#The Coffin of Andy and Leyley
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🔸Brother, who is this bitch you were talking to?
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🩷: Remind again how I play this game? The Gathering of Magic or whatever?
💚: It's really easy, babe! Each turn consists of five phases, in this order: beginning, precombat main, combat, postcombat main, and endi-
🩷: Can I play Pikachu?
💚: Pikachu isn't in this game, stop asking!
#incorrect tcoaal quotes#incorrect gravescest quotes#the coffin of andy and leyley#tcoaal#ashley graves#gravescest#andrew graves#andrew x ashley#coffincest
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I need her confidence
2024 Affirmations with Ashley Graves
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tbh I think that the way Ashley Graves is so mischaracterized by the fandom says a lot about how people view grooming survivors (and autistic people). Let me explain:
Obviously, huge spoilers for Chapters 1 and 2 of The Coffin of Andy and Leyley. This is just a psychoanalysis of Ashley, however to do so involves a LOT of lore.
To start off, I'm just gonna put a trigger warning right here for LOTS of talk about grooming, as well as neglect and ableism. If you feel uncomfortable reading about these subjects you are more than welcome to click off. Please stay safe.
What made me decide to do this rant:
A few months ago, I got a text from someone who was upset about me having Ashley as my PFP. I was initially like "okay, they don't like TCOAAL, so what", and then immediately after I got a text from them responding to an Instagram story I had basically saying that Ashley was "so me fr fr".
"Let me guess, you also kin Valentino"
Valentino, from Hazbin Hotel, as in the blatant physically + verbally + sexually abusive piece of shit who is in no way redeemable.
I had brushed this off as "maybe they just don't like Ashley", until they listed why.
...all of the reasons they gave fell under the main categories of "she's clingy, she's flirtatious with Andrew, and her sprites are made for the male gaze."
The male gaze thing was because she didn't appear to be wearing a bra. Which like... sexualizing much? For fuck's sake, she's locked in an apartment about to die, do you think wearing a bra would be a priority?
Secondly, her behaviour.
Admittedly, she's not a great person. But that's because she never learnt how to be.
In-game there is so so so SO much emphasis on how she acts childish, and how literally no one gives two shits about her. It doesn't take a professional psychologist to figure out that she never was able to develop properly. That's why she's so clingy, because Andrew is the one person who at least pretends to care about her. And then there's her flirtatiousness.
It's revealed in several flashbacks that the only way she could ever get Andrew's attention is to do something fucked up, as seen by her as a child killing Nina. Andrew then gives her attention for this, which establishes the connection that homicide -> attention, and attention = care and love and affection.
Due to the fact that she never had any friends, she never was able to have any type of love (whether that be platonic, romantic, etc.) reciprocated. Except for Andrew.
Andrew, throughout the game, proceeds to subtly encourage Ashley's flirtatiousness. She has no reference of this type of stuff not being okay, and thus her social isolation made her the perfect target.
Social isolation, gaslighting, coercion, threatening to hurt the person if they don't do the desired behaviour. You know what those are?
Textbook signs of grooming.
I realized that people hate Ashley so much because since she's not aware of her situation being bad, she's unable to come to that realization. She's not perfect, let alone a 'good victim'. She only sexualizes herself because that's how she learned she can get affection and care.
So... where does the whole "Ashley is autistic" theory come from, then?
As stated by Renee Graves, Ashley was "a lot of work" as compared to Andrew (guess what, kids take work). Now, this alone wouldn't be any indicator. However...
It's shown that she was unable to make friends because she was "weird" and clearly didn't have an understanding of social cues and rules (which honestly hit close to home for me). It's also shown that she problem-solves differently (or at least differently than Andrew, who is seen as the "logical sane one") and also seems to be more of a hands-on learner (I forget if there's any actual proof of this, however upon analysis she is an ESFP, and ESFPs tend to be more hands-on (yes I'm aware that MBTI types are the psychology equivalent of horoscopes, but there is some truth to them)).
Not to mention how she's shown to have extreme emotions, and tends to have meltdowns (I apologize if this isn't the right word, I'm not sure what the term would be). The extreme emotions part can be part of how blatantly of a pwBPD she is, but BPD also tends to have a higher frequency of showing up in autistic people, especially autistic women.
In conclusion, people hate Ashley Graves because of how well-integrated ableism is in society, as well as the concept of a 'perfect victim'.
#ashley graves#tcoaal#tcoaal psychoanalysis#the coffin of andy and leyley#leyley graves#tw grooming#tw neglect#psychoanalysis#op is autistic#electra talkz#tw ableism mention
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I saw this and I can't stop laughing.
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Andy and Leyley
based on official devlog art
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Worlds best worst boyfriend
#the coffin of andy and leyley#andrew graves#tcoaal#tcoaal julia#Art Things#finally had time to draw this#tcoaal art style surprisingly harder than it looks but fun to do
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we've entered a really fucking weird era of shipping discourse ngl
#the coffin of andy and leyley#proship#discourse cw#i was going to include a second thing but i think that one is bait#starposts#1k notes#2k notes#3k notes#4k notes#5k notes#6k notes
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source - Fromendtomoon
#tcoaal#the coffin of andy and leyley#ashley graves#andrew graves#coffincest#gravescest#gravecest#artist: fromendtomoon
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(giving Andy a helping hand sauce)
🩷: Annnnddddy! My hands are cold! Help me keep them warm!
💚: Oh no, no, no, keep your freezing hands far away from the boys!
💚: SWEET FUCKING CHRIST, your fingers are like icicles, woman!
#incorrect tcoaal quotes#incorrect gravescest quotes#the coffin of andy and leyley#tcoaal#ashley graves#gravescest#andrew graves#andrew x ashley#coffincest
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what a cute couple 🤭
#khyleri#khyle#the coffin of andy and leyley#tcoaal fanart#shipcest#gravecest#andrew graves#ashley graves#tcoaal#fanart#goth couple#goth characters#deplorable#black choker#digital art#digital painting
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So... yeah... I have a thing for possessive/yandere I guess
Do I have problems? Yeah... yes, probably--
♡♡♡
#drawing#art#self insert#andrew graves#andy and leyley#mychael#mushroom oasis vn#peter your boyfriend#your boyfriend fanart#the coffin of andy and leyley#your boyfriend game#im insane#but its fine#theyre hot
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All devlog arts! (I think)
Edit: one more!
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#andrew graves#andrew x ashley#andy and leyley#ashley graves#gravecest#gravescest#tcoaal#the coffin of andy and leyley#coffincest
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