#Kpwt The last Kinnporsche

[moerusai]

Let's go back to the Hidden Messages, when Kinn and Porsche looked in each other's eyes for the first time. And the water came down—

[nattaphum]

NO ONE DOES IT LIKE THEM ❤️

[mr-and-mr-mitchell]

WE FINALLY GOT A KIMCHAY HAPPY ENDING!!

Oh my heart is so full, I'm so happy.

[ohyesididnotjustdothat]

@discluded posted this promo image in response to another post and i have seen it so many times but just today I died bc it looks like Kinn is lifting Porsche a bit and just. my god that man loves lifting his boyfriend; we shoulda got more of that

[lostmykiliel]

Hidden Message KPWT Bangkok Anniversary

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Exactly one year ago happened the last reenactment of the Hidden Message's Rain Scene of Kinnporsche on the last day of the KPWT in Bangkok (though one day later on 26th February Kinnporsche WTF took place). This moment was extra emotional because an era ended.

And to this day I am convinced Porsche (Apo) either wanted to kiss or expected to be kissed by Kinn (Mile).

[matan4il]

Mile returned to Bangkok last night and here's Apo's updates today:

We got this, too:

And Mile re-shared Apo's update. :')

Mile posted from this location, I figure it's probably connected?

The other day, Apo posted a pic of him and Bible from the KPWT, Mile replied, but very noticeably ignored Bible and referred only to Job in the background. Today, Apo teased Mile about it:

And Mile's mom gave us a throwback to the first evening of his visit in Kalasin on Oct 31:

Apo and Mile both teased each other in the comments of their Farmhouse posts, here's Apo replying to Mile:

Here's Mile replying to Apo:

We have a whole saga of Mile asking for a fix for an ipad, a fan tweeting about it, and Apo replying to the tweet without actually acknowledging the fan, just directly replying to Mile, while calling him the more intimate "Phakphum" (no 'phi' needed):

Full translation from Mileapo Safe Place:

Lastly, last night Apo posted a vid of the song Lemon Tree that includes the line, "But all that I can see / is just another lemon tree." Is he admitting he was the guy in the restaurant pic with Mile and his family, celebrating Mile's mom's bday, and blocked out by the lemon tree that got the whole fandom talking?

(for more of my daily Mileapo/Kinnporsche, click here)

[boysbeloving]

Hiii.. How r u doing my friend. I m sad and crying and smiling and everything in between. So not ready for KinnPorsche to end.

Sending u this lovely photo to bribe you to write about his back.

MY DEAR FRIEND!!! <3333

i'm also feeling SOME KIND OF WAY about the last KPWT...as bible said...'don't be sad it ended...be happy it happened'....it's cheesy af but i love cheese so ya...gonna lap that up

BUT COMING DOWN TO BUSINESS THAT IS MILE'S HOT AF BACK....uuuuuufffffff....like....you really didn't have to do this to me you know (the fertile phase of my cycle is going on, bestie THIS IS FAP MATERIAL RIGHT HERE)

at the risk of outing myself as the person who chooses 'massage' in the porn categories, i will massage mile's back with my boobs like those porn ladies (they are VERY HOT btw)....and i want to paste my front on his back and FEEL him move when he does those arm stretches at the gym that build back muscles....like this one

(yes this ^ is mile)

or the ones where the back is straight and the gym equipment is like two bars that one has to separate and bring back

BASICALLY I WANT TO FEEL HIS BACK MUSCLES MOVE AGAINST MY TITS

added bonus for me coz my tits are VERY sensitive and any touch/friction/slide gets me VERY wet so yay me!! (i also want to dip my fingers into my cunt and then run my wet fingers down the middle of his back)

also....if i'm riding his ass for fun (coz lbr that ass is quite juicy i just want to feel those ass cheeks between my thighs) i can hold on to those shoulders for balance coz damn they be looking VERY HOLDABLE

i know there are mile back appreciators in the fandom I KNOW YOU GUYS....so yes i completely understand why one can thirst over someone's back

also ALSO also...i would gladly massage his back in a non-sexual, strictly actual massage way....i personally am not very good at taking massages, they somehow end up hurting me more lol (i'm like my dad in this) BUT i give very good massages...and honestly...i feel mile could use some....man's got too much going on...i would love to get him to relax a bit

who am i kidding i'm sure he gets massages on the regular (actual and the sexual ones too i think)....good for him <33

thanks for this my dear friend

[discluded]

KinnPorsche is my first view into BL fandom. Every time BOC announces something the comments from many fans are all about what they want instead and how the announcement is bad for the artists they have. Wtf? This level of entitlement from fans who have no insight into the actual business or plans is so disheartening. Is this normal? Like they announced a tour date for HK and people are like why another tour date, we need a series, we need the artist to be actors etc. Do they think making a series costs nothing? Do they not recall we got 14 WHOLE amazing episodes? It all breaks my heart.

Hey, I don't usually talk about fandom drama but sure I'll bite since time it's about business and I guess there's going to be new people coming in once in a while (hopefully!) wondering about why the fandom is so messed up.

Anyone who doesn't want to hear about the merry-go-round of drama from the last 6 months, should probably bow out.

So it's a bit of a multi-fold problem.

(1) You're right about the entitlement, but part of it is because many fans are coming from a background of engagement set by kpop where there is so much contentification of the idols' lives and their work schedule is really unsustainable and harmful.

Fans will hear that and go "boohoo the company is abusing them!" and then turn around and demand an insane level of content/access and not put two and two together... In fact, some fans named kpop agencies as better talent management companies when they headed to KPWT Seoul like many of those agencies aren't notorious for working their idols/trainees to the bone. It's inheriting a set of expectations from a toxic industry where the core content also is smaller/more bite size (songs vs. whole series).

(2) BOC is an extremely young company and are facing growing pains. Some things they've done from the KPWT promotion and talent management side are genuine missteps that need to be corrected. For example, they announced a KPWT date in Vietnam and then later had to cancel the date after it was apparent the scheduling was too tight. In the cancelation of the date, they also misspelt the name of the city (HCMC), which was named after a revered leader in Vietnam. Fans had already started booking travel/hotels around that date so it was already a cause of inconvenience and fans felt even more upset because BOC refused to apologize for the misspelling. Some of it now is genuinely fans being overreactive, but a not-small part is friction that was built up from missteps BOC made earlier, and thus is now leading to fans feeling sensitive whenever they feel that they are being slighted.

A lot of fans already decided they dislike BOC so there's no incremental improvement BOC can make at this point to win them back. But there genuinely was a lack of comms/PR leadership and planning by the company in the middle of this year.

Somewhere in the middle of these two - fans feeling like BOC does not take care of their artists and the lack of socmed/PR/comms leadership is the Daemi problem. feel free to search "kinnporsche daemi" on YouTube to learn about that. I know at least one person made an explainer video and I'm not also interested in talking about it.

(3) BOC is also competing within the Thai BL industry with GMMTV, which produces the majority of BLs that air in Thailand. Again, this is a problem of expectation setting. GMMTV is a well-oiled machine that consistently turns out bad to mediocre to acceptable products like clockwork. BOC served a single Michellin-star quality feast, but fans are looking at GMMTV and going "They're going to McD's five times a week" as though those two experiences are comparable.

(And a horrible machine in some ways -- it was recently exposed that an assistant director was using his powers to predate and he was arrested so like, fans really need to ... not hold GMMTV as the standard).

I'm not saying fans' expectations are valid. They are not. But a lot off fans were on BOC's side during the airing KPTS and had been rooting for them, and there is an explanation for why some fans now have unfavorable feelings towards them. The fact that they dug their heels in and refused to apologize / openly acknowledge improvements are needed when they made obvious missteps made a lot of people who generally feel neutral about them like myself not that inclined to stand up for them in other instances. Combined with toxic industry standards coming from other fandom (kpop) and industry (Thai BL) angles, it's not really surprising to me that this is where we got to.

[telomeke]

Some background about the song in case anyone's interested.

This is a cover of the original released last year by the boyband New Country. The song title is Stand By หล่อ, and if you can sense an old-time twang, that's because the composition has roots in Thai country music (luk thung or ลูกทุ่ง) although the original version by New Country is a contemporary song, not a traditional one. (Satang is absolutely splendid in evoking the older style of luk thung with his crying vocals and sliding into his notes, rather than hitting them on-pitch).

Actually the MSP concert producers went for an older, groovier feel – the original by New Country has quite a modern arrangement instead:

Old-time luk thung is unashamedly and unironically cheesy, which also explains the boys' costuming at the MSP concert.

And the song's ties to luk thung are deep – Stand By หล่อ was written by none other than Got Jakrapun, the Prince of Thai luk thung himself. He was also behind the formation of New Country, envisaged as a modern luk thung boyband (see this article linked here).

If Got Jakrapun's name and the twang of the song are sounding familiar even though you don't know luk thung – you may be remembering the time they were vividly evoked at the KinnPorsche World Tour.

Build Jakapan (Pete in KinnPorsche) was actually named after Got Jakrapun because his mom was a fan back in the day (Jakapan = Jakrapun because, you know, Thai language). And Build (before he resigned from Be On Cloud) paid homage to his mom and to his namesake at the KPWT concert by singing one of Got Jakrapun's most famous songs – 1997's I Love You More Than Anyone (รักคุณยิ่งกว่าใคร). If you listen to that song, the similarities with Stand By Lor are unmistakable – they have the same jaunty beat, and the melodies are in minor mode while the mood and lyrics are cheerfully (and cheesily) upbeat. 👍

I wasn't expecting to like Stand By หล่อ, but the song is so bouncy and fun, and the boys did such a good job (can't believe they're singing live, while dancing) that I'm absolutely hooked – listening to it on endless repeat now! 💖

PS I have to agree Aun is dazzling. They need to give him more stuff to do! 🤩

no because when i was watching the clips of my school president prom night on stage day 1 without subs, the group performance that was most fun to watch was Stand By Lor right? such great dance moves, very groovy, very traditional vibes in places (aka satang & ford's vocals).

BUT THEN I SAW THE SUBTITLED VERSION OF THAT PERFORMANCE I AM LOOSING MY MIND OMG do yourself a favor and watch this

[kinnbig]

Nodt Nutthasid | Behind the Show: Taipei

[nattaphum]

Mileapo in the last two shows of KP World Tour ❤️

[mr-and-mr-mitchell]

The Last KinnPorsche performances are fucking killing me off my guys, they're all going for it so hard and doing so well, it's so amazing.

Also tho, Bible Wichapas I beg you spare our poor hearts.

[matan4il]

We got a confirmation for yesterday's initial speculation that Mile's in his hometown of Kalasin, while Apo's in Bangkok.

Interesting things that may or may not reflect a long distance r/s... Apo posted a throwback pic of himself in Paris this Sep, but he added the caption, "Miss you so much" with a kissing emoji...

Mile posted his own throwback pic to the time he went with his family with Laos on Jun 11:

Apo reacted to it right away and said he wants to go together:

Between the two of them, they posted lots of food pics, but I wanna focus on Apo's sudden need to show us how much he loves this green dessert:

Like... REALLY loves it:

And last night, while apart, Mile posted a romantic playlist, with a romantic image...

And then he also re-shared an old vid in which he's playing the song Fly Me to the Moon, which he and Apo performed together at KPWT (and which also has a special place in queer history):

Lastly, Mileapo Safe Place published a new translation of the press questions they answered at the HOWE awards the other day:

Oh, and Mile's mom replied to Apo's comment (my definition of "lastly" is "wait for me to add one more thing"): ^u^

(for more of my daily Mileapo/Kinnporsche, click here)

[nattaphum]

Mileapo date in Seoul (10/17/22)

Soooo... i decided to make one of my posts where i put all the things Mile and Apo do together because this was a really lovely night, definitely one to remember :)

This time i got a little help from @iyyene on twitter who made this wonderful map:

Let's go!

it all started with this video of Mile and Apo walking around Seoul 😍

STOP 1:

I looked for BBCH on Google and it's an Opera House!

STOP 2:

Apo posted an instagram story of a shoe store and then Mile started following the store on IG from his personal account:

Today Mile posted a story asking if we like his shoes:

And yes the shoes are of the brand of yesterday's store :)

More under the cut:

STOP 3:

Apo took photos of Mile (as usual) at Baastudios

After that, they crossed the river so i'm adding in between a couple of undefined places they posted on their stories (the first yesterday, the others today!) :

STOP 4:

Apo says: i walked down just now, so.. apparently i forgot to think about having to go back up

(you can hear Mile's someone's laugh in the background) 😜

They were at the Hyundai Card music Library in Seoul:

And then moved to Space Shinseon:

STOP 5:

A fan met them and gave us this beautiful cozy pic 😍

Now there's a bit of confusion because Mile's big sister posted an IG story where Mile is sitting at a table with his family and Apo posted a story with matching colors:

The place where Mile was with his family is not very distant from where the fan met them:

676 meters away ( 10 mins by foot) so Mile and Apo probably went together :)

A fan found a sort of proof:

HINGES LMAO

LAST STOP:

Mile and Apo at dinner together ❤️❤️❤️ (video here)

The end :)

[nattaphum]

The boys are at Universal in Singapore 🥰

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Mile: This morning's fish and seafood market with my older sister in a good mood 😋😊

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