#It's okay tho. She'll do them properly later

[demaparbat-hp]

There is no such thing as personal space between them.

[sirdust]

I saw someone going 'well why can't Stolitz be healthier like Charlie and Vaggie' but like. That's actually an interesting parallel to consider, I think. They're both royalty in Hell, they both have power political and probably literal(even if we've only seen glimpses of that latter), and unlike their family members(Stella, and presumably Lucifer and Lilith) they both have an interest in the lower castes of Hell, and they both probably have a lot to learn about how to treat those castes.

For Stolas, as we know, his interest is more in a singular member of that caste, he's very used to his status perhaps to the point he's not as aware of it as he should be, but he damn well knows how to use it and his power when properly motivated. He's unintentionally condescending to Blitzo and a bit bratty to Moxie and Millie when they save him instead of Blitzo. His efforts to cheer up his daughter end up accidentally making her mood worse, so a bit like I discuss with Charlie he IS well-intentioned and naive, but doesn't listen to Octavia until she runs off. When she does tho, he tries to explain thing, and does promise he'll never run away and leave her behind. He's well-intentioned I think, but unaware of the consequences of his actions and mannerisms, which he WILL need to unlearn.

Meanwhile comparing that to Charlie, she recognizes the people of Hell suffering and wants there to be a better way, and does have a healthy relationship with Vaggie... but from the Pilot she's also very idealistic, very naive and sheltered, and can't throw her weight around as Princess of Hell effectively, lacking resources and staff for her project, being made a fool of on television, and Alastair feeling pretty comfortable telling Hell's princess 'yeah I'm here because I wanna see you fail horribly'. Not to mention I'm not sure has a lot of knowledge about effective ways to help people, expecting all her 'patients' to go totally clean from drugs and alcohol and fights without weaning them off. In her song she ripped syringes out of a demon's hand and destroyed them, and later on she or Vaggie was irritated at a drink bar in their hotel. It may not be the same for demons and sinners, but something like that would probably send a human into withdrawal. Not to mention she's gambling all this on the hope that Heaven WILL let in a redeemed soul, if Heaven goes 'yeah, no, sorry, but no' then that shuts down her idea (unless she decides 'fuck it, restructure BOTH Heaven and Hell' which honestly I really wanna see)

So like. I dunno, Stolitz isn't healthy NOW, but Stolas is probably going to grow, and Charlie's hotel project strikes me as dangerously naive NOW, but that was just the pilot so she'll ALSO probably grow. And I'm disappointed people can't seem to realize that like... okay different show but my favorite character ever took two seasons and hitting rock bottom in a show I like to even start trying to do better, and even then he still fucked up and made some of the same mistakes until he realized and tried to do better yet, and Charlie may be a good person but can still have dangerous attitudes even as a good person, there's still a HELL of a lot of time for both to grow. (pun not intended :P) Endgame ship means end of THE SERIES, not the season.

(it was vaggie who didn’t want the bar!)

yeah i think this is an astute parallel to make. if charlie and stolas both have arcs that focus on learning to empathize with the lower class, it makes sense there would be similarities.

also, regarding the heaven thing, people act like that’s spoilers, but we were already operating under the assumption heaven wouldn’t want redeemed sinners anyways. alastor’s answer to charlie’s project is “they had their shot on earth and this is the eternal consequence”; it’s about seeing if the system can be changed, less working directly within it.

but yeah getting back to the main point, the parallels between the two are interesting, and while i tend to balk at comparing the two shows too heavily i do think there are interesting connections (they’re made by the same creator anyways). regarding charlie and vaggie’s relationship too, it’s funny because people in the crit side of the fandom tend to waffle back and forth on whether or not that relationship is “good”. canon has shown us it’s a healthy long-term partnership, but at the same time no relationship is perfect and there are seeds of conflict being planted within that dynamic already, so people who think conflict is not the core part of any story are looking at that and going “SEE. SEE. UNHEALTHY.” it’s wild.

[pupvivi]

Even tho Momo purposely doesn't try to be in the same space as Jeongyeon for personal reasons, they do get along enough to keep Mina happy. When Mina is stressed about something it's Momo who's quick to direct Jeongyeon to take care of their workaholic leader, as the only person Mina don't say no to is her soulmate.

Its their common interest in keeping Mina sane that keeps them amicable.

Their steps are clear with a goal in mind, Momo opens the door alerting Mina of her presence. Before she can ask why she's here, it's Jeongyeon who steps inside, her arms already crossed as Momo closes the door behind her. She doesn't need to stay and witness Mina get scolded. She'll get her earful later for 'betraying' Mina later. With an eye roll, she went to grab some rest herself before Sana inevitability comes looking for her.

"Jeong-" Mina's voice cracks getting lack of use, but her eyes roam along Jeongyeon's body. It would seem that she's been home all day, as she's not even out of her sleeping clothes. Which isn't to say much, as she likes long shirts and shorts. Her legs were fully on display.

"My eyes are up here." Jeongyeon is quick to remind Mina. "Care to explain why Momo had to be the one to come and get me to drag you to bed? I thought we agreed to rest after a mission?" The tone on Jeongyeon's choice was scary (and sexy) as she's rarely one to really be upset.

But when it came to Mina's health, she didn't play around. "I was just typing up a report, and-" Mina sighed, before sitting back in her chair. "Sorry."

Jeongyeon's tough act dropped upon seeing Mina give up so easily. "I don't want you to apologise, I want you to do better. I hate seeing you with bags under your eyes, you're too pretty for that." Jeongyeon was quick to move closer, planting herself on the deck carefully, moving the laptop and papers out of the way. Her hands cupping Mina's face carefully.

Mina sighed again, any leftover energy seeping from her body, leaving her absolutely exhausted. Leave it to Jeongyeon to be her voice of reason. "I missed you." She confesses breaking the gentle silence between the two of them. "Trying to sleep knowing you're not beside me is like hell, need to have you in my arms to sleep well."

"I'm right here. Let's go to bed, okay? You can hold me all you want."

The offer was really too good to refuse, and with some help, the two were making their way towards their shared room. Only occasionally nodding at a few estate guards along the way. Mina felt silly leaning on Jeongyeon to get to bed, but was much too tired to put on her usual in charge mask.

She wanted to sleep.

Jeongyeon sat her carefully on their bed, and with familiar motions peeled her out of her clothes, occasionally having to fight back a giggle when Mina leaned in for a kiss, only to miss half the time, her lips landing on her neck, shoulder, and cheek. "You're so tired you can't even time stealing kisses properly." Jeongyeon lightly scolded, saving the undoing of her girlfriends hair for last, knowing it was her weakness. The moment she felt fingers in her hair, she could literally countdown until Mina was asleep.

It was cute.

"Jeongyeon~" Mina lightly whined when she felt the bed dip her arms still empty, needing to feel her soulmate against her.

"I'm here." She replied, cuddling up against Mina. "Always gonna be here."

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Journey of a shipper: Kontae and how I fell for this ship?

OKAY! SO I'M FINALLY DOING THIS. Writing a long ass meta about this ship because hell, I love them and this ship is beautiful and I just need more content for this ship, so I'm making some myself! Before I start, it's just my opinion and I don't mean to offend anybody and second, I'm not a great analyst. I'm just going to ramble about stuff here and it's pretty long. So, enjoy!

I remember making this post about gintama ships back when I first started watching Gintama and I remember mentioning Kontae there. The sweet and kind guy falls for the hard-core and strong willed woman. A ship dynamic I really love. And their interactions, so damn funny I can't even say! And the 10 years gap didn't look like a big issue to me; they are both adults so I was okay with it. This ship looked funny to me, Kondou blushing, asking her to marry him, butt hair and all xD but also made me feel like "it may not get too far". But Idk why, I decided to stick with it. Because i was just so much in love with Kondou and Otae's characters. But in between all that, I really didn't see any kind of romance happening between these two and I was like maybe in an AU, they'd make a really good couple. It's not happening in Gintama 'cause I really don't see any kind of romance happening in this universe (and yet, I continued shipping xD)

But, I was wrong.

When the Yagyuu arc came and I watched episode 81. And my faith in this ship was restored. I know there were some ship-tease moments for gintae in the benizakura arc and the yagyuu arc but then this scene came:

I know, I know, it wasn't literal but what if it was? Well, that's not the question here. I was pretty surprised to hear this myself. Gintoki saying "She'll make it up to him" and Hijikata saying "She loves him. She's just playing hard to get" and all then Otae comes and saves Kondou from his Gorilla marriage. I got the verdict here tho. Maybe it was just for comedic purpose, maybe not. But still, it was enough for me to continue shipping them coz they looked hella cute and I just thought I'd just stick to it. Maybe, I'm gonna find something big soon. I found other ships like Hijimitsu and Gintsu! But that's a topic for another day.

AND, YES. I DID!

The pool arc came, which is like ep 217 and yes, nothing huge happened but remember how Gintoki was a making fun of Otae's breasts and how he wasn't interested in looking at her flat chest but Kondou, who was, like always, stalking her, then says he's ready to explore every part of her to find the nipple xD and Otae just punches him. Yeah that was funny. And then Tae later again comments that she can see right through Gintoki's actions and Gintoki retorts again by saying that he's not interested in her camel toe. Then this scene happens:

Kondou says he has no interest in camel toe and Tae again punches him while yelling "YOU DON'T?!"

Weird, right?

I know, it was weird for me too! But what can I say, these short details were what made me feel like maybe, JUST MAYBE, Tae has a thing for Kondou. Just look how offended she is. I know Kondou didn't mean to disrespect her neither was he rejecting her but I think Tae feels like he is. And so she goes like "what do u mean u don't?! Don't you love me!?" Even if it was just a sexual reference, it made me think that maybe, Hijikata was right. She does try to play hard and that there is something.

Then came the love choriss arc and I got a major hint.

How Sayaka-chan was Kondou's virtual girlfriend and how he introduced her to everyone in the Shimura residence. Yup then this happens.

This was stupid and weird and funny and my Kontae heart screamed "YER JEALOUS TAE!"

Just look at her going all dramatic while getting worried about Shinpachi. Well, of course she'll be worried about Shinpachi's well being and how her brother is just drowing into his own virtual world but Why. Throw. Kondou's. Game? If she really doesn't feel anything for him then there's no reason for her to throw Kondou's game. Why not let him stay in his own virtual world with his own virtual girlfriend? What were you planning, Sorachi-sama?

It was the very first time when it looked very evident to me that Tae has something for Kondou deep inside. That whole dramatic scream "THIS CAN'T BE!" just after Kondou introduced Sayaka-chan. I listened to that dialogue very closely and it first started with Kondo introducing her then Gintoki saying something like you're in this shit too? And soon was followed by Tae's dramatic "this can't be! Is Shin-chan going to be like this too!?" while throwing Kondou's game out and Kondou screaming "Sayaka-chan!!"

Tae's jealousy is still a mystery here but I still feel like, somewhere she was.

Moving on!

They went out on a date, which was a disaster and then alongside Kyubei in the Beam Saber arc, how Kondou fought for Otae I started to feel a lot more from Kondou's side. Yes. The stalking is a running gag but Kondou's feelings were given more comedic effect rather than highlighting it in a very serious tone. But that's how Sensei does his work. Gintama is supposed to be funny and this ship is supposed to be funny and I really wasn't expecting any intense and serious Kontae moment in the series.

Well, Sorachi-sama proved me wrong. AND I THANK HIM SO, SO VERY MUCH!

The Genderbender arc came, Kyubei is now this handsome hunk and Tae is blushing furiously and Kondou is this blond bombshell which is his too good! It's been shown over and over again that even if Kondou is a stalker, he just wants to see Otae happy. That's what he always wanted even if he isn't the reason for her happiness. When Jyubei and Tae starts meeting frequently, Kondou comes and encourages Jyubei to stop worrying about other and enjoy himself with Tae. He even says that he's happy with just being her friend and I think this proves how much he cares for her. He gives them those movie tickets telling he actually wanted to ask her out but now that he's like this, can't be with her like the way he always wanted to and now Jyubei is the only one who can take care of her. He was genuinely hurting but what matters most to him is Otae and so he leaves them while saying "if you make her cry, I'll arrest you". Even Kyubei later mentions it that it was him who was hurting and crying and he just happily sacrificed Otae so that she can be happy.

Then came the roach motel arc and OTAE WEARS THE KIMONO THAT KONDOU GAVE! Yes, not in the episode but in opening 15 she does and even in the manga cover! Ah..the feels. Well, coming back to the point, this episode was basically everybody bullying Kondou but the good part here was the ending of this episode. Kondou knowing that he was getting bullied and that Tae was a part of all this but he still says "that's how Otae-san is. This is what makes her, her." That was beautiful; he accepts her for who she is. He knows that she's brash and manipulative and even abusive but she's also kind and strong and beautiful; even after all her flaws he still continues to accept and love her. That's true love. And then comes Otae's part. She slowly starts to learn more and more about him, I think she knew he wasn't stalking her. And then she finally admits that she actually had fun with Kondou and that she got to see a new side of him while hugging that roach mask. She was happy to discover a new side of him, no stalking attached. I was so amazed to see this happening coz like I said, I wasn't expecting all these serious Kontae moments but these were actually happening. It was a breath of fresh air and I was really happy to see a developed relationship between these two characters which just made me ship them even more.

Then comes the love incense arc which was just....bizarre. What was Sensei thinking while writing this arc? Why would you do that to my poor kokoro!? But whatever, nothing is properly explained here, everybody is falling in love with everybody, Kondou turns gay, Gintoki just loses his senses and is sleeping with practically everybody, Tsukuyo's feelings for Gintoki starts to go havoc. But then, Tae and Kyubei comes in the picture. And they're in love with Gintoki too. But then, things change. Take turns out to be in love with Kondou! Hell, she was actually JEALOUS! Yes, it was the love incense and yes, this arc is just too crazy to explain anything properly but hear me out. What if, the love incense actually triggered some of Tae's hidden feelings for Kondou? Just like Tsukuyo's. Coz she actually saw Gintoki's dick first when she inhaled that smoke. Not him. But she ended up discovering her own feelings towards him. So what if this was the same case with Tae? We all saw that she was under the effect of that drug and was in love with Gintoki so Sensei, why this change of plans?

No answers, right? I don't have them either. It's just the little theory I came up with. What was Tae's real feelings? But soon the Shogun Assassination and the Farwell Shinsengumi arcs are followed after this.

And GOOD LORD! Sensei actually proved me wrong! By giving one of the most beautifully written scenes between these two characters.

It isn't always when Sorachi-sama actually decides to go for the romantic plot but in Kontae's case, I felt like he actually hinted a LOT. The very first ship in Gintama where I felt like no, this isn't just one-sided but actually, feelings were shown from both the sides, especially Tae. Like everyone, she misses him. But Tae remembering him like this and crying when she's about to get her neck slashed:

"A real man, a real samurai would never do something like this. That man, would never do something like this."

She knows him, she knows what kind of a man Kondou really is. And even at a time like this, Kondou is the man who comes in her mind. A true man, true police, a true samurai who not for once tried to force himself upon her. Not for once showed any kind of disgrace towards any other people or her. All this time, she comes to learn more and more about him and you know, it was worth the time.

Even Shinpachi sees it.

"I'll bring that man, and everyone, back to you for sure. So wait for us with the same old smile on your face, Sis."

Why exclude him from everybody? There has a meaning behind this and a deep one and tbh, I see a romantic meaning behind this. Shinpachi addressing Kondou like this, it was new. It's not always when Sensei uses such points to evoke a romantic gesture but when he does, it sure leaves an impact.

And this is not the last time he used such implications for KonTae. Fast forward to ep 316, Tae is at Kozenigata's place and she's now leaving. Haji and Konzenigata both tries to stop her because it was dangerous outside and the police organisation isn't working properly and she replies,

"That's exactly why police need to go back to their jobs, and cabaret girls have to go back to their job."

It's like foreshadowing their relationship- the police and the cabaret girl. And then Kozenigata just simply puts a cherry on top.

"They must have come back. Her police."

And Kondou pops out of that dustbin!

FREAKIN' POETIC CINEMA!

And then come the dialogues.

"Don't you think it's high time you stop doing this....You'll catch a cold."

"Why did you have to say that out of all days? I wish you had acted like always, called me a perverted stalker and hit me like you always do. You're....making it hard to say goodbye."

The voice acting, the dialogues, the animation, honestly everything screams romantic here. And yeah, the close-up happy-sad faces, if you've seen/read romantic anime/manga, you should know it's a shoujo trope used to display romantic feelings between two characters. And if I'm just making speculations, they're sharing the same umbrella...

Two people, especially a man and a woman, sharing an umbrella in rain is considered as a symbol of romance in Japan.

This kinda proves that romance is present in this scene.

And then finally this.

ANOTHER SHOUJO TROPE. THE CLOSE-UP EYES!

These eyes literally says it all. It's like Tae saying I'll wait for you and when you come back, I'll happily welcome you and then we can go back to those old days. Just like how Shinpachi said.

And I think, this is the very first and the only time, Sensei used this gesture. And this is just too much for me to not ignore it!

The way Kondou looks at Tae while talking to her, it almost feels like he's telling her to not look so sad. Like I've mentioned before, Kondou wants to see her smile. And i think, in this scene it's crushing for him to see her with such a sad smile on her face. That is the last thing he wants to see. That's why he said he wanted to see her react the way she always did. And Tae not acting like that and instead showing such emotions towards him, it's too overwhelming. Just think how Kondou would be feeling there. Tae seeing him off, her eyes glistening while she sees him walk away but also waits for his arrival in the near future, its simply poetic.

The reunion between these two is as funny as ever, Kontae was back in its own color. When Okita said Kondou was always okay with their usual type of setting, he meant to say that Kondou was happy in those old days. That's what he said in the FS arc, he wanted to see her in her usual self, no sad face, no crying, just a happy Otae who loves to beat the crap outta him but also respects him. Things really were pretty intense in the SA and FS arcs but I don't think Sensei wanted to continue this for long. It was like Sensei saying, we're back to the old days, happy days. The Silver Soul arc and the ongoing arc isn't as intense as these two arcs and that's what Sensei wants to say "we're back to those good ol' day". But that doesn't mean he threw away all those meaningful moments between these two; it was so heavily implied. Just because of a troll scene, one cannot disregard the whole development and say "it was never there" because of course there was something which was very much visible to the viewers/readers, even if it isn't present now doesn't mean it was all a joke or just some i-just-wrote-it-but-now-it-doesnt-mean-anything bullshit. Yeah, the ship isn't canon but that also doesn't mean it sank. I mean, Kondou is not gonna marry that gorilla anymore so....

Imo, KonTae is the only ship in Gintama where romantic feelings are implied from both the sides. It really didnt look unrequited. It's not only Kondou or Tae, it's both of them and both of them have actually shown interest in each other in a way which I won't say is completely ambiguous. The FS arc was the part where it is shown how far their relationship has come and how they have come to learn and respect each other, maybe even love each other. I'm not forcing these ideas on anybody, these are facts and I'm sure even non-shippers must have noticed these moments as well. Honestly, the romantic implications were heavy here, the scenes, the dialogues, the "Take care" which is just too beautiful to not to be ignored. Even if I don't see canon pairings happening here, I still somehow hope for this ship.

My love for Gintsu is eternal but Kontae, this is the only ship where I feel like has come a lot far. And even other characters have mentioned their relationship and in a serious note. Check all those subtle hints, pick up the whole FS arc, it's there. A relationship that started with a gag but now is fully developed where I can see loads of potential. It's a ship that's been here from the very beginning of the series and it didn't look rushed at all. Another universe of how I met your mother lol.

People can ship whatever they like and I'm really not trying to push my thoughts onto anybody here.

But KonTae, this ship is no gag or joke and it deserves more love.

It's stupid, it's hilarious, it's beautiful and it's properly developed and that's why I fell for this ship so hard.