#I don't HATE the writing of this scene btw but it doesn't necessarily make sense to me

[the-silly-urge]

Hi hope it's ok I'm talking out of tags- FIRST OF ALL banger art and I agree with what you're saying 100%. I think you're right.

(Fair warning I'm gonna talk ab some datamined stuff if you don't want to hear ab that)

What fucks me up honestly, is that they either were (or are?) going to make it so that she just. Breaks up with you if you reject Bhaal. Which, granted, I believe she does warn you that she plans to do this, so on that end, it's consistent

But also if there's anything she hates, it's being a puppet to a higher power. When Durge embraces Bhaal, that is exactly what happens. But you don't get to truly explain that to her, share your memories and feelings or whatever. It implies that, specifically if you're the Dark Urge, she doesn't trust in your abilities removed from your Father.

Maybe if she had context that what Bhaal wanted us to do was take over the Elder Brain for him (in which case he wouldn't need to control us), it would make a bit more sense to me, considering she believes there's a possibility for Durge and herself to control it together, but the choice is removed from that too!!!

I think a proper conversation after the inheritance choice would be great, could even have some extra options if Orin had kidnapped Minthara before it. I feel like it needs a tad more nuance than what is currently found in the files though cause. AGH

Don't get me wrong, I understand her having doubts, and the pragmatism of needing all the power the party can get, but she only seems to somewhat oppose things like Shadowheart and Lae'zel opposing their goddesses, she straight up approves of Gale being "free of Mystra". She recognizes these changes as being for the better, in terms of the person rather than the power they gain. But not for her lover? Who has been by her side this whole time?? Who clearly must show prowess in combat outside of the Slayer form, which is like the only thing Bhaal gave them??? Not when they killed Orin???? Not when Bhaal discards them because they had the courage to oppose him????? And it would be easy to share in their thoughts and see why they did this?????? COME ON MAN 😭 She's so ride or die except when you give up on the god controlling you WHICH IS. LITERALLY. WHATEVER. whatever. (seething)

jfc I was writing for so long I'm sorry. I just have So Many Thoughts ab this rn. And I'm normal about it. Obviously

Your life is mine. Accept your inheritance, or I will reclaim it.

I'd rather die.

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you know what i thought was REALLY WEIRD. this has been living rent free in my head ever since my first durge playthrough but. (spoilers ahead) minthara's so on board with you being a slayer and taking bhaal's legacy just because she thinks you should take any power available to you. of course in my playthrough i was like holy shit she would LOVE IT she called me her slayer, we're fucking doing it!!! but as you have that convo with bhaal you come to the slow realization that you'll just be his pawn forever - surely your life is worth more, surely you'd want more than doing some shitty god's bidding forever, father or not...i had a moment where i was like, im sorry minthara but i can't choose this. so i chose to defy him. and of course he kills you, withers shows up blah blah.

but.

we KNOW from minthara's characterization (for example in her ending with karlach) she doesn't want her love to die and she would rather jump headfirst into hell to fight against it. she'll never accept it or understand it. i just refuse to believe that if she knew what the consequences were for going down this path (the ending is quite linear and it's canonically Bad) she'd advise you to take the power.

but that's not really even what i was unsatisfied with - let's just say regardless of reasoning it all does happen the way it happened in my playthrough - there's no scene where she (or any other companion you're romancing as durge for that matter from what i've read online) actually reacts to the fact that you DIED. if withers wasnt a bro you'd be permadead. okay, no cutscene? maybe we can have some durge romance specific dialogue...? nope.

anyways larian PLEASE i know she'd be devastated i just want to hear her say no power is worth losing you /sob