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April 12th, 2018 CTP Archive

The archive for the Comic Tea Party chat that occurred on April 12th, 2018, from 5PM - 7PM PDT. The chat focused on The Robonoid Fan by Mharz.

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✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

COMIC TEA PARTY START!

Good day everyone~! This week’s Comic Tea Party is now officially beginning~! Today we are discussing The Robonoid Fan by Mharz~! (http://robonoid.mharz.com/) For those new or in need of a reminder, discussions about the comic are freeform, so please feel free to bring up whatever you wish. However, every 30 minutes I will be dropping in a discussion question to help those who would like a prompt. These questions are totally OPTIONAL to answer, and you can pay them no mind if you wish. If you miss out on any though, they’ll be pinned for the duration of the chat once they’re posted~! Remember, constructive criticism is allowed, but the primary focus here is to have fun and appreciate the amazing comics that the community makes~! As a bonus, each chat a top comment will be picked and featured in the archives and on an ad for CTP! All that being said, let’s get started and have a great discussion!

QUESTION 1. What is your favorite scene in the comic so far and why?

snuffysam

The end is probably my favorite part. It's a sad ending, but it really shows how Meirin was able to change, and Shin wasn't.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

i....i didnt even get to pin it before you replied

✨Respheal✨

snuffy was READY

🌟Draco Plato🌟

I liked seeing Meirin at work in the beginning, it reminded me of how fun interacting with customers was

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

i liked the illustration for the end. there was something really melancholy about the composition

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

YO IS IT TIME FOR A MHARZ COMIC TO BE IN A CTP?

StickFreeks

I liked the ending too! It was a neat twist, I really wasn't expecting it.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Yeah the ending was pretty good

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Oooh, boy. I HAVE FEELINGS ABOUT MY FAVORITE SCENE IN THIS I agree, it's the end scene. AAAAAAAAAAA Shin. Shin. Booooooooooooooooi. I was SO glad Meirin didn't respond in the affirmative for Shin. He was kind of a butt. I mean, he had potential for growth, but clearly didn't. AND I'm really honestly curious who the person he <Spoilered> was to him, and what relation they had. I wanna know!! But Shin, that doesn't... excuse anything.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

@draco meirin at work reminded me more of the parts of work where professionally jealousy is concerned even though your rivals are also your friends cause work politeness or something

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Also I read the epilogue in the book and let me tell you I felt so much better after reading it but also Shin never changes let me tell you

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Can i just say Shin has really nice hair

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

(OK, yes he does, but only when forced by circumstance)

StickFreeks

I had the idea that he got fired / replaced by somebody and that's what the drama was that led to his actions.

🌟Draco Plato🌟

@Rebel yeah there was that aspect of it too~

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

THAT SAID -- I also kind of wanted to see the two of them get together up until that last scene.

🌟Draco Plato🌟

i thought shin needed therapy XD

son plz calm down

✨Respheal✨

@StickFreeks I agree: http://robonoid.mharz.com/comic/56

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Ahaha. Oh, I Thought that was the case, but was the replacement the same person that caused him to get arrested?

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Damn adults.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

i think it is implied its the same person maybe

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

And poor Shin, all the hell he goes through

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

i mean its the logical conclusion to make

StickFreeks

I think he deserved his end, I didn't really feel bad for him.

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

my favorite was merin watching robonoid, i'm sucker for that henshin stuff(edited)

🌟Draco Plato🌟

i liked that too delta

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

i have to agree that was my fave scene. i liked watching meirin get legit excited about it and i liked she changed her opinion on the show just being for kids

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Yeah, it's pretty cute

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Meirin is adorable, though

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

@Kabo (I know right?)

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

henshin shows can get fuckin dark, like garo and the OG kamren rider, they aint just for kids

🌟Draco Plato🌟

yus she is adorable~

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

^^^^^

Delta's right

StickFreeks

I couldn't tell if Shin was emulating Robonoid's hair or if they just had the same hair, but I was convinced that he was the "real" Robonoid for a good while.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

hahaha i thought that too. that shin was like the va or something and thats what he did for work XD

🌟Draco Plato🌟

same

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

he was probably emulating it, i know if i could wear a kamen rider helmet everyday i would

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

kek

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

gotta represent your favorite stuff

🌟Draco Plato🌟

yus

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

^^^

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

I dunno, Shin was pretty rich. I think he WAS the actor. :3

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

maybe he was, we could ask mharz later

StickFreeks

I thought he was blowing all his money after getting fired. XD

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

i partly assumed his emulation was a representation of his fragile mental state. cause i feel shin desperately wanted to be the hero and not the bad guy. so gotta emulate a hero to reflect that

🌟Draco Plato🌟

same rebel

✨Respheal✨

Yeah

🌟Draco Plato🌟

he may have been rich in that he knew he was probably going to go to jail soon too

so just spent it up

✨Respheal✨

I was just thinking that he was trying to "take justice into his own hands, like a hero" and didn't have the adult recognition of where to draw the line(edited)

StickFreeks

I'm still unsure why he had the intent to kill somebody- like I know his "motive", but it seems unreasonable that he'd do something like that after trying to protect the kid.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

That seems fair

🌟Draco Plato🌟

super heroes don't generally kill people either

so it is a bit out of character perhaps

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

well monster die in the end of henshin shows, maybe he saw them as the monster

🌟Draco Plato🌟

altho he also was obsessive and crazy

oh that could be delta

StickFreeks

It makes for a good story, I just wish that there was some more build up or representation of him getting to that line

outside of "adults are terrible"

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

like every episode the monster explodes once they've been beaten

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Pretty much

🌟Draco Plato🌟

yeah i agree stick(edited)

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

yeah it did come outta now where for me

🌟Draco Plato🌟

i think as a reader I felt a biiit too detached from Shin to grasp his whole character picture

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

If memory serves, Mharz did note that this story was started in 2011 -- so it's an older work!

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

since were seeing things though merin, we didn't really get everything about shin

StickFreeks

I think I was most confused by why he asked Meirin to "wait for him", since it seemed like they had just been friends for at most a couple of weeks

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

i didnt find him killing unreasonable. partly 1 because we have the phrase crime of passion for a reason. even the most reasonable ppl can do dumb crap if theyre angry enough. and i think part of shin's character is that hes a hypocrite. so of course as a hypocrite hes going to do contraditory things.

yeah i have to say i was confused on the time scale here

StickFreeks

That's very true, he did have that "unexpected crazy", I just wish it was shown more. XD

Or in more drastic ways, anyway

✨Respheal✨

Hmm, I wonder why he was going by an alias the whole time

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

especially for when shin committed the crime. thats the only wrench i see in the victim being the guy who replaced shin. cause from shin's words it sounded like itd happen after he met meirin. but then why was shin there in the first place when he could probably afford a much better place to live?

✨Respheal✨

Might he have done things before?

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Hnngh, IDK if the guy that Shin got arrested about was his replacement

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

merch can cost a lot rebel

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

it can but at that point, priorities man XD priorities

🌟Draco Plato🌟

also girl not going to wait for your ass shin, she knew you a month tops, you weren't even dating, and you going to jail for life

StickFreeks

Yeah seriously XD

🌟Draco Plato🌟

also still wondering if he drugged her

when he brought her back from the restaurant

ruffies are a thing

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Can... I talk about the epilogue?

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

god that be fucked if so

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

or is that TOO spoilery?

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

i don't see why not kabo

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

AHAHAHHAA I wish Mharz was here XD

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

i do too

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

but lemme tell you -- Meirin continues to keep her common sense.

🌟Draco Plato🌟

wait where's the epilogue

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

I think, short of spoiling it. That's the best I can say.

It's in print only atm

🌟Draco Plato🌟

awwwww

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

OH WAIT

https://gumroad.com/l/robonoid-epilogue

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

OMGG

StickFreeks

Oh yay! Thanks!

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

OH SHIT

🌟Draco Plato🌟

omg did he date rape her

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

It's 10 years later. I would say it's worth it. It's $2, but y'all should throw some money at Mharz

and JUST READ IT JUST... READ IT NOW

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

AAAHHHH

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

It's very cute and lemme tell you, again, Meirin continues to keep her common sense and I love her so much.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

I need to get this

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

im glad meirin doesnt go on some i hate adults spree and realizes responsibilites are indeed a thing

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

I think having to actually worry about paying rent is kind of important XD

🌟Draco Plato🌟

yus

StickFreeks

I gotta drop out a bit early but this was fun! :D See ya!

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

see ya

🌟Draco Plato🌟

bye stick~!

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Bye!

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

thanks for coming stick~!

maybe the dating scene sucks where meirin lives. so she waits cause otherwise eww has to date oldman bankerman or something XD

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Ahahahahaha oh dear.

🌟Draco Plato🌟

well did he not go to jail for murder then?

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Oh no he definitely did

🌟Draco Plato🌟

but he gets out 10 years later?

that'd be a super short murder sentence

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

good behavior maybe?

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Well, I guess that'd depend on your lawyer

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Hmmm

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

and also the story's set in the Phillipines, so it might be slightly different depending on circumstance

🌟Draco Plato🌟

maybe, but geezus

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

oh gosh, what if Shin's crime was an accident

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

also I GOT THE EPILOUGE

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

QUESTION 2. At the end of the comic, Shin, whose real identity is revealed to be Manuel Robles, is arrested under the suspicion of murdering an Intelligence Communications employee named Sid Simon. Do you think Shin actually committed the crime? If yes, what do you think his motive was? If no, why do you think Shin is the primary suspect (and will his innocence be proven)? Given Shin’s leanings on hating adults who lie, why do you think Shin himself was so willing to commit such a huge lie? What do you foresee in general for Shin’s future and will he reflect upon his time with Meirin?

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

It's SO HEARTWARMING

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

RIGHT, JUSTIN?! I told you, Meirin keeps her goddamn sense!

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

YESSSS

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

honestly, that murder thing was a huge left turn for me, i had no idea that was going to be a thing and i'm still a little confused on it

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Also -- OMG, I think Shin DID commit the murder, although maybe it might have been manslaughter. He was hiding and scared before he got arrested. Even if he was an asshole with violent tendencies, I have a hard time thinking the act was actually premeditated.

also tbh I was kind of hoping it was the neighbor kid's mom but well. No, that wasn't the case.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

im leaning towards he did the murder. though i am 100% in the it was a crime of passion category. cause shin seems pretty explosive in general. so i could see him seeing some shady stuff going on him being like "that asshole murders oh whoops."

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

"Oops, I punched this guy and he hit his head on the floor the wrong way"

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

that being said, despite thinking that the victim was who replaced him, i actually think the motive was different. that shin confronted him over something else entirely

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

"it was the stairs, i swear officer"

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Well considering how triggered Shin got...

✨Respheal✨

I'm just hung up on the question of why he was using a fake name in the first place

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Only with Meirin, though

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

maybe to be cool

✨Respheal✨

Maybe

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Wait

How old even is Shin?

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

oh wow

🌟Draco Plato🌟

i didn't understand why he didn't resist arrest

and was just sitting there basically waiting

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Guilty conscience!

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

he wanted to be a hero, justice came to his door, what kinda hero would run from justice

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

I think Shin probably was like "yeah well, I'm boned"

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

yea

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

yeah that is one that bugs me. why the fake name? and also why was he so....different when meirin showed up? like for a moment i thought he was undercover

🌟Draco Plato🌟

yeeeah

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Ahahahaha

🌟Draco Plato🌟

how was he different?

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Maybe Shin gave acquaintences a fake name so he wouldn't get bugged

🌟Draco Plato🌟

she said he was different but i kept flipping back and forth like is it the shirt

he looks the same

or did she just mean his personality

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

she meant his personality

cause he wasnt all angry

with his furrowed brows

🌟Draco Plato🌟

but everyone's got different mood days

so it didn't strike me as that weird

(edited)

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

it struck me as weird cause that was the first time seeing it. so if i was meirin i wouldve been like this is weird the first time. if it happened again okay whatever, different mood

🌟Draco Plato🌟

i wonder why going to jail mellowed him out

did he smoke a bowl before she showed up

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

shin mightve just chilled some cause he was going to confess to meirin. ya know, without telling her hes a dirty, dirty murderer

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Or his real name

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

This

Also I finally decided to jump to the middle of the story

🌟Draco Plato🌟

hey Meirin, I know I just met you, but call me maybe

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Definitely seems like Shin is a fishy person in general

with how he acts

🌟Draco Plato🌟

yeah he does

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

in the 50's pages(edited)

🌟Draco Plato🌟

i knew the ending before i started reading so i think it made it easier to see he was shifty

early on

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

lol

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

I dunno that Shin's really shifty? Just... .... In need of an attitude adjustment

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

yeah

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

A few thwaps upside the head might get ya killed tho

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

i didnt find him shifty. what i found shifty was meirin's landlord was nowhere around to complain to. which i know she explained it, but what a terrible landlord.

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

hes an idealist in a world where that thinking doesn't work

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

wait if the landlord is gone how did shin even get a room? this is why i wish i knew when the murder was. cause if shin was hiding there from teh start it makes sense how he showed up so suddenly. he was a squatter

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Pretty much

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

the landlord is probably a company

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

wish i reread it before this

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

XD "Hi here's my check"

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

tfw I'm jsut reading the whole thing now

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

didnt sound like it cause meirin siad the landlord was out of town or something. i remember this distinctly cause right before i read that i was like "meirin just complain to the landlord this is why they exist wtf." and then meirin explained why she wasnt doing that and i felt the fool

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Sorry I'm late. Today's been a day. ^.^ I'll respond to remarks from half an hour ago for a bit.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

hi math~!

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

MATH

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Favourite bit's a tossup. I liked when she brought food and then was going to leave but relented when she realized he was actually really hungry, that was kind of touching. But I also liked when she thought it was a ghost near the start, that was funny.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

i liked how she flipped her gears so quick and was like "jk thats silly its a new tenant"

common sense meirin

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Yeah, the ending was really interesting. Didn't anticipate that. Kind of casts everything in a slightly different light?

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

yes. although if were being critical i do wish the ending had been foreshadowed a bit more. it kind of came out of left field for me

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Hmmm. If Shin WAS a squatter... does that mean he never had a key

also, how long was that body gone for

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

so you didn't see that coming either

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

StickFreeks: Oh, damn, good catch! (With the firing leading to the drama.)

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Okay I pretty much read the whole story now

including the epilouge

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

its wierd to thinks he a squatter cause didn't we see inside his room with all the robonoid stuff

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

I love it and how realistic it approaches things

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Rebel: Yeah, good point about the emulating on purpose with hair. I agrees.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

no one said squatters cant have stuff. shin didnt seem like he had a whole bunch of stuff tho to me

but i might be biased cause i have like 5 times that amount of stuff in my room not even counting all the shit stored in my closet

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Also yeah the police invasion (sorry for spoilers) came out of nowhare

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

maybe i'm just mis-remembering then(edited)

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Respheal: Yeah, the alias thing made me wonder!

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

also I feel ya

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Shin moves from safe house to safe house with his favorite things

he only really had a computer and some posters, assuming the bed was part of the apartment

IS IT THEORY TIME

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

yeah given the style of the bed to me it seemed more like it must of been a prefurnished apartment

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

DID SOMEONE SAY THEROIES

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Yeah, with the dead guy being in Intelligence, I thought maybe Shin was some sort of spy who got too caught up in his cover or something.

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Meirin: An adorable cinnamon roll of a character, perfect, do not question her. We know the story's from her point of view. Probably did not wait for Shin because she has common sense. Shin: A homeless, murderous squatter who might have been robonoid at one point or another -- and then got fired. Killed a guy, but didn't put a gun against his head or pull a trigger, but the guy's dead. Hates giving his real name because people are jerks and Shin sounds much cooler ANYWAY. "SHINJITE KUREYO"(edited)

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

>Shin was Robonoid

at some point

I love that theroy

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Buboy's probably yelling at his mom, "Mama... Life has just begun... But that guy had gone and thrown it all awaaaaaaaaaaaaay"

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

I liked how she said "its a new tenant... but what IF IT'S NOT... no it is". Just something about that.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

kabo that shin description geez XD homeless, murderous squatter

tbf

if he is a squatter

it is a not O_O

hes not a new tenant in that case

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Oh, also, he probably stole someone's credit card.

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Maybe Shin's parents created Robonoid. Modelled him after their son. He could never live up to their expectations.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

shin grew up, learned there werent monsters and giant robots in real life. was eternally devastated

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Okay, I'm caught up to the present now. ^.^

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

if he stole a credit card that would explain the fancy restaurant

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

im glad shin had a job at some point cause tbh at first i thought he might just not do anything all day but watch robonoid

QUESTION 3. As Meirin spends time with Shin throughout the comic, she seems to change bit by bit. Do you think Meirin will remain changed, or will the comic’s ending cause her to revert back to her old ways of thinking? Do you think she will remain a Robonoid fan herself, or will it just bring back bad memories? How do you think watching Shin be arrested will affect Meirin in general? Most importantly, do you think she’ll wait for Shin like Shin asked her to? Why or why not?

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

IF MEIRIN WAITS FOR SHIN, SHE IS A FOOL

MEIRIN IS NOT A FOOL

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Rebel: Oooh, good point, I forgot about the restauruant.

snuffysam

I sure hope she doesn't wait for Shin. Keep watching Robonoid if you want, but move on with your life.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

so by that do you mean meirin just marries shin while hes in jail? XD

✨Respheal✨

For real 8V (I gotta start winding down for bed so I'm ducking out o/)(edited)

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

I tend to agree with Kabocha there. Interesting thought, the idea that Robonoid would bring up bad memories though. Hmmm.... maybe not? If she's able to talk with people like the little kid?

snuffysam

I think she might take up Shin's mantle of helping kids? Like, if she sees a kid in need, she'll help them?

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Meirin marries Robonoid.

✨Respheal✨

pff

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

:'3

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Shin is the priest.

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

FROM JAIL

It's a video wedding.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

I would say maybe somewhare inbetween

to answer the question

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

i'd like to think meirin would keeping being a robonoid fan, yeah sure the guy that introduced it to you may be a murder but a good show is a good show, when she scracted the surface of it why let the dumb thing wiegh down your enjoyment of it

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

meirin kidnaps that abused kid and runs away from him. cant wait for shin because shes on the run

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

I really want to know what happened to the abused kid

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

tbf with shin arrested meirin can take all his stuff. so no reason not to be a fan. someone has to have all that merch

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

exactly

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

it's probably evidence

Shin stole it from Sid Simon.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

the true motive

shin wanted that sweet limited edition poster

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Yes

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Yeah, I wondered about the abused kid too. They both kind of had valid points, need to not ignore it but getting involved can just cause problems for everyone.

Shin took down all his stuff though before he was arrested.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

that scene really made me wonder if the country has a cps. cause the thing you should actually do in that situation is call cps

but different country, different protocols

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

What's CPS? thinks Oh, child protection services, right. Would probably need some kind of evidence.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Yea

I'm curious too

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

i dont think you need evidence persay? well to report abuse you dont and i think they usually send someone out. to take the child is when they need the evidence

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Yea

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

i know in america they avoid that tho because foster care is terrible and often damages the child even more

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

At least Meirin will finally get some sleep? (Though she had trouble that time it was too quiet, so hard to say.)

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

but still idk. i dont think either of their answers were right. cause shin's jump to violence and all that certainly is bad and if hes trying to not go to jail thats not how you do it. although in retrospect maybe thats why shin was ready to go for that. he might assume hes going to jail at some point so what does he have to lose? on the otherhand that, i dont agree with meirin's lets ignore it either, because that is exactly how abuse endures

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Yea.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

meirin can just put on robonoid fan in the bg

problem solved

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

I'd say they should have done something about it

without going to violence

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Agreed, both of them were kind of right. That felt like a bit of a loose thread.

(Or kind of wrong, depending on your POV.)

At least Shin didn't bite her hand when she silenced him.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

they were both right and wrong at the end of the day, imo.

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

:'3 The story has some shades of gray to it.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Yea

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Even Robonoid's not perfect. Dude seems to show up late to fights.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

yeah i think at the end that was kind of the point. that adults and kids arent some black and white thing and that theres a fine line between good and bad. as meirin put it, "you should think like a child but not be a spoiled brat."

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Lol, Math

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

i chalk that up to how henshin shows go, monster has to cause some havoc first mat

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Robonoid's probably responsible for tons of property damage.

Imagine the insurance bills!

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

oh of course he is

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

his oh so much

*this

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

'Tis a good quote, Rebel.

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

theres tons of explosions and builds collapsing everytime a monster shows up

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Lots of dea--- oh no shin really was robonoid

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

I could imagine that if the series was longer, it would start to show some of the faults of the Robonoid character

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Is Robonoid really a robot?

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

maybe, could be an ultraman thing where he just gets really big

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

and maybe Meirin would get some idea of why Shin gets bad influences from an anime aimed at kids.

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

SJB: Ooh, maybe. I wonder if there's more than the two videos.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

True

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

there has to be, it seemed like serialized show

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

It would have bene cool to see more of the Robonoid franchise and it's influence in Shin

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Robonoid III: Now He's Really A Noid.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Don't let him get the pizza

Maybe an extended cut of the comic could show more of Shin's character and his fondness for children(edited)

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

yeah it seemed like a serialized show to me. there were multiple dvds. and since theres merch its more likely a show cause the points of those shows is to make shit tons of money selling merch

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

True

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

plot twist: shin is only nice to kids cause its his devious plan to steal their merch

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

audible gasp

🌟Draco Plato🌟

i did wonder that

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Shin is secretly being financed by Big Robo.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

LMAO

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

thats a whole different mech thing mat

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Yis, and they're trying to devalue the other shows by having fans who steal merch from kids.

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

my god, to think big robo would do such a thing

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

so was the murder all about the fact sid simon actually was an undercover employee for big robo's rival. and shin discovered it but someone had to take the fall for their corporate espionage

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

yes

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

That could be canon!

Interesting that Meilin had heard of Sid somewhere. Was that in the comic?

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

i didnt see it anywhere besides the news. i think she was commenting more shed heard of intelligence communications

on a different note, i hope meirin keeps watching robonoid fan if only because i think meirin could use something light hearted in her day. working as a bank teller sounds horribly dull and irritating cause many angry customers.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

True

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

we could all use some henshin in our lives

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Gotcha. And yeah, hopefully she still sees it as a fun pasttime.

puts a hen on Shin's head

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

mat plz

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

lmao

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

I'd sketch it but I'm not good with fast sketches.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

QUESTION 4. The comic deals with a lot of themes in regards to what it means to be a child, what it means to be an adult, and the good and bad that goes with each. Whose line of thinking in the comic did you find more compelling: Meirin’s or Shin’s? Why did that line of thinking appeal to you? Was there any scene in particular that you think was well done in showcasing the themes? Do you feel Shin’s lies ultimately hurt his arguments, or do you think they still stand up regardless? How does the Robonoid show fit in with the themes? Overall, what is your take away from the comic in regard to what it says about life?

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

I honestly felt like I connected a lot to Shin

since me and him share a few weaknesses

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

The weird thing is, Shin's deception felt rather un-childlike. What was he gaining by lying? Most kids would have a reason for that.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

though I agree a lot with Meirin.

also yes that

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

shin's philosophy intrigued me more as its similar to my own

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

You can see from both sides with the characters. Which is nice.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

me and Delta are one and the same

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Shin loses some credibility for calling Meirin old though.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

lol

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

I mean, I get it was in character, but speaking as an old person, booooo

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

i saw points on both sides but i sided with meirin way more. while she could stand to be more light-hearted, i was more attune to her being a responsible adult and accepting there are just things that you have to do as an adult

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Shin was definitely stubborn. I think the idea of him being "in his own world" was nicely set up from the start with him playing loud audio late at night.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Like I always do

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

But your neighbours. O.o

(They'll think it's a ghost!)

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Thnakfuly i don't do it every night

Sounds like a fun story to do on Halloween

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

actually not going to lie, that opening scene is also what made me side with meirin's thinking more. XD cause she made a reasonable request that his stuff is too loud. and he responded by being a brat. so no matter how much i see validity in his points, ill always see it as coming from a place of a spoiled adult who thinks if he clings to childhood he suddenly wont be an adult XD

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Rebel: There's truth to that, yeah.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Indeed, Rebel

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

An interesting thing was how we did get some scenes at Meirin's work, fleshing out her world a bit, so she wasn't tied to the apartment. So it might have been easier to side with her too, she was more multifaceted.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

^^^

Maybe we needed to see more of Shin's life without Mei's influence/presence(edited)

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

More adult, even.

Shin, apparently living the high life with not worrying much for money, but tending to forget to eat.

(I admit, sometimes I get so caught up in work I forget to eat.)

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

same

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

I wonder what Robonoid would be like from Shin's point of view.

"Huh, she's cu--- WHY IS SHE YELLING AT ME GO AWAY Y'OLD HAG"

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

i kind of wish wed seen a bit more of meirin's life outside. like even more than we see. like id have actually liked to see her tell her coworker about shin vs. it being relayed as an afterfact already happened

a version from shin's perspective might have been interesting

but also sounds angsty filled

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

I was waiting for the ultimate Robonoid attack - "Robonoid Fan"! Big japanese fan that he waves at the enemy.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

did meirin ever say how old she was?

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Yeah, I don't know if we needed to see from Shin's perspective. But maybe Meirin talking to her coworker and getting advice on someone similar?

I think she just said she was roughly the same age?

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Meirin said she was 25, I believe.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

nah i think the story works better completely from meirin's perspecive. id rather see shin's as like some offshoot extra

🌟Draco Plato🌟

yeah cause she said she wasn't that old then said her age

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

okay i thought she said she was 25

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

When Shin first called her an old hag :'3

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Oops, missed that.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

the fact shin was 28 at the end made me rethink that scene with much wtf

like shin

youre older

who are you calling a hag

🌟Draco Plato🌟

yeeeeeeah XD

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

he's a child at ~heart~

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

at the time he couldn't have known that

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Shin, you make worse decisions than a 14-year-old child who's never been told no and has no supervision

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Lmao

I agree with that

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

http://robonoid.mharz.com/comic/9

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Mature behavior

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

welp i was wrong

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

rereading that scene, his intimidation of Meirin shoulda been a dead giveaway...

🌟Draco Plato🌟

mmm yeah

that seems like foreshadowing now

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Yea.

Foreshadowing 70 or so pages ahread

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

I like the art style by the way. Pretty simple, but made dynamic with expressions and backgrounds.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

I agree

It reminds me of one of the video games I used to play since it had kinda a similar artstyle(edited)

I'll just say that(edited)

Simple, yet well crafted with lots of effort

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Which probably makes sense given the idea that Robonoid could be a video game too.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

True

and it is one in-story

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Yes, crafted. And yes.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

if shin was a squatter him not locking the door makes sense

im totally banking on him being a squatter in hiding

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

True

Also every time I hear "squatter"

I imagine Shin listening to Russian gangsta music

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Shin, you gotta build your thighs. Do some squats.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

i always wondered why no other neighbor complained about shin. like certainly someone shouldve been busybody enough to go around knocking on doors being like "do you believe this shit"

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Yes

#Squatnation

also this

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Yeah, if he could hear the kid in the apartment below, couldn't they hear him listening to Robonoid?

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Doesn't he have like, two or four other neghibors?

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

He is on the second floor. Bit of a weird place to squat. Got to carry all your stuffs upstairs.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Yes

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Yeah, the kid mentioned he was hearing the robonoid theme

and he loved it

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Kabocha: Oh, that's right. Good catch.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Kudos to Kabo for catching that

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

maybe meirin just picked a really shitty apartment

since nobody cares

just loud neighbors being loud

normal tuesday

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

It's cheap. ^^

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

#LoudTuesday

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Here's a final puzzler. Do you think 'The Robonoid Fan' could also refer to Meirin, rather than Shin? Because she wasn't a fan, then became one, whereas Shin's whole persona seemed to be based on lies.

Well, that or denials.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

i think it could be argued to refer to both of them.

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

I think it's for both.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

That's what I thought at first

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

since the themes were largely about how neither was completely right or wrong

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

But yeah applying it to both sounds accurate(edited)

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

It's not plural though.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

but both their ideas combined was the true answer

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Or well, it probably centers around Shin, like the Melancholy of Suzumiya Haruhi is... about haruhi, but the main chara is really Kyon

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

lol

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Shin is our troublesome character, who just happens to not be actually.... good at being a hero. SORRY SHIN.

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Hmmm, interesting. (Oh, I hope Shin doesn't have amazing powers.)

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

its a title, doesnt have to be plural to apply to both. cause metaphor.

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

You don't get cookies for that scene in the epilogue, even though we all know Meirin made the right decisioooon

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Very meta. 4.

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

I know, it's probably both, but I'm just being silly at this point in the evening :3

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Oh Kabo~ :3(edited)

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

All good. Me too. Haven't even brought up any ships.

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Meirin x Connie forever.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Well the epilogue conforms a ship and denies another

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Meirin x Big Sis?

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

meirin x robonoid

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

just a small teaser

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Wait, wait: Crack theory before we run out of time

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

DO IT

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Meirin IS Big Sis

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

CRACK IT OPEN

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Robonoid takes place before The Angel with Black Wings

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

OMGGGG

I CAN SEE IT(edited)

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Meirin dies and becomes Big Sis. She wants to be called "Lola" as a rememberance to Shin. AND RAY IS SECRETLY HER LOVE CHILD WITH SHIN -- lookit the spiky hair

(lola being similar to "granny")

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

shin is ray's dad #confirmed

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Maybe they're just twin sisters.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

this is the narrative i will push from now on

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

This explains SO MUCH

Kabocha: going off the rails at the last minute.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

YES

🌟Draco Plato🌟

looooool

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

ANYWAY THIS COMIC IS GREAT READ IT PLS

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

tbf i didnt connect their hair till now XD

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

https://gumroad.com/mharz Buy Mharz's comics!

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

COMIC TEA PARTY END! Unfortunately, the scheduled Comic Tea Party time is now up~! Thank you everyone so much for reading and joining this week’s chat~! We want to give a special thank you to Mharz, as well, for making The Robonoid Fan and volunteering it for our reading queue. If you liked the comic, please be sure to support Mharz’s efforts however you’re able to. All that being said, if you would like to continue discussing this week’s comic, we highly encourage you to do so~!

For next week, Comic Tea Party will focus on Evil Witch Allie by Kristin Tipping. As always, please use the next several days to read as much of the comic as you would like. We hope to see you next Thursday on April 19th from 5PM to 7PM PDT for the chat~! Until then, happy reading~! Comic: http://www.evilwitchallie.com/

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