#I don't think I could've taken seeing twitter's stupid takes too

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God, I'm so glad I deleted my Twitter and stopped following Max and red bull on TikTok and Instagram. I haven't seen a thing about Red Bull being assholes with Lando and I'm so happy.

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Why Jelsa is Ridiculously Stupid

Let me start off by saying that the idea of this ship was cute at first, I have nothing against it. In fact I have a few ships myself that have nothing to back them up. I am not making this to convince people to be anti, stop the ship itself, or spread any form of hate what so ever.

But this Jelsa fandom has gone too far. And when I say "jelsa shippers," of course I don't mean ALL of them, just about 80% of them.

In fact, I'm very appreciative of the few jelsa shippers who don't go around harassing others because "jelsa is life."

Also, allow me to correct you in saying that I'm not a jelsa hater, I'm a jelsa loather. There's a difference. Most jelsa haters, hate jelsa for the sake of hating it.

I genuinely hate it.

And don't go commenting about, "how do you know you don't like it if you've never tried it?" Because you see, that's where you're wrong. I did used to ship it, when I was 11. I was a child, I was new to the internet, I didn't know better. But I do now!

I am writing this so that some who may not know, will now understand why jelsa is bad and because I need to get all of this out of my system. I am slowly dieing inside.

First; I'm gonna go into how all the excuses to ship this are pointless. Next, I'll talk about just how these two would never work out as a couple. Then, will be what the toxicity has done to not just to the ship itself, but to the big four as well. And finally, I'll go into how uncreative the shippers are and just what horrible/stupid things they've done and are still doing.

1) Excuses are Pointless

Excuse #1: They have the same powers.

...Yeah, that's like saying you ship Lavagirl (Sharboy and Lavagirl) and Bolin (LoK) because they can both control lava. That's not a valid reason to ship anyone. There needs to be actual substance and I'll only say that once because that sentence applies to every excuse here.

Excuse #2: They look alike

🤦🤦🤦 First of all: that's also like saying you ship Tiana (Princess and the Frog) and Frozone (The Incredibles) because they're both black. Second of all: no they don't. It may be because I'm an artist so I notice small details, but here's how it is; Jack's hair is white, Elsa's is platinum blonde. Jack has a square chin, Elsa has a round face. Jack is much paler! THEIR EYES AREN'T EVEN THE SAME SHADE OF BLUE!!! Your excuse is null and void. Even so, if characters do look alike, then they're most likely to be related. Especially in animation.

Excuse #3: Jack can teach Elsa to have fun and Elsa can teach Jack to be serious

This clearly proves the point that jelsa shippers don't know these characters. The job of teaching Elsa how to be social and have fun is already taken by Anna. So if anything, Elsa will see Jack as a younger brother. And Jack wouldn't have been chosen to take on such a responsibility of guardianship if he didn't know when to quit. I don't know what it is about playful characters that make people think they're obnoxious. Jack is an immortal teenager with the heart of a child, that's what makes him a good guardian. But he's been alive for over 300 years, he bound to have the mind capacity of an adult and he does know better. He doesn't play when he's in battle, he's dead serious.

Excuse #4: They understand each other because they were both isolated for a long time

I don't know where you come from but people don't really "bond" over their trauma. Infact, if anything, that would make the relationship more unstable. Plus, Elsa isolated herself for 13 years because she was afraid of her powers. Jack was forced into isolation for 300 years! He has never been afraid of his powers and Elsa could still be seen throughout the day by parents and servants. They would never be able understand what the other went through.

Excuse #5: They both have a sister they love

SO WHAT?! At least half of the population have sisters. Simple as that. It's a horrible excuse.

Excuse #6: They both have an enemy in fear

Bruh, almost every fictional character has to deal with their fears, literal or mental. It's not at all unique to these two.

Excuse #7: Jack can teach Elsa to control her powers

She already has control of them by the end of the movie. And even if you mean prier to that, the reason she couldn't control them was because she feared them. I doubt that even if she could see him and if he showed her his powers, she's be irrational, believing that their powers were different.

Excuse #8: William Joyce says he ships it

Really, you're going to base the possibility of a ship because the writer of the 'books' that "inspired" rotg says he likes it. First: the books and movie are not the same worlds. Two: he most likely stated this in order for jelsa shippers to shut up to him about it. And three: his own canon with the books is a mess as it is. With him adding a bunch on random/unnecessary details on twitter that have no relevance or reference in the books. Even if he does ship it, everything that's going on with Jack's character in the books is weird enough as it is. Plus he's physically 14 in the books. I know age doesn't really matter but Elsa would definitely feel weird about dating someone who looks so young when she's currently 24 by the second movie.

Excuse #9: They could've met before the events of rotg

Not a reason to ship them but whatever 🙄 Even if their stories were based in the same world (which it isn't), Elsa never would've believed in fairy tales. Having to grow up so soon and all. She believes in magic, of course, but you need to believe in the individuals themselves in order to see them. Plus it is very clear in rotg that Jamie is Jack's first believer.

Excuse #10: Now that Frozen 2 is out, they are both spirits who followed the memories of their loved ones. They can live forever together!

Once AGAIN, how does this factor to them being a good couple? Plus the title of spirit is different in the Frozen-verse than the Guardian-verse. Guardian-verse; they are un-aging beings who keep the entire world in balance. Frozen-verse; never confirmed to be immortal (especially since 3 out of 5 spirits are inanimate objects), magical things that keep a single forest secure. The only reason the elements needed a fifth spirit was most likely because the one before Elsa died of old age. Plus the idea of Elsa outliving Anna goes against the theme of sisterly love that both movies strive on. This can be changed in fanfiction but I hate how people lie about her mortality for an excuse to ship.

Excuse #11: They're both single

So what? People ship characters who aren't single with other characters all the time. That's not a reason to ship them. Especially since your statement is false because Tooth is Jack's canon love interest.

It is true that jelsa haters will give reasons to not ship that I necessarily don't agree with.

•Like the age gap — Jack has the mental capacity of an adult, as I've said before. He's smart enough to make his own choices.

•Elsa not being immortal — that doesn't mean they can't still date, even if he outlives her. Plus you can change that in fanfiction.

•They come from different studios and will never be canon — Again, this is fanfiction, we can do whatever we want.

•Elsa is independent and shipping her with someone takes her independence away — for one: most of the world is bound to find love at some point in time. I would imagine that Elsa would want to find love like her sister. Two: Mulan, Pocahontas and Jasmine are very independent and they all still ended up with men. Three: she's not that independent to begin with. Independence isn't relationship status, it's your ability to make it on your own and Elsa is clearly, very dependant on Anna and her safety. Which is actually what pushes her to being a bad sister in Frozen 2. In fact it is because they made her more 'independant' in the sequel that Elsa clearly, no longer loves Anna as much as Anna loves her (you can check out Watso Videos' video on YouTube about how Elsa is a bad sister bc I'm not gonna go into it here).

My god that was ALL just part one. This is gonna take forever 😰

2) How they would never work out

For Elsa, she needs someone who is calm and collected. A rock for her to stand on when she's being irrational. Possibly even someone who is very stoic and straight to the point but with enough sense of humor to lighten the mood. And now that I'm thinking about it, Honeymaren fits that description to a tee. I'm not one to push LGBT+ in anyone's face, but I'm not gonna judge ships on characters assumed sexualities either. Even though Honeymaren didn't have much screen time, her personality still showed through and Elsamaren could very well work.

Jack on the other hand needs someone who would be able to keep up with his playful nature as well as be a rock for him to stand on when he's emotional. Tooth is a good suitor even though I don't really ship it myself. Hiccup, Merida and Rapunzel could also fit in this description.

They don't have the ability to be each other's rocks. They can't be stable if they both need someone to keep them so. If they were to date, the relationship would crumble before it even began.

Plus Jack has to be a guardian and there are a lot of fanfics that go into this idea of Jack being the king of Arendalle? First off: I'm fairly certain that you can't marry into royalty to become king. At least in the real world. Second: Jack wouldn't be able to handle that responsibility with him already being a guardian. And he can't just leave guardianship either, it was what he always was and was ment to be. And Elsa has the responsibility of keeping a magical forest in check, she can't leave to become a guardian.

3) The Toxicity

Oh my God! The fanfiction! As I usually say, you can do whatever you want in fanfiction. But if you have to butcher all the characters so much in EVERY fanfic in order to make the ship work, then there's clearly something wrong here! In every fanfic I've ever seen, the characters are so out of character it's insane. Not just Jack and Elsa, every character.

Olaf for example, is practically in love with Jack first meeting, in every fanfic. If he were to actually meet Jack, he would be apprehensive of him.

It's horrifying in not only that, but jelsa shippers will add Rapunzel a lot, just in spite of Jackunzel. They turn Rapunzel into a needy ex-girlfriend of Jack's when in reality, she's a very sweet and kind soul. Even if she and Jack had dated, they would've split on good terms and stayed friends after. There have also been cases where they do the same but with Tooth. Sometimes even both and it's honestly sick.

And let's talk about the sexism as well HAHA! I swear to God, they will rewrite Frozen but where Jack will save Elsa instead of Anna. They write Elsa as a hormonal teenage girl who falls in love with Jack within seconds.

This is from an actual jelsa shipper, my dude. WTF!!! They make Jack super dominant as well as a douche who cheats on Elsa half the time. Jack is not that dominant, he's a very emotional guy. And he'd be the most faithful boyfriend on the planet. He was alone for 300 years! If anything, he'd be clingy but not too clingy because he also understands personal space.

And if you like angsty fanfiction where a character cheats on the other, there are literally no fanfics where Elsa cheats on Jack. As if a woman couldn't possibly cheat. This is very sexist towards men and women and is toxic as hell.

If anything, Elsa would cheat on Jack, she's not exactly trustworthy in keeping promises or being loyal.

I swear, half of the jelsa shippers has never even seen rotg and just go by what they read in others fanfiction.

Jelsa shippers have gotten so bad about this ship that they've low-key harassed people for not shipping it, as well as start shipping wars within the big four fandom. That's the reason the fandom truly shrunk after 2013. I've seen posts about people admitting to leaving the fandom because it got so bad.

4) The Shippers

Jelsa shippers have literally threatened lives, not just to other fans but even to the creators of the movies. Literally threatening them into making the ship canon. They've made patitions to make it canon as if that would work. They've even harassed a lot of recent shippers to Elsamaren because "jelsa is canon."

Oh look at that, they're homophobic too...

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... That's great 🙃

Isn't it a bigger sin to love a celestial being though? Therefore the fact that you –as a toxic christian– ship Elsa with a spirit it worse.

THEY'RE DELUSIONAL!!! So many of them have shipped jelsa so long that legit think it's canon!

Not only all that mess but there are literally more jelsa games on the internet then there are Merida games. I'm specifying this for personal reasons (aka Merida is my fave Disney princess)

And let's continue on with what really aggravates me as an artist. Jelsa shippers, stealing artwork, mostly from Jackunzel. This is not just a rumor, it's very much real.

And it doesn't help when all of their actual original fanart is just them taking scenes from Frozen and adding Jack. Then to add more salt on the wound is that almost all the fanfiction is the same, whether it'd be based during Frozen, rotg or in a highschool au.

There's literally nothing original about or going on with this ship, even after Frozen 2 came out, the shippers and fanfiction haven't changed. If anything it made the shippers spike up again.

The only thing that could say is original about jelsa is the frost daughter fanon. Oh boy! What we have to unpack here.

This is something that I recently heard about...

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I am mortified.

Frost daughters is this little thing that jelsa shippers came up with, believing Jack and Elsa (if they could get pregnant) would have nothing but girls. What's scary about it is they're designs. Like they're trying to be original... But it's not really going great.

Most of them are just young!Elsa copies, some are edits of Elsa with Jack's hair color.

For example:

This is fine, this follows genetrical rules. I'm fine with this.

But what has me low-key petrified are some of the other designs.

Like... WTF IS ALL OF THIS!!! Where are this colors coming from?!! I don't understand 😭 You can see in the screen shots that these are literally titled as daughters of jelsa.

The white haired ones are fine. The ginger is understandable. Got it from Elsa's dad's genes. That's okay. A few are wearing pink? They can wear what ever they want. But wtf I'd going on with Nevada? Why is she black? Jack and Elsa the pastiest of white! And you cannot tell me that she got it from Elsa's mom because this was made BEFORE Frozen 2 and her mother is still white as an adult.

Where tf does the blue and pink hair come from? None of these make sense!

I want to kill myself, just looking at these!

That's gonna be the end of this rant

Now I'll say it again, I really have nothing against the ship itself. I too have casual ships that make no sense. But with ALL the fanfiction and fanart being so unoriginal and most jelsa shippers low-key being dangerous, it's hard for me respect people's opinions about it.

I try, trust me, I do! But it's become so murky in my brain that I can't tell the difference anymore and I'm also just not a fan of Elsa's character in general. And I like ships that actually make sense.

And being that I'm an equalist... it's really hard for me to look at this stuff and not get pissed off. I'm sorry if all of this comes off as aggressive because it kinda is.

I'm just very passionate, okay?

I hope you understand where I'm coming from. None of the pictures I used are mine. And I hope you have a good day?

[stoopsbookstore]

The Fan (Chapter 1)

Warning - Please beware of the fact that this is a Yandere AU and therefore will have violence, blood, and smut. Everything will have a trigger warning before every chapter. If you feel uncomfortable, please take caution when reading this or any of the Halloween Series.

"Do you always wear that stuff? The mask and glasses?"

Seonghwa pointed at the fabric covering the driver's face, Milton concentrating on the road before him.

"Yes, you never know what disease those creeps have."

"I know Yeosang had the flu a few weeks ago, but he should be fine now," an awkward chuckle came out of Seonghwa's mouth, Milton focused on the road, "why are you so tense?"

"Bloom is hosting an free impromptu fanmeet?" A red light stopped them, Milton hitting his steering wheel in frustration, "I need to get a good spot for Y/N."

"That's right, you're a fansite for Y/N! Why don't you ever come hang out with us. We could always use some tips from the great White Jasmine."

"Sorry, man," Milton turned into the parking lot, cheers erupting from the parking lot as the boys put on their fansite passes, "I would, but I prefer working alone."

"Working with friends can really help you. One of my friend, Hongjoong, helped San with his fansite."

Milton scoffed, "but working alone can hone your skills and you don't run the risk of someone possibly stealing your images."

"I guess," the awkward tension got heavier as the pair got out of the car, fighting their way through the crowd just as Bloom pulled up.

"There they are! Thanks for the ride!" Seonghwa took 10 dollars out of his pocket, handing it to Milton, his glasses becoming darker with every step in the mall.

"Pick your petal! Hi, we are Bloom!"

The camera flashes and clicks, the girls posing in their outfits designed in their respective color.

Y/N spotted Milton and Seonghwa, waving at them, the cream sleeve flapping in the air.

Milton was starstruck everytime he saw Y/N. Her beauty was unmatched, he only had eyes for her. The way her hips moved when she danced, the way her facial expressions shined, he was mesmerized everytime the group was on stage.

He checked the photos he had taken, most were great except one.

It was Y/N in her outfit, the skirt raising up a littls bit too much to reveal the white safety shorts she had underneath, the crease of her ass appearing.

"Maybe if the skirt was a little shorter, huh?" A nosy guy came up to Milton, looking at the photo, "How about if the shirt was lower cut too? Do you think they pa-"

Milton pushed the guy in a fit of rage, running away before any more commotion ensued. The guy crashed into Seonghwa, his camera falling to the floor, the lens shattering.

"Fuck, my camera! Maybe we should go, people are starting to get rowdy," Yeosang helped Seonghwa up, the trio leaving as Jongho kept snapping pictures of the girl group.

"What the hell happened?"

"That Milton ass pushed a dude into Seonghwa," Yeosang unlocked his car, the group getting in the vehicle, all in varying degrees of annoyance, "that bastard always ruins everything."

"He gave me a ride earlier, he's fucking weird."

"You got a ride from him?" Jongho bopped Seonghwa on the head, "dude, you're both Y/N biased, he could've killed you."

"But I didn't, so let's focus on the bright side and get home for this meeting."

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Seonghwa and Hongjoong waited for someone to answer the door, the shorter male scrolling through his phone out of boredom.

"You always come to these, but you say you’re not a Petal, what the hell?”

San let them in, the meeting being held at his parent's photo studio.

“They’re talented, but I don’t see the reason to chase them down and photograph every waking moment,” Hongjoong shrugged at the older man, “also, where were you this morning? I was waiting for you outside your apartment, but you never came.”

“Oh, I hitched a ride with that Milton dude, that guy who runs White Jasmine? He lives in the same building as I do or at least has a dark room there. He even wears that stupid mask of his when he’s there, he must really want to keep his identity a secret.”

“Are you talking about that Milton ass?”

Hongjoong and Seonghwa were greeted by their youngest friend, Jongho, scrolling through a twitter feed of recent Bloom activities.

“Yeah. Did you see his post about how we need to respect the girls by not posting any wardrobe malfunctions?” Seonghwa plopped on the laps of Mingi, Wooyoung and Yeosang, “he’s fucking insane.”

Wooyoung slapped Seonghwa’s butt before pushing him to the floor, “he acts as if he’s married to Y/N, ‘she’s a treasure who deserves to be photographed with an eye most of your cretins don’t have!’ He called San a piece of shit!”

“This,” Hongjoong gestured around the room, “this is literally why I just listen to the music and save photos of the girls.”

“And by girls,” Yeosang pointed out, “you mean Y/N? Don’t think I didn’t notice your lockscreen is her.”

Hongjoong blushed, patting his phone in his pocket before flipping off his friends.

“Ugh,” Seonghwa groaned at the notifications he got, rolling his eyes, “that bastard just posted again.”

“Put it on the screen!” Jongho bolted into the room, popcorn in hand, “go! Go! Go!”

Hello, this is the White Jasmine fansite master, Milton.

I have noticed there is a certain group of you who objectify the girls of Bloom, mainly Y/N. These eight fellows, don’t think I don’t see that puppy dog following you idiots around, have treated Bloom like meat puppets, fawning over no safety shorts, a glimpse of a bra strap, the excitement of a nip slip.

The latest example is at the most recent

These are not Petals, these are perverts with cameras. I implore you, if you can, avoid photos by the sites Diamond Petal, Unique Thorn, Leaves, or any of those sexist little shits at the Ateez photography studio.

“He fucking doxxed us!” Yeosang yelled at the screen, “that’s illegal!”

I promise to continue to treat Bloom with the utmost respect I can and to make sure those creeps don’t get recognition for being fucking so willing to share inappropriate photos of the girls.

I promise.

-Milton