#I mean the first time ive seen a practising christian who is french and not from immigration/oversea was in HS and im from brittany 💀

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Interesting that you talk about it lmao because i have a kinda similar headcanon that francis is a strong atheist but describe himself as culturally christian

Since clovis's baptem he officialy considered himself christian and was a practising one, enhancing the whole eldest daughter of church thing but after the revolution he started becoming less practising until the separation of the church and the state were he became an atheist although still being emotionally attached to catholicism. Laicité being branded as the number 1 value of the republic, im pretty sure francis today would be lowkey anti religion, although actually liking deism and the idea of christianity

Would Francis be catholic or atheist today ? Hard to say anything about his religion. There's no official census like that to base his faith on the population's, so it's hard to say. However, as a french, I think this is how he would describe himself as : "Traditionally catholic"

A lot of people I know around me, including the French side of my family, don't believe in god. However, some of them would still practise catholic rituals (don't know the word sorry eidheje) like (mostly) baptism. So when it comes to polls, they'd vote catholic even though they don't believe in god. Of course a lot also simply say they're atheist (close family in my case).

So what about Francis? [Read it through my headcanon that he is born a gaul] Well, he's seen the birth of Christianity, but he would have had gone through two religions by then (Celtic->Roman). So, it might be me looking at it through an atheist point of view, but I don't think Francis would have believed that much in Christianity—at first. When the Franks came, he finally got baptised and adopted the Christian faith. But I want to say he did so more put of a will to stay close to his people, the gallo-roman, he who was a gaul before. Faith might have come to him later on. He might not have been the strongest believer, but he was attached to Christianity (especially Catholicism) because it's what he saw as a link between him and the people (see Jeanne d'Arc!).

When the religion wars started, he was devastated, because the thing he thought was bringing him peace was now tearing him apart. But he still called himself Catholic. When the French Revolution started, he saw how the clergy were seen by the people, and began to doubt his faith. With the other revolutions of the XIXth century, he ended up not trusting the Church anymore and grew distant with his faith. It's not like his people would hate him for it anyway, a lot of them did so as well.

And here he is now. Not quite Christian, not quite Atheist. Did he ever truly believe in god? No idea, and I don't know if I will ever make up my mind about it. Agnostic theist/atheist would be the closest bet. He can't deny how much Christianity has impacted his and his people's lives, for better of for worse. But as a french, Traditionally Catholic seems to be the best term to describe it.

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I have like the exact same thoughts. Holy shit the low-key anti religion part is almost like my dad jsisjs

Would Francis be catholic or atheist today ? Hard to say anything about his religion. There's no official census like that to base his faith on the population's, so it's hard to say. However, as a french, I think this is how he would describe himself as : "Traditionally catholic"

A lot of people I know around me, including the French side of my family, don't believe in god. However, some of them would still practise catholic rituals (don't know the word sorry eidheje) like (mostly) baptism. So when it comes to polls, they'd vote catholic even though they don't believe in god. Of course a lot also simply say they're atheist (close family in my case).

So what about Francis? [Read it through my headcanon that he is born a gaul] Well, he's seen the birth of Christianity, but he would have had gone through two religions by then (Celtic->Roman). So, it might be me looking at it through an atheist point of view, but I don't think Francis would have believed that much in Christianity—at first. When the Franks came, he finally got baptised and adopted the Christian faith. But I want to say he did so more put of a will to stay close to his people, the gallo-roman, he who was a gaul before. Faith might have come to him later on. He might not have been the strongest believer, but he was attached to Christianity (especially Catholicism) because it's what he saw as a link between him and the people (see Jeanne d'Arc!).

When the religion wars started, he was devastated, because the thing he thought was bringing him peace was now tearing him apart. But he still called himself Catholic. When the French Revolution started, he saw how the clergy were seen by the people, and began to doubt his faith. With the other revolutions of the XIXth century, he ended up not trusting the Church anymore and grew distant with his faith. It's not like his people would hate him for it anyway, a lot of them did so as well.

And here he is now. Not quite Christian, not quite Atheist. Did he ever truly believe in god? No idea, and I don't know if I will ever make up my mind about it. Agnostic theist/atheist would be the closest bet. He can't deny how much Christianity has impacted his and his people's lives, for better of for worse. But as a french, Traditionally Catholic seems to be the best term to describe it.