#This show also has the audacity to say. Male abused victims are sympathetic while female abused victims aren't.

[muggle-born-princess]

Gabriel: "I became a terrorist because I still loved and miss Emilie, and that's why I abused and gaslighted everyone; including Adrien."

Marinette: "I forgive you, I'll make sure I never tell the truth to anyone. Not even Adrien."

Félix: "I stole the miraculouses from you because I was ashamed for being a sentimonster, and I was abused for being one. I just wanted them to be free. Which is why I committed genocide."

Marinette: "I forgive you. Wanna join our team as the new Peacock holder?"

Chloé: "I bullied you because my mom abandoned me, and daddy didn't know how to raise me properly. I felt jealous, insecure and useless towards you. That's why I became Queen Bee and betrayed you."

Marinette: "FUCK YOU! LEAVE!"

[alrightsnaps]

(Part one) can I just say I love your responses to the violet/Anthony relationship. i mean there’s the weird idea that fandom shouldn’t ignore men’s trauma, when every single fandom I have ever been in has hyper fixated on one man and his man pain while defending every action of his often while blaming other characters for it- often female characters. i don’t understand why fandom thinks that Anthony is still 18years old OR this weird fandom idea that violet had post partum depression after hyacinths birth so anthony was responsible for looking after the kids. there is no canon basis for her having post partum depression. like the books and tv show make it pretty obvious that violet did the majority of the child caretaking and knew her children very well although Anthony of course was still involved. this whole blame placed on violet is literally done to give Anthony more trauma & sadness- same as the idea that violet favour benedict or Colin or Daphne over him. I mean if anyone is the favourite wouldn’t it be hyacinth who violet literally claims saved her and probably let her get away with too much. but of course that wouldn’t make anthony more sympathetic in the way that benedict being violets favourite would.

(Part two) I hate how fandom acts like Anthony - a literal lord in the regency era is the most oppressed character with the most tragedy in the whole show. all his flaws are blamed on violet or Siena or Daphne or Simon. Violet traumatises him bc she tells him to grow up, Daphne is a crappy sister bc she had the audacity to kiss a guy she was not married to causing him to duel- no sympathy for the restricted societal norms that Daphne has faced. Siena ofcourse caused anthony misery bc she made a joke abt the watch- but no one cares that he tossed her onto the street. And ofcourse Simon was a shit friend cause he didn’t marry the girl he kissed until he was forced to despite anthony doing the same thing in the study. I actually like show anthony but fandom Anthony is a different story. You can like a character without needing to blame all their bad actions on someone else. Sorry for the long rant.

Bless you anon, feel free to rant to me any time!

I think fandoms’ hyperfocus on male trauma is a damn good reflection on how men's pain is treated by society in general and actually taken seriously and how women are usually blamed for the actions of the men in their lives. It's the fault of the mother when her son grows up to be a raging misogynist because she shouted at him when he was in the third grade etc. I've never NOT seen people focus on men's mental health and prioritise it over women, fandom or not. It kinda brings to mind how some people when talking about the sexual abuse of a man will use the all-time-classic “if the victim was a woman things would be different!” to emphasize that men have it worse and men's trauma isn't being taken seriously. Since.....women have it easy and are usually believed when they speak up or see the perpetrators facing any consequences I guess??

(Funny thing is I remember reading somewhere about the opposite happening, and judges giving harsher sentences when it comes to men rather than women being sexually abused by other men.)

Sorry, I'm ranting.

Anyway, regarding Anthony I absolutely agree. I also like his character a lot and I'm really interested to see how they'll develop his arc in season 2 with Kate in the picture. But the way he's infantilised by the fandom is just annoying tbh and too familiar. Everyone is at fault except *checks notes* the super privileged male character whose actions are always the fault of someone else, usually a woman.

I remember how people went after Simon for saying that thing about his father to provoke him (which personally I thought was savage🔥 as🔥 hell 🔥after everything he pulled in season 1) or Violet for not “letting” him be with Siena. Meanwhile Anthony fooled around with Siena all season just because he could, left her high and dry after committing to take care of her, kept approaching her afterwards even though he had no intention to marry her and then–and that's the richest part– he was about to throw her to the wolves by bringing her to a ton party as his mistress. Like...this is supposed to be a man who has been a Viscount for ten years. He had to know that they would tear apart Siena. And instead of either leaving her alone or, if he decided to marry her, asking for his family's support as he presented her as a fiancée (having Daphne and Eloise befriend her, ask for his mother to support the match in the ton etc)...he was about to just about to bring her to Simon and Daphne's party with no safety net whatsoever! And then he was surprised when she told him to fuck off!

It just blows my mind how self-absorbed much of his s01 behaviour was. He was legitimately acting like an 18-year-old the entire season, while also being convinced that he knows better than any woman in his life affected by his decisions.