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POWERPOINT PART TWO IS HERE!
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The Youngblood Chronicles as Patrickās Career: The Master Post
So. In a bout of extended tinfoil haberdashery, I examined the entirety of Fall Out Boyās Youngblood Chronicles horror movie/music videos as an allegory for Patrickās solo career during the hiatus. Clocking in at just around 12,000 words, each post features the interpretation and a link to the video. Here are the 10 videos, interpreted:
The Phoenix : Changed and Raised
Young Volcanoes : For Your Consumption
Alone Together : Alone in the Dark, It's All Just Me
The Mighty Fall : Lost In the Burning Woods
Just One Yesterday : The Rot At the Core
Where Did The Party Go : Kill Your Darlings, Darling--They're Already Dead
Death Valley : When you Walk Through Hell, You Come Out On Fire
Rat-A-Tat : Hitting Rock Bottom
Miss Missing You : Remember Where You Came From, Boy
Save Rock And Roll: Back To The Places That We Never Shoulda Left
I didnāt bother doing āMy Songs Know What You Did In the Darkā because itās the hiatus itself. The band burned their bridges and split (and the Vixens burned their merch) and they were all tied up in the back of a van with gunny-sacks over their heads. It was about Patrick thinking he had to seal off the creative conduits he shared with the band so that he could pursue solo music of a different sound.
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also can we talk about "can you read my eulogy" in terms of. the way patrick always has pete words, he's the one who declaims them. like. this song has so much in it, i'm not even given to tinhatting tbqh but there's just so much in it
I have been dying of this since you sent it! itās like, by choosing and then singing these lyrics (again and againāthe Kerrang interview Iām rabid about today talks about how vulnerable he felt recording that track, and how much he didnāt like feeling that way and letting so much of his real unadorned self show), Patrick is answering the question. of course Iāll read your eulogy, you idiot, Iāve read every other damn thing you gave me for the past 20 years. god. will I ever be okay again??
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Hot Tumblr take: Youngblood Chronicles is the nightmare version of Patrick's solo career.
When I get off mobile, I will elaborate. Get her aluminum haberdashery ready...
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Remember when I made that peterick flavoured song power point. Well, I decided to do it again itās more of an analysis and less of me screaming in a power point. I wonāt say this is a good analysis, but I had fun writing it and thatās the important part! Analysis under read more because it is long <3
Saturday
The connection to Peterick on the whole is loose but their relationship is pivotally mentioned twice with the recurring segment of āme and Peteā setting them as a set pair in the narrative
The idea of the song centers on Patrick (the writer) and the apprehension he isĀ experiencing as he leaves the security of institutional education and faces the reality of the real world where he may fail and/or amount to nothing. The song captures the essence of the ācoming of ageā narrative, a narrative in which the relationships that the speaker/writer has holds a great deal of value. So subsequently that note of it being āhim and Pete, in the wake of Saturdayā therefore has a higher emphasis and accentuates their connection in the context.
āMe and Pete, in the wake of Saturdayā the emotion of the line conveys the idea that the view is that it is him and Pete against the world in a way. While the narrative is mainly focused on Patrick facing the world, this line gives the idea that he is aware that he isnāt facing it alone and had Pete on his side as he entered this new era of his life.
Disloyal Order of Water Buffalo
Most notably in this song, the line āwhat a match, Iām half doomed, and youāre semi-sweetā was annotated by Pete who said that while it generally refers to anybody you feel close to, to him āit was sometimes a girl but honestly sometimes it was Patrickā. This annotation from Pete speaks for itself and sets up the notion of referring to Patrick in the song.
āIām a loose bolt of a complete machineā follows the idea of him being a part of a whole and when related to the following line referring to āa matchā the notion that Pete is only half of a whole and the other half could easily be Patrick given that Patrick is already half of one of Peteās described wholes. And it is to be noted that traditionally Pete and Patrick work as two halves of a whole as they are the writer and speaker, Pete having before mentioning that he feels that sings through Patrick. They are necessary to one another, the other needing their counterpart in order to go on.
There are elements of unrequited emotions with the chorus of āboycott loveā however it is contradicted with ādetox just to retoxā which gives the impression that while there is an urge to push away the emotions and a temporary moment of success in doing so the result is always the same, the result being falling back into those feelings. Thus creating an endless cycle. This trend to push back feelings only to have them come back is common in close proximity situations and those with delicate balances to be maintained. These two relationship parameters can easily be applied to Pete and Patrick.
G.I.N.A.S.F.S
ātrade baby blues for wide eye brownsā could be applied as a reference to Pete and Patrickās eyes as Patrick has blue eyes and Pete has brown. The could relate to the idea of separation, a theme that is prevalent in the song, and the notion of having to trade having Patrickās eyes present to being alone with his own brown eyes.
The recurring theme of wanting to reconnect and find solace in something/someone familiar. The imagery of wearing clothes that formerly belonged to someone who he cared about deeply as well as the fact that he ākisses their traced shadowsā sets up a significant emphasis on the longing he is experiencing. This longing could be projected onto Patrick given the strength of their bond and the fact that the separation of the two could/has spawned such emotions.
āitās a strange way of saying that I know Iām supposed to love youā the use of āsupposedā gives the idea that Pete feels this love is predestined, that he was always supposed to love Patrick in some capacity. This notion is reinforced by the numerous times that Pete describes his and Patrickās relationship/friendship as something that was meant to always be and that there was no way that they were never going to find each other.
āyou saved my life that night on the roof of your hotelā there is a story of Patrick literally saving Peteās life and this could be a direct reference to that however that is highly debated and there isnāt much credibility to the story itself. And so this could be less literal in itās meaning, instead the notion of Patrick saving his life in some capacity can be drawn out by his presence in Peteās life which has likely been a positive influence and contributed to the healing process that Pete went through while getting out of the dark place he had been in
ālips pressed close to mine true blueā this line is notable as Pete has before referred to Patrick as ātrue blueā. Similarly, there are many instances in which Pete has kissed Patrickās face and while their lips havenāt necessarily met there are instances that have resulted in a situation that is similar to the described ālips pressed close to mineā, their lips being close together but not touching one another.
Get Busy Living or Get Busy Dying (Do Your Part to Save the Scene and Stop Going to Shows)
The link to any peterick-isms is sparse in this and is limited to the bridge where both of their vocals are present, going back and forth. Which is somewhat significant given the rareness of them sharing vocals.
āI used to obsess over living, now I only obsess over youā communicates the idea that focus has been shifted almost fully onto the other, to the extent that living is secondary.Ā And while itās not as severe as suggested, Pete has been known to place a high amount of focus on Patrick that could just about border on obsession at times.
Miss Missing You
Ā A critical factor in this track was that its conception happened during hiatus, Patrick having written a majority of the track while he worked on Soul Punk material. It is natural to assume that the song could be reflective of how he was feeling as there is a profound longing that is conveyed in the lyrics. And the fact that Patrick specifically set aside the song because it felt like a song that could only be done justice by the band lends to the idea that the song also related to a connection between himself and the band.
With the context of Patrick having written a majority of Miss Missing You during his solo era, the line āI know Iām the one you to forgetā conveys the idea that Patrick was acutely aware of the chasm that had grown between them. And given that prior to this there had been a lot of tension between them it leads you to believe that he felt he would be better forgotten and he feels Pete should/has been making an effort to forget him. It gives a tone of a messy break-up that neither party really wanted to happen.
ābaby, you were my picket fenceā invokes the imagery of past normality and stability. The āpicket fenceā is normally associated with settling down and a stable life as often it is said that the dream is to āget married and settle down in a house with a white picket fenceā. This all being so, it would heavily imply that Patrick viewed Pete as his own kind of stability, that Pete was tantamount at the time to settling down.
The imagery used in āhot whiskey eyesā reflects the appearance of Peteās eyes with a close accuracy as Peteās eyes are a warm shade of brown, a similar shade to most common whiskeys.
Outside of the lyrics, the direction of the music video presses upon their dynamic and relationship. While this is almost purely in context to the Youngblood Chronicles, the music video centers upon the tragedy of having to kill your best friend as you have no choice to do. Particular attention is to be placed on scenes after Pete dies and Patrick is brought out of his trace to realise what he has done before ultimately dying himself. As well, the way theyāre laying in their death is reflective of a ying yang given the way that they are head to toe with one another.
What a Catch, Donnie
From the outset Pete himself has said that he wrote this Patrick. He has related it to a āthank youā as well as a promise that he wonāt give himself up on himself (in reference to his prior suicide attempt)
There are references in the song to Donald Hathaway and Roberta Flack (āDonnieā and āMiss Flack said I still want you backā) set up a strong symbolic parallel with them and Pete and Patrick. This is because Hathaway and Flack had found success in their duets but after struggling greatly with mental illness Hathaway took his own life, and so they parallel Pete and Patrick who have found success in their dynamic of lyricist and vocalist as well as Pete who has had his own struggles with mental illness and suicide.
Connecting to the parallel later in the lyrics it is stated āI will never end up like him, behind my back I already amā and āall I can think of is the Iām the one who charmed, the one who gave up on youā, which is like an exchange between Pete and Patrick. As if Pete is making a promise not to give up and Patrick is making his own promise to not give up on him as long as he doesnāt give up on himself first.
Americaās Suitehearts (second verse)
The whole song isnāt applicable to Pete and Patrick, however the second verse is very much in keeping with the pairās dynamic
āyou can bow and pretend that you donāt, donāt know youāre a legendā connected with ā(yeah sorry, I just) let my love loose againā is extremely reminiscent of Pete and Patrickās dynamic. Patrick has shown himself to be more reserved and humble, downplaying his own talents whereas Pete will heap praise upon Patrick at any given opportunity and tell everyone how talented he is. It could be said that he continually lets his love for Patrick loose.
Iāve Got a Dark Alley and a Bad Idea That Says You Should Shut Your Mouth
This is based on more of an angsty interpretation of their relationship, one that is more reminiscent of a messy van days situation
ājoke me something awful just like kisses on the necks of ābest friendsāā is a line that communicates a sense of desperation and messy emotions shared by ābest friendsā, which is easy to label them as since they often present themselves as best friends.
āIām hopelessly hopeful, youāre just hopeless enoughā follows that tone of utter desperation between two young-ish men in a complicated period of their lives.
Twin Skeletons
The core point of the song is that it is all about love and commitment. The running narrative being that the narrator is committed and connected to the other in a way that is akin to that of a soulmate. This links to them in a way that on numerous occasions Pete and Patrick have expressed that they share a bond that is similar to that of soulmates, occasionally going as far as conveying the idea that theyāre almost a single person.
Last Of The Real Ones
āyou were too good to be true, gold platedā the use of gold imagery always invokes the idea of Patrick as more often than not Pete refers to him as āhis golden ticketā or just purely āgoldenā. Similarly the notion of him being ātoo goodā matches Peteās perception of Patrick as he always describes him in a way that almost transcends pure good.
Heaven's Gate
The general notion throughout the song of devotion and giving over your heart to someone else is very reminiscent of Pete and Patrickās dynamic.
āif there were any more left of me, Iād give it to youā conveys an idea that can be related to them as Pete gives over himself through the means of his lyrics he gives himself over to Patrick in a small way.
āgive me a boost over heaven's gateā is a line that is symbolic of them mostly through the notion that Pete thinks Patrick borders on perfect (acceptable for heaven) and has since moved past being bitter or angst ridden over his goodness and now instead asks for a proverbial boost because he wants to stay with him (get into heaven with him) [I would like to credit Red falloutgirlboy for this particular piece of analysis]
The Kids Arenāt Alright
While this can be read in the context of the whole band it can also be honed in on for Pete and Patrick since they are definitely best friends (this comes up) and this is a peterick reading.
āand in the end Iād do it all again I think youāre my best friendā is a very direct line and mostly speaks for itself. They have always expressed their closeness so it is not a stretch to label them as best friends. And given the strength of their bond it is natural to assume that they would go through it all again if it just meant that they would be together.
Itās Not a Side Effect of the Cocaine, I Think It must Be Love
This is another instance of a song that simply just reflects the nature of Patrick and Peteās relationship. Itās intrinsic to their close bond with one another and the way that translates into interactions and perceptions.
āwhy can you read me like no one else, I hide behind these wordsā is a line that places specific attention on the closeness that is shared and the ability to read the other. Patrick has mentioned before that it is like they know one anotherās thoughts, which then translates to the notion of them being able to read the other with ease. While in the same vein, Pete often expresses himself through his lyrics and no other means which links to the idea of him hiding behind his words.
āWeāll make them so jealous, weāll make them hate usā reads as an aspirational thought and given the context of the time, they were burgeoning on becoming something really big. And given the fact that within the band their roles are very connected, being the lyricist and vocalist, if one is making it then theyāre both making it, theyāre in it together. Which then means theyāll find success together, theyāll make them jealous and hate them together.
#now i won't say this is good because it's probably not but we ball!!!#peterick#lyric analysis#pete wentz#patrick stump#fob#fall out boy
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May nothing but death do us part/baby please will you read my eulogy.... I know there are some other lyrics that aren't wedding vows but are functionally serving the same end which is some sort of "I want you with me for the entire rest of my life" declaration but I'm blanking on them because I'm so stuck on this parallel of 'may death do us part but when it DOES I want you to be the one reflecting on my life and sending me off"
the first time I listened to Heaven Iowa I sent @carbonbased000 a message yelling about, ARE THESE LITERALLY VOWS, no joke
The other big ones that stand out to me are Uma Thurmanākeep me like an oathāand Hum Hallelujahāteenage vow in a parking lot, til tonight do us part.
truly this album is incredible; I cannot credit it; this is so gay I couldnāt even invent it
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āI felt you at the beginning but needed you at the endā is such a specific thing to fucking say isnāt it??????? god god GOD
Thinking about 'I felt you at the beginning but needed you at the end' and how 'you were the sunshine of my lifetime' is in both the beginning and the end of the album. And imploding of course
Tagging @shark-myths in this since she's the resident FOB meta-writer :)
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YBC Hot Takes: The Phoenix
Remember a few days ago I dropped a Hot Take that Youngblood Chronicles was actually Patrickās solo career during the hiatus? Well, strap in and strap on, kids, Iām about to start a whole Lecture Series here at the Peterick Institute for FOB Meta and Fine Purveyors of Flexible Metallurgic Haberdashery. Iāmma break this out into separate posts because I do like to go on, and will tag the series.
Iāll be focusing on the video aspects more than the lyrics, because one big part of Fall Out Boyās modus operandi is to create artistic disruption via cognitive dissonance between the songs and the videos. While each medium expresses a coherent narrative, theyāre frequently at odds with each other on the surface levels (unless viewed within a multimedia continuum of the history of the band and its members).
The Phoenix: Changed and Raised
Save Rock and Roll emerged seemingly out of nowhere, catapulting Fall Out Boy back into the scene and onto the charts, and the ambitious project that YBC turned out to be only added fuel to the fire. But itās no secret that the hiatus, while necessary, shook some of the foundations of Fall Out Boyās dynamic enough for them to grow as people and as a band, but in so doing, it also had to rip away some illusions and shove each of them outside their comfort zones...and into dangerous, painful territory. Follow me below the cut to dig deeper...
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The boys open the mysterious briefcase. They're all in agreement that whatever's in there is amazing, and it's amazing enough to handcuff to Patrick's wrist. Off you go, lad, with your not-at-all-suspicious-looking briefcase to some tranquil suburban neighborhood where you can get some rest and wear your cute little fedora and be your cute little self. Kids on bikes, little houses with white picket fences, nice green lawns, holy shit masked marauding wimmins comin' outta nowhere to taze your snack-sized ass--
It's telling that Patrick is out with his precious musical mcguffin strapped to his wrist and a kid crosses his path. Fall Out Boy's members have always called their fans "kids" even when those "kids" have kids of their own (who are now going to Fall Out Boy Concerts, but that's a sidequest). They do what they do "for the (starry-eyed) kids" (who feel like dead ends/who didn't make it/who never had it at all/you used to love but then we grew old...). At the same time the kid and Patrick make the connection, share a smile (Hey, do you like me? This thing I made? I know it's not the same as the last thing, but--), we learn that the kid was just a decoy. Bait. A distraction from the masked (adult) vixen to ambush Patrick and toss him into the windowless van behind the kid.
He's taken to a shadowy torture warehouse where everything from jackhammers to meat cleavers (and I will swear there was a flash of a speculum in there which *somebody* had to have a laugh over, but the significance of gender in Fall Out Boy videos is an entirely different academic track all its own here at the Peterick Institute). And Patrick's hand gets the chop-chop.
MEANWHILE...
Cut to Pete, curled up in bed with a girlfriend in a suburban house, doing the domestic thing. He says he was supposed to be naked, but he chickened out at the last minute, which is also telling (the prelude to the hiatus had him saying that the world had had enough Pete Wentz, and that colors his interactions even today). During the hiatus, Pete's putting his life together the best way he knows how--looking for the picket fences and the things we are all told are "normal." Maybe he's even getting some rest. He's interrupted when The Kid (The Fans) knocks on his door and delivers a gruesome Message.
Not only gruesome, but dropped into a grocery bag and hung on Pete's doorknob in a drive-by. At first glance, Pete looks at it and shrugs and goes back to whatever he was doing, but let's not get sidetracked by a drive-by suggestion of self-absorption or a whiff of an inability to cope with or comprehend what just happened right away, because Pete is not as dumb as he looks. He knows that anything Patrick does will always have Fall Out Boy hanging over him like a meat cleaver, cutting him off musically, until his connection is literally severed (the hand with the FOB tattoo is cut off). Not to mention, the whole media-circus vortex of The Life And Dramatic Times Of Pete Fucking Wentz that can't help but catch Patrick up in it. It's not out of the realm of possibility that Patrick has deliberately severed this vital part of himself in a pointed and violent, yet impersonal, way. To a heartbroken and head-fucked Pete, it's crossed his mind that he may have driven the people he cares about to drastic measures to escape his toxicity.
We all want to know why Pete eschewed cell phones, landlines, email, snail mail, fucking Western Union telegrams, or just driving over to his friends' places to check up on them in favor of sending a cryptic Raptor-Gram, but let's not forget the fact that during the hiatus they sometimes communicated through tweets to other people, media interviews or drive-by postings and hearsay. But whatever message Pete's trying to send becomes lost in translation, because it doesn't quite get to the other band members in time.
Andy in a parking lot, maybe a little stalled at the hiatus while he catches his breath, and Joe, at the gas station, trying to take a road-trip far away from all this bullshit. Hey, does this rag smell like chloroform? Didn't you guys learn not to get thrown into windowless vans with weirdos.
But where's our boy Pete? He might be sending Raptor-Grams to his buds, but he's let a viper into his bed as his girl, dressed in menace and eyeliner (let's table, for a moment, her 'vintage 2007 Pete Wentz' eyeliner game because there's a whole world of subtext ripe for speculation about how Eyeliner!Pete could be a funhouse-mirror Agent of Chaos for everybody in his orbit) pounces and, instead of chloroform or tazers, injects him with a chemical cocktail of distortion in order to get him into the van.
Back to Patrick at the charnel house, who's singing his heart out while the rest of his organs are being harvested as he pulls his intestines out and puts them on a wax pressing to vinyl. His hand's gone, because he's played his heart (and lungs and kidneys, and maybe a spleen, too). But the rest of his guts have been taken out and arranged on silver platters (or vinyl pressings, as it were), ready to be consumed by anyone who's interested.
Patrick himself is seated at the head of the ornately laid-out table, with feeder lines going into and out of his veins as he waits for the world to come consume the thing he's worked so hard and bled so much for, even down to the point of painfully severing a beloved and necessary part of him (the h(b)and).
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Can we as Petericks talk about the lyric āI feel so A Star Is Bornā in Heaven Iowa bc that movie killed me and I HATE the implications of it but its so good. Patrick is Gaga and Pete is Bradley Cooper. Iām going insane!!!!! Someone else chime in Iām eating cardboard.
my major contribution is that this needs to be a fic immediately! and also that in order to āfeel so a star is bornā we have to be at a point in time where that movie is already released to serve as a glib reference. that whole little verse sounds so much like pandemic songwriting hangouts when the world was empty and still and only belonged to the two of them and Beethoven. roll tape on heartbreak, pls
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@toorational WRITE A META
i am gutted
Fall Out Boy + last album lines
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does anyone have a lyrics booklet? i am so not convinced that word is "babe" and not "bane" in so much for stardust because pw really leans in one particular way but the internet is taking the sweet heart-eyes route and i'm not mad about that either
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Can I ask you something, am I right to think that Patrick likes it when Pete likes him best? During watching some of their interviews I got a sense he likes it when other people compliment him, even as he gets shy about it, but that he only actually deeply cares if Pete confirmes it and compliments him on the same thing, he gets this look on his face...and also he gets twitchy and looks kinda jealous when people come on to Pete during interviews? He likes it to seem like he doesn't care but he cares so much?
10/10 agree!!!
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Hello! I was feeling the urge to tinhat about peterick and I pretty much consider you the one place to go to for that. I'm thinking about a lot right now, thanks to the amazing wealth of lyrics that Pete has gifted us (there has not been such a consistent reference to "summer" since ABAP and I'm losing my mind over it a little bit), but the main thing I'm thinking about is that "I just need someone to hold me even though you don't even know me" can only be about Patrick. Why? I'm glad you asked! I can back it up. For one, this harks all the way back to Hold Me Tight or Don't which is, for obvious reasons, peterick coded. Not only that, the "hold me" motif is used again in Hold Me Like A Grudge, which makes that song even more strongly linked to peterick, even disregarding the insanity of "twenty summers" (which I am not disregarding, by the way). So that's the "hold me" bit of that original line covered. There's also the latter bit, the "you don't even know me," which, yeah, doesn't seem very peterick-y, not in the way we like to think of them, but I will point out "part time soulmate, full time problem" and "you don't know me anymore" are also lines in this album that point to being Patrick-related (for the latter, because I don't believe the former needs much justification, something about the house Pete grew up in and its relation to Chicago and thus its relation to Patrick) (I would say I was reaching here, but I've gathered that's basically how Pete's brain works, so let's call it a reasonable assumption?).
Additionally, and more in appreciation of Pete's writing than any specific shippy thing, I'm a big fan of "if you put your heart in it then we'll do more than just get by together" because it sounds a lot like that last phrase could be "get together," and there's a lot on this album about missed opportunities/parallel universes/etc.
One more thing (I'm just rambling now, sorry) but the scar/star crossed lovers line is really just a bit of genius. It's almost a wink towards the listener, not just at the twist of the phrase but also because there's been so many instances of the star motif and space in general in the lyrics that I feel like it has to be a nod towards the instances when cosmic objects have been referenced (such as in The Last of the Real Ones).
Okay that's probably enough for one ask lol. I look forward to part two of your presentation!
YES šš½ YES šš½ YES
I have nothing coherent to add because you are nailing it and this record has me in shreds
tinh@ me always ((is that too dumb? yes)), itās what I live for, keep it coming!!!
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@shark-myths @secretstudentdragonblog @earlgreytea68 @so-i-grudgingly-joined-this-site more research fodder for Peterick Institute purposes




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properly uploading images, stay tuned! powerpoint part two goes live this afternoon
#honestly someone please make me sit down and fix the image links for all my fic#they used to be so beautiful#peterick institute#tryst theory#letās go#smfs
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my thoughts are incoherent screams at this moment. wheels turning, output coming soon
#powerpoint part two#thanks d#fob#lyrics meta#fob deep lore analysis#peterick institute#so much for stardust#smfs
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