#I do agree they don't do a great job at convincingly showing him as this amazing coach
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lunar-years ยท 2 years ago
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Re: that ask about Jamie being a team player under Pep and your answer - it's actually not that new, referencing Pep, which is the weird part. The team notes from season 1, the stuff the writers gave Arlo White to make his "cheat sheets" for the season 1 finale match where Jamie makes that extra pass? They list Pep as the manager, and Ted and Jamie both mention him in their interviews in the episode as well. So when giving Jamie that extra pass moment, they did it with full concurrent awareness, in writing the season 1 finale, that Pep was Jamie's manager. Creating a fictional manager was never going to happen- Sudeikis is a big Pep fan, and obviously the show's production had to have struck up a good deal with Man City to feature them so much before they had rights to other teams, so they tend to show the team in a positive light even if they're Richmond's adversary. Anyway my point is, Pep as Jamie's coach isn't retrofitted or retroactive, rather, they knew Pep was Jamie's coach even when they had Jamie make that extra pass. So it IS a weird hole they've dug, because they're never going to claim Ted is a better coach than Pep (not only tactic wise but personally/how he treats players, he is beloved) but the implications of that about Jamie's career are very weird in that regard! But they've known it all along, and I can't imagine they don't consider the impact of it on Jamie given the way Sudeikis has talked about Pep before and also given how much backstory they've been said to have imagined, like how much Sudeikis apparently thinks about what informs all these characters. Theyve painted themselves into a corner where the text of the show confirms that Pep informs Jamie massively. Which I personally enjoy, but does detract from Ted's alleged influence on Jamie which I frankly have never massively cared about anyway. I much prefer Pep ๐Ÿ˜‚. I do think they absolutely know Jamie was a small fish in a big pond at City and things changed for him at Richmond - he was top dog for the first time ever there, is what I think they were going for. But maybe we will learn more when they play City away.
Okay I know this was so not the point of your ask so sorry for the pivot lol but how on earth did the show convince the irl West Ham to agree to having their club portrayed on the show as the evil Rupert Mannion run Star Wars Death Star club ??? how do the West Ham fans feel about this? lmao.
To address your actual ask I just feel like they included Pep without thinking it through, because the narratives of what they're trying to do with Ted and what can be reasonably inferred about Jamie's backstory with Man City just are not adding up for me, lol. Definitely agree they're not going for "Ted is better than actual irl coaches," but they're certainly trying to portray that Ted was the exact right person for this particular group of guys at the particular time he landed in their lives. I do think they want us to believe there's something special about Ted that cultivated the team's success in a way other coaches couldn't have done in those particular circumstances of what Richmond was at that time. (And yeah it doesn't necessarily make much sense, but I just suspend my belief on that bit, because what about a goofy Kansas man with no prior knowledge of football and seemingly little desire to dig into it further leading a professional football team to victory does? )
wait edited to add: I also think you're 100% right about Jamie being a small fish in a big pond at City and things changing for him at Richmond in that it was the first time he was really in the position of being the best. Definitely!!! And that is such a good point. There were really excellent tags on a reblog of that last ask that were basically paralleling Jamie to Nate in that it's how you treat people who are powerless when you're in a position above them (whether that be actual authority or, like Jamie, just being the best player on the team) that is most telling.
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punkscowardschampions ยท 4 years ago
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Mia & Jimmy & Janis
Mia: [Computer Science project that you have to make a company/logo/business cards/spreadsheets/website/everythang you could think of so it takes a full term or whatever and you have to work with each other in every lesson] Mia: Right, I think we should do a law firm for our business Mia: because my dad is so we can actually use examples to make all our products legit Jimmy: what, like no win, no fee? ๐Ÿ‘ can do a funny ad piss easy Mia: That is NOT the kind of lawyer my dad is Mia: funny isn't gonna get us good grades either Jimmy: ๐Ÿ’” Dunno who I'm gonna get to chase my ๐Ÿš‘ now Janis: I'm with Chuckles Janis: you're just trying to make this project most beneficial to you Janis: I don't wanna be a vulture when I grow up Janis: go generic as possible or it ain't fair Jimmy: don't reckon your dad needs the free promo any road, rich girl Jimmy: unless this is a cry for help that he can't get the prey Jimmy: ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๐ŸŽป Mia: Obviously I want to make it beneficial, I CARE about my grades and future Mia: but I'd love to hear your suggestions I'm sure Jimmy: you after a ๐Ÿ† or just a ๐Ÿ‘ for trying to get an A? Mia: I get As, new boy, I don't just try Jimmy: I get it, you want ๐Ÿคค๐Ÿ˜ Jimmy: there Mia: Don't be so disgusting Mia: If you two are going to try and sabotage my grade, I WILL make my dad make Sir let me move Mia: I'm not being dragged down Jimmy: crack on, we've worked out your dad ain't busy with accidents at work Janis: Like, please try and use all daddy's clout to get that stubborn prick to do anything he's deciding he's not gonna do Janis: I already said I'd do this shit alone and no ๐ŸŽฒ Jimmy: don't sound like him that Jimmy: go on, rich girl, love to witness another failed flex Janis: You reckon we'd get extra points for fluffing our business expenses like your dad or what? Janis: I'll go along with it if we can convincingly hide our fake funds in a tax haven and make ourselves look LEGIT ๐Ÿ‘Œ Jimmy: Me an' all Mia: You know as little about my dad as you do about your own, Janis Mia: you wish he was as crooked too but he's on the right side of the law so Janis: above the law Janis: can't do no wrong in your eyes, so I've heard Janis: but doubt new boy finds your family drama any more interesting than I do Janis: be a fucking law firm if you like, let's just split the jobs up equally and we don't have to talk until it's time to piece it all together Jimmy: I'll have the ad and the logo, tah very much Janis: you mean the fun bits Jimmy: I mean the ๐ŸŽจ bits Jimmy: rich girl wants her A Janis: obliging Janis: I'll make the website and business cards, I've done it before Janis: Mia, do the data input, yeah Janis: star in Tarantino's ad, you'll love that Mia: No, no Mia: I don't feel comfortable leaving you completely to your own devices Mia: that's not a totally terrible split of the workload but I intend to oversee every step of the process Mia: we have to do a writeup at the end, you know Jimmy: it's almost like the other lass ain't as thick as you'd feel comfortable her being, funny that Mia: I literally want to do well and as far as I know, I'm the only one here who consistently gets good grades Mia: so hostile Mia: I agree that's how we should split the work but I'm not going to just assume you'll both do it well, we can all have input in every part Jimmy: could LITERALLY fill a book the size of sir's big head with all the shit you don't know about what I do well Jimmy: but alright Jimmy: watch me, if you don't get enough of it already, better uniform at work though, don't you reckon? Mia: Oh my God, brag much? Mia: hit the nail on the head with big head ๐Ÿ™„ Jimmy: stalk much? ๐Ÿ™„ Jimmy: least your dad could take my case Mia: It's HER sister that likes you, not ME Mia: get a grip and take it up with her if you're not feeling it Jimmy: I'll still give your dad a bell, chuck him that ๐Ÿฆด as he's struggling Mia: As I said, he doesn't DO no win no fee, so you couldn't afford him Jimmy: ๐Ÿ’”๐ŸŽป Janis: Now we've established it's justice only for those that can afford it Janis: and rich girls can do whatever they want Janis: what are we doing first, oh mighty project manager Jimmy: I'll do the logo in blue, sounds about right, that Janis: #bluelivesmatter is already taken for a tagline but I'll get to thinking Jimmy: ๐Ÿ‘ Jimmy: I'll have a think if I wanna use gold for her ๐Ÿ‘‘ or silver for the ๐Ÿฅ„ Janis: ๐Ÿฅ„ might imply a problem with amphetamines and obviously, you want everyone to know you WORKED for that ๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿฆด all by yourself, you know Mia: You'd know all about that, wouldn't you Mia: taking over the family business, yeah? Jimmy: Oi, it ain't that grim up north Mia: Grim is right Jimmy: Gutted Rosso didn't make you feel like the WAG you deserve on your last visit babes ๐Ÿคž next time you'll spot them celebs Jimmy: or you'll keep to Bijou, that glam dress code would never do you dirty Jimmy: ๐Ÿ’• Janis: I get it Janis: you want me to make sure you're infertile Janis: all those cheat days and binges got you feeling unsure, no problem, just ask Jimmy: lend her the ๐Ÿฅ„ Mia: You are both SUCH freaks Mia: what does any of that even mean Jimmy: bit rude Jimmy: only a freak on the weekend, me Mia: NOT interested, new boy Mia: I HAVE a boyfriend who's a lot hotter than you, right Janis? Jimmy: makes two of us, rich girl Janis: For someone who thinks my bloodline is filth, you LOVE being surrounded by 'em, yeah Janis: bit weird but everyone likes their bit of rough Janis: how disadvantaged is your dad's newest mistress, I mean secretary? Janis: SO charitable ๐Ÿ’™ Jimmy: might be northern, sounds like they've been there loads Mia: Are you gay, new boy? Mia: I'll have to let down Gracie for you Jimmy: only for sir Jimmy: he's well fit Jimmy: crack on with letting your bestie down though and if my mum's the one with your dad, tell her she left the oven on but I sorted it Mia: ??? Mia: What EVEN Mia: you're cracked Jimmy: brb gotta go dry my eyes Jimmy: ๐Ÿฃ๐Ÿ’• Jimmy: I do feel #seen tah for that, hun Mia: I can't even Mia: fine, you two come up with our company branding Mia: I'm going to write out all the info to put on our website when it's done Jimmy: Oi, bad blood, you wanna be the star of my ad or what? Janis: no Jimmy: alright, I'll ask sir Janis: good taste Janis: rinse her dad in a fight Jimmy: tah for the meet cute opportunity Jimmy: when he's her dad's new mr I wanna ๐ŸŽฅ๐Ÿ“ธ the wedding Janis: awh, full โšช Janis: she'll look adorable in her flower girl dress Jimmy: ๐Ÿคž Gracie catches the ๐Ÿ’ Jimmy: she is on a lad hunt Janis: ๐Ÿคž Mia's da has a brother Mia don't also want to fuck Jimmy: don't leave us in suspense ๐Ÿ‘‘ does he or what? Mia: Shut the fuck up or I'll show all this to Sir Jimmy: Go on Jimmy: he'll think I'm ๐Ÿ˜Ž and I'll be well in Janis: Do it, little miss perfect Janis: the part where you shit on my dead dad's grave will be well more shocking when I open the floodgates ๐Ÿ˜ญ Jimmy: โฒ Janis: ... Jimmy: ........ Janis: guess Sir won't wanna pet you no more when he finds out a. you're a cunt b. new boy is interested in your position Jimmy: he'll do til I can get Mr Lucas Jimmy: you can have him back then Janis: LOVE a happy ending Jimmy: I'll look top in my ๐Ÿ‘ฐ Janis: gutted about the lack of uniform though, yeah Mia? Jimmy: What do you make your boyfriend wear? ๐Ÿฆบ? Mia: New boy, don't even go there 'cos he could beat you down so easy if I asked him to Janis: that means she pisses on him so they know he's hers Jimmy: makes sense that'd be your kink Janis: dog eat dog world, right babes Janis: stories you was raised on come straight out of your dad's man's man motivational speaker bullshit Jimmy: Oh shit, are you my half sister, rich girl? Jimmy: brb gotta pack my shit so I'm ready to move in Janis: get a princess dress to go with that ๐Ÿ‘ฐ Jimmy: order my ๐Ÿ‘‘ in XXL tah Janis: can share with your sister Janis: big happy family vibes xoxo Jimmy: ๐Ÿค— Janis: get in here sis Janis: finally not a lonely child Mia: Yeah, I SO want 1000s of siblings like you Jimmy: You're alright, I've only got the one brother and the one sister Jimmy: be piss easy to fit us in your palace Mia: You AREN'T invited Mia: might steal the silverware ๐Ÿฅ„๐Ÿด Jimmy: I'll leave you a ๐Ÿฅ„ to stick down your throat after dinner Jimmy: got some manners, me Mia: That's lovely, isn't it Mia: eating disorders are really serious, you shouldn't make some jokes Janis: respect the ๐ŸŽจ Jimmy: cleaning the ๐Ÿšฝ after you lot is an' all Jimmy: part of the job description btw, I get that you'd have to have one to know what that means but Janis: ๐Ÿ˜ Janis: staff know all your dirty little secrets, babes Janis: better than a tip, like Jimmy: be ๐Ÿ‘ปโšฐ๐Ÿ’€ before I get a tip off her Janis: if we were all walking 'round looking as SICK as her, what would be the point of corroding away her esophagus and not-so pearly whites? Janis: gotta find your own tricks, boy Jimmy: I'll put a โ„๏ธ in the logo for you, babes Janis: cannot escape those coke vibes omg Janis: you're a PR nightmare Jimmy: ๐Ÿ˜ฑ๐Ÿ˜ฑ๐Ÿ˜ฑ Jimmy: #whitelivesandwhitelines Janis: GREAT slogan Janis: basically done over here and you're just texting ๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ’ฉ Janis: tsk tsk, Mimi Jimmy: tick tock or tik tok if you'd rather Jimmy: ๐Ÿ˜˜ Janis: ๐Ÿ˜‚ Janis: make us a law tiktok, hun Jimmy: starring your dad, OBVS Janis: share that ๐Ÿคค๐Ÿคค๐Ÿคค with the world, not just the local 18-35s Jimmy: ๐Ÿ’ฐ on him being a ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ dancer Janis: all middle-aged white men are Jimmy: DUH Janis: POV- you're my client, I'm overcharging you Jimmy: ๐Ÿคค๐Ÿคค๐Ÿคค๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜ Mia: You're obsessed with me, I get it ๐Ÿ™„ Jimmy: busted Janis: If that's a crime Janis: get to spend more time with your dad than you do Janis: ๐Ÿ’˜ Jimmy: SO romantic Jimmy: ๐Ÿ‘จ๐Ÿ’• Janis: can't wait 'til he wants a couple grams Jimmy: refill the silver ๐Ÿง‚ Janis: you know it Janis: sugarbowl never tasted so sweet Jimmy: ๐Ÿ˜‹ Janis: careful Janis: her boyfriend WILL fuck you up Jimmy: I get it, he's obsessed with me Janis: can't blame him Mia: OMG Mia: that is soooo fucked Mia: know your family doesn't see blood relation as an issue but he'll ๐Ÿคข when I show him this Jimmy: if he's that bothered, he can come find me Jimmy: you've had my shifts memorised since I started Mia: You wish Jimmy: to give him a smack, yeah Jimmy: why not? Jimmy: sounds like a right knobhead Mia: [sends a picture of Pablo like he's a prize bull or some shit gross Mia] Mia: you reckon, do you? ๐Ÿ˜‚ Jimmy: I reckon he looks like a right knobhead an' all now, since you asked Mia: You've got a deathwish like Mia: wow Janis: kindred spirits Jimmy: 'cause you reckon he looks like a knobhead an' all? that's just sense Janis: was talking about her eating disorder which is VERY serious and we MUST NOT joke about Janis: but yeah, the fuckboy radiating from that selfie must be the appeal Jimmy: Soz mate Mia: She doesn't DO boys, I'd save your breath Jimmy: weren't breathing down her neck, that's you Jimmy: I get why now though, it's a blatant crush Janis: Stalking's your kink, right babes? Janis: Or am I just that special Jimmy: [draws these gals as snowflakes holding hands but Mia is melting] Janis: That's good Janis: but horrific Jimmy: #allherkinks Jimmy: [doodles on the picture of Pablo that she sent in hilarious ways] Janis: ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ Janis: Send him that, whilst you're at it, Mimi Janis: really get him 'roiding out Mia: ๐Ÿ–•๐Ÿ–•๐Ÿ–• Mia: you're both jealous, both for weird freaky reasons Jimmy: Of what? Go on Mia: You're jealous because you think every girl here wants to ride you and I DON'T Mia: because my boyfriend is better looking and fitter than you ๐Ÿ’ Mia: and she's jealous either because she wants me or she wants her own brother Mia: either way ๐Ÿ˜ท๐Ÿ˜ท๐Ÿ˜ท๐Ÿ˜ท Jimmy: if every girl round here wanted to crack onto me why would I give a shit if you do or don't? Jimmy: all your mates are fitter than you and they ain't close to this paddy school's top tier Jimmy: and you just said she don't do lads so why would she wanna have a go on her brother unless the steroids have fucked him up harder than advertised Mia: yeah ๐Ÿ‘Œ narcissist Mia: neg me, that'll totally make me interested Jimmy: ๐Ÿคž it'll keep you well clear Jimmy: that'll do Mia: I want to be working with you as much as you do me, I've said Mia: leave me alone and this can be as painless as possible Jimmy: I get that you're fuming your boyfriend is growing bigger tits than you but that ain't my problem, my dear Mia: So immature Jimmy: still got a deeper voice than him Janis: imagine defending your man this hard when he fully cheats on you Janis: ๐Ÿ’” Janis: daddy all over again, am I right? Jimmy: ๐ŸŽป๐Ÿ˜ญ๐ŸŽป Jimmy: Dunno what I'm more flattered by, that you reckon I'm gay after seeing the state of all the straight lads round here or not wanting to ride me 'cause I ain't a cheating dickhead with massive tits or in your dad's case a hair transplant Jimmy: either way, tah Janis: could donate some to the cause, new boy Janis: hair, not tits Jimmy: you could an' all Jimmy: cause a scandal Janis: #cancelling bitches is a solid hobby Jimmy: there you go Janis: can't lose my only beauty though Janis: ๐ŸŽป๐ŸŽป Janis: have to keep being #problematic yourself babes, so soz Jimmy: ๐Ÿ‘ Mia: Stop nerd flirting Mia: send me what work you've done today Jimmy: Hang on, I'll ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿšฌ Jimmy: ๐Ÿ’• Mia: Gross Jimmy: What, I'm only fit and mysterious if I starve myself to ๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ’€? Alright Jimmy: [sends her the work like oh I must be a nerd then] Mia: Thank you Mia: I'll go over this and give feedback later Jimmy: Gross Mia: ๐Ÿ™„ Mia: I've got to do a speech in Politics and Society after this, so I need to prepare Jimmy: ๐Ÿ™„ Janis: ๐Ÿ‘‹ Janis: pleasure as always Jimmy: bit rude if you two get to nerd flirt Janis: what's 'fuck off' in Arabic? Jimmy: ุชุฎู„ุต ู…ู† Jimmy: probably means ILY or some bollocks 'cause I google translated it Janis: beautiful Janis: love double-meaning Janis: Quรฉ te folle un pez espada, new boy Jimmy: ? Janis: I hope you get fucked by a swordfish ๐Ÿ’˜ Jimmy: [draws their teacher, Mr Lucas, Pablo and Mia's dad all as swordfish so she can vote for who she ships him with] Jimmy: โœ” or โŒ Janis: [โŒ out Pablo's eyes and Mr Lucas' junk like no] Jimmy: [IRL ๐Ÿ˜] Janis: [does very unflattering drawing of Mia all up on her father] Jimmy: ๐Ÿฅ‡ Janis: not an A though, is it Jimmy: [makes it even more unflattering somehow like now it is and now it's also teamwork so even better] Janis: ๐Ÿ˜ Jimmy: LOVE a #collab Janis: been waiting for a group project to come along Jimmy: rigged it to work with ๐Ÿ‘‘๐Ÿ’€ obvs Janis: duh Jimmy: SO obsessed, her dad will get me off though, he can TOTALLY relate Janis: should but it in our ad Jimmy: ๐Ÿ”ช๐Ÿ”ช๐Ÿ”ช๐Ÿšฟ Janis: ๐Ÿ˜ฑ๐Ÿ˜ฑ๐Ÿ˜ฑ Jimmy: ๐Ÿ’˜ Janis: Sir will kill that role Jimmy: Literally Janis: ha ha ๐Ÿ™„ Jimmy: Chuckles is right ๐Ÿคก Janis: keep 'em coming Janis: ๐Ÿ‘‘๐Ÿ’€ might have an aneurism Jimmy: ๐Ÿคž might get an A if she dies Janis: it's what she would've wanted Jimmy: you do love a happy ending Janis: who don't Janis: be my tragic family's fault, no doubt Jimmy: so I've heard Janis: not gonna apologize, new boy Jimmy: weren't waiting for one Janis: ๐Ÿ‘ Jimmy: ๐Ÿ‘Œ Janis: please stop nerd flirting with me Jimmy: you started it Jimmy: calm YOURSELF down, mate Janis: did I fuck Jimmy: neg me, that'll totally make me interested Janis: [IRL ๐Ÿ˜] Jimmy: [sends her a pisstake version of the logo to fully drag Mia] Janis: is it RGB #374E88 though Jimmy: what? Janis: it's called tory blue Jimmy: is it? Jimmy: [does a colour corrected version immediately] Janis: Better Janis: solid ๐Ÿฅ‡ Jimmy: Tah Janis: [the pisstake business card with the logo for her dad] Janis: we've absolutely SMASHED it Jimmy: I reckon we can go Jimmy: ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿšฌ Janis: alright Jimmy: [IRL ๐Ÿ˜˜ to sir] Janis: [we're loving this so hard but gotta hide it] Jimmy: [strutting out cos bad bitch global] Janis: [when you wanna go for all the reasons but also the rumour mill would go off immediately so you're like hmm] Janis: [fuck your life amirite babe] Jimmy: [gutted we ever have to end this convo so same]
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