#I honestly didn't read all that but I think i got the jist somehow
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toiletguy04 · 7 months ago
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Although I agree with some points, the way they ended season 4 was bound to evoke questions regarding ships.
Aside from the kind of telling ending sequence, there were also loose ends that were left to elicit suspicions and hopes. For example, the Mileven storyline being repetitive and dragged and the reason's still unclear which leaves people to speculate things. The season 3 ending being too odd and for what? It's being stretched for too long over and over again because... their relationship's a central theme? If there's something to expect, I believe it's El being independent on s4. So if Byler won't happen, Mileven would still be over. All signs leading to that. Plus you saying it's crucial to the plot disregards every character growth Eleven had from s1 to 4. All of her storylines is finding out who she is and you're claiming Mike is an integral factor for that? (He may be in season 3, and also it would make sense but only if she breaks up with him in season 5 because if she stays then what's the whole point of everything, I'm too sleepy to elaborate on this)
Which means all the byler speculations are plausible. Because why would they confirm Will's feelings during season 4, like you said, abruptly if not to imply? Bylers weren't around that much before season 4 and yet they confirmed Will's feelings for Mike. As a way to satisfy fans? If they want representation so bad why not do it another way? Like you said, Will and Mike's friendship has depth and goes way beyond as the show showed, why ruin it by making the other in an unrequited love? For character development? Again, they could've made a different storyline for that. There's a lot more clues hinting to a possible Byler endgame which you'll see if you actually take your time to consider and read the theories (There's too many to jot down).
In conclusion, perspective can be interesting but a narrative wouldn't exist if there were no pre-existing subtext. The Bylers may have dabbled beyond canon and looked at things too much but all the theories are valid until proven otherwise. The understanding you have is surface-level, relying solely on what was explicitly implied rather than the subtexts present somewhere. It may be snug to hold onto something canonically implied, not being open to possibilities might bite u back in the ass. Byler happening, Byler not happening, who knows. Let's all just enjoy the show?
Byler is Not Happening in Season Five of Stranger Things
Part 1
First and foremost, it would be implausible for the show to abruptly shift Mike Wheeler's love interest after several seasons of build-up. Since Eleven (Jane Hopper) was introduced as a character, the show has consistently highlighted the romantic attraction between her and Mike. Initially portrayed as middle school puppy love, their relationship has evolved over the seasons. Whether through comments from Mike's best friends, Lucas Sinclair and Dustin Henderson, or remarks from his sister, Nancy Wheeler, it has been clear that Mike has romantic feelings for Eleven, despite his attempts to hide it as a typical middle school crush.
The Duffer Brothers effectively depicted the growing romantic tension between Mike and Eleven throughout the first season, culminating in their first kiss in the cafeteria after Mike invited Eleven to the Snowball dance. While the main focus of season one was finding Will, Mike's showed that same dedication to finding Eleven , who went missing, and was evident when he tried to contact her for 353 days via walkie-talkie, as revealed in the last episode of season two and seen once or twice throughout the season. Basically what this means is that Mike would go to extreme extents to help out his friends... not just Will.
Although season two includes several scenes centered on Byler (Mike and Will), it is crucial to understand that the affection they show towards each other stems from their deep friendship. Best friends naturally comfort each other during difficult times. For example, in the "crazy together" scene, Mike comforts Will after a traumatic experience, sharing his own struggles with missing Eleven. This scene emphasizes their bond, as they both feel like they are going "crazy" for different reasons. Contrary to some interpretations, Will is not upset by Mike's mention of Eleven; he actually appears glad to share a connection with Mike, despite their differing problems.
Part 2
The fight between Mike Wheeler and Will Byers in season three of Stranger Things has been widely misinterpreted by some fans. During their argument, Mike's remark, "It's not my fault you don't like girls," was not intended as a bait against Will's sexuality. Instead, Mike meant that Will was not interested in dating, unlike the rest of their group at that time. This comment, while harsh, was a reflection of Mike's frustration with the changes in their friendship dynamics as they grew older.
It is essential to note that Mike's statement had no bearing on his own heterosexuality or his potential romantic involvement with Will. Mike's established romantic interest in Eleven has been a central narrative element throughout the series, and this moment of conflict with Will was more about their diverging interests and the strains of adolescence than any latent romantic tension between Mike and Will. Misinterpreting this scene undermines the depth of their friendship and disregards the broader context of their character development.
Moreover, suggesting a romantic affair between Mike and Will would disrupt the foundational narrative built around Eleven's character. Mike's relationship with Eleven is pivotal to the storyline, and introducing a romantic subplot with Will would not only feel forced but also undermine the carefully constructed dynamics that have been developed over multiple seasons. The show's continuity and emotional resonance depend on maintaining the integrity of these relationships.
Part 3
Just because Will Byers is a canonically queer character does not mean that Mike Wheeler must also be queer to create a new ship within the show. Representation is important, but forcing a character into a particular sexual orientation simply to satisfy a subset of the fanbase would undermine the authenticity of the show's narrative and character development. Mike's feelings for Eleven have been consistently portrayed throughout the series, and there is no substantial evidence to suggest that his romantic inclinations extend beyond her.
Moreover, the conflicts and arguments between Mike and Eleven are a normal part of any teenage relationship. It is unrealistic to expect their relationship to be "smooth sailing" all the time. The challenges they face and the disagreements they have are typical of young love, where both individuals are still learning about themselves and each other. These conflicts add depth to their characters and make their relationship more relatable and realistic. They reflect the natural ups and downs that come with growing up and navigating romantic relationships during adolescence.
Part 4
Many of the fanbase's theories regarding Byler are not only incorrect but also delusional when subjected to even a little fact-checking and research. For instance, some fans interpret every close interaction between Mike and Will as romantic, ignoring the context of their long-standing friendship. Scenes like the "crazy together" moment are often misrepresented to fit a desired narrative, despite clear evidence that they showcase platonic support.
The theory that Mike is secretly in love with Will disregards the multiple seasons of character development and explicit expressions of Mike's feelings for Eleven. A thorough review of the show’s episodes, interviews with the creators, and official materials confirms that Mike's storyline is deeply intertwined with Eleven's. The Duffer Brothers have repeatedly emphasized the importance of Mike and Eleven's relationship as a core element of the series.
In conclusion, the notion of Byler happening in season five is inconsistent with the show's established narrative. Mike and Eleven's relationship, with all its complexities and growth, has been a central theme. It is important to appreciate the story as it unfolds, recognizing that not all characters need to fit into every fan theory or ship. Fact-checking and a deeper understanding of the characters’ arcs reveal that many fan theories are simply wishful thinking rather than plausible plot developments.
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thebackroomshost · 2 years ago
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so! i heard your taking requests for bob x reader! BOY DO I HAVE A LOT!!! ok here's one i've been wanting the most!! but haven't had the time to make it myself, bob x reptilian featured reader!
reader has scales only on their neck and some on their legs, a large snake tail, medium size claws for hands, enlonged elf ears, can stick to walls, and have increased human abilities! such as smell, hearing, etc! but im sure you got the jist. :) this is a long one, i hope you don't mind! i'm so very excited to see! also the scenario is that reader accidentally startled bob when scaling the wall to get something they can't reach. but it can be whatever you want!
Y E S >:) I got you bro! Also! Really love that idea, don't think i've seen anyone do it before! (IM REALLY SORRY FOR THE LONG WAIT-)
(I hope this is how you wanted it ^^")
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Enjoy !
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It was currently midnight and you were unable to sleep. How exciting! You had to be somewhere later on today and yet you couldn’t relax enough to sleep. Perhaps you should go make some tea to calm your nerves. You had read somewhere that it helped!
Finally getting out of your bed and making your way down the hall, you made your way to the kitchen. But little did you know, you weren’t alone. In fact, there was someone in your bedroom, whatever it was would have attacked but you had gotten up. Who might that be though? None other than Bob Velseb. You yourself never really watched the news so you never heard of him...nor knew he was in your house...Yet, you could feel that someone was watching you but just shook it off. You took it as you just being really tired that you were starting to feel things that probably weren't truly there.
You just went to the kitchen, trying to reach for the tea that was located above the sink cabinet but you weren't being very successful in your task. You sighed, your large scale-like tail swagging to the side before you put your hands on the wall beside the sink and started to climb up a bit to be able to reach the cabinet.
The murderer that was behind you in question was now able to see that you were half covered in scales. This threw him off a bit which made you quickly notice him, making you fall onto the ground. You knew him. You knew this killer all too well. It was Bob.
And he somehow made his way into your house..But the killer didn't seem that scary at the moment. You stared at his confused yet surprised expression until it hit you. You had forgotten you barely went outside, so people barely saw you. And when you did go out, you'd make to cover yourself so no one really saw how you had scales and a tail.
You should be scared but you couldn't help but chuckle at the murderer's reaction to you. Your chuckling must have knocked Bob out of the little confused state he was in because he soon quickly tried to attack you, but you were quicker than him and moved out of the way of danger
It was funny that he got mad at you for laughing at him but you honestly couldn't help it
But anyway! You hid somewhere you knew he wouldn't find you.
......
Yep. That's right. On the ceiling.
There was no way he'd even think to look up to you. You kept your tail in between your legs as you clung to the ceiling with your claws
And you were right. It seemed he looked for you for about half an hour before deciding to give up and leave. He seemed so frustrated when he couldn't find you. Might have gone to go after someone else for prey but hey! You were off the hook...
For now...
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