#Hobie wouldnt wanna keep him in the dark its just that he Knows this grief and knows that Gwen shouldn't tell him the worst day of his life-

[brown-spider]

I didn’t even think about that part with Pav! That’s so fucked. You know now I’m wondering how he would’ve felt knowing that his friends were gonna also let that shit happen! Like “Gwen, you were really just gonna let that happen to me??” She has no defense because we literally watched her not only do just that, but try to prevent Miles from disrupting it.

yeah. I think Miguel has an order to either take dream weaver out, or to capture them. But dream weaver is pretty good at out maneuvering them.

Sunny being kicked out would get a compliment from them if anything. Like “nice job.”

I'm imagining a scenario where everything is the same except Gwen stopped Miles. Like, how that conversation would go. She probably didn't think she would ever be THERE when another spiderperson's canon event happened, she's probably completely unprepared to deal with it.

Pav would react to the event the way you'd expect, of course. Crushed. I think if Gwen was right there, she'd want to comfort him afterwards somehow, especially now that she played an active part in making sure it happened. Maybe she timidly approaches him in the immediate aftermath, says something like, "listen, I know it hurts now, but it was supposed to happen." Because she knows a lot of spiders take comfort in the idea that there was nothing they could do, that the tragedy makes them Stronger.

"Gwen." Hobie warns.

But its too late, cuz Pav is looking at her and asking "What do you MEAN it was 'supposed' to happen?"

And Miles is looking at her too, wondering the same damn thing.

I would like to see that conversation play out.