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amphibia-a-day · 1 year ago
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Day 869 of Amphibia Screenshots
Episode: The Sleepover to End All Sleepovers
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dramaruni · 4 years ago
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@bpdaf so this answer opened a can of worms (that I can call procrastination) and I wanted to address it, but with the limited characters in the reply function, I decided to answer it with a new post. Also sorry if this come as an attack, I promise it's not. I just became really curious if I had the wrong idea about the live-shooting system as I was ready to refute your points, but realized I didn't have enough knowledge to do so.
*also tagging @jahe, @yasmini24, @le-amarant as they also replied to my post and I figured maybe you were also interested in this (although it's really long and rambly, so I don't blame you for ignoring the post entirely). So yeah warning, this post is really long.
So I'm well aware of kdrama's live shoot system. But I did wonder if it was normal to start shooting 6 months before the first airing episode, as I was under the impression 6 months of shooting exceeded the standard duration of filming. But I couldn't actually refute it without some data to back that up. So I went to find data.
According to Wikipedia's page on Korean Dramas, they write: “As producing a series involves high expenses, production companies seek to shoot the episodes in the shortest time possible. In contrast to practices elsewhere, the first four episodes of Korean series are usually shot in advance, but the rest are shot continuously as the series is being aired.”
This fits in line with what I believed about Korean dramas live shooting system. They film a couple of episode ahead of time and then rest comes while it's still airing to fit with the audience response to it. Even preproduced dramas are sometimes reshot and re-edited while it's airing. But it didn't really say anything about the average filming duration for a drama or what shortest time possible was defined as. Probably because all dramas will aim for different things and given the content it can vary a lot how long it takes to film.
But I highly doubt it took Vincenzo 6 months to shoot something around 4 episodes and then crammed the rest into the 2 remaining months, as they knew from the start they had 20 episodes to fill.
So let's go through some other drama's shooting schedule to compare with Vincenzo.
I chose to limit the list to 2020 dramas (as they were likely affected by the pandemic) and tvN dramas, so it's the same broadcasting company as these dramas will likely share the same practices. Obviously with the amount I have included, I can't make any definite conclusions, but it does show a pattern.
*disclaimer I tried my best to accurately determine the shooting duration from when filming started to when it ended, but not all of these dramas had that information readily available, so I made do with the information I had at hand. This means some of these are just estimations.
So without further ado, here's the list:
Vincenzo:
May 2020, Director Kim Hee Won and writer Park Jae Bum teamed up.
July 2020, Song Joong Ki and Jeon Yeo Bin were considering the drama, while Ok Taecyeon had confirmed
September 2020, filming started
February 20th, 2021 first episode aired
No episodes April 17thand18th
April 17th, last episode script delivered
April 23rd, filming wrapped
May 2nd, 2021 last episode aired
Shooting time: 8 months
Shooting duration before first aired episode: 6 months
Filming wrapped before last airing episode: 8 days
1. Crash Landing on You
*not affected by the COVID-19 Pandemic * includes overseas filming
July 31st, 2019 – first script reading
End of august 2019, filming overseas begin
December 14th, first episode airs
January 12th, filming wrapped
February 16th, 2020 last episode airs
Shooting time: 5 months
Shooting duration before first aired episode: 4 months
Filming wrapped before last airing episode: 1 month + 4 days
2. It’s okay not to be okay
I couldn’t find the exact time shooting started, so these numbers are based between March and May, as I assume they didn’t shoot without Oh Jung Se being casted and while the table read photos were released in May, it could very well be they had started shooting before this.
February 2020 Kim Soo Hyun and Seo Ye Ji casted
March 2020 Oh Jung Se casted
May 8th 2020, first script reading photos released
June 20th 2020, first episode aired
July 31st 2020, filming wrapped
August 9th 2020, last episode aired
Shooting time: 3-5 months
Shooting duration before first aired episode: 1-3 months
Filming wrapped before last airing episode: 9 days
3. Start-up
August 4th, all the leads are confirmed for casting
September 2020, promotional starts to come out
October 17th 2020, First episode aired
November 21st 2020, Bae Suzy wraps up filming (assuming filming wraps up around the same time as her as she is the lead)
December 6th, last episode aired
Shooting time: 2-4 months
Shooting duration before first aired episode: 1-2 months
Filming wrapped before last airing episode: around 15 days
4. Hospital playlist season 1
*only aired 1 episode pr. week
October 2019, principal photography took place
March 12th, first episode aired
Late April 2020, filming wrapped
May 28th 2020, last episode aired
Shooting time: 7 months (couldn’t find when they actually started shooting, so let’s just pretend they also filmed around October)
Shooting duration before first aired episode: 6 months
Filming wrapped before last airing episode: 1 month
5. A piece of your mind
February 7th 2020, article of the first script reading
February 13th, first photos from drama unveiled
March 23rd, first episode aired
April 8th 2020, tvN announces that 4 episodes are cut due to low ratings
April 28th, last episode aired
Shooting time: 2-4 months
Shooting duration before first aired episode: 1-2 months
Filming wrapped before last airing episode: N/A (couldn’t find the exact time but they also axed four episodes and I don't know how much that affected filming)
6. Psychopath diary
*not affected by the COVID-19 pandemic
August 2019, first script reading
November 20th, first episode aired
January 9th 2020, last episode aired
Shooting time: n/a
Shooting duration before first aired episode: 3-4 months (assuming they started shooting shortly after the first table read)
Filming wrapped before last airing episode: n/a
7. Stranger /Secret Forest season 2
* preproduced based on the information I found
January 2020, first script reading
June 20th, 2020 lead actors wrapped filming (But I only found this article that says this)
August 15th 2020, first episode aired
October 4th 2020, last episode aired
Shooting time: 6 months
Shooting duration before first episode aired: 6 months
Filming wrapped before last airing episode: 4-5 months
What does this mean?
So the drama that comes closest to Vincenzo's filming duration is Hospital Playlist, but they also did things a bit differently. According to their Wikipedia, they only aired 1 episode a week to comply with 52-hour week system and to avoid overnight filming for the cast's and crews' health. So that would extend their shooting time. They also had the same amount of shooting time as Vincenzo before the first episode aired, i.e. 6 months, but Hospital playlist was only 12 episode drama so they also had less content to fill.
The rest of these dramas has a shooting time with 6 months or less. I will say though a lot of these dramas are not action-packed (also I haven't checked the budget for any of these), so comparatively they probably have different needs when filming. The drama that comes closest in terms of action is Stranger/Secret Forest, and it's also pretty close in shooting time with only 2 month different (that's counting from the first table read though). This was however pre-produced so they wrapped up filming before the first episode even aired (if my information is correct). Also this was a season two so they were operating under a little different circumstances.
But with the exception of Stranger/Secret Forest (preproduced) and Hospital Playlist(tried to work with humane working hours), none of this drama has a 6-month filming duration before the first episode aired. In fact some of these dramas don't even exceed 6 months of filming. Meaning they had less time to shoot before the first episode aired. Their production was probably also lower and none them did CGI (although I haven't watched all of them so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) as that should also be accounted for.
So 8 months of filming is a lot to allocate to a drama, at least it's not the norm. There are other dramas that exceed that filming time that didn't make the list (Mr. Sunshine sorry too much research for at this point), but obviously that is not the standard.
Obviously I don't know how the filming was divided, how many of the episodes they had filmed before the first one aired. I don't know how many of the episode scripts were written before it aired. But I can see that even with the live-shooting, Vincenzo has some very uneven scheduling that doesn't align with how the rest of these dramas did their scheduling and airing. None of the mentioned dramas had any delays (in airing, I can't be sure about filming as some of them are probably affected by the pandemic), and yet Vincenzo did, even though they had spent more time filming before the first episode aired.
Also, most of these dramas wrapped up filming with more than a week to spare before the final airing, with It's Okay Not To Be Okay coming the closest to the airing date (with the ones where I know the date when they finished shooting), but they also only had 1-3 months of filming before the drama actually started airing so much less time than Vincenzo. And although they didn't have CGI, they did have the animations for each of the fairytales which I don't know how long it took but I can imagine it took some time.
So then I looked up another drama not by tvN but by Park Jae Bum:
Good Manager/Chief Kim
December 15, 2016 first script reading
January 25, 2017 First episode aired
March 30, 2017 Last episode aired
I couldn't find the date they finished filming, but given they only started a month before airing (honestly I felt super sorry for the cast and crew when I saw these dates), I am assuming the hit the last airing date pretty closely with filming, and that would give them 3 months of filming roughly. And they also had 20 episodes like Vincenzo.
I haven't seen this drama myself, so I can't say anything about the writing quality, but here Park Jae Bum was working under even more time pressure and was able to deliver the ending on time and as I hear, it was pretty a pretty good ending (but I haven't seen it, so feel free to refute me). And yet he couldn't do it for Vincenzo. So I do think something happened with ending, whether it was Park Jae Bum just took a long time writing it for whatever reasons, or someone/thing (be it something personal, writer's block, execs not liking the ending etc.) actually interfered and that prolonged the writing or entirely changed the ending.
Anyway this became too long, so let me just end it here.
I wish I had time to make a more comprehensive list so I could be more definite in the conclusion because obviously I can't base everything of the schedule of 8 dramas that also vastly different in production quality, genre and content.
So yeah I might have just wasted the last three-four hours making something that doesn't even make sense. But hey, at least I'm less prepared for the exams now, good use of time. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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yeongwvnhi · 4 years ago
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You and I on top of it all
This one is quite the brutal piece of work so proceed with caution and be mindful of the warnings. Do tell me if I missed something possibly triggering.
Pairing - Oneus Hyung line (only one makes it) x fem reader
Genre - Angst, Suspense, Suggestive, Horror, Gore
Warnings - murder, violence, blood, weapons, language, death, injuries, guns, shooting, graphic descriptions of murder and violence, romanticizing these themes for the plot
Taglist - @twancingyunhoe @runaway-fics @bearseokie @kingleedo @malzenn
Word count - 3k
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It was 11pm and you were hurrying down the street to get back home. You weren't planning on being outside when it started. Last year still left you shaking in your boots, but this year you will turn the table and stop being afraid. 
What exactly is it? 
It is the purge. The day every crime is made legal and services like police, firefighters or paramedics aren't available. 
Originally you were planning on just hiding out somewhere safe until the 12 hours were over but not this year. This time you wanted to let loose, go absolutely crazy and see where the night will take you. Maybe you'll find a companion or more? Maybe you'll die, who knows? 
Back on topic.. Why were you even out this late? Simple. You bought some nice weapons for tonight. What were those weapons? An array of knives, a bat with spikes and even a damn katana. This time you wouldn't hold back. 
A guy came your way and immediately changed course after seeing your array of weapons. This was exactly what you wanted people to do. Fear you, be scared for their life and just run as far away as they could from you. 
Eyeing the clock above your TV in the living room while taking off your shoes, you realize that it's barely 11:20pm. The fun would have to wait. 
With a shrug you move into your bedroom to put on tonight's outfit. You were going crazy tonight and no one would hold you back, not even your damn clothes. 
You have carefully picked out your clothes a few days ago just for tonight. All black to blend into the night, your casual tight fitting jeans and shirt and your newly bought jacket. There you would store all the knives since it had a lot of pockets. 
The sound of a notification from your phone made you stop examining yourself in your mirror and with an eye roll you go to check. 
Hwanwoong: Hey Y/N, I know that you will be partaking in tonight's purge… I hope you won't die so I can see you again soon.. 
Your best friend has always been worried about you and everything that could happen. 
You: I will be just fine, Woong, don't worry. You better be safe tho or I will kill you. 
After you sent your reply, you didn't bother to check if he answered. You wouldn't be taking your phone with you tonight. Everything else besides your weapons will be staying in your apartment tonight… besides your keys, you decided to give them to your friendly neighbor since he would be waiting out the event tonight. 
Once again your eyes find the clock and a small smile slowly crawls onto your lips. 11:30pm. Soon the fun would begin and you just couldn't wait to finally get your sweet, sweet revenge. 
You secure your sword around your back with the holster and then take your baseball bat. These spikes were so sharp and you couldn't wait to see the damage they would cause. 
The weight of your jacket slowly increased the more knives you put into the pockets and you were so full of adrenalin, to find the person who took everything from you. 
11:45pm, the crazed smile slowly made its way back onto your lips. Just a little while. 
You got up and put your also black leather boots on, tired of waiting for the chaos to unfold. 
With the baseball bat in one hand and your keys in the other you exit your apartment. You lock the door and go to knock on your neighbor's door. 
The man opens the door and you give him a less crazy smile upon seeing the fear in his eyes. "Hey Keonhee, don't worry i just came here to drop off my keys!" You say and hold up said object. 
The taller guy visibly relaxes and smiles back at you. "You scared me there, Y/N" 
"Sorry~" you chuckle and put your keys into his outstretched palm. "Please be safe, yeah?" 
Keonhee chuckles nervously and nods. "You too" 
"Oh I will" you reply, "I'm going to go now. I'll see you tomorrow at 12" 
He closes the door and you hear several locks clicking shut behind it, one after another. 
You swing the bat up and rest it on your shoulder, mindful of the spikes, and walk down the street. It was awfully quiet now and your gaze meets the giant digital clock on a huge building. 
11:53pm 
"Hey!" Someone calls after you and you halt in your steps. "Where are you heading to?" 
You turn around and look at the guy. Tall, black hair and also full black attire. "Why would you wanna know? But I suppose you already know the answer judging from your choice of clothing" 
He walks closer and you now fully see his features. He looks too good to be true. The black turtleneck sweater isn't helping your thoughts either. "You're right" he replies with a sinister smirk. "I'm also going to fuck up someone's life" 
You immediately felt drawn to him, he looked just as crazed as you right now. 
But that didn't mean you'd stay here any longer to chat away, no. It was almost time and you wanted to get your hands dirty. 
So you give the guy an almost too nice looking smile and turn back around. 
"Hey, where are you going?" He asks and you hear his fast paced footsteps approach you. "Don't just leave a conversation like that" 
You chuckle and start swinging your bat around. "I don't really care about conversations right now, pretty boy" 
The Guy scoffs, but you see his smirk in your peripheral vision. "So… are you out for someone special tonight? Or do you just want to blow off some steam?" 
"Does it really matter?" You question in return and meet his eyes for a second. "Also, who even are you?" 
"I'm Youngjo" He replies and shoots you a grin, this time less sinister. "And I guess it does? I could help you out" 
He did have a point, maybe he would actually be of help. "Fine" you nod. "Someone-" 
A loud alarm shakes the silence of the city, the purge has started. 
The two of you immediately look at each other with an excited expression. "Fuck it, let's spill some blood" he says and grabs you by the wrist, dragging you right into the chaos of people running around left and right. 
You manage to escape his grip and fasten your pace to match his. 
"Out of my way!" Someone yells and you see a guy running straight at you. 
No way you're having that shit tonight. "Fuck off!" You spit back and swing your baseball bat right at the guy's head. 
Pretty much to his horror because he can't stop and runs straight into your death trap. His skull smashes against your spiky weapon and you feel his blood splattering onto your face. 
Youngjo has stopped running the moment he heard you spitting back at that guy and witnessed the gory scene. He felt his heart skip a beat and met your eyes, both of you dazed.
"That felt so fucking good" You murmur and Youngjo nods eagerly. For that moment the two of you completely blended out the chaos around you. 
Until there were gunshots, that's when you reacted and pulled him into an alleyway, hiding behind the wall to not get shot. 
Youngjo cornered you against the wall, one hand beside your head for balance. He had his gaze fixated on your side profile while you were checking where the gunshots were coming from. 
"Hey" The tall guy mumbles and your attention belongs to him this instant. "I never thought I'd think that watching a girl smashing a guy's head in would be this hot" 
You click your tongue and roll your eyes, but can't help the smirk that appears slowly. "You're crazy" 
Youngjo's head falls down and he breathes out a chuckle before looking you dead in the eye. "It would be boring if I wasn't, wouldn't it, sweetheart?" 
You can't deny the tingling feeling you felt in your stomach at that and your free hand went up to the back of his neck. "Shut up" 
"Make me" 
"What the fuck are you doing?" A new voice interrupts the two of you. "Wait- Hyung?" 
You turn to look at the guy, annoyance written all over your face for having interrupted the moment. "I fucking hate you for this" 
The guy chuckles nervously and Youngjo leans away to stand at a normal distance. "Why are you here, Seoho? And where is Geonhak?" 
"You didn't just ask me that" he retorts and holds up a bloody machete. "Obviously I'm out for blood tonight" 
A shiver runs down your spine, the vibes that guy gives off are insane. Quite literally. 
"Oh" Youngjo's mouth forms an o-shape. "I see. But now where is Geonhak?" 
"Ah! Right" Seoho piques up and nods his head in the left direction. "He started chasing some weirdo who was about to get a bit too comfy with this girl" 
"Still the nice guy even during a time like this, huh?" Youngjo laughs. "Anyway, we should continue our little fun game now, shouldn't we?" 
You grin and pick up your bat. "We should just go as a group, covering more people n shit" 
"What's your name?" Seoho asks you out of the blue, nodding at your suggestion. 
"Oh, I'm Y/N" You reply before making your way out of the alley and onto the street. "And I see a group of people right up front" 
"Let's spill some blood then, shall we?" Youngjo smirks. 
The two guys follow you and you hear one of them clinking blades together. 
"Hey you!" You shout and the group of four, three guys and a girl, look at you. "Wanna die?!" 
"What are you gonna do, little girl?" One of the guys shouts back and you halt in your steps. 
With a dark chuckle, you open your jacket and pull out a knife. "I'll fucking kill you" is your only response as you throw the knife at him. It connects with his thigh, making him scream in pain and fall to the ground. 
"You have good aim, doll" Youngjo mumbles while passing by you. "Now I'll finish him" 
"Leave some fun for me too!" Seoho whines and just runs at the group of people, slicing the girls throat with his machete with ease. 
Her blood pours out of the massive gash and you hear her gurgling on the liquid. 
One of the two unharmed guys squares up against Youngjo, but he's at a disadvantage in height. 
Youngjo makes quick work of the guy, pulling out a knife from a pocket on his pants and stabbing him in the chest. He pushes the guy away from him and he collapses on the corpse of the girl. 
The fourth guy must've ran away so it's only the injured man on the ground and your little group. 
"Finish him! Finish him c'mon!" Seoho jumps around and you look at Youngjo, but he just nods towards the guy. Your sign to kill him. 
"Too bad that you will die now, huh?" You say and lunge the bat right into his face, killing him right on the spot. "Bastard" You spit and pull out your knife from his thigh and put it back where you took it from. 
"Jesus christ" Seoho murmurs and you look at him. "That was fucking hot" 
You shake off the remains of the guy's brain from your bat. "Shut up" you hiss, slightly flustered. "We should find your friend instead" 
"Right" Youngjo agrees. "Let's go" 
He leads the way with Seoho and you following behind. 
"So… are you out for someone special tonight?" Seoho asks and looks at you through his sharp eyes. "You look tense, darling" 
"I probably won't find him anyways, I'm tense because I don't know if I will die tonight" You give him your answer and hold your bat just a little bit tighter. "So I'm going to use that as my fuel to create as much chaos as I can" 
"I see~" He chirps and focuses back on Youngjo who's still leading the way. 
After a bit more walking, the two guys spot their friend sitting next to a wall, gun in hand and blood on his hands and face. 
"Geonhak, what the fuck happened" Youngjo asks him straight away and kneels in front of him. 
"I killed that asshole, but I also accidently shot the girl. They're both dead" he mumbles, but a satisfied grin forms on his lips. "Now she won't suffer anymore" 
"Hey get up, we gotta create more chaos!" Seoho urges and you exhale a breathy laugh. 
"I think there are a lot of people in the inner city. It's getting louder the closer we get" You say and nod in the vague direction. "Let's go guys" 
"Ooohh sure~" Seoho immediately agrees and Youngjo also looks pleased with your suggestion. 
"Oh you guys brought a companion?" Geonhak asks and stands up. "What's your name pretty girl?" 
You shake the hair out of your face and scoff at the compliment. "I'm Y/N. Now let's go!" 
"I know a shortcut" Seoho exclaims. "It's just-" 
"No! Your shortcuts are dangerous as fuck!" Youngjo rejects his suggestion. 
"C'mon let's just go this way" you tell Seoho. "We can take your shortcut on our way back, alright?" 
"Fine" He grumbles in response. 
Your group quickly gets to the big commotion in the inner city and you just decide to let hell break loose. 
Geonhak starts shooting whoever comes into focus, Youngjo aimlessly stabs people in his way and Seoho attacks everything in his way. 
"Let's dance little lady" some weirdo says and faces you, pipe in his hand. "Got ya!" He yells and strikes at you. 
You dodge in the last moment, swinging your spiky bat at the dude's face, making him stumble back in surprise. "You got a mean one there, hun. Would be a shame if it went out of your hands, right?" 
"Shut up asshole" you hiss and and take another swing at him, this time grazing his arm with a spike and making it bleed. 
"That hurt you stupid bitch" he spits with venom. "I'll end you" 
"Good luck" you huff and take a step back. 
"What-" before he can finish his sentence, you hear a gunshot and blood splattering everywhere. 
"Nice shot Geonhak!" You shout and give the man a thumb up. "Saved my ass" 
After that little exchange you quickly go on and just smash in people heads left and right. 
One was a tough nut though. 
"You've got some nerves, little girl" a tall man smirks after he smacked the bat out of your hands and a good distance away from you. "Attacking others from behind. Tch" 
"Stop talking, bastard" you growl and pull out your katana, glad you took it with you. "I'll kill you" 
"Try to~" he laughs and throws a punch, but you step aside at the last second. 
"Go to hell!" You yell and swing your blade at him, slicing his cheek and leaving him in shock. 
"You'll pay for that you damn bitch" 
After that, a painful shout came from behind you and you heard Geonhak calling out Youngjo's name. 
"Shit-" you go to turn around and leave this fucker behind, but he kicks away your legs and you fall to the ground. 
"Fuck you" you huff in pain, the katana luckily still in your hand. That's when you see your three companions. 
Geonhak has Youngjo's head in his lap and repeatedly smacks his cheeks to get him to wake up. 
But he won't. 
He's dead. 
"Oh noo~ Did your friend die? What a shame" the man mocks and laughs. 
You clench your hand around the handle of the katana and roll onto your back and thrust the blade right into his torso. 
"What-" He coughs in shock before falling to the floor backwards. 
You just stand up and run towards the guys now, falling to your knees next to Youngjo's lifeless body in Geonhak's lap. 
"Who did this?" You ask, emotionless, eyes void of anything but rage. 
"I did" Geonhak mumbles, hanging his head. "I wanted to shoot the fucker you were fighting, but Hyung caught the bullet" 
You remain silent, but you see Seoho behind Geonhak going rigid. "You… killed Youngjo Hyung…?" 
"It was an accide-" 
Geonhak couldn't finish his sentence. Seoho slit his throat right there and the green haired man's blood splattered your already dirty face even more. 
But you weren't fazed. You couldn't help him anymore anyways. 
That's when you noticed just how quiet everything suddenly was, so you looked around and saw corpses upon corpses. 
"When did this happen?" You ask and look at Seoho, his blank stare not bothering you at all as you stand up. 
"I killed the last person before I saw you guys here" He answers and you step away from the two men on the ground, dead and bleeding out. 
You heard Seoho walking up next to you. "So this is it? We go home after this and try to get our lives back together?" 
"Not necessarily" he says, "we can stay together" 
"What do you mean?" 
"People who kill together, stay together" he explains and smiles. He actually looks cute and for a second you forgot that he's a serial killer. 
But so are you. 
"That sounds nice" you smile back. 
"So now it's you and I on top of it all" He whispers and pulls you in close by the waist. "You're mine" 
Your hands wander up to his shoulders and you move closer. "Only yours" you mumble against his lips and he closes the gap, greedily moving his mouth against yours. His grip on your waist tightens and pulls you impossibly closer. 
You'll never forget this day. 
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