital to our understanding of the main story and these characters aren't treated as characters, they're treated as historical figures that some might find interesting, and some might not. That's why there's a lot less detail and stuff for us to look into wrt to characterization than there is in the main series, which is an actual narrative. So you're not going to get as in depth a look into what drives these people in the source material, that's for the show now. So there are probably some people who look at how barebones Rhaenyra is, how most of what we see of her is largely bad qualities, and then compare to the incredibly well fleshed out male characters in ASOIAF like Tyrion, and view Rhaenyra as being misogynistically written. But we also know frighteningly little about a lot of male characters in Fire&Blood; Aegon the Conqueror is notoriously written to have very little actually known about what he was like as a person, because this is a history book and people's characters and thoughts and feelings aren't often recorded in historical chronicles (trust me, it can be so frustrating).

By and large, the issue just seems to be the fact that GRRM has misogyny playing such a big role in the story at all, and that's what "misogynistic undertones" means as it pertains to Rhaenyra's story, and whether or not you view that as valid is ultimately up to you. But I do hope this at least somewhat answered your question!