#Only saying this because you hurt my headmate but I would have this same stance if she wasn't here

[lemonxlimee]

Alright since leafy is a.) Not here right now because of this FUCKING ask and b.) Too much of a coward to express her distaste even if she was here, I guess I'm doing it for her (since I'm being brainwashed into being nice and also Fuck you for hurting my headmate.)

"Overrated" -- I can count on 1 hand the amount of Leafy fans I've met, and we're "one" of them.

"Her firey arc was good" -- That was one of the main plots in bfdi~bfb and it STILL never got resolved. Leafy apologized, Firey never apologized. Also, it wasn't good, in my opinion. It was poorly written.

"Stealing the island was uncalled for" -- I don't know if you've noticed, anon (maybe you haven't because you refuse to analyze her character), but she is very impulsive and probably has bipolar disorder. She quite literally cannot help it. She obviously regrets it later on, but when she says she's not in the mood to talk it out (who would be??!), Pin immediately says to give her the death penalty. She never got a chance to talk it out. Speaking of which,

"She could have talked it out with Firey" -- if you're willing to read, here's the transcript from the episode. If you're not, basically Leafy tries to talk it out with Firey, but keeps getting interrupted. The gate was closed before she even had a chance to respond.

I don't know about you, but it doesn't sound like Leafy is entirely in the wrong here.

5. "she had to be so petty to steal it" -- As i said before, Leafy has problems. She's impulsive and bipolar and it's made clear in the series leading up to and following this that she has low control over her emotions when she feels negatively towards something (or someone.) She was being petty, sure, but you can't blame her.

6. "She was so rude in bfb too" -- She was trapped in yoyleland all alone for 4+ years. I'd be rude too. Not to mention she was probably relearning all her social mannerisms, and people still didn't talk to her because firey had to go and yell about how she stole dream island - what was it, 5 years ago? She was antagonized behind her back and even when she tried to patch things up, she got ignored, hated and ridiculed. And that's just before her elimination in episode 3. We barely saw her after her rejoin if she wasn't arguing with firey, but again, can you blame her? You can't fix that kind of stuff in a day.

7. As for post-split, you can tell she's much happier - genuinely - and although she is still impulsive and a bit rude, like I said, she can't help it. She's more polite and active in the competition, whereas we saw she barely participated after her rejoin in pre-split. She's talking to people more friendly, and she even joins an alliance near the end of the season. You can tell she's clearly getting better. Even when she had an argument with firey in bfb 22, she looks sad and sorrowful, whereas Firey is still yelling and sounds angry and defensive. She's moving on, or trying to, and sure it's taking a while but who's saying she's not making some progress?

8. "Get back to yoyleland bucko" -- Genuinely, for this, fuck you.

Final thoughts: you're wrong. Leafy is cool.

i like actually HATE leafy so much she is SO overrated

her firey arc was good and I like her a little more now but stealing the island was uncalled for. she could've talked it out with firey but noo she had to be so petty to steal it... she was so rude in bfb too like??? get back to yoyleland bucko

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[ghost-of-a-system]

About your comic + the response to it ;; Our troubles have also been with other systems. I still remember one of our headmates whos sourceself was like, hard to find stuff for, found another fictive of the same source.

They were friends until the other one realized ours is non-canon and stuck with his "abuser" ( he isn't in his canon ).

I've also become really paranoid and really self aware of our system due to other systems Behaviors. I don't mind systems that talk to each other via pk in public servers but the way some of them went about it made us double down on doing it ourselves.

I've had too many introjects say "are you crushing on me". No. Its already weird for me to have an introject myself of that person/character, don't make it harder on me /nay

HOWEVER on the plus side my friend/partner group is systems and have been very helpful and kind so. Not all is lost.

these are definitely understandable & valid feelings! we can imagine how it might've felt to have someone you called a friend basically tell you (whether outright or through actions/words) that their friendship and care for you is only dependent on your shared source. (i hope it's okay if we share our experiences, we do so because we see it as an "i can understand how you feel, you aren't alone"; we never mean to try to 'one-up' anyone! :'))

for the first, we have had a similar experience in the past. it was very hurtful and made the alter in our system involved very uncomfortable and self-conscious. the relationship mattered a large amount to them, and they didn't want to lose it. so, after that, they literally started lying and practically gaslighting themself into believing they had the same pseudomemories as their friend whenever they came up. this lasted almost all the way up until they went dormant over a year later (for unrelated reasons) and was a very unhealthy and damaging cycle. i don't want to get too into how it affected them in the long-term, but i'll just say it was very hard and painful to watch.

as for the public servers bit, we definitely understand where you're coming from, i think? i'm going to assume you're referring to systems using pluralkit to talk to each other, as in, other alters in their own system, and not other systems in general. but i think i know what you're referring to with that. i'm not really sure how to put it into words, though. i think we're (personally) just very particular about our own behavior, as well as what we're willing to share. we are not comfortable speaking to our other alters with pluralkit publicly, but it's hard to say whether that's simply because we don't want to, or because we're conscious of others' judgement and/or comfort. like, even not online, we're comfortable talking out loud to each other (when we're alone) because we find it easier to communicate that way. but we would never do that around someone else, system or not. but we've known other systems who are comfortable doing it around other people, and like, that's cool too. whatever helps ya, at least in our opinion, but i get what you mean.

the introject thing you mention is kind of complicated for us, because we all have different views on source separating. we all believe in the same definition of it (the one susie described in its comic), but at varying intensities, if that makes any sense. at the end of the day, we personally couldn't care less about another system's stance with source separating their introjects. like unless something happens where it somehow directly affects us, in that case which we would probably say something, but just to whoever was personally involved. our overall main issue with introjects publicly treating themselves as their source is the influence it has on those interacting with or reading the discussion. i think it reinforces this simply false idea that we are confined to our source, to not just singlets/non-systems, but even to other systems. being in, especially servers, places where that is taking place makes us reluctant to involve ourselves in the conversation, in fear that everyone will then apply that ideology to us, which we just aren't okay with.

i'm glad you're able to at least have a few people/spaces you feel comfortable in, though! they are definitely there, even if sometimes it takes a bit of digging.

sorry for the huge essay. poke us with a subject and if the right alter is fronting, your ask will be answered with a book x) hope anything i said actually applied to the original ask haha, i can go on huge rants, so i am sorry !!