#I'm gonna make theories about what could possibly happen in Miraculous season 6

[nothingtherefornow]

Do people lack empathy and appreciation for superheroes in fiction ?

So ... Today I remembered a day when I went into a new library close to where I lives and when one of the seller offered to inform me about anything I needed about the book in the library, I started asking about Batman and Spider-man comics, which are my favorite (along the Batman/Super-man cross over, the Justice league, the spider-verse and when Spider-man also have cross-over with deadpool and x-men)

And at some point I started talking about how I wish that I could find comics about parallel stories of Batman and Spider-man that I once found and read online, and where the heroes aren't getting traumatized and tormented non-stop and can still enjoy happy and silly moments with their loved ones. Because this is something that started bothering me in the main Amazing spider-man comics continuity happening on earth 616, and the last main Batman serie comics which started in 2016 (I don't remember the name of the earth from that serie, Earth-one I think)

And then I thought about Miraculous Ladybug, about how the ML writters seem to go out of their way to make Marinette and Adrien suffer, while the narrative seems to also set a lot of the blame on Marinette when she doesn't deserve all that pain and hate.

So I asked the seller why superheroes authors couldn't give more a more balanced life to heroes characters, with their downfall but also their happy moments, and why it seems like things always end badly for famous heroes like Spider-man and Batman. Can you guess what he replied to me ?

"Les gens aiment voir les héros se relever, mais ils aiment encore plus les voir sombrer".

Traduction "People love to see heroes rise again, but they love to see them sink more"

And I was like : "0_0 .. WTF ?!! Why would people be so heartless and cruel enough to want to see good heroes get tormented non stop ? How can it motivate anyone to be heroic if the more famous fictitious superheroes constantly get beaten down for trying to do the right thing ?"

That's a depressive reality really. Fortuntaelly I' not the only one who's tired of seeing heroes like Peter Parker and Bruce Wayne be miserable and walking trauma mess, some people on Tumblr would also like to give those two a more happy ending.

Just like I'm sure many of us would love to see Marinette not being constantly threatened to have her life destroyed and ruined by secrets she feels forced to keep because no one ever tells her otherwise, or by jealous psycopath supervillains who have nothing better to do in their life than being poor excuses of human beings.

We've since got the confrmation that season 6 of Miraculous is gonna hurt more than season 5, and to me it means that maybe some of my worst fears about Lila's future strategies to ruin Marinette and Ladybug's lives may turn out to be true 0_O

Lila/Cerise made it very clear at the end of Re-creation that she was gonna go Marinette with ill-meaning intentions, and the psycopath liar may unfortunatelly be half successfull to make Marinette's miserable by the end of season 6 if the ML writters want to satisfy all of those who like to see heroes suffer beyond their breaking point T_T

[noblechaton]

gonna ramble a bit about the ml art style change bc ig I have more thoughts about it than I knew. tagging this as leaks but no like story stuff is gonna be mentioned bc I don't really know any lol

so going off what little we've seen of it (and in arguably the lowest possible quality at that) I think it's gonna make the show very visually pretty which isn't to say it couldn't be or wasn't in the older style(s) but that was def more inconsistent between studios and such so if this new style is the standard then like. yeah it's gonna look great

buuuuuuuut I also think it looks kinda. generic? like what's happened to a lotta brand logos that used to have personality but now all look super flat and simplified. like the Pepsi logo or whatever. it's a similar situation to the movie (I'll get into this in a bit) where like yes it looks pretty but it doesn't really look like Miraculous to me? like ik the style kinda varied somewhat between the studios but it was largely consistent enough and felt much more unique. like I could see a screencap from any timestamp of any episode and place it as Miraculous just bc of the visual style

now tho it looks less unique to me and more....like a mobile game ad? some kinda un-marketed direct to streaming movie? not trying to sound mean or anything but it just doesn't strike that same feeling the old style did for me as of yet. it feels more like an attempt to ape off a generic Pixar/Disney sorta style which the movie's style did too - and that ig is a good excuse for me to kinda dive into my thoughts there bc like. it looks way more like that movie now right? the y'know completely non-canon movie that to my knowledge wasn't received too terribly well lmao. I feel like this is on some level purposeful tho

I made a post the other day about how someone (especially the youngins) might go into season 6 thinking it's actually more of a season 1 only to presumably find that very much isn't the case pretty quick lmao - but that's still a new viewer, which makes number go up, which is a Good Thing. that s6 looks to be something of a fresh start given the whole Gabe in da Ground situation makes me believe this more since I'm pretty sure he got got in the movie too (<- does not remember the movie she saw twice) albeit in a different way. very real chance they view s6 as something of a soft launch pad with the hope of ppl who only saw the movie just jumping in without looking first. I also have an even more insane conspiracy theory that they're using movie assets at lower res for the sake of cost management but again. nutso hunch

regardless I'm kinda surprised they're changing it so drastically this deep into the series and I have no idea how the quality of animation is gonna hold up from episode to episode, season to season. presumably this is part'a why we haven't had s6 drop yet, that they've been working on it thoroughly, but it's been a good minute since s5 ended and I feel like the drought in content isn't really worth it?

like it's been so long that to me sometimes it's felt like the show straight up ended and while I don't mind a wait like this, the show then coming back looking entirely different to how it used to is gonna be jarring. I'm giving it a chance bc we haven't really seen it yet and that footage is very likely a wip of some sort but all the same I'm not terribly impressed? the emotions seem more stilted and flat, there's a few sorta redesigns that look....off (namely Adrichat, imo), and it feels too much like an attempt at cashing in on whatever success the movie might have had by bringing the look of the show more in line with it

think what gets me the most is that the style and animation of the show was one of the biggest things that drew me in beyond the bugcat of it all. it was the first CG animated show I'd seen where I felt as if the animation really worked; the world felt alive and vibrant, the city lived in and populated, but it didn't feel uncanny or like realistic in any sense, and there were plenty of gaffs and flaws throughout but I feel that only endeared the look of the show to me more - it had its own style that stood out for better or worse and I think that played more a role in the show's success than most have given credit for, and now that it's being entirely dropped in favor of a style that feels much more like some generic CG animation style I can't help but feel a bit disheartened and even nervous about the future of the series tbh

want to say that I'm not looking to hate it - I'm gonna give it a chance, and again I think it does visually look pretty, but I feel like it loses a lot of what made the show stand out to me and changes things I don't think really needed changed. time will tell but as of now I'm really not sold on it

also think having a special (or two? maybe?) in the old style just to drop us into the newer one presumably shortly after is kinda weird. wonder what happened there. bad timing? tbh using a special to introduce it mighta helped a bit but idk for sure

[nothingtherefornow]

The Official title of the next Miraculous special has been released (and a synopsis had been leaked) - Nous avons maintenant le titre du prochain episode special de Miraculous (dont le synopsis avait fuité)

Previously titled "The end of Ladybug", and then "Miraculous World, London : Chronobug and the Ghosts of the Past" the future new special episode is gonna be Miraculous World London, At the Edge of Time

And before that the synopsis of this special episode had been leaked

WATCH OUT SPOILER WARNING ! :

So this synopsis confirms my worst fears and hopes about what would happen after Season 5 : my fears that Lila may have indeed saw Bug Noire detransform into Marinette during her final fight against Gabriel,my fear that Lila would use this revelation to win against Maribug, and my hopes that Bunnix's power may be able to prevent this catastrophe.

At first I didn't agree that Lila/Cerise/Iris had discovered who Ladybug is during the season 5 finale, because there was no way Lila wouldn't be able to win quickly with this knowledge. There would be no use for a season 6 with how easily Lila/Iris/Cerise could exploit this secret to win against Ladybug and Marinette and take everything from her. The only way I could see this being possible was if somehow Bunnix was to intervene everytime Lila tries to exploit that knowledge against Marinette in season 6.

But when we discovered the existence of this new special Miraculous episode and its first non-official but explicit title, and confirmed to take place between season 5 and season 6, it was easy to theorize that this epsiode may be about our worst scenario theories coming true. Easy to theorie that Lila would exploit the secrets she discovered in season 5 to "put an end to Ladybug", and that Bunnix's power might be necessary to fix the timeline in this special, so that season 6 might begin without Lila having the biggest advantage of knowing that Ladybug is Marinette.

I'm positively surprised to see that most of our theories about this special will end up being true.

From this synopsis I can only deduce that Chronobug and Bunnix will manage to create a timeline where Ladybug's secret identity was never discovered by whom they will discover to be the one who took the butterfly miraculous after Bug Noire won her fight against Monarch (although in the end she lost against Gabriel), . But I can easily speculate that neither Marinette and Bunnix will know that this new Butterfly villain is Lila, because the moment from the past that they'll have to change to fix the timeline, the moment when Lila saw Bug Noir detransform into Marinette, at this moment Lila was in a disguise, a disguise that I think is enough to makes her unrecognizable to anyone she knows.

I already speculated that the use of this disguise was not just a precaution of Lila to not be recognized by Gabriel or Tomoe if they were to check the cameras after, but also as a precaution to not be recognized by Bunnix, who Lila knows to be Alix. Lila may have anticipated that Ladybug would ask the rabbit heroin to wtach throught her burrow in order to see who was the person who stole the butterfly miraculous in the Agreste Manor, if Lila plan were to work.

This disguise of Lila might be the reason why season 6 will begin with Ladybug and Chat Noir not knowing who Chrysalis is.

Speaking about Chat Noir, some fans may wonder why he was not mentionned in the synopsis. But in a context where Lila knows that Ladybug is Marinette, and that Gabriel was Monarch, a context where Marinette unfortunatelly lied or omitted the truth to Adrien and Chat noir about Gabriel being Monarch, do you really think that Lila would not exploit those secrets to ruin Ladynoir and adrinette relationship ?

We'll see Adrichat in this special, but maybe not as an ally, and probably akumatized by Chrysallis.

The synopsis confirms that in this worst case scenario timeline, Lila managed to steal the Ladybug miraculous from Marinette, so I can easilly imagine Lila posing as a new ladybug heroin who would ruin the previous ladybug's reputation by revealing that she lied about Gabriel Agreste, and hid the fact that he was Monarch. She could thus easilly make Chat Noir angry enough against Ladybug that he would not be in the right mind to be involved in Bunnix and Chronobug quest. And if on top of that Lila chose to reveal to Adrien that Marinette was ladybug, the adrinette relationship could also suffer, and make Adrien unable to assist Marinette.

And now for my fellow french :

Ce synopsis confirme donc mes pires craintes ainsi que mes espoirs sur ce qui pourrait s'être passé durant le final de la saison 5 : mes craintes que Lila déguisée ait éffectivement vu Bug Noire se detransformer en Marinette lors de son combat final contre Gabriel, mes craintes que Lila utilise ainsi cette revelation pour gagner contre Maribug, et mes espoirs que le pouvoir de Bunnix sera en mesure d'empêcher cette catastrophe

Au départ je n'étais pas d'accord avec l'idée que Lila/Cerise/Iris ait découvert qui est Ladybug durant le final de la saison 5, car il était pour moi impossible que Lila ne puisse pas l'emporter avec un tel avantage lui étant procuré grâce à ce secret. Une saison 6 n'aurait effectivement pas lieu d'être dans un tel contexte étant donné la facilité avec la quelle Lila/Cerise/Iris peut gagner en exploitant les secrets de Marinette.

Mais lorsque nous avons découvert l'existence de ce nouvel épisode spécial Miraculous et son premier titre non officiel mais explicite, puis supposé qu'il se déroulerait entre la saison 5 et 6, avant d'avoir la confirmation que cela se deroulera plus précisement durant le final de la saison 5, il était facile de théoriser que cet épisode pourrait concerner nos pires théories de scénario à venir.

Il était facile de théoriser que Lila exploiterait les secrets qu'elle a découverts dans la saison 5 pour "mettre fin à Ladybug", et que le pouvoir de Bunnix serait alors nécessaire pour réparer la ligne temporelle pour que la saison 6 puisse commencer sans que Lila ait le plus gros avantage qui soit : Celui de savoir que Ladybug est Marinette. Je suis positivement surpris de voir que la plupart de nos théories sur ce spéciale se soient avérés vrais

De ce synopsis, je ne peux que déduire que Chronobug et Bunnix parviendront à créer une chronologie où l'identité secrète de Ladybug n'a jamais été découverte par celle qu'elle découvriront être la personne ayant pris le miraculous du papillon après que Bug Noire ait gagné son combat contre Monarch (bien qu'à la fin elle ait quand perdu contre Gabriel T_T). Mais je peux aussi facilement spéculer que ni Marinette ni Bunnix ne sauront que cette nouvelle villaine avec le miraculous du Papillon est Lila, car le moment du passé qu'elle devront changer pour réarranger la timeline correspond au moment où Lila aura vu Bug Noire se détransformer en Marinette, or à ce moment précis, Lila était déguisée, un déguisement qui, je pense, est suffisant pour rendre Lila méconnaissable devant pour tous ceux qu'elle connait.

J'avais déjà supposé que l'utilisation de ce déguisement n'était pas seulement une précaution de Lila pour ne pas être reconnue par Gabriel ou Tomoe s'ils vérifiaient les caméras de surveillance du manoir suite au vol du miraculous convoité, mais aussi par précaution pour ne pas être reconnue par Bunnix, que Lila sait être Alix. Lila avait peut-être anticipé la possibilité que Ladybug demande à l'héroïne lapine de voir à travers son terrier qui serait la personne ayant volé le miraculous du papillon au Manoir d'Agreste si le plan de Lila venait à réussir.

Ce déguisement de Lila pourrait être la raison pour laquelle la saison 6 débutera avec Ladybug et Chat Noir ne sachant pas qui est Chrysalis. En parlant de Chat Noir, certains fans pourraient se demander pourquoi il n'a pas été mentionné dans le synopsis. Mais dans un contexte où Lila sait que Ladybug est Marinette, et que Gabriel était Monarque, un contexte où Marinette a malheureusement menti ou omis la vérité à Adrien et Chat Noir sur le fait que Gabriel était Monarch, pensez-vous vraiment que Lila n'exploitera pas ces secrets pour ruiner les relations Ladynoir et Adrientte ?

Nous verrons Adrien/Chat Noir dans ce spécial, mais peut-être pas en tant qu'allié, mais plus probablement en tant qu'akumatisé de Chrysallis.

Le synopsis confirme que dans cette timeline avec l'un des pires scenario catastrophe, Lila a réussi à voler le miraculeux de la coccinelle à Marinette, donc j'imagine facilement Lila se faisant passer pour une nouvelle héroïne coccinelle qui ruinerait la réputation de la Ladybug précédente en révélant qu'elle a menti à propos de Gabriel Agreste, et caché le fait qu'il était Monarch. Elle pourrait ainsi facilement mettre Chat Noir suffisamment en colère contre Ladybug pour qu'il ne soit pas d'humeur à s'impliquer dans la quête de Bunnix et Chronobug. Et si en plus Lila choisissait de révéler à Adrien que Marinette était Ladybug, la relation Adrinette pourrait aussi en souffrir, et rendre Adrien incapable d'aider Marinette.