#I can't paint my entire family with the Evil Ethnicity brush. I just can't.
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pigeons-conversion-sideblog · 8 months ago
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Like I expect this kind of thing from the Hamasniks.
It hurts way more when it's coming from someone who explained why the exact thing they're doing is wrong three posts ago.
I've been seeing a nonzero amount of Jews saying...really sickeningly hibernophobic things in response to Irish individuals being viciously antisemitic.
I've posted about this on my main blog, but it's getting really tiring. Now isn't the time, the potato famine wasn't that bad, the IRA is exactly the same as Hamas, Irish Catholics and Palestinians are the same so Irish Catholics are Scandinavian settler colonists somehow???
It's really making me scared and upset to see people being willing to use collective judgment on Irish people as a whole, to rewrite history to demonize us, to rescind all their viewpoints on how to be decent to marginalized ethnicities as long the ethnicity is Irish Catholic, who rightly point out how fucked up it is that people make exceptions for Jews having human rights...
...and then turn around and make those exact exceptions for Irish people.
This isn't something that needs to be dragged out on posts with people using Irish tragedies to illustrate leftist hipocrisy against Jews, although I do think that rhetorical method is itself hypocritical and it bothers me that anyone anywhere is EVER willing to make exceptions to their principles for ANY ethnicity that exists.
I think that's wrong.
I don't want to take away from anyone's pain. We don't disagree overall. We really don't. I'm infuriated by the "uwu ireland standa with palestine uwu" nonsense too!
I just...I really really hate that the answer seems to be "so we take everything we've been begging people not to do to us and we do it to those filthy micks instead" for an alarming number of people.
I say this here because I think the hamasniks fetishizing Irish history cannot be reached at this point. They need to be fully, formally deradicalized. I'm saying this here because I trust you guys to take me in good faith and actually be open to thinking it through.
I'd like to read some works by Irish Jews, if anyone has any recommendations. I really hope it doesn't need to be said that I would prefer if those works did not also demonize Irish Catholics while uplifting Irish Jews.
#reblogging myself#this is a thing that is probably my biggest concern re converting#I can't paint my entire family with the Evil Ethnicity brush. I just can't.#my dad—who I've talked about here—is Irish Catholic#am I gonna have to deal eith people#*with people telling me it's okay because he's one of the good ones?#with people scoffing at this because he's white?#with people expecting me to treat my ancestors as evil?#and I know no reasonable person would!#I know this!#but tumblr...you gotta stop looking for the one group it's okay to hurt. please please please I'm begging us to just stop hurting each othe#to be clear my concern isn't that to be a jew I will be expected to also be hibernophobic#my concern is that I won't be able to deal with jackasses who are extremely online being jerks about it and I know they exist#They're jackasses who should be ignored but they exist and I'm sensitive about this and bad at ignoring it#and I don't want to turn into someone angry and aggressive and mean#idk i'm rambling here I just#six times in a week I saw someone who otherwise has great takes being really shitty about this#and I'm still shaky from that experience l#and I don't know what to do about it other than try to build a bridge so.#*clarification part 2: 6 times in a week I saw MULTIPLE different someones do this#if it were just one asshole I could ignore it and move on#but when it's half a dozen separate people and you continue seeing one or two every few weeks...it's an issue that needs to be addressed#not to the point of derailing posts about antisemitism I want to be extremely firm and clear on that front#I'm appalled at the shortsighted cruelty of the ~Ireland stands with Palestine and by Palestine we mean Hamas~ attitude#I'm appalled this seems to be the majority opinion#none of this makes it acceptable or excusable when antisemites invoke Ireland to justify their antisemitism#none of this frustration is intended to take away from much more urgent and immediate trauma#and that's why I'm yelling in the tags#really my problem is just that I highly value consistency in matters of justice and ethics#and I get frustrated when exceptions are made by anyone for any reason
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