#I think he needs a liiittle therapy
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qwertyfingers · 4 years ago
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What's 4 letter word posting?
OH hdhfjf theres a very long and rather infamous destiel fic called four letter word for intercourse in which dean calls a phone sex hotline to like test whether he's right about being bi or not because he's never been with a guy before, and the guy on the other end (is obv cas) calls himself jimmy, and then dean keeps calling to help him figure some stuff out and cas gives him like, therapy sex basically. helps him sort himself out and stop feeling guilty about wanting and needing things, makes him more confident, gives him amazing orgasms etc.
there's also a simultaneous plot inbetween where dean is in college and working in the library every week where cas - who is also a queer theory professor - becomes his study buddy, but they communicate entirely in passed notes becaude they take library silence very seriously. so they have this long slowburn development of becoming friends and both having an enormous and obvious crush on eachother and its very sweet and a really good tonal contrast to all the phonesex scenes
i could tell you its surprisingly profound (it is) but i wont do you the disservice of saying its Not About The Sex as some people have because like. it absolutely is about the sex its all about the sex and i don't think the fic would be nearly as interesting if you weren't enjoying those scenes. i do have issues with some aspects of the fic like its Not perfect and i do think its a liiittle overhyped but it is overall one of the better fics i've read and i really enjoyed talking about it with people. and also i have a draft plan for a mini essay about 4lw and WU therapy sex because im a headcase 💙
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eldritch-elrics · 4 years ago
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svsss notes of the night!
well i am just losing it over the “to cure the poison you must fuck the protagonist because Demon Powers” thing. absolutely hysterical.
sqq: i hate everything i hate this novel why was this a plot point
liu qingge going “hmmm you are nothing like the sqq i know. if i didn’t know better i’d say you were possessed” and sqq going “hmm well we are just not going to talk about that!” is also so funny
i really really hope that someone at some point finds out his secret. please. it needs to happen
like come on lbh at least should know... eventually....
also on “plot points i find hilarious”: sqq getting pushed into the role of the love interest by the system
also a liiittle uncomfy given the stage of their relationship they’re at rn but ehhh i think it’s fun
he’s having an effect on the plot!!!
okay i love meng mo
just the entire concept behind him is fantastic
i also have an oc who’s a lot like him!
“exploring a character’s trauma through their dreamscape” is such a good trope
already said this but aaaaaaaaa that moment between lbh and sqq was so sweet.. they are like.... found family-ing up in this bitch
but also binghe go to therapy challenge
excited for the character development where lbh starts talking back to sqq/seeing him as an equal
meng mo: please my boy can you go a moment without mentioning your shizun this is getting weird
anyway WOOOOO DEMONIC CULTIVATION! POSSESSION! LOVE THIS SHIT
sqq trying so hard to be cool and internally panicking and yelling at the system is always great
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tothedarkdarkseas · 5 years ago
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Any headcanons regarding the short and long term effects of Plastic Beach on Stu's mental and physical health?
This is such a big question with such a big answer that, funny enough, I fear it’ll end up rather small. The fic I’ve been working on the last couple months is actually about exactly this, just addressing how Stu behaves in the touring aftermath of Plastic Beach with no real effort made to talk about it, and… for how much I do care about the topic of Stu and PB, I guess I shouldn’t be shocked that it’s difficult to put into words. Mostly because I don’t think Stu himself is putting it into words. (Sidebar: despite some “writer’s block” with that, I did start writing a different, shorter and bantz-ier oneshot because of all the excitement about the characters your asks have stirred up in my little one-track brain! So thank you very much, sincerely, it really has meant very much to know someone was interested and doesn’t just hate the unflattering way I write them.)
I’m sure someone can make a good case for this being a cop-out, but I don’t like putting too fine of a point on exactly what the psychological or mental states of the characters are; everyone has different approaches to media and for some it’s essential to know a diagnoses, but I actually feel like I can connect with things more if the effects (both on the character in the dark, and on their relationships with others) are just presented without commentary so to speak. I do think Stu deals with PTSD following Plastic Beach, but I don’t think that he or anyone else is acknowledging it as such. I think while he may have been prone to depressive episodes prior to it, he strikes me as generally more moody and expressive over things like his breakup with Paula, or his building resentment and eventually toppling hostility toward Murdoc. I think that after Plastic Beach, Stu becomes more disassociative than he has been since his months in PT after the coma, he feels less connected to his band or family, less connected to reality, and less at home in his own mind. I understand it is more comforting to suggest Stuart enters some form of therapy and phase 4 is all about bouncing back, he makes no indications of struggling at all after the break, but… I do tend to play a liiittle fast and loose with canon, and phase 4 is still a very long time after Plastic Beach. It’s just not in my personal headcanon that Stu or Murdoc have sought professional help, and it’s not in my personal headcanon that Stu is willing to acknowledge he has any need for it. I don’t say that sort of thing to be “angsty” but– well, more to tap into an unfortunate reality that working class men of a certain age and certain background may not ever be willing to put a name to thoughts like that. I do kinda play to them both as a more mundanely sad sort of British fellow, and while I think Stu was once surprisingly in-your-face about his feelings– namely when the feelings were that Murdoc’s a twat and he’d like everyone in the area to be aware of it– that is something Plastic Beach takes away from him, and he becomes more the “”classic”” picture of repression and avoidance. When it’s something you’re giving a name to, it’s something you’re giving life to. It’s a harder thing to justify, staying as he is, living as he is, when he’s let something awful in the room and is staring right at it. It’s harder to look at Murdoc with that in the room, and that’s not a thing he’s doing much of now. I’d imagine the physical impact is tied in closely with the mental impact; I don’t think Stu sustained lasting additional injuries, but I’m sure there are physical symptoms (such as vertigo and nausea) that present, and he tampers down with the codeine.
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