#I'm talking about Ashley down the street who has too much anxiety for the level of energy in punk music

[symbioticsimplicity]

punk anon here - i appreciate and i respect your response. i do understand what you were going with w/ the nuance answer - but i do also think it's worth examining what the purpose of divorcing a subculture from its roots (here being music) could serve. not to be all "words mean things" but 'punk' as a term often falls into the same loose usage as "revolutionary" where people use it to just basically mean the same as "worthwhile" but framing it as something political when it isn't. maybe I'm overreacting, but i feel like there's cultural damage being done by being flippant with these terms. (not necessarily saying you are but there are literally people calling taylor swift punk and your poll kinda frames it in a way where these people are right!)

Nah, I get where you're coming from too. Like the issue with that ship? If you take all the parts out of something how long is it before you can no longer call that thing the thing it started off as.

As someone who found a lot of his identity through punk music and the culture around the scene while I was estranged from my ethnic cultures, I think I'm a little more prone to letting folks in cause to me the community is a family of sorts.

But Jesus fuck Taylor Swift is not punk, you're right there. Not the music, not the style, and not the attitude. I wasn’t angling for that at all, but I 100% see how the phrasing would imply support for that kind of thinking. I've not run into anyone that daft so I didn't even think about that being a possible interpretation.

That makes a lot more sense to me as a specific argument though and in that case I agree with you. But I'd also consider that an incident of "The vibes are wrong".