#Mumbo's gonna be twinning with his son

[cremenom]

Mumbo lost the waffle and started aging & now he's trying to look into artificial intelligence and immortality. Is he gonna become a robot?

He lost Grian's soul and started to age. Mumbo's hair might start to get even grayer. He needs that waffle back to stay immortal.

[doctorsiren]

Siren I had this dumb idea where instead of Iskall being Doom Guy, it’s Mumbo. And the dude just showed up in Season 2 on the exact day (albeit a month or so later) after Doom Guy died, with ZERO MEMORY. So Xisuma just kinda named him Mumbo. Now, imagine Watchers attacked the season 9 server. And after Mumbo comes back, he sees the wreckage and INSTANTLY gets a series of flashbacks and gears up to save the Hermits. I NEED you to make this a thing please

Sorry but I’m too attached to Dadskall because it makes sense and it’s got a basis to it /lh

Cuz in s2, mumbo was 17, so that wouldn’t make sense either

And I already have an AU where Mumbo has a doomsuit ^^ it’s a seablings AU where Mumbo’s egg (bc twin with Jimmy) gets carried away from where Jimmy’s egg was and is found on a beach by little kid X and Alex when they were in the overworld with Doomguy for a little bit

I’m gonna copy and paste an old message I sent about it in my Discord server here:

— start of the discord message —

“I’m thinking about that one Seablings Jumbros AU where Mumbo’s a salmon and little X find the egg and asks DG if he can keep it bc there’s nothing else around, and DG says yes and whoops instead X and Alex having a new pet, and they have a new brother-

And so I was thinking

Doomguy doesn’t wanna tell Mumbo’s how different he really is from the rest of his family

Unlike X and Alex, Mumbo was literally born and raised in this household

And so I’m thinking that DG would probably tell Mumbo that he was his dad

X and Alex know he’s adopted, but they’re not supposed to tell him

And so Mumbo grows up believing Doomguy is his actual father and that’s why he doesn’t have wings like X and Alex, who everyone knows is adopted

And when Mumbo inevitably asks about who his mom is, DG tells him that Arlene was, but that she died (the death part is true but it happened years before DG even rescued the twins)

Mumbo is named by Xisuma, who insisted that it was his right to name him bc he found the egg, so he names him Mumbo Jumbo because it’s a silly term he heard someone say once and also because it’s what he called the egg bc it was bigger than normal eggs he had seen before

Doomguy gives in and allows X to name Mumbo that, but he himself gives Mumbo the middle name William Joseph, naming him after DG’s great grandfather, his own father, his brother, and his son, all 4 of which went by some version of William Joseph (but Mumbo says his middle name is BJ)

DG also gives Mumbo one of his own last names so that he feels more connected to a family (the twins still go by Void), and so he decides on Blazkowicz (which is the same last name that Alex ends up taking after him and X have that falling out)

Until the moment he first found out he was a fish dude, Mumbo fully believed that DG was his actual dad and that the twins were the only adopted ones

So man

He finds out he’s adopted, but it’s after their father had died and he has to find out the truth from X

I also thought of an iteration of this AU where it’s combined with Dadskall, so like

Mumbo’s best bestie is actually Doomguy

And I’m considering two versions:

One where he knew that Xisuma revived their father

And one where he didn’t know until Season 7-ish (bc everything I know is set in s7)

(Side tangent, but I was also thinking about Mumbo’s accent

So Mumbo (and the twins) were raised by an American man (from Colorado to be exact, if you’re taking that snippet of lore from the 90s Doom novels)

I explained how everyone else in the End City Capital, save it be for a few non-native watchers / admins, are British or European (so like, Scottish, Irish, all those ones, y’know)

Xisuma had a more English accent because he looked up to his father, yes, but he also wanted to be part of the higher-ups and so he tried to be as much like them as possible

Alex had a mix of an American and English, but fully dropped the hints of an English accent when him and X had their falling out (but FW readers may recall that parts of it still came through when he was v emotional)

So Mumbo…he was raised from birth by this American man and probably would have spent a loooot of time with him because he was different from everyone else and felt more comfortable just being with his dad

So would Mumbo in this AU be American???)

Anyways back to the two versions:

1. He knew already

Mumbo would have to learn to live on this server with this man who is actually his father

But now Mumbo knows that Doomguy was never his real dad

He knows now that he’s adopted

And he so badly wants to talk about it with his dad, but oh no! Our father! He’s broken!

Iskall obvi doesn’t know

And so Mumbo is always spending time with him, trying to see if he can gently nudge him towards remembering

And that’s how they become besties

2. He doesn’t know until s6

Xisuma watches Mumbo as he becomes great friends with Iskall, who Mumbo is unaware is actually Doomguy

He doesn’t wanna tell Mumbo because he’s afraid he’ll tell Iskall and like, accidentally destroy his mind, or that it’ll just be really hard on Mumbo, who already went through the grieving process of both losing his dad and then finding out that his dad wasn’t actually his real dad

But then when Mumbo finds out, it’s because Alex tells him. Mumbo confronts Xisuma and is like “dude, this is yet another thing regarding our family and our dad that you never told me and that you lied about-“ and X realizes that, whoops, oh no, he did just kinda do the same thing he had been doing to Mumbo for years

and then Mumbo is really anxious around Iskall bc he now doesn’t know what words could accidentally like, activate the memories or whatever bc he doesn’t know how it works and this is when he meets Grian and becomes closer with him than Iskall. Ofc him and iskall are still besties, but this is kinda how he shifts more towards Grian’s bestie

Also he’s a fish, so there’s that going on as well, but by this point (S6) , he’s known about it for like 5-6 years

Man his family life

In s7 is when Xisuma is finally able to find out where Mumbo actually came from and who his biological family is, and that’s what he learns about Jimmy (this is before Jimmy and Lizzie knew they were siblings) and so that’s when he brings him to HC under the guise of “visiting Grian and friends” but it’s more to introduce him to Mumbo, who he will then, once they are buddies, tell that Mumbo and Jimmy are brothers

They’re not exactly twins in this version of the AU, but they consider themselves to be since the eggs were laid or whatever at the same time

And then after they find out that cool news and after a few weeks, Jimmy finds out that Lizzie is his older sister, and so he brings Mumbo to Empires to meet Liz, and :D

And also Mumbo introduces Jimmy and Lizzie more formally to Xisuma and Alex because y’know, they’re his brothers”

— End of the discord message —

Sorry for that VERY long post, but yeah I’ve already got something regarding Dadskall and Mumbo and I don’t think it would make sense to replace Iskall with Mumbo (Iskall and DG also already have the same colour scheme and the reason Iskall has that robo eye is bc that’s where DG got blasted by a demon and that’s what killed him)

There’s a lot of thought and intricacies that have gone into the Dadskall AU over the last couple years /lh (and also I would kindly ask that other people not make it a thing since it would be sort of a copy of an idea that me and my friends have had for a few years now)

Anyways I hoped you enjoyed reading this regardless! (And sorry if any of that sounded mean ^^ I just woke up)

[doctorsiren]

Hello I would like to ramble about Doom and the Id Game Universe

I have made a family tree that connects to both my Featherweight and Dadskall AUs (note that in the FW AU, the whole Iskall/Doomguy in the tree doesn’t apply)

*minus Mumbo and Grian’s siblings from my universes

OKAY! So here’s a little explanation!

We start off with William Joseph Blazkowicz (BJ) from the Wolfenstein game series. Upon doing some light research, I found out that his wife’s name was Julia Marie Peterson (Blazkowicz after marriage)

They had a son named Arthur Kenneth Blaze (The surname “Blaze” being a derivative from the surname “Blazkowicz”). This man was a newscaster and married Susan Elizabeth McMichaels (Blaze after marriage). Together they had 3 children. Only one, William Joseph Blazkowicz || (Billy Blaze), was given a canon name in the Commander Keen series, of which he is the protagonist. It is assumed that he is the middle child, having an older brother and younger sister. I decided to go with names that the fandom has theorized on for his siblings: Robert “Bobby” Blaze and Rebecca “Becky” Blaze. The football helmet that Billy wears when he’s acting as Commander Keen belongs to his football-star-brother Bobby.

Using context from the cancelled Commander Keen mobile game, we can see that as an adult, Billy Blaze married an unnamed woman (at the time of writing, I’m assuming she was unnamed). Together they had twins named William Joseph Blazkowicz III (Billy Blaze Jr.) and Billie Blaze (which is a female name). These twins were then going to be the protagonists of the mobile game, which was cancelled by Bethesda.

Now this is where things get a little muddy. It is slightly theorized that Doomguy could potentially be Billy Blaze Jr. (William Joseph Blazkowicz III) because we do know that Doomguy is the son of the original Billy Blaze from the Commander Keen game series. In the pictures shown in the Commander Keen mobile game trailer, however, only two children are seen. Either this means that Doomguy is younger than these twins, OR that he is one of the twins, namely Billy Blaze Jr. Even this is a bit confusing though, since one of Doomguy’s aliases is Stan Blazkowicz and not William Joseph Blazkowicz III (or II…it gets confusing and I’m making things up along the way). Even so, he still could potentially be Billy Blaze Jr.

That aside, Doomguy has many aliases. For the purpose of my universes, the protagonist of all of the Doom games and novels is the same Doom Marine. This would mean that his aliases would be Flynn Taggart and John Kane, to name a few. Multiple identities aside, Doomguy, before he was Doomguy, married an unnamed woman on Earth and had a son together. They also had a cat and, of course, a rabbit named Daisy. His wife, son, cat, and rabbit were all killed in the First Demonic War on Earth.

Now we get into the territory of my universes! Doomguy went on to rescue Xisuma and Alex when they were very young children. I don’t know at what point in the timeline this would occur, and, oh boy, I’m not gonna try to figure out a timeline because DANG it is messy. (Time is odd when Wolfenstein takes place during WWII, Doom 2016 takes place in 2151, Doom Eternal takes place in 2163, and Hermitcraft 7 takes place in 2020…)

When X and Alex were adults, Doomguy was killed by demons. This occurs before Xisuma becomes an admin for the HC server. In the Dadskall AU, Doomguy is then revived as Iskall either RIGHT after his funeral, or sometime briefly before Season 4 of hermitcraft.

Regardless, Xisuma basically adopts the entire server. In my universes, xBcrafted is the youngest hermit (because of the incorrectly listed birthday of his online, listing his birth year as 2000) and Xisuma is kinda like a protector/father-ish figure to him, like how Doomguy was for Xisuma and Alex.

Alex went on, after he was banished and then pushed away by his brother, to inhabit his father’s old base in the Nether, where he finds Daisy. This is a second Daisy, and she’s a “Nether Rabbit” (basically a good little demon rabbit) that looks just like the original Daisy. Despite Doomguy’s hatred towards the demons, he couldn’t bring himself to get rid of this particular one, and so she became Daisy II. (This is literally just so I can explain how she’s still alive after 20+ years)

Back to Xisuma, he is also a kind of protector figure for Grian, who goes on to build a bunch of robot kids with Mumbo.

All in all, Grumbot’s great-great-great-great grandfather punched Nazis, and his great grandfather was literally Doomguy :)