#ID SAY AS WELL HE THREATENED HIM BC HE LEARNED IT WAS HEIMERDINGER but then again he apparently didn't know he wasn't on the counsil anymore

[delightedchips]

say what u want about heimerdinger & ekko but in my head when ekko first meets him he threatens to throw him off the river. or with a wrench in his pocket or sumth . same reaction when he meets au powder .. King u r in a vulnerable position and a stranger is holding ur only mode of escape I Think It Would've Made Sense if you reacted a lil more harshly understanding your nature .. we won't hate U ..

i think it would've been nice if heimerdinger as a character worked a little harder to earn his trust . Ekko couldn't even trust Caitlyn, an enforcer (self-proclaimed at that time?), so how much more a Councilor .. ?

but idk perchance that is just me. i don't mind the pupil and mentor dynamic they had regardless. it was cutesy to me !!

[danothan]

someone on insta asked me why i hate heimerdinger, and i love being given the opportunity to rant, so i’m sharing it here too

reasons are below the cut bc i talk too much

[id: the "people who like x, people who like y" meme that's been edited to say "people who hate heimerdinger" and "people who like heimerdinger." below the hate column is an egregiously long and blurry essay behind an image of heimerdinger looking angry. below the like column is simply the text "he's nice" above an image of heimerdinger looking troubled. /end id]

1) when jayce even entertains the idea of creating magic through science, heimerdinger shuts it down immediately. how can he, as a scientist, live by the mindset of “some things are better left unknown” or “it can’t be done so don’t bother trying”?

2) the scene where he sees the impossible, the wonders of literal magic before his eyes, and just goes “well just bc it can be done doesn’t mean you should.” ARE YOU NOT IN AWE?? JUST ADMIT THAT YOU WERE WRONG. this scene cemented my hatred for him and it was like the 3rd time he showed up

3) his surface-level sympathy borders on apathy, he has no empathy for humans and views humanity as a general whole rather than the individuals that currently exist. it’s an interesting character trait, but mostly proves to be annoying when it’s all he complains about

4) everything jayce said when the council retired him: he’s a traditionalist, he lives in the past, every scene he’s in is just him being risk-averse to the point of paralysis. he’s cautious but brings NOTHING to the table

and i understand that jayce isn’t innocent bc, as true as his words are, he’s only removing heimer from office bc he threatened to end the one thing that could save viktor, otherwise jayce would’ve just done this before. but that brings me to 5) heimerdinger literally took in viktor and (possibly) gave him his name, but he’s still willing to throw his life away out of a fear of change. as caring as he might be, he doesn’t form real connections with ppl (until ekko shows him that people need a reason to live in order to survive, god bless ekko). he’s out of touch and wants to save humanity as an endgoal at the expense of humans suffering in the present.

6) also when he visited viktor after learning his prognosis and told him “those who shine brightest often burn fastest.” jfc you don’t say that to a dying man, esp one that just confided in you personally that he fears his work will die shortly after he does. you’re basically telling him he “shined so brightly” for nothing, bc he doesn’t even believe it was worth it anyway. sorry you’re dying my boy, it happens!

7) “but he was right all along, viktor and jayce misused hextech, it was too dangerous to forward with it!” if you heard that radiation causes cancer, are you going to prevent the invention of the microwave?? fear can be healthy, but he was stunting growth as a whole. he wasn’t even right btw, “the public isn’t ready for smth like this.” YOU GUYS LITERALLY INVENTED TELEPORTATION, I THINK THEY CAN HANDLE LIFE-SAVING PROSTHETICS. the public won’t suddenly be More ready if you hide it for 10 years!

tldr; heimerdinger is an annoying traditionalist