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#I guess the stated goal of this guy's work isn't so much to establish solutions as it is facts
ivan-fyodorovich-k
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well lots to think about there
#I think...
#it's good to come right out and say that turning back the clock is not the solution
#i think that's accurate
#the idea that you can have women kind of emerge as serious players in the last couple generations and then just snatch it away
#not only is it cruel it's patently ridiculous
#that said some of the concluding bits
#I don't know
#I wonder
#is there an appetite for that kind of irenic posture?
#it seems hard for one to adopt that yes-also posture you can be interested in women's liberation and also acknowledge this other problem et
#he says something about how when you look at the 'traditional' way of thinking about gender issues and the traditional direction
#you can't be surprised if all you have to offer men is to tell them how horrible they are or just to sign them up as allies
#they just look elsewhere
#i've felt that way about it for a long time
#i've spent my whole life hearing about what utter garbage men are from every corner
#not in the least from women telling me all the things Men have done to them
#there's just no possible coherent response i can imagine
#i've been increasingly worried as my sons get older that all i really have to offer them is an admonition not to be a rapist
#and perhaps more broadly to get out of the way of women
#this is the feeling among all the academics i know
#put your tail between your legs submit smile no matter what they say about you and they do say some hurtful things and laugh
#or else
#again
#this non-starter solution to just become some wild misogynist provocateur
#I guess the stated goal of this guy's work isn't so much to establish solutions as it is facts
#I do wonder what the solution could be
#i sympathize with the desire to check out
#oh I also cannot imagine any kind of positivity about fatherhood that would land or ring true or anything like that
#however essential they find the presence of fathers to be
#but that's another discussion
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