#Harry's sexuality

[twopoppies]

Wonderful to see Harris Reed including Harry in their instagram pride post https://www.instagram.com/p/C7uF1J0I5l_/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

I love Harris. He's a special sweetheart.

[daisiesonafield-blog]

Hi Daisie, sorry if this is hard to understand as English isn't my first language. This is just theorizing and I'm not saying it will happen. If Harry ever decided he wanted to stop having beards and doing the stunts and to just live his life as a gay man but without making an announcement about it, like a glass closet basically... and I know some say he is in one but I disagree because he still has beards. If he wanted that for himself... to be 'out' but without announcing it, whether that is being seen in public with Louis or with another man if they're not together anymore, possibly referring to a boyfriend in interviews or music, or even just being publicly single and keeping his private life private but wanting people to know he is part of the lgbtq+ community.... how would any of that be possible when fans, tabloids, gossip pages like deuxmoi are constantly making up lies about him? Sorry if that's confusing. A glass closet basically. But that seems impossible for him because if he is publicly single then the tabloids and deuxmoi constantly make up lies about him hooking up with every single woman, even if he's never seen with them. Is it possible for any change now?

Hi dear,

Regarding your question about whether it would be possible for Harry to live as a gay man without making a public announcement, it is technically possible. He is already sort of doing that. We've seen him express his queerness more and more over the years. And he's said he wants to keep his private life private and that he has shared his sexual orientation and relationship status with his close friends and family. He's also said he doesn't feel the need to share that publicly at this time. And that's what he's comfortable and happy with right now.

As for the gossip and rumors, that just comes with being a celebrity. It will never stop because it is a caveat of being in the public eye. But also, the rumors ultimately don't matter. They may be annoying, but Harry himself has said he's chosen to ignore those types of things so that they don't impact him or his mental health negatively.

All he can control is himself, not the stuff that happens around him, and from what he's said over the years I think he's made peace with that aspect of fame. So if he gets papped laughing with someone and the gossip circle spreads the rumor that the person is his newest girlfriend, then so be it. He knows who the person is, and the tabloids ultimately don't matter to his every day life and his true self.

But in regards to him mentioning a boyfriend or being seen with a boyfriend in a manner that makes it clear they're dating - that in and of itself would be him coming out, even without a statement, and the media would go absolutely nuts regardless of him speaking on it or not. Again, that's the nature of being a celebrity, and specifically Harry Styles. The biggest aspects of his image are his dating life and sexuality speculations, so there is no way to keep something as monumental as that quiet. It would turn into a huge media news cycle, everywhere. With the general public and in all levels of fandom.

So really, there's a fine line between his queer expression right now and a more outwardly expression of it like you described. Right now his actions can still be straight-washed. Hets can still ignore the gay pride, gay sex innuendo and queerness. But even then, it's becoming harder to. Now there's 2 sides to it: one in which his gay pride gets erased, and one in which he's condemned for the gay agenda he's spreading with his rainbows. It's an amazing exercise in willful ignorance.

Of course, him being a queer man has been slowly more accepted tho. Even 2-3 years ago we would get laughed at for thinking he's queer. Or before that, called homophobic names for suggesting THE Harry Styles would *ever* touch a pride flag. So things have changed. The conversation regarding Harry has become more open to his queer expression, even in the gp. So that is progress. Even if the tabloids continue to run with made up hookup stories.

In terms of beards, I don't think he'll be able to entirely stop that unless he's getting ready to make a public statement about his personal life. But, in my opinion, it doesn't sound like it's something he wants right now. It's obvious he enjoys his privacy, and wants parts of his life to remain private. And that includes his sexuality and his partner. This is what's safest and best for him at the moment. For *many* reasons.

We can't forget the current world we are living in. While it may seem accepting of the queer community compared to 5, 10, 20 years ago, we are seeing our rights stripped away every day. No joke, every day. Rights that we fought years to have. Just taken. In 2023. Homophobia and transphobia are being normalized again. Homophobic and transphobic legislations being accepted in all levels of government. In the US, gay marriage is at risk, just 8 years after it was legalized in all states. And while the entertainment industry may look like they celebrate the LGBTQ+ community, it is still a cruelly homophobic institution that will crush a queer person, even if they are at the top right now.

This post is highly relevant.

Ok, this turned out to be super rambly. Hopefully I addressed what you were thinking about.

[savebylou]

Article below. Read it if you can.

The discourse surrounding Harry Styles is many things, but one thing it literally ALWAYS is is exhausting. Harry Styles has reached the calibre of celebrity and fandom that whatever move he makes, how he chooses to do his hair, what he chooses to wear all spark conversation and debate. It feels like for years now the odiously boring conversation on whether Harry Styles has been “queerbaiting” or not is a never ending pollution across social media and the more yawn inducing side of Reddit – but now, it’s pivoted in a new direction thanks to how Harry Styles looked when he went to watch a footie game the other day, with people saying he’s now “straight again”. O-kay.

Just a very bizarre opinion to be fronted with, in my opinion. And even more bizarre to see it’s currently sitting on 138,000 likes – which either means that many people genuinely believe such trite nonsense or they think it’s funny. It’s got to a boring area of the discourse where it doesn’t matter if Harry Styles rocks up in the pretty bog standard, neutral outfit he did or wears a feather boa as per his Love On Tour era – he’d be spoken about with the word queerbaiting not fair behind.

I think where this gets really problematic is that it’s sort of all centred on the nonsensical. If Harry Styles is bi, gay, queer – any of those things being entirely his business to keep to himself or share when he wants – then why would he suddenly not be if he wears a muted colour, goes the footie or cuts his hair shorter? I feel like the fact I’m even having to voice this makes me feel like I’ve fell down a time slip to 2010 or something. And what I find even more baffling is that the outfit in question is a shirt and sweater vest, big 70s vibes – isn’t that how Harry’s been dressing for … years? So we’re saying all this Harry Styles ‘is straight again’ because he’s cropped his hair short? Do me a favour.

Was particularly riled at this one, which suggests the reason that Harry Styles isn’t walking into a footie match with a feather boa on and some pink palazzo trousers is because Love On Tour has ended and so has the album cycle – therefore he has not interest in… Your guess is as good as mine. No interest in being gay, of which he more than likely isn’t anyway? No interest in appealing to gays? Why are we pretending that over half of every stadium on Love On Tour wasn’t filled with heterosexual women?

It’s all just very weird, to be honest with you. I am writing this as a gay man, and whether Harry Styles is presenting himself in whatever way he’s seen fit I have never once felt “queerbaited”. I have not spent the last few years of my life thinking Harry Styles was LGBTQ+ – just that he was a massive ally and someone who wasn’t afraid to be a bit flamboyant from time to time. Even if he was gay or bi or whatever it would make a grand total of zero difference to my life or to my enjoyment of his music.

If your first thought when you see a pop star with shorter hair at a footie game is “oh, Harry Styles is straight again” – you need an urgent life.

Link to article.

[awesomefringey]

I’m a larrie but why do we think Harry and Louis are gay as opposed to other queer labels? I personally try to not assume about either Harry or Louis since it’s not my business if they don’t wanna say but have *they* given any signals?

Hi nonnie, I don't think there's a WE implied when I share my opinion about it. As well as there shouldn't be a WE in yours.

I get the urge to look for alignments in fandoms, and I'd loved if we could agree on things indefinitely. But it must be absolutely fair to everyone to form an opinion (or not care to have one) for themselves.

Let's just not fight over it. Anyone's guess is as good as mine.

I think it's in reference to this and this.

[getawayheaven]

https://www.tumblr.com/getawayheaven/719654987084464128/why-do-you-talk-about-louis-using-blue-and-green?source=share

If there's possibility that Larry is not real anymore and they are still using Larry signs for signalling to connect with fans on a personal level then doesn't that mean that they both are Larry baiting so that fans will stay ??

That's the problem anon. Who decided that some specific things are Larry signs? Just because fans belive that blue and green are Larry colours should harry and louis just ban these colours from their life and career forever? M 100% sure niall is aware too about these "Larry" colours does that mean he was signalling about Larry in his recent photoshoot where he was carrying blue and green balloons? No. Not at all.

I am not against signalling and coding. I know that celebrities use these things to hint about their sexuality and relationship all the time and harry and louis have been doing this for years now. They used it heavily during one direction. But time change, people change, personalities change, priorities change and nothing is same anymore.

Currently they could be together or they could be not. Who knows. But one thing is for sure they don't want their fans to keep linking them with each other. Their priorities have entirely changed and they want everyone to know them by their solo work not by their relationship. Their current priority is getting as successful as they can get no matter what it takes. But that doesn't mean they don't want people to recognize them for who they really are.

Who would have thought that harry would sit down for an official Rolling Stone interview with leech just to let everyone know that he has the right to go on dates without having to explain constant hate for his girlfriends on internet. But at that time his top priority was to make DWD a huge success. But keep in mind that this is the same harry who almost teared up on stage on the very next day of RS interview and said "It's difficult to sing Matilda in a rainbow suit" because ALL his fans were accusing him of queerbaiting. He knew what he was saying and he knew his fans would understand.

Both louis and harry would be ok if people won't recognize them because of their relationship or their sexuality but they won't be ok if they would be categorized as flop artist who can't sell shows. According to me coming out is not in their cards for at least next ten years. But that does not mean they don't feel happy and satisfied when their fans love the real harry and Louis for who they really are and not for who they are pretending to be. That does not mean they don't feel immensely loved when they use signs related to Larry and they know that these fans know their real identity and still they are loved. So no they are not Larry baiting even if Larry is not real anymore. They are just continuing to set a connection with fans in a way they invented years ago but the context of these signs and connection have changed with the change in time and with change in their life and people need to understand that.

[surrowndedbylights]

It always bothers me when antis say things such as "larries are disrespectful because we should not assume anyone's sexuality." Like- we don't even do that. No one ever says Harry and Louis are definitely gay/bi etc. We only see the signaling and queer coding and speculate about their queerness. But it IS an assumption when you claim they are straight without them verbally confirming it. Why is it fine to assume someone's heterosexuality but not queerness? Why are we problematic for seeing whatever they themselves show us? Sorry for the rambling but it drives me mad how heteronormative and homophobic these people are.

[tomwambsgays]

"harry, i'll spare you another *20 hour mind-project*"

[rynli]

shut up we’re so fuckin hetero-sexual

[hereforh]

thank you!!! I try to tell her this daily but she doesn't understand me, we've been friends since we were 6 and I didn't want to let the fandom ruin our friendship, but it's so hard for her to respect me sometimes! I don't know if you saw that video of him reacting to the golf poster, but she sent it to me like 10 times (I wish I was lying) Sometimes I wish I could disappear from this fandom lol

ugh that sucks... maybe you should just tell her "let's agree to disagree" and end this subject for good, you know? let her know that you don't want to talk about that anymore because you don't want it to destroy your friendship, and that she should respect your opinion, even if it's different than hers, because you respect hers. and yeah, I saw that video... I absolutely hate signs like that and I wish he would stop interacting with them. but he seems to think some are fun, so...

it still doesn't say anything about his sexuality, though lol so idk why your friend seems to be counting it as a win.

[guchaigue]

kim inflation art

[twopoppies]

I would like to add a bit to the ‘bi as a stepping stone’ discussion.

We all know how Ricky Martin was sold at the end of 90’s/ early 00’s - his hypersexual videos with tuns of half naked women & occasionally making out with some of them. Idk in how many relationships he was with women (and if they were real or just for a bearding purpose) before he came out but according to wiki, it says:

“In March 2010, Martin publicly came out as gay via a message on his website, stating: "I am proud to say that I am a fortunate homosexual man. I am very blessed to be who I am."In an interview with Vanity Fair, he declared: "There was love, passion. I do not regret anything, any of the relationships I lived, they taught me a lot, both men and women." Martin also told Fama!: "I know that I like both men and women, I'm against sexual labels, we are simply human beings with emotional and sexual needs. I like to enjoy sex in total freedom, so I'm open to having sex with a woman if I feel desire." Despite this, he expressed that he would not be interested in "an ongoing relationship with a woman", stating: "Men are my thing"”

So there it is - he talked about relationships/being in love and sleeping with women but yet he came out as gay, not bi.

So in my theory and based on the fact that I believe H doesn’t want to lie about important things (we all know how he denied Larry when asked about Sweet Creature), if he (and Louis) will want & be able to come out, he will make sure his PR team will work harder than the devil to come out with a bulletproof strategy to come out without using bi as a stepping stone. And also if he’s actually bi (like he’s not), imo he would come out already because he plays both straight and gay anyway so I don’t think it would be such a biggie if you get what I mean. But there’s a reason why he keeps it to himself and so I don’t think (and I really hope) he won’t come out as bi.

I agree with you. I think the idea that he's bisexual has been put out there by his team as a way to "explain" his lyrics/behavior/appearance etc. and keep playing all sides. But I don't think he's actually going to confirm he's bisexual. He's made it quite clear he doesn't think the public needs to know anything about his sexuality. What I would hope for him is the end of the PR relationships and the ability to stop pretending. If he ever wants to confirm or clarify, that's up to him.

I think with Ricky Martin, it's possible he was still discovering himself early on when he had relationships with women, but I don't know. He identifies as a gay man at this point, and he seems very happy. I believe Harry has known for a long time that he's not interested in women (in fact, the only time he's ever directly answered a question about his sexuality was to say he WASN'T bisexual, but everyone seems to ignore that now).

[kappamelone]

playing disco elysium right now and this feels like my experience so far

[aerostaticsurrender]

JEAN VICQUEMARE - "She was incredibly fuckable. A beautiful bourgeois woman. Waifish. Like a *welkin* basically."

CONCEPTUALIZATION - Snow Welkin. Blonde Welkin...

[adh-james-version]

What’s something Barty Crouch jr. and Blaise Zabini have in common?

The fact that when you talk abt their sexuality you say:

“Oh Barty? He’s just Barty.”

“Blaise? Yeah he’s just Blaise.”

[disco-dancing-in-the-desert]

[hereforh]

hey can i do a mini rant? so, i think harry is gay, and i never had a problem thinking that, but my friend has been trying to make me think that it's wrong to think that he only likes men, like i feel it's wrong of her, because only he knows about her orientation, and she is constantly trying to make me feel bad with my thinking and talking about him being bi and that he has more affection for women and such, besides the posters he reacts to. like, it seems like she wants to call me biphobic but I'm bi, not that it removes prejudice but come on... - sorry for the english

I think you should tell your friend that, while harry doesn't specifically tell us what his sexuality is, we're open to guess by what he shows us/signals to us. and what he keeps trying to tell us, repeatedly, is that he's part of the queer community, whether that means he's gay, bi, pan or whatever. you should tell her that, within that context, she's also just guessing. all of us are. we're all entitled to our own opinion - unless that opinion is that harry is straight, because that just doesn't make any sense lmao

hope that helped in some way <3

you're always welcome to rant in my inbox, either in english or portuguese (unfortunately there are the only two options I can offer lol)