#To dictate stories abt two brothers can't happen

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What are your opinions on ragnarok Loki? If you don’t feel comfortable talking abt them I get it, you don’t have to reply to this. I just saw that you said og Loki 2011-2013 and I was curious how you felt about him In ragnarok.

I watched all of marvel for the first time before the Loki show aired, and joined tumblr at the same time (for the fandom). So my opinions on Loki definitely stand with how og fans feel. Like I’m terrified for season two

Honestly, I don't like Loki's portrayal in Ragnarok. I believe that movie was where the actual problem with Loki's characterization began.

Ragnarok tried to destroy all the characterization in the previous movies and attempted to reboot the story of Thor. Therein lies the problem. You can't just reboot things like that. It's a continuing story.

The movie straight up lied about Loki through Thor's mouth.

Loki didn't betray Thor in TDW, he merely survived an impalement trying to save his brother.

Loki was not a stabby bully kid, he didn't attack his brother and try to kill him constantly. It's shown how cautious and nervous he is in the opening scene of Thor. I know it was done for laughs but the whole thing left a bad taste in my mouth.

They didn't follow the script the majority of time, which had a good scene between Loki and Thor, where they talked about their issues and Thor actually apologized to him for being ignorant towards him. They scrapped that and added the scene where Loki betrays Thor (going against their own plot, because the GM didn't offer a prize to Loki, he threatened to behead him).

Sidenote: The whole thing with the GM being played like a joke. He's a cruel dictator. How is everything that's actually horrifying being made into a joke here?

Not a single character he meets treats him with decency. Not even his own brother. Especially not his brother. Thor treats him like shit, even though he had saved his and Jane's life the last time they had seen each other. It's wonderful how he just leaves Loki to basically fry on the floor, unsble to move, completely vulnerable. In real world that means death. GM's guards would've found there and he'd have been executed. But once again it's played for laughs, and Thor acts like he had left a way out for him when he left her frying on the floor.

Loki's mannerisms aren't the same as the previous movies. It's jarring. This only continued in the series, to the point where I no longer see Loki there, I simply see Tom with black hair, acting goofy.

That stupid play. Loki was literally dying in that scene. It was something solemn and tragic. But nope, gotta make it a joke as well. To show that Loki had planned to act like he was dying. Again, not what had actually happened. There is no way Loki could've predicted anything in that battle on Svartalfheim.

The whole thing with Strange and Loki. Yeah, a human sorcerer with like 2 yrs experience is totally going to out-magic a sorcerer who's over a thousand years old, a known master of magic at that. Loki only shows his daggers, nothing else. When we've seen him use magic in the previous movies.

There are many more things I think I'm forgetting. Tere's a whole compendium at @nikkoliferous blog, which mentions everything wrong with Ragnarok, including the director's utter disregard and disrespect for the previous movies and the characters. And @lucianalight had a lot of meta about it too. Others are also welcome to add to this. Please do.