#Ppl say Alice and Orpheus are wholesome siblings... but these ''wholesome siblings'' reference a myth about lovers. so.

[theprinceandthewitch]

So, I'm catching up on IDV lore at my own pace. I don't have the full picture between Orpheus and Alice yet... but uh.

Does... does IDV actually want me to see Orpheus and Alice as adopted siblings... because one of Alice's [Little Girl] S-tier skins is called Eurydice. Eurydice is also mentioned as an option you can make during Alice's nightmare in Ashes of a memory part 2. This name is based on the Greek myth of Orpheus and Eurydice and... um...

Those two were not siblings LMAO.

IDK man,... like... In Ashes of a Memory part two, we have Orpheus call her "Eurydice" when she's dreaming, then we are given 3 options to choose from: Alice, Eurydice and the players name. When you pick Eurydice, Orpheus [as an adult] comes out of the light to deliver Alice from the dream, which is... hmm. He also comes when you pick Alice, except he appears as a child.

And from what I can tell so far, they don't remember each other and it doesn't look like they'll ever get a happy ending. Orpheus' Birthday letter titled "A Scrunched Letter" is describing a future event. This letter doesn't refer to Alice and Orpheus as siblings - just that they've known each other for a long time... I still need to read some more information to know what exactly a "long time" means. Does it mean Orpheus and Alice remember being childhood friends? Does it mean they still dont remember being childhood friends, but they've been friends since they met as adults at the manor?

I mean, I still need to catch up on the lore, but it is... an interesting choice to have Alice be delivered from her dream by Orpheus, since the Greeks viewed sleep and death as closely related concepts. In Greek mythology, Hypnos, the god of Sleep is the twin brother of Thanatos, the god of non-violent death. So to have Orpheus be the figure that guides Alice [Eurydice] out of her dream [returning her to the living] is... very interesting to me.

Unfortunately for Orpheus, it looks like he's playing his role in the myth to a tee and with an added bonus. He seems to be trapped in a never-ending cycle - one where he fails to bring Eurydice back to life over, and over again.

That's.. uh... hmmm...

Also, I'm looking through Orpheus' wiki and it says he and Alice were childhood friends, but after his parents were murdered his relatives sent him off to an orphanage...

I've watched his backstory video and his backstory is shown in AOM part 2... so idk where people are getting the info that her family adopted him lmao.