#I'm sure someone can come up with a counterexample

[witchofanguish]

A mascot (and more broadly speaking, a patron) is the single most crucial aspect of whether or not something is in the magical girl genre

[majaloveschris]

Is he though? I'm not saying he is perfect, but most people in Hollywood are much more problematic.///

I think this just proved the point of the anon. Yes, Chris is human as we all are, but any time people say anything negative about him, it’s always well there are worse men.

We’re talking about Chris Evans though, not other men, if he was this stand up guy he would NOT be in this situation.

People have and continue to make excuses for him to the point people believe this isn’t him and he’s being forced in this mess, but my question is…..what if this IS him?

His past gfs haven’t been the best either, this current one being the worst due to obvious trolling and racist besties to the point we have to question who he really is to have thought she was the one or publicly have the world believing that’s his wife.

I know many believe due to many things this is fake, but what if it’s not. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Fake or not, he signed off on being associated to her as HUSBAND AND WIFE!

Maybe people simply refuse to accept that the stand up guy many thought really isn’t that stand up.

No mature adult man is going to be in a real or fake relationship with a 26 year old, simple as that. Chris has more control than people realize.

Fandoms get closer and closer to the line of cults because no one can see that these people sell images, matter of fact many will read this ask and try to take one thing and deflect from the bigger issue.

There were people saying Chris doesn’t like women like her because she posted her shower videos and has allegedly been doing videos for pay, yet people forget this man was coddled for posting his own dick pic.

People are going to do as they please, but just be mindful that sometimes your love and infatuation for a person can lead one to becoming very blind.

Chris is going to remain doing crap like this because he makes terrible choices and those choices get enabled or written off with excuses.

I said people, not men. Nobody said he is the best person in Hollywood or that he is the best man in the world. I just said that he doesn't seem a bad person considering what other people do in Hollywood. 

Do we know him? No. He might not be in this because of business but because he loves her. That's a possibility as well. We think it might be fake based on his previous relationships, his previous behavior, his behavior with Alba, and because of the weirdness of this whole relationship. We don't know anything for sure. We just theorize here. 

I do agree that it's dangerous if we put our heads in the sand and act like he is this perfect human being, but the same goes about thinking he is the worst person in this world. I think calling him out is okay, and yeah, he shouldn't be allowed to do whatever he wants, but the line is very thin between healthy and unhealthy fan behavior. Fans shouldn't feel like they can do and say whatever they want either. 

I also think it's really important to not have tunnel vision when it comes to him, because he is still someone we don't fully know. But at the same time, accusing him of crimes isn't right either. Again, the line is very thin. 

But I wouldn't say he doesn't feel the displeasure of the fans when it comes to this situation. Losing followers and fans, getting called out, and getting bullied (which I still don't agree with) shows how unpleasent fans are with his choices. But yeah, there will be people who will always try to find excuses, and they do the same thing with Alba too at this point, but that's how it is. You can go and call those people out too, because we "excusing" him when we say this is PR, and they "excusing" him saying Alba and her fans aren't even that bad, and they must've changed aren't that far from each other. There's always been and will be people who keep excusing someone's behaviors and actions, and he won't be the first counterexample. 

[machine-saint]

art is about communication

i'm sure people have come up with this take before, and i'm sure there's some kind of counterexample someone can come up with, but.

if i open up ms paint, pick a color at random, draw a single pixel, and close it, it's conceivable that i could construct an image that's similar, or even identical to, Sample (which is a single red pixel). but it wouldn't be the same art, because the entire point of Sample is that i computed that color in a very specific way, and it's one single pixel for a very specific reason.

similarly, if i go to midjourney and type in "anime girl" and just go with the first result, i'm not really communicating much other than "i like looking at anime girls". but consider this image:

when i made tired weapon, i was going for a very specific aesthetic: someone (or something) that was made to kill, is very good at killing, is very tired of killing, but will keep doing it anyway. and i had to do a lot of iteration to get to that point (maybe 60-80-ish iterations over an hour), including stuff like tweaking the facial expression because other variations were more "excited" than i wanted, and adjusting the CFG scale to give it that 'sketchy' look. so this is communicating more than some generic "anime girl" picture would. i had something in mind, and i wanted it to come out a very specific way.

i think this is at the root of why the "is AI art art" question arises: historically, most people that were able to generate images at the level of technical skill most generators can exhibit did it because they, or the people paying them, want to communicate something. and developing that technical skill lets you communicate more effectively.

it's like photography (yeah, yeah, i know the comparison is stale). a lot of people take photos only to help remember a moment or to show someone else that moment (they're the same thing; 'you in the future' is basically someone else), without paying much attention to what the photo communicates: the framing, the composition, and so on. but some people take photographs in much more detailed ways, posing and adjusting settings and so on. there's more of a communicative intent here.

we can see something similar with the everyword twitter bot, which tweeted, as the name implies, every word in the English language. none of the tweets really communicate much, per se. but when someone RTs the bot, the develops its own meaning, and that meaning is influenced by the fact that it's an RT from a bot. consider the semantic difference between someone tweeting "women" and someone RTing the everyword tweet containing the word "women". i find myself unable to elaborate on what it is, but it's there.

so i guess what i'm trying to say is: yeah, a lot of ai-generated art is boring "generic attractive woman" stuff that doesn't have a lot to say. but all ai art still has a human typing in the prompt, and it's the human that's being boring.

[a-molecular-machine]

My thoughts exactly. I don't have a huge breadth of anime knowledge under my belt, but I'm sure someone can come up with counterexamples from studios who aren't Ghibli.

You know, now that I think about it, Ghibli has spent quite a large percentage of their movies making some message about nature, so I'd say that that particular comparison (Ghibli vs all of America) is even more unbalanced. Is there a single studio who does anything similar in America? Is it fair to compare the values of Hayao Miyazaki with the entire culture of the US?

I don’t think anime vs western animation are as different as people claim due to the fact they have inspired and fed off each other for decades (they’re friends!!), however I do think our environmental messages to kids are… significantly and interestingly different

whereas, say Ghibli films express a deep Shinto-based respect and reverence for nature:

fighting for it as a means of both self-preservation and expression of heroism revolving around justice

and a matter of other groups of humans (the government often) going up against the stalwart youth

This is contrasted to western animation which tends to be like…. hey! look at this funny bat! And pollution is an evil spirit you can fight like physically 

that isn’t to say the west doesn’t depict environmentalism as heroic and even involving collective action, Captain Planet is a good example of this

but individualism is still very present, the struggle is stalwart youths versus an individual or individual corporation, hell, sometimes you even get a sympathetic backstory for the corporation and weirdly cool rock song

to be clear, antagonists like Lady Eboshi in Princess Mononoke are sympathetic too, but it is… different, Lady Eboshi is trying to survive due to circumstances but it is all of Irontown that represents a system of corruption

In comparison, there is this western idea of corruption coming from individuals rather than systems as well as the fact they aren’t trying to save nature because we are part of it, but because nature itself is a person and thus worthy of respect

In Fern Gully the fairy’s represent nature, the Lorax represents nature, Captain Planet is literally just nature, all things we can talk to and relate to, where in Princess Mononoke and Nausicaa the ultimate nature spirits are something you can’t talk to and are frankly terrifying, awe-inspiring, and mighty

Western epistemology is heavily rooted in Christianity which says that man has dominion over fish of the sea, fowl of the air, and creatures of the land, ect, which leads to a utilitarian and separate view of nature– what can it do for us as separate (higher) beings, and the only way to combat this view is to say “actually nature is a person and thus worthy of protection”

Whereas Japanese Shintoism has much more emphasis on the idea that we are all part of a whole with nature, nature is the ultimate divine with nothing more important than the other, and something worthy of protection not because we can understand it, but because we can’t

“It’s a mistake to think about nature from the idea of efficiency, that forests should be preserved because they are essential to human beings”– Hayao Miyazaki

this is not to completely bash western animation, it does have other strengths such as emphasizing children’s relationship to empathy, empathy toward others in “Toy Story” and empathy toward themselves in “Inside Out” 

However, our methods of conveying environmentalism could use some updating and steering away from “goofy” and “relatable” and maybe a little more terror and awe involved with fighting the good fight