#Thought that'd be entertaining enough to share haha

[gallanthowl]

I'm using Medibang to edit icons of Wolf Link on my phone, and the app hits me with an awfully silly ad for dog hats and sweaters omg 😂

[sugar-omi]

(swiftie asker) "he was the sweet lemonade you wanted for a summer but cove was the water you needed" OH OKAY. OH OKAY. YOU LITERALLY COULD'VE JUST TAKEN MY STILL BEATING HEART AND THROWN IT INTO A FOOD PROCESSOR AND IT WOULD'VE HURT LESS THAN THAT. WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK DUDE

the idea of baxter filling the "other woman" archetype is so bittersweet because he doesn't even show any hints that he's upset about it. he's just so very good at reassuring others that everything's fine, that the day is meant to be about them and that he's here to make their special day perfect. but who's going to be there for him? who's going to be more than just his summer love? who's going to realize they still love him in the fall?

reminds me of some of taylor's new music from ttpd ... fortnight (the first track) is such a baxter song because like . fleeting love? the one that got away? "thought of calling ya, but you won't pick up" referring to baxter ghosting mc for five years? "i took the miracle move-on drug; the effects were temporary" referring to baxter trying to make himself as temporary as possible so mc would forget about him easily - and it not working? "i love you, it's ruining my life"? "i touched you for only a fortnight"? "all of this to say, i hope you're okay - but you're the reason"? "and for a fortnight there, we were forever"???? i'm sorry but it's literally him.

ahhhh i don't mean to constantly send in walls of text but i've been a fan of yours for a long ass time and i'm so glad you like my silly little ideas!! i look up to you a lot as a writer so it makes me really happy that you're willing to entertain my thoughts haha

"who's going to realize they still love him in the fall" OH MY GOD.... just snatch my heart up n squeeze it omg...

that song is so him. i listened to it like 3 times and it's so HIM. also "i love you, it's ruining my life" is the best fucking way to describe how I FELT AFTER PLAYING BAXTER'S DLC. the pain, the way he delicately then cruelly rejects you when you ask for more.

that'd be exactly what he was trying to avoid. it's why he didn't go further with you in the cabin, and it's why he keeps up the appearance of someone put together and strong, mysterious and a whirlwind. so much so you can't put up with it for more than the summer.

gives you the glitter and flare of a summer fling, gives you fun and excitement but deprives you of the intimacy, dodges the sensitive questions...

but you're too kind. always reaching out for him, pulling him into your small world, and he's too much of a sucker. falls for your sweet smile, your insistence that he joins your friends or family for activities. falls for you insisting that you need him, that you like him...

jfc i cannot ramble again, if anything im the one yapping your ear off LMAO. please i can ramble about baxter for DAYS. i love him but this man is the perfect angst bank and i can drag on for ages...

and please don't worry about writing long messages, even if i take awhile to respond, i love reading em so much. i was actually looking forward to what you had to say about my last response lol <3

n plus you know much more about taylor swift than i do, and the songs n stuff better. i mean i do check the lyrics n associate em n associate songs n stuff but i love how enthusiastic you are, it's very refreshing to me 😊

and omg you're so kind... ngl i cried a bit LOL i've never had someone say they look up to me n i didn't expect that, that's very sweet and i'm glad i'm good enough to be inspiring, i'm very happy to hear that🥹🫶

n i'm more than happy to listen to everyones thoughts, i think everything yall have to say is worthwhile and it's like you pluck some things straight out of my brain too 😂 i wish i could spend all day answering yall's thoughts and stuff, i get excited seeing more asks even though i cannot respond quickly

so thank you for sharing your thoughts <3 i look forward to more, n don't be afraid to dm me!!! yall are too sweet, so feel free to ask me anything 🥰

[freakygirlie]

Hi. Itk here. Believe me, don't, doesn't matter. Thought I'd drop (after you summoned ha) by given the chaos and try to enlighten the ones who choose to believe me, as much as I'm capable of.

The first thing I wanna say is: stop trying to figure out their relationship. You most likely never will. Fans are stuck on both extremes, when the actuality of it is far more in the middle (perhaps even up or down and all around ha). It's complex and strange and not at all "normal" (as normal as they could be, anyways).

It's not as simple as "oh they're just a closeted couple who engage in bearding and have kids and behind closed doors they're just a regular, old married couple and a big, happy rainbow family".

Doesn't sound like itk info, believe me, I get that but observing the fandom I'd say it almost is because most fans simply hang on extreme simplistic ideas of what their relationship is.

Second thing I'd like to say and unfortunately seems like it's not at all obvious but: do not believe anything they share publicly. Not saying they're lying compulsively, but they are public figures and they have a lot at stake to just casually drop the actual truth of any given situation.

Just don't. The same salt you have regarding itks, have towards them. It'd do you some good...Believe me. Unless you are involved in the entertainment or political life, you cannot even begin to fathom what it's really like, the level of manipulation, falsehood and well, overall deviation of it. It's quite disturbing tbh. So just always take whatever's said and shown with a good amount of salt. With public people hardly anything is accidental or casual.

I think the most prominent question now is...Why? Why would they do something like that? Regardless if you have the ingenuity to believe the little scene they made or not...Still, the question lingers.

With my level of "in the knowness" I cannot for sure say the real reason, yet from the pieces I've collected so far, seems to be a multiple gain scheme. It was a high risk, they were well aware, and it paid out in the way they were expecting, minus small bumps here and there. But overall it seemed to have worked in their favor. How in the hell, one would ask?

Believe me, I used my best sneaky capabilities to find out exactly why but they were smart enough to keep this one locked tight, minus a few loose lips. And from those all I've heard was that "whatever the purpose was, it worked out".

As weird as it may sound to the innocent mind, it's actually not at all, given that even leaked nudes are not at all leaked or accidental, and those tend to (at least in the past) get immense amount of backlash. It's not the first time famous folks fake a fight, surely won't be the last.

A lot goes into public image, it's not black and white as "well but it looked bad on Jensen", "it looked bad on the prequel", etc. You'd be surprised as how little this truly matters given the level of manipulation they are able to pull on the public. And well, even with them...It happens all the time. Both made mistakes far worse than just "not telling my bestie about my new project" and fans would eventually let that go and put them back on the pedestal.

So just remember, always: not in the industry? then don't judge anything because you simply do not understand how it works.

Another piece of itk information I can give besides "this was planned and it worked" is: they are fine. From what I've heard they are not fighting over it or going through anything more dramatic than what they usually have been going through ever since they met haha.

So just sit back and chill out. Breathe, read fanfiction and remember that we will never truly get answers, because even what comes out of their mouths are most of the time carefully thought out and directed to have a specific meaning and effect (why do you think Jared mumbles and rambles so much?).

Another interesting piece of itk: you know how they always say they never fight? Even though that sounds insanely hard to believe even if they were just friends because who knows someone for that long and is constantly together and never fights? Unlikely, right? Yes, as obvious as that was. But unfortunately a lot of you seem to believe that, given the level of shock you had for this little twitter feud (as fake as it was). Yeah. They fight. A lot.

They fight as much as individuals in their situation would. Like I said, not at all what most people absentmindedly seem to think it is. They go through a lot. Way more than anyone who isn't in a similar situation would understand. It's messy, although they try their best to make it simpler in the ways they can.

On top of being in a very complex situation, they both have strong personalities and one of them is quite hard to "pin down". So altercations happen a lot, but they know how to deal, and they are exceptionally good at making sure that doesn't interfere in their work (oh well, at least not any work that doesn't benefit from intense emotional exchanges, anyways 😉...chemistry isn't something random, you know? haha).

I find it quite...interesting (to put it nicely) that a lot of hats easily believe they are a couple that lies constantly about almost every aspect of their lives, yet, they cannot believe they would fake a social media narrative. It makes no sense whatsoever.

It'd do you all good to be a little less tendentious and look at them as, you know...Humans? They are not what they seem to be, just as you guys also take in different versions of yourselves in different situations, they do too. And don't be so hopelessly naive to actually believe they see fans as "hashtag family". This is their work. And as grateful as they are for supporters, they certainly do not consider them family. To the point of never lying and trusting you with their life.

I'm sure they love their fans, but come on, saying they would never lie because that's mean to fans is just beyond naive. They've been doing it all along and oh, another interesting info? They don't think they're doing anything wrong.

Yeah, sounds weird, you'd think they'd feel guilty. But again, unless you were media trained, you'd never get it.

From years now if there's one consistent info I've gotten was this: they don't feel obligated to tell you anything. They believe they are doing "what they are supposed to do, the right thing for everyone involved".

So. Yeah. And hell, they are right about not being obligated to say anything about anything, I guess.

Well, I hope that was helpful or at least entertaining. It's hard to share info without accidentally making it obvious who I am for the lurkers (sure you guys were well aware that they lurk around the fandom). But it's safe because as long as I don't provide evidence, I'm fine. Just walking a thin line between sharing and not sharing something too specific that would be easy fir them to know who has that info and although they can't do anything against itks, they can manage to cut us off somehow and I enjoy having access lol, so that'd be a bummer.

Anyways, take itks and J2 themselves with a ton of salt haha! You are lovely, btw, you seem very kind and I enjoy your blog very much! much love!

itk anon everything you said was <333 and i agree with like almost all of it. very nice analysis and ask thank you ! i don't always believe everything j2 put out but the whole stunt being a false narrative just seems wrong so idk what to make of it. regardless i myself can sometimes get carried away in my star-struck love of j2. and i am a tinhat so well :) and now they look to be really good and taking a break from here was well worth it <3

''You are lovely, btw, you seem very kind and I enjoy your blog very much! much love!'' i love u so much hope u have a great day !

[elyvorg]

I want to know what are your thoughts on if the digimon savers cast (or just some of them) got into a danganronpa killing game

Do you think they would trying and kill someone, try help with the case the best, betray every,...

Haha, welcome to this extremely tiny intersection of fandom interests, population me and you and probably only like two other people.

...Well, we sure do already have the Ultimate Street Fighter and the Ultimate Doctor here in the form of Masaru and Tohma, don't we.

Obviously they wouldn't want to kill or betray anyone, because despite what the premise of Danganronpa might be trying to imply, most halfway-decent people would not suddenly jump to doing that even when put in the killing game situation. Masaru and Tohma are both more than resilient and honourable enough to not just give into cowardly self-preservation.

Tohma would be pretty good at helping to solve the cases, of course. Masaru would very decidedly not be. The whole class trials and deductions thing would be extremely not his element, which unfortunately would make it tricky for him to stand out among a DR cast even though he's definitely interesting enough to deserve to.

...Let's be real, Masaru is quite a bit like Kaito in certain ways and would definitely fall into the same trap of being impulsively driven to try and solve the problem by punching it. Let's hope the narrative would be kind enough to let him survive this. Let's hope he'd learn from that, like Kaito did, and never quite go that far again.

Of course, even though most people in DR killing games are in fact not backstabbing murdery assholes, murders still end up happening anyway because of Monokuma's manipulation and motives. Masaru and Tohma would both be very subsceptible to motives involving their loved ones, unfortunately.

...But also, that'd be pretty boring. The narrative of “character tried to do a murder because they thought it was necessary to protect or see their loved one(s), but they failed and died for it, how tragic” is a thing we've seen a few times in DR already, and Masaru or Tohma wouldn't really put that much of a unique spin on it. There's way better things to do with these two's characters in a DR story than make them, like, a chapter 1 or 2 murderer and then that's it and they're dead and don't matter any more. Neither of them narratively deserve to just be the victim of someone else's murder, either; they're more interesting than that.

If either Masaru or Tohma did end up murdering someone, they deserve for it to be some kind of meaningful selfless sacrifice in an attempt to take down the killing game and save everyone, rather than just a personal-loved-ones thing, because they're worth that much. These are five-or-six-chapter-sized characters here, in terms of how interesting they are. They would have very fun and interesting responses to an unfolding killing game (especially Masaru, despite how bad he'd be at the deductions! His manly principles would have so much to say about all this bullshit murder and lying and betrayal for some sick bastard's entertainment!) and it'd be a huge shame to waste all of that.

As for the rest of the main Savers cast, if Ikuto (the Ultimate Wild Child?) is at a stage prior to his canon character development, he'd have no qualms about the concept of murdering a human in principle, and this might just push him to actually do it. Oh dear. Meanwhile, if this is Ikuto after his development, he just wouldn't be massively interesting, because once he's come to terms with things, he doesn't have any particularly strong issues? He'd mostly be a little bit like Gonta in his general concept but with less gentleman and bugs and more childhood trauma. (Imagine if Gonta's forest family had been murdered by humans! oh nooo. Ikuto and Gonta being crossover friends and bonding by sharing stories of their forest families and human families please)

Yoshino didn't immediately spring to mind to include in this because she's pretty much an ordinary person and doesn't have an obvious talent. She'd try to be practical and logistical about things on the surface, a decent contributor in the trials and also one of the biggest advocates of everybody just calming the hell down. She'd also be constantly complaining that this is the worst, because, to be fair, it literally is. ...And she'd secretly be completely falling apart from anxiety and lack of self-esteem on the inside. I hope for her sake this wouldn't result in the narrative just randomly killing her off as an “oh no look at how this weak person just crumbled and died, how very despair”, because that can happen, and it... does feel like what a Danganronpa narrative might do with her, unfortunately.

For that matter, while I can wish for Masaru and Tohma to either survive or have a death that's impactful and narratively important and that matters beyond just the one case... would a Danganronpa narrative actually do that with them, or would it just kill them off randomly because somebody's gotta die here?

That's kind of the thing with putting characters from other narratives into Danganronpa. Those characters weren't designed to die; they were designed to be their own characters with their own lives who get to live and have stories in their own universes and (usually) end up relatively happy. To put them in a narrative where the premise absolutely requires that at least two-thirds of the cast dies just feels really unfair. Actual Danganronpa characters are at least written with the approach that a lot of them are going to die at a certain specific point in the narrative, so it sort of feels like that's the point of that character, and then their death doesn't feel so... wrong? Obviously it's still cruel and wrong in-universe where they're people with their own lives who weren't created just to die here, but, like, on a writing level it feels somewhat more fair like that.

Like, Danganronpa V3 did pretty well in terms of having every character, be they eventual victim, killer or survivor, feel like there was a point to them dying or killing or surviving when they did. No-one's death, or even life, felt narratively pointless. (The first two games were a lot more hit-and-miss at this, and that's kind of one of my issues with them, 1 especially.) Putting in characters who weren't created to be a Danganronpa character makes this a lot less fair, because some of them are going to be dying just because someone needs to die here, and not because they were written in a way such that it works for this particular character to die in this chapter given that somebody has to.

  But, well, regardless of what a hypothetical Danganronpa writer would decide to do with these characters, here's approximately what I would do with the Savers cast in a DR narrative in a way that does right by them and makes the most of their potential, by making them some of the central players in the story.

Yoshino would be the non-talented protagonist, because that's the only real way to get her to have any meaningful contribution in a Danganronpa narrative. Her heavily suppressed anxiety issues and tendency to push herself too hard because she has to would be a fun thing to make her an interesting protagonist who's more distinct than just an audience-surrogate everywoman. She'd gradually befriend both Tohma and Masaru, Tohma because he appreciates her level-headedness (on the surface) and contributions to the trials, and Masaru because he respects her guts for being able to be so relatively forceful about keeping the group under control despite not even having a talent.

For the sake of having Ikuto be as interesting as possible but also not just getting killed off, he'd try to kill someone because of his hatred for humans (I guess his forest family is just sapient animals in this universe and not actually Digimon, but he'd have a similar backstory), except then things would somehow happen such that he ends up morally responsible for the death but not directly the blackened, so he doesn't get executed. Then he'd realise how awful he feels about it and that “revenge” didn't help him feel better at all, and he'd accept his humanity and try to do better and slowly become a friend of the main group. A bit like in Savers canon, but darker, given he'd have actually killed someone. (And also a bit like a certain someone from a certain one of the DR games.)

(A potential way that this could work with Ikuto being responsible for a murder but not the blackened: it happens as part of a double-murder case, in which Ikuto killed someone, but somebody else also killed another person on the same night. Ikuto’s victim just happens to be discovered second, and that rule of Monokuma’s where the second-discovered victim simply doesn’t count is in effect. And then Ikuto, realising this, starts loudly insisting that he killed both of them, partly out of realising that this is the best way for him to get even more of those horrible humans killed, but also secretly because he's furiously indignant at the implication that this thing that he's always twistedly convinced himself he wanted just apparently doesn't even matter now that he's finally gone and done it, and he desperately wants to be recognised as the righteous and vengeful Warrior that he totally is.)

Masaru and Tohma would start out barely able to stand one another for the first chapter or two because they're such opposites, but then something could happen that lets them see the similarities in each other and begin to respect each other for their equally strong sense of morality and disgust towards the killing game and drive to do something to stop it however they can. Masaru would begrudgingly admit that Tohma's smarts are super useful here, and Tohma would eventually acknowledge that someone with this sheer reckless unpredictability that Masaru is made of could be exactly what they need to take Monokuma down.

Maybe there’d be a case with some version of the standard threatening-loved-ones motive, and both Masaru and Tohma very seriously consider committing murder because of it. But then Yoshino manages to notice them acting strange and talk them out of it, possibly helped by Ikuto if he’s had his development by then. This’d only help to strengthen Masaru and Tohma’s friendship - they each can relate to the other having family members he’d do anything for - and also their resolve to end the killing game, after seeing how close it came to turning even themselves into murderers.

One of the climactic cases would revolve around some kind of plan Tohma came up with, also involving Masaru, who is trusting Tohma and playing his part, to try and end the killing game. Or maybe Tohma's plan could somehow involve him pretending to betray everyone, without Masaru being in on it (to make it convincing, because to fool your enemy you must first fool your friends!), possibly leading to unexpectedly large consequences with Masaru's reaction to that. I don't know exactly how this'd all fit together and work, but it'd be great. There's some kind of delightful story in there somewhere, I just know it. One of Masaru or Tohma would probably end up dying as a result, but it'd be in a heroic sacrifice sort of way rather than a tragic failure sort of way, because I say so and they deserve to go out in a blaze of glory if they go out at all.

Also, if we want to make Masaru and Tohma's backstories and issues relevant to the plot of this, maybe Masaru's dad disappeared because he got caught up in a previous killing game or something related to it, and they slowly find out about what happened there? (Oh no, this means Suguru's super dead in this universe, doesn't it.) Maybe the Norsteins are into much shadier stuff than in Savers canon and are, like, funding the killing game or something, and Tohma is disgusted when he finds out? There's definitely things that could be done there and fun reactions that both of them could have to this, which could potentially even provide some fun motivation to whichever one of them might end up doing a heroic sacrifice to end things.