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steelbluehome Ā· 3 months ago
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Not that anyone asked, but I am not anti-Peggy Carter. I don't think that she and Steve had enough meaningful interaction to possibly be in love, but Peggy is a good character, with flaws. And I loved the Agent Carter series. But I do reblog posts that seem anti-Peggy in their support of Bucky. I am anti-Steggy, though I can believe that is possible that after Bucky's death it was probably easy for Steve to believe that his crush on a pretty girl, who was also crushing on him, might have seemed like a soft place to fall. I think that the emotional exchange before Steve goes into the ice is genuine, especially in that they do not say, "I love you." But for Steve to abandon Bucky in order to go back and live his life in the past with Peggy? No. Would not happen, did not happen.
I am not anti-Hayley Atwell, I'm not even sure what that is all about.
I'm not anti-Tony Stark. I think that the fact that Bucky was not responsible for the death of the Starks, can exist with the fact that Tony was so traumatised by actually seeing the murder of his parents, that he would blame Bucky and want to kill him, without either being in the wrong. Nor was Steve in the wrong to protect Bucky and fight for him. Steve was aware of who Bucky was before Hydra, and knew the difference between him and the actions of the Winter Soldier. Steve had only just gotten back in touch with Bucky and would certainly protect him. Also, everyone, please remember, the arc reactor no longer protected Tony's heart, it only powered the suit (IMan 3). Steve knew that. He was not trying to kill Tony. He only wanted to paralyze the suit as one would neutralize a weapon.
But I do sometimes reblog posts that are somewhat anti-Tony for their support of Bucky.
I am not anti-Robert Downey, Jr. I'm not sure what that is all about either.
But because of some things I have reblogged, some people think I am on their "side" of one of these things. Though I usually remember to state my position in the tags of a reblog. But, I thought I might as well put it put it out there.
So anyway, there it is. Thanks for reading.
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vicontheinternet Ā· 6 months ago
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Fandoms you couldnā€™t pay me to join even though I either really do like the show, did once or have been interested but for whatever reasons have been turned off by its fandom in no order
9-1-1 (did watch but fell off vapid fandom)
Buddie (no)
Bridgertom (was interested vapid racist fandom I find shonda Rimes to be very...)
Greys anatomy (did watch fell off vapid fandom with hints of racism)
Japril (I hate this ship with a passion mostly because their stans are annoying and turned me off)
Atla cartoon (comfort show vapid vapid fandom)
Anti legend of korra ( I have a love hate relationship with this show)
Driven (I do like them on a surface level but some of their fans can be intense) you will never get me to interact with driven content one Iā€™ve seen multiple post attacking musa for being with riven or or calling musa ugly (sheā€™s a cartoon character) or calling Darcyā€™s ā€œspellā€ a dubbing issue while that might be true atp Iā€™m over driven
Klaroline (jesus fucking christ sorry for using your in vain but this ship stans I once saw a fanfic that made caroline a original heretic and she was in the box instead of ester I'll give the points for originality but if they were to do a heretic bonnie was right there you know the wich that already had powers
Anti jegulus ( im not entering a fandom where the couple is written ooc to be together atp they are whole different characters) not trying to yuck someone yum
Sterek (these are some of the most annoying fanbase they don't even like these characters fr because rewrite them to make them so ooc that they are new characters. Why would stiles be in derek pack)
Stiles (I'm not going to lie I used to like stiles but his stans ruined him for me they were insuffible he could do no wrong in their eyes. All because he's a white snarky/sarcastic boy. Dont let write a crossover then they'll make him the most powerful being in the universe. Crossover with tvd/to he's loss mikealson crossover with supernatural hes either a Winchester that has demon blood also or an angel. They think that stile would be a better werewolf then Scott when everything in the show has told us that if he was the that had been the that had been bit his eyes would been blue by the end of season 1. And don't get me started on the friend subject)
The mcu (I used to love the mcu and watch every release but it became quantity over quality and its downfall for me was very sad)
Wanda maximoff and wandavision (I could make a whole video on the whole rollercoaster of thoughts I had on wanda and wandavision because like the mcu I liked both then I didn't. The decent of wandavision was more gradual with wandavision it was episodic to me it was a let down and didn't make sense while I thought Elizabeth Olsen acting was good the writing was not it find out that the writers were swayed not to look at the source material for the show because kevin fegie didn't want them to be influenced although that's the whole point because you're making a supposed comic book adaptation then there's the alleged part reshoot that happened because ppl guessed the ending and let's not forget the whitewashing of Wanda and peitro maximoff who are canonically romani and the mcu deliberately changed it to a made up country somewhere remotely European and made wanda a knock off Jean grey (red hair, pale skin, mind powers) for over ten years so bad that it started to influence the comics
Tony stark (hes a war profiteer, his fans infantilize him. They recognize his PTSD and mental problems only. His side of civil war was dead wrong and ppl to this day will not accept that even if you explain it to then like they are 2. Come onguys the un is useless even iron man knew he was wrong he broke the accords three times in the movie and kidnapped a child to fight adult that he had no business fighting. Also his fans are insane)
Specifically black arianitors that excuse everything thing that grow women does (now I don't dislike her or hate her but man her fanbase is annoying as hell especially the black ones it's like the one non black person who does problematic shit but has a lot black ppl in their corner rooting for them so when they do something out of pocket they don't even have to say anything they're black friends do it for them)
Taylor swift (need I could say more mind you I like some of her songs)
Obx/jaira - yall are psychotic!!!!!!! Yall have been tweaking over fictional characters for a few days
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hollow-dweller Ā· 7 months ago
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it's always you at the scene of the crime
5. worst discord server and why
the answer to this is actually not in spidey, it's this one klance server i was in back in ye old voltron days that was absolutely horrible to exist in as an Allura lover/Allurance shipper. when she died, and klance didn't become canon (because it was never going to), things got nasty and i will freely admit i am still bitter about it! nothing made me dislike klance faster or more thoroughly than klance fans.
6. which ship fans are the most annoying?
anyone with a Tony Stark ship, really, though obviously the one I see the most nonsense from is irondad. Tony fans are, 90% of the time, there for Tony, and really focus on him to the exclusion of any of the other characters, including the one that he is partnered/shipped with. as someone who writes for and interacts with irondad because i love both Tony and Peter, who wants to explore them and their extended universes, it fucking sucks to have to wade through post after post that grossly misrepresents or misinterprets Tony, and treats Peter as a prop more than a character.
7. what character did you begin to hate not because of canon but because how how the fandom acts about them?
having said the above: Tony Stark you will always be famous! none of these people who pretend you're a soft uwu dad who's never done anything wrong could make me hate you, because that's NOT you!
i don't know there are any characters i "hate" per se, but certainly there are ones i will AVOID because the fandom is so terrible. in Spidey, though he's not a Spidey character, that's Harley Keener. i have zero feelings toward his canon character because he was a child and then an easter egg, and basically has no canon character. but i will avoid him at all costs in fic/tumblr tags, because his fans use him to completely supplant and erase actual Spider-Man characters, like Ned and MJ and Flash.
8. common fandom opinion that everyone is wrong about
MJ WATSON WOULD NOT WORSHIP PEPPER POTTS ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME
MJ "i want to get a little light protesting in before lunch" Watson, MJ "so really this is all your fault" Watson, MJ "i don't want to tour a building made by slaves" Watson would NOT be falling over herself to talk about how "cool" Pepper Potts is.
fandom loves to drop MJ into interactions with Tony where she's snarky and rude and makes "eat the rich" jokes. but then they'll turn around and also make her look up to Pepper as a girl boss.
and it's because people's aren't representing her as anti-billionaire or anti-establishment as a genuine reflection on her character and how she might behave meeting Tony Stark or Pepper Potts. she's an audience avatar to spout a couple memes and jokes, then is unceremoniously shuffled off stage left so that Tony and Peter can cuddle on the couch or whatever. it's about making Tony look cool and chill for "putting up" with her, and to make Peter embarrassed so that Tony can reassure him.
9. worst part of canon
Far From Home, beloathed. its sins are innumerable but to sum them up in as concise of terms as possible: it represents so much wasted potential. we could have had post-blip meta! we could have had the FOS as more than a joke! we could have had actual development of the petermj relationship! and yes we could have had an actual examination of the impact of Tony Stark and his legacy on Peter and his life!
WE COULD HAVE HAD MAY PARKER
instead we got a kidz bop european road trip movie and only head fakes to anything deeper going on between any of the characters
10. worst part of fanon
here's the thing: the idea of a community of people coming together to collaboratively fill in the blanks of a piece of art is, conceptually, beautiful, and exactly what fandom should be about. doing collaborative, generative creative work is genuinely valuable, and an important part of community building in creative spaces.
but the relationship that people have to fanon, is, frankly, completely fucking whack. modern fandom doesn't use fanon to generate collaborative and creative elaborations, variations, and interpretations of canon: they use it to supplant canon. popular fanon goes beyond being just an idea that a lot of people like; it starts being treated as law. people start interpreting canon through the lens of fanon, and in doing so treat the canonical text not as a work of art that deserves consideration and interpretation, but as a static and authoritative source whose purpose is to be excavated for "proof" of fanon, and anything that exists outside of fanon or in opposition to it is to be dismissed, ignored, and denied.
there are plenty of people who will happily admit they don't pay attention to canon and prefer fanon, and while that isn't my preferred way to engage with art, i have way less of a problem with that. people who engage with the original work through a fanon lens first, in an attempt to "prove" fanon, aren't seeking alternative interpretations or elaborating on the art. they're not even picking and choosing the things they like and the things they don't. what they are doing is working backwards from a foregone conclusion to pretend like art has one fixed, immutable interpretation, and that interpretation is the only correct or acceptable one.
the only proof you need of this tendency is the way people lose their fucking minds when you question popular fanon, or, god forbid, point out how it is directly contradicted or disproven by canon. it's a shitty way to engage with fandom as a community, and it's a shitty way to engage with art, and i have no patience for it.
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notanrp-system Ā· 11 months ago
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shewhowillrise Ā· 1 year ago
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For the salty ask!! 1, 3, 7, 12 and 23! Enjoy ^_^
1. What OTPs in your fandom(s) do you just not get?
Thereā€™s not any I can think of that I donā€™t get. Like even ships I hate I understand why someone might ship them, even if itā€™s gross. Even ones that arenā€™t from the same fandom, who never have or will never interact. Like thereā€™s a vibe, a feeling, a compatibility of personalities that just speak to people for ships like Jelsa. Itā€™s wanting to find love even in the most unlikely of places, which is just such a human thing to want to find that I canā€™t begrudge them for wanting it. Can I dislike a ship that is like that? Of course, but saying that I donā€™t get it would be a lie, because I do get it. I get wanting to find the best companion for the characters you love, and sometimes thatā€™s outside of their world.
2. Have you ever unfollowed someone over a fandom opinion?
Oh god yes. Blocked people just on the crime of them being anti tony stark.
3. Is there anything you used to like but canā€™t stand now?
Stucky, god I shipped them back when CATFA came out but then I got death threats from stucky shippers for shipping Steve with Tony post Avengers. Like thatā€™s not how you convince someone to like your ship people!!
4. Is there an unpopular arc that you like that the fandom doesnā€™t? Why?
MCU: Peter getting a suit from Tony. Like, I understand wanting Peter to make his own suit and use it and stuff, I really do, but if Tony didnā€™t give him a suit (specifically iron spider) he would have died In infinity war. Also the whole ā€œwanting Peter to be alone and angstyā€ is what marvel comics seem to continue doing and everyone hates it, so why hate that mcu was trying not to do that guys what up with that šŸ˜­
I havenā€™t been active in other fandoms as of late unfortunately
5. Unpopular character you love?
Apparently Sharon Carter?? Which is a travesty sheā€™s a hot spy who has Steve Rogers wrapped around her finger. Sheā€™s girlboss 100% yet ppl hate her for it tf??
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thepackdogs Ā· 10 days ago
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squidneytrinh1 Ā· 2 years ago
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Objectification and anti-feminist remarks are okay if a woman says themā€¦.. Right?
It should be no surprise that the next instance I will be discussing is also a scene that takes place in Iron man.
Many of the female characters in the MCU are portrayed as these all-powerful women, which is definitely a step forward from the typical male superhero that has taken place in the past. However, sometimes it may feel like one step forward is still three steps back, which brings me to our next topic of anti-feminism in the marvel cinematic universe.Ā 
There are so many moments in so many of the films in which we can see the camera panning over Black Widowā€™s bottom half, or even the costumes that we see some of the women wearing. Though, one of the most surprising instances of objectification comes from one of the women in the MCU.Ā 
Pepper Potts is a supporting character to Iron Man, in which she portrays his personal assistant and romantic interest ( I wonā€™t even get into that problematic power dynamic). It is shown throughout the first and second Iron Man films that the character Tony Stark is a so-called ā€œwomanizerā€. So occasionally throughout the film, you get the impression that Stark is a player, and in one of these scenes is the morning after a ā€œone night standā€ between Stark and Christine Everhart. The aftermath is what is seen as the most problematic part of Pepper Potts.Ā 
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In the scene, Pepper Potts is greeted by Christine saying,
Christine: ā€œAfter all these years, Tony still has you picking up the dry cleaning?ā€
This uncalled-for insult and interaction prompt Pepper to say,
Pepper: ā€œI do anything and everything Mr. Stark requires. Including occasionally taking out the trash.ā€
This is really one of the first impressions that we get from Pepper Potts, that be slut shaming and referring to another woman as ā€œtrashā€.Ā 
Why at such a time, are we still seeing this age-old anti-femininity on screen? In a superhero movie nonetheless. How do we have the most ā€œfeministā€ heroes existing at the same time as this really bad slut shaming line? When women are ā€œcompetingā€ with other women, it continues to favor the patriarchy. Especially in films where this is showcased, it should be acknowledged, instead, go against gendered behaviors, and avoid lines like that.Ā 
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spideyykid Ā· 3 years ago
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Bro I JUST want the MCU to acknowledge that Bruce Banner and Wanda Maximoff also had a part in creating Ultron, not just Tony Stark
AND out of that trio, the only one with bad intentions was Wanda- she may have redeemed herself in the end, but she was the villain in this situation- and she bears almost no consequences for her actions.
Honestly if it was the other way around, and Tony took advantage of a traumatized Wanda and got in her head that she needed to protect the ones she loved and lead her to an infinity stone that he knew would cause death and destruction- NONE of you would be debating who the bad guy was.
Tony was a victim, did he fuck up? Yes- and Iā€™m not saying he was completely blameless- but Jesus Christ is him being labeled a ā€œmonsterā€ and ā€œUltronā€™s only creatorā€ SUCH a bad take.
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midethefangirl Ā· 3 years ago
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i was just watching a clip of where tony stark tries to bring peter as spiderman to web up team cap and it gets to the door scene where tony goes ā€œiā€™m gonna tell aunt hottieā€¦ā€
i seriously wonder where many tony stark antis got the ā€œtOnKy sTaNk tried to blackmail peter by threatening to reveal his identityā€ idea from because tony completes the statement with ā€œā€¦iā€™m taking you on a field trip to germanyā€ not ā€œā€¦that you are spiderman/ā€¦that you are doing some dangerous vigilante workā€.
was tony being dishonest to may here? yes, no doubt about it. coming to think about it tho, that would defeat the whole purpose of not wanting to reveal peterā€™s secret life because if he told her the real reason, it would beā€¦yeah.
but nowhere did he ā€œblackmail and manipulate (and bribe and groom, two of the wildest reaches and stretches iā€™ve had the misfortune of reading lately from an anti šŸ„²)ā€ peter into following him to germany. like i had to watch that scene over and over, no sign of the so-called blackmail. as someone who has been subjected to blackmail from her younger sisters (of all people šŸ™„), i know what blackmail looks like šŸ¤·šŸ¾ā€ā™€ļø.
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boop-le-snoot Ā· 3 years ago
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some "anti stark" weirdo just reblogged my post. do you think I post my shit for ppl like you? get out lmao
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monathedefiant Ā· 3 months ago
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for context i was searching for posts about lestat being gnc coded. something cute and fun. instead i mostly found posts from a bunch of people angry about lestat being seen as gnc coded.
which is fair! i've been in fandom for a long time. i know the games people like to play where they act like their white man faves are too femme/queer/disabled/mentally ill coded to be critiqued for their shtty actions. it's frustrating asl. i get it.
but i'm literally begging yall to use the 'anti lestat' and 'lestat critical' tags. i used to do it all the time when expressing my frustrations with tony stark, loki, and dean winchester. and like it did for me it'll connect you to other anti/critical gworlies and (not stop completely but) limit the amount of lestat fans/stans/enjoyers interacting with your posts.
what ever happened to using the 'anti *character name*' and '*character name* critical' tags? that was such an effective way to trash a character without getting their fans involved.
like i know tumblr's current setup means you can search a character by name and still have anti and critical posts pop anyway. but we used to make an effort. what happened to making a gd effort?
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rednether Ā· 4 years ago
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Behold, Peter Parker's real dad!
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barbara-gordons-glasses Ā· 3 years ago
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This is a post of appreciation to Captain Steve Rogers, who proved in CW that he was the only Avenger who thoroughly read the Accords.
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no-te-lo-voy-a-dar Ā· 2 years ago
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oh damn, you are right, Thor won't meet this Loki and see how much better they are doing, and we won't have Thor and Pack Peter interactions....but the rest is pretty solid and nice
Tony seeing all these adults stand in some sort of formation that he can't tell if it's due hierarchy, quick thought of or something else, like strategic because he doesn't know who half of these people are. and he hates not knowing - Vision having some kind of subconscious (as much as he has one) version of "i can fix her" upon seeing Pack Wanda though: he doesn't think these individuals around this version of his love are the pest for her and if MCU Wanda fell behind Roger's steps who's not to say this group of people will cause the same harm to Wanda? only to discover - or worse, overhear - how all of this is bringing bad memories to her and how she was treated as more of an animal and left behind by their people on their universe
yes yes yes - i love the idea of a/b/o world people having sharper canines and teeth in general, more strength as a baseline and better condition, as well as how their body hair actually raises like the back of cats and dogs, and some even get their head hair a little anti-gravity (not noticeable if you don't know what you looking for). AND ALSO - the fact there's a barrier in the body language is what triggers the Pack close to their feral side with golden eyes, because the others keep trespassing the obvious line drawn by noises and their uncomfortable stand. they are asking for a fight,,
LMAO Tony going to try and prod Pack Matt because he looked like "Just Some Guy" in the myriad of these powerful entities only to be incapacitated on a blink - sweet victory. and yes, MCU Peter is probably the one anxiously rambling while approaching Pack Matt and then lifting him enough to get Tony from out of under him and then just stays in front of the billionaire - trying to imitate the positions of defensiveness he's seen the Pack members use but something is off and oh, he's adding animal body language of "I don't wanna fight, i mean no harm, but this is my family". Matt probably scoffs as he stands up and fixes his clothes, but a smirk is on his face as he says something like "you are smart here too. you learn quickly. Perhaps Stark could learn something from his intern" except there's hate at that last word and Matt twists his face to "look" at Tony who just frowns
Pack Peter is both older and younger than MCU Peter - he's more mature and knows better in many ways that MCU Peter doesn't, but he's also gained enough adults on his life who are reliable and safe for him so he also is still Just A Kid in ways MCU Peter can't afford because truly his only adult constants are Tony fucking Stark and Aunt May and well....the love for their aunt even in different universes seems to be just as strong. So Pack Peter just, stares and tilts his head and frowns a little - these three but a lot
Loki rolling their eyes at the idea of restrains but after one too many snarky remarks in Rhodes' presence they are threatened to be muzzled and that is what throws them off axis - but soon Wanda and Stephen step up and then they have a nice talk and scenting evening and then Loki just stays as a cat because he still can purr and hiss like that
also, now I'm thinking of the fact Loki can be a cat and how that's gotta affect his relationship with Morpheus - perhaps Dream always had a softer spot for cat and bird related deities or shapeshifters
MCU Stephen is so lonely I'm comparison, and seeing Pack Stephen makes him ache and yearn,,,
MCU Frank as th one to b sensible about this new information and revelation? incredible, makes a lot of sense actually. and what if :)) we add angst :)) of Matt and Frank trying to find, on their own and without telling each other, the R of their universe only to find out they (we?) died perhaps in the battle of New York, or maybe we died a natural way earlier in life so there's also th fact the both of them might never meer their own R and perhaps that adds to then being so, broken between them. MCU Peter being still wary of his Daredevil even after seeing how soft and dotting Pack Matt could be with his Peter, and MCU Matt trying to not get attached only for all those walls to crumble the moment Tony takes to suit and doesn't listen to Peter and the Vulture is still out there - MCU Peter still gets trauma and PTSD about being crushed under a building but Matt was already coming for him, he doesn't fight Vulture on his own AND has someone to hold him as he breaks down and tend to his wounds and - i just, Matt and Peter *sobs*
I am here once again, bc I am having brainrots about the pack(TM) and I had to infect you with those thoughts as well. I am very sorry
So remember how the MCU's Doctor Strange got dropped into the a/b/o au/g&c verse? Cause now I'm thinking about the pack(TM) being dropped into the MCU- post Civil War or post AoU-
Just the thought of g&c Peter stiffening and snarling at MCU Tony who's just kinda lost bc the Peter in the MCU follows him like a little duckling- But this Peter is snarling and hissing, and there are these people are surrounding him, protecting him-And all these people are making weird, animalistic noises, chirping and cooing- making sounds that could not be made from human vocal cords-
All of them just don't smell right, or look right- The pack(TM)'s eyes glint golden sometimes, and sometimes they go to completely communicate in low growls and chirping- There's some hierarchy within the group, but none of the non-g&c characters can tell what it is-
The thought of Loki appearing before them, and the remainder/present Avengers getting out their weapons- and them knowing now that if Loki had really wanted to take over New York, he could have-
And Stephen Strange (pre-Multiverse), seeing the g&c version- with two formidable magic users-
And also, I want to see/write MCU Matt and Frank reacting to the g&c trio bc I think it'd be hilarious- Maybe after this meeting, MCU Matt checks up on his version of Spiderman and that cascades into Peter gaining a 'dad'-
I am rambling but I just wanted to bounce some ideas off of u, babe
yeeeeEEEEAAAH PACK THOUGHTS LETā€™S GOOOO please thereā€™s no need to apologize
ohmygod the pack post Civil War in the MCU world would be such a fucking mess, although if they meet them post AoU i feel like things could have been better for the MCU group due scoldings of the Pack, so, for the sake of angst, letā€™s go with post Civil War (8
Tony would ABSOLUTELY thinkĀ ā€œoh they have a Peter too, this shit easy, watch meā€ and try to approach him all smiles and prancing around only to get a full on growl that sounds like a big dog about to bite his fingers off, but instead of launching at him, Peter curls around himself or steps closer to someone of The Pack, while the adult is most likely glaring at him. MCU Banner would definetly be fascinated by their bodies being capable of making such noises and would probably try to ask so many questions but R, Frank and Wanda do feel like itā€™s bordering on them being specimens or lab rats even if thereā€™s no physical prodding so they answer very short and cut sentences until Banner gets the hint (NO WAIT, THIS BANNER IS ON FUCKING SPACE FIGHTING ON SKAAR LMAO, MAKE IT VISION THEN, AND RHODES THE ONE TO TELL HIM TO STOP jfc i forgot most of the lineups)
the idea that even non a/b/o world individuals can smell their scents is interesting, like its similar to how people get lingering smells after like, baking, or being near a bbq for half a day - the smell is faint if u donā€™t pay attention but itā€™s definetly there - the golden and flashing eyes is unsettling, to them all it screams wild magic rather than something else (perhaps Nat remembers MCU Lokiā€™s blue eyes and how odd they looked) and the way they actually snarl and bare their sharper than theirs teeths? damn
Tony would probably make some comment aboutĀ ā€œoh, kinkyā€ if/when he saw Mattā€™s bond marks and even tried to touch them and that results in a whole different mess of Matt being on top of Tony growling and no one from the Pack stopping him, ALL their eyes being golden and R and Frank are more like ready to ALSO jump Tony - itā€™s probably MCUā€™s Peter who stops the situation
ooooh, Pack Peter not knowing how to feel about MCU Peter,,,,
the Loki of The pack is very different and MCU people can tell it and yet they donā€™t trust them and are wary of them, and even if Loki is not affected Wanda and Stephen will cuddle their god and reassure him of how much they love her
MCU Stephen seeing a healtier version of his yet with more shaky hands and a softer look on his eyes despite the obvious maturity there - so many juxtapositions
okay but imagine the reason MCU Matt and Frank meet their Pack selves is because Pack Peter decided to follow MCU Peter and so Pack Matt and Frank are following him becauseĀ ā€œjfc this kID-ā€ and end up finding their counterparts - who see them interact with Pack Peter and Matt wonders if his worldā€™s Spiderman is the same as this Peter and so checks him out - tries to reach him...which is, harder, because this Peter is so blinded by his admiration of Tony...Homecoming would be different tho, now Peter knowing Daredevil has been trying to aid him and well...Tony took his suit, but thereā€™s a whole mess to deal with, and Tony didnā€™t listen and maybe his other self was onto something....
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bisaster-energy Ā· 4 years ago
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I just rewatched Avengers and I'm fucking LOSING it
I forgot bro...
I forgot how annoying Steve was alsmalmdns
And dont come at me saying that I don't like him simply because I love Tony Stark (as i should!!) Because i remember being so fucking irked when I first watched this movie!! And I just remembered how mad I was when I watched it again cos I forgot like 60% of what was said and what happened tbh
And Steve. Oh my god. Listening to what he said just pissed me off a majority of the film!! Like bruh! What are you doing hon!!
I get it tho like he just woke up, the future is crazy, all his friends are dead it's insane and fucked up!! But jfc his instant dislike for Tony is weird as hell šŸ’€
He doesn't treat anyone else with the same disdain? Like i get it bc Tony has a loud personality and not everyone has to like him ofc
But he's just so...ugh
Like Tony is on the ship next to Steve and they just bagged loki and thor is gonna show up soon. And Tony is doing his normal rambling shit and basically tries to get to know Steve?? At least that's how i saw it? But ig it pissed steve off cos he just ignored what tony said and said "fury didn't tell me he was calling you in" and he just seemed upset that tony was there? Idk if it was because he came late or cos Loki surrendered like moments after tony showed up or cos he made a joke about steve doing pilates to stay spry (lmao) but he didn't seem happy that Tony was there :/
And later Tony's labbing it up with his shiny new science bro Bruce and poking him (cos that's what he does) and obv bruce would tell Tony to cut that shit out if he really was upset by it but all he can say is "ow!!" Before steve busts into the lab like "ARE YOU CRAZY YOUTRYNAKILLUSALL?!?!? no offence doc :)" and bruce is like "ok I'm not gonna hulk out chill" and basically steve is just in there to tell tony off (I seriously wonder if he was camping outside the lab waiting for Tony to do something he didn't like because he came in RIGHT after tony poked Bruce so)
And i get why he would do that but bruh im pretty sure bruce is fine lmao plus he and tony seem to be getting along so far so idk why he thought "dear god the genius is gonna get us all killed with his reckless behavior!!" And went in to save the day lmao. Maybe I'm just being a bitch but if i were steve I'd see if there was a real problem first. And hulk is a scary concept I get it but steve literally said to Bruce that the only thing he cares about is the fact that he can find the tesseract ans yet every chance he gets he's like "careful guys we don't wanna set banner off now do we?" Like bruh if you were concerned about how much of a handle he has on hulk why didn't you just god damn say so instead of lying to this man's face šŸ˜”
What I got from the scenes between tony and bruce vs the scenes between steve in bruce is that Tony trusts that bruce could handle being on this mission while steve just...doesnt :/
So naturally Tony thinks something hinky is going on with shield and bruce fuckin agrees cos hell yeah Science Bros plus SHIELD is sus
And steve is like "don't go snooping this is why shield doesn't like you stark >:( now get back to finding that cube" and then he fucked off to literally do exactly what Tony was doing but without hacking.
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Are you kidding me?? We always talk about how much of a hypocrite steve was in Ultron when he was mad at tony for keeping secrets and then keeping the Stark murder a secret but this man showed us who he was from the get go lmao
But then they find out *gasp* Tony was right! Big shocker there huh. And SHIELD is super sus and loki is like bruh y'all cant defeat me like this smh
And one of the most MIND BLOWING scenes in this film is where they're all arguing around the scepter, who's being a chaotic little bitch
Now keep in mind, the scepter was definitely influencing everyone but it didn't tell them WHAT to think or say lmao so i have to assume that to some extent they mean that shit
So I'm just supposed to be focusing on steve so sorry for going off topic but Fury turning the topic of the conversation to tony saying how he built his fortune off of weapons?? That shit was uncalled for like bruh...there was a whole movie about his character development and how he shut down his weapons bc he found out they were hurting innocents...
But anyways
Steve takes this opportunity to call tony out for being narcissistic. His evidence? I'll have to get back to you on that cos i have no fucking clue.
Here's the big argument where we get most of our good old anti-steve content tbh:
Steve says tony is nothing without the suit
Again: where is this man's evidence?? Why is he saying these mean things?? AND I KNOW IT'S COS OF THE SCEPTER BUT NO ONE ELSE WAS TALKING FOR THIS LONG OR ZEROING IN ON ONE PERSON SO STFU
He seems upset that tony actually answers his question like...you asked what i was without the suit? (The best part is that natasha did a little head nod, agreeing with tony calling himself "genius billionaire plybiy philanthropist")
says he knows guys worth ten of Tony without any of the stuff he listed
He just met Tony. They haven't even known each other a week and he's ready picking at his insecurities?? Crazy. Plus when steve says "I've seen the footage. The only person you fight for is yourself." Like ok there wasn't exactly a war for him to go and fight in but go off rogers. When was he supposed to fight for other ppl and what makes you say he didn't?? I'm so confused about the thought process here. And the footage he saw? What was it? Him saving people at the Expo? Him fighting terrorists? A sex tape of him that got leaked??
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Says Tony wouldn't sacrifice for someone, wouldn't let some guy crawl over him while laying on a wire
Again how does he know that Tony WOULDN'T?? He's just saying random shit at this point and I just cant
And Tony again gives a smart remark because that's what he does plus it's funny
He said he would cut the wire, which is such a tony thing to say tbh. Like,,in Afghanistan they were like "build us weapons or die" basically and he said "I pick the third option" and got the hell outta dodge
And steve is upset by this answer as well! Another shocker. He says "always a way out" like lol why not? Why are you so pissed? What is the issue darling??
And Tony FINALLY stoops to Steve's level of throwing out insults and says "lmao like you?? Bruh your talents came from a science experiment. Your "heroism" came from a bottle you clown" (obv he didn't say it like that what I said was actually meaner tbh i just hate steve)
And the worst thing i think steve said in the entire film: "you may not be a threat but you better stop pretending to be a hero"
I was just VIBRATING with anger at this I was LIVID. Tony has so many damn insecurities and this is not helping!! Like bruh wtf is Steve doing rn!! Everyone else stopped arguing at this point and is just LOOKING at steve basically tell Tony he's nothing special for no reason besides him not liking tony for reasons unexplained
And wanna know what Tony doesnt do? Listen to him. Im actually pretty sure he told him to fight him twice and tony doesn't get the suit either time lol
And steve has NO comeback for that so he just tells tony to straight up fight him lmao
Idk why I keep forgetting that Steve likes to resolve disagreements by fighting in alleys. So he's ready to post up as if tony is some jock who just wont leave this poor dame be and tiny asthmatic Stevie is the only one willing to stop him. Steve you are HUGE now and tony is just existing next to you and you're yelling at him for it. This scene makes steve look a lot less like a hero and a lot more like the bullies he so fervently advocates against ngl
And then steve grabs tony when shit starts to hit the fan bc "you cant go alone!!" Like bruh just follow him lmao why are you stopping him (just a personal pet peeve tbh not really a big deal i just didn't like it)
And I'll say this again: IK THE SCEPTER WAS MAKING EVERYONE ANGRY AND SHIT! I GET IT! But out of that whole mass argument Steve was the only person focusing on one individual and for such a long ass time too! Tony said one thing that was on the offence instead in defence of himself that whole time and I'm crying cos how tf does the impulsive asshole have more self control than the golden boy Captain America?? I'm at a loss here folks
The way i see it, Tony and Steve don't like each other. They rub each other the wrong way. But the reason i don't like Steve is that he has contempt for Tony right off the bat with no explanation? And meanwhile Tony's whole childhood was probably riddled with Captain America. He probably saw Steve every damn day, or heard his dad talk about him in a higher regard than his own son. So he probably had this ingrained jealousy of Steve from the start and he STILL managed to be as civil as he usually is. But Steve?? I can only fucking guess.
So yeah there's my rant sorry I've been doing so many of these recently I just had a lot of time on my hands and decided to watch some Marvel and get pissed about it lol
TL;DR: after watching Avengers again I realized that Steve has always been pretty shitty so his character development wasn't exactly a drop, more like a stagnant line that no one noticed because he was pretty okay in the Captain America movies
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shikaemaru Ā· 4 years ago
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not to be controversial or anything but if u stan tony stark ur a bootlicker
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