#This is also why I don't buy that eg Ranboo or Quackity have an obligation to call him out specifically
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Girls the thing about Dream stans is that everybody who was still here after 2021, much less remains now in 2025, is immune to evidence and has been for years. You cannot provide evidence or social analysis or framing of anything because these people do not care about facts. All their held and purported values are subordinate to the axiom that Dream is the victim and in the right
This is not a matter of being uninformed or of just not seeing it the right way! All this information is out there! It is being broadcasted by Dream himself! Anyone who has an opinion at this point has made their choice! Anyone who is looking at those DM screenshots, at the tons and tons of testimonies of people he's hurt, at how many of his associates have denounced him explicitly or frozen him out, at the way the people standing by him act, at the pattern of Dream's behavior and its effects that has been there for years, and still thinks Dream is worth defending is genuinely and actually beyond most external help. There is no more argument! There is genuinely nothing more to say! And again, this has been the case for years!
#This is also why I don't buy that eg Ranboo or Quackity have an obligation to call him out specifically#While denouncing him and countering his bullshit and establishingbthat no you do not gotta hand it to him has value#I don't think it's an obligation and at a certain scale it's just giving him more attention and fuel for his self victimization#Which is what he wants#And I think especially wrt his stans people should stop wasting their time and breath explaining why what he did was bad#They will not listen. Their epistemology doesn't work like yours. They don't care.#Anyone defending him at this stage has no moral line.#Dream situation#Beyond external help is harsh like . Deradicalizing people is possible and noble work but not something you can do to internet randos#And for someone to start getting deradicalized they need to take that step themselves. Yknow
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