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Episode 72 Transcript: Old Man Yaoi

[intro guitar music]

G: Hello, my name is Grey.

C: And my name is Crystal.

G: And this is Busty Asian Beauties, a Supernatural commentary podcast where I, someone who has seen this show several times–

C: And I, someone who only knows the show through social media, discuss every single episode of Supernatural from start to finish. Also, we are both Asian.

G: Both Asian. For today's episode, we will be discussing Season 4, Episode 12: “Criss Angel is a Douchebag,” written by Julie Siege, directed by Robert Singer.

C: Oh, I love women! I know I hated women in 4.07, but thanks, Julie Siege.

G: I love this episode.

C: Yeah.

G: I mean [C laughs], okay, I like it the same way I liked last episode, but like, a little bit better.

C: Yeah. Okay, question. Am I the only one who thought for a second there gonna be old man yaoi in Supernatural? [both laughing]

G: No. These three are literally in a polyamorous, gay relationship. They are.

C: Yeah. There's something fruity going on there. Especially between Jay and Charlie. Like, what is going on?

G: [laughing] It literally is so Hannibal-core. Like, he stabs himself so that the other person will die. And then he says, "He gave me a gift, and I just threw it to his face," which is something Hannibal literally tells Will. [both laughing]

C: Oh my god.

G: That was the whole point-

C: When did Hannibal come out?

G: When did Hannibal come out?

C: 2013 to 2015. They fucking stole this. They stole "Criss Angel is a Douchebag." Brian Fuller, answer to Julie Siege.

G: Yeah. [dramatically] "I gave you a gift, and you didn't want it." That was a direct reference to "Criss Angel is a Douchebag." [C laughs] It's- this episode is good. It's funny. I mean, and also like, Ruby is in it for very little, but I actually have some insights into her character that I want to talk about later, when we start talking about the episode. Like, what she does here is super interesting, and- Oh, let's talk about it later. I don't wanna- you know, we should should give the audience what they want all throughout the episode so they keep on listening. Is that how it works? I don't know. I'm a bad podcaster.

C: Sure, probably.

G: Okay, so before we begin, Crystal, what did you know about “CrissAngel is a Douchebag” before you watched it?

C: Literally nothing except that Ruby would be in it at some point.

G: Really? You didn't know about the Chief.

C: Oh! You told me about the Chief. Sorry. Yes, I knew about the Chief because you told me. I didn't know what episode the Chief was gonna be in.

G: I don't remember anything about this episode. Like, absolutely nothing. I knew that Ruby was gonna come because of the "Then" sequence, but prior to that, I just didn't know. I thought it was just gonna be a case episode with nothing happening. But I remember so vividly the title of this episode, and I remember also so vividly that this is where the Chief comes up, which is like the only two things you need from this episode, I guess.

C: It's true.

G: The "Then" sequence is mostly Ruby and Sam, and like, all those stuff. Like, Sam being like, “Oh, she saved me," but also Sam not like being able to kill demons, and Ruby being like, “You need to tone up” and Sam being like, “I'm not going to do that.” And that's where we end at "Then" sequence. We start with a rather lengthy pre-splash screen thing, where basically, there's a guy in a bar. They are at Sioux City. I looked up. Whether this city in Iowa was like, Magic Central. I don't think it is.

C: I don't know anything about Sioux City.

G: I don't really know how to look it up. Because if I look up "Sioux City, Iowa," like, it doesn't say like, "Oh, it's Magician Central." But if I look up "Sioux City, Iowa, magic," it just shows me all the magicians there, and it's like, "No, no, no, that's not what I'm looking for." Do you know anything about Iowa?

C: I think they're just having a conference. I don't know anything about Iowa.

G: Sad.

C: Besides that it is the title of a song by Dar Williams that everyone should listen to.

G: We start in Iowa, and you know, we see outside, and there's like a bunch of people doing magic tricks on the street. Whoo! And then we go inside the bar, and there is a guy also doing a magic trick in front of the bartender. And he is old. He is doing card tricks, specifically. And there's a guy just off the side who is in your typical magician garb.

C: Yeah. Party City levels.

G: Yeah. Party City magician garb. And he is heckling this guy, basically. Like, the bartender is not even putting on a- I mean Jay. This guy's name is Jay. - He's not even putting on a show. He's just literally showing tricks to the bartender. And this guy, this asshole is like, “Yeah, why don't you show us another one?” And like, at some point, he fumbles the trick, and Vance, the heckler, is like, “Yeah, you loser." You know. He's so fucking annoying. And then at some point, the bartender goes, "Can you just stop doing that? Leave the old man alone."

C: Which definitely helps him feel better.

G: And then Jay, the old man, was like, "Oh, okay. Guess I'm an old man." He even does this thing where, like, he reveals the trick. Like, the card is in the pocket, and he just keeps going, "Check his pocket! Check his pocket!" He's so unbearable.

We go to a theater, and there is also another young magician. His name is Jeb Dexter. And he is practicing some tricks where - I think it's his grand entrance, and there's just a couple of people in the audience, because this is a practice. And also, heavy metal is playing. I don't think this is heavy metal. I think it's just metal music.

C: I don't know genres very well.

G: I also don't. I don't know why I made that call. [both laugh] But it is metal music, so, you know, and the guy Jeb looks... scene?

C: [laughs] Looks what?

G: He looks like a scene kid. He looks like a scene kid, right?

C: Mm. Well, it's shirtless, leather vest... sort of spiky hair, and [both] eyeliner.

G: Yeah. They're making him out to be a bit of an asshole. Because at some point, he's like, "Cut all this! You're supposed to do this, and you're supposed to do this! Why isn't this happening?" And there are three magicians watching him, and these are the old men yaoi of this episode. [C laughs] So to introduce you to them, it's Vernon, it's Jay, and it's Charlie. And I don't really know how to differentiate them. Basically-

C: Jay's like our main guy. Charlie is his bestie who has definitely explored his body. And Vernon's sorta like, not very nice?

G: He's okay. I feel like he entered the throuple. Like, Charlie and Jay were together first, and then they were like, "Yeah, Vernon."

C: Right. And then they saw Vernon across the bar and liked his vibe.

G: Yeah. Yeah, exactly. They're just I'm talking about how this Jeb Dexter guy is kind of an asshole and they're being mean to him because of his like, flashiness. Like, his outfit and his eyeliner. And Charlie is like, [old man voice] “Oh, it used to be about skill-" [both laughing] That's not his voice! [both laughing] Why did I put on that voice?

C: [laughing] Yeah, sure, that's your old man voice. Go for it.

G: He's going, "It used to be about skill." And Jay, who is quite defeated about his career and his life, is like, "God, you guys are pathetic. You're like, bitter and old. We are all bitter and old. We are jokes in this industry. That used to be us, but now it's like, whatever. We're just old. We're dying." And then he just goes, “I'm gonna do the table of death tonight.” And Vernon and Charlie is like, “You almost died when you last did that, don't be crazy.” And Jay is like, “Yeah, who give a shit? I just want to just- If I die, at least I go out with a headline.”

C: Don't do that to your audience, man.

G: Yeah! Like, don't traumatize your audience.

C: Yeah, you're gonna traumatize a good- [laughing] probably five people given that no one goes to your shows. But still!

G: We go to a now smaller theater than what Jay - what's his name? Jeb Dexter - was at earlier. This one is just in a restaurant. And Jay is in a tuxedo. He is all dressed up for the show.

C: With a pink satin shirt under it. Fun look.

G: Yeah, magician wear. And he's saying like, "Oh, ladies and gentlemen-" you know, like your typical magician stuff. He lies down on the table of death, and Charlie starts to lock the cuffs. At some point. Charlie goes, "These are tight. Are you sure you can slip out of them?" They start the scene, and they close the curtains in front of the table. So it's all shadow. You're just seeing all shadow.

C: Yeah, which, I mean, I, personally, just would not believe any of it was real if that was the case.

G: Yeah.

C: Like, they could be playing a projection.

G: That's true.

They start burning the thing that will make the blades fall.

C: Yeah, there's like, ten bloody swords hanging from the ceiling or whatever.

G: Why are the swords already bloody? Or are they just red?

C: I don't know. Yeah, they probably just tinted them with red to make them look more menacing.

G: Yeah. Jay is trying to get out, but I don't think it's happening. This scene is so long. But okay, meanwhile, Vance and this girl he was with earlier who’s his assistant are leaving the bar that they were at. We go back to Jay. He's struggling. It's not happening. And then the swords fall, and Jay, on the table - and the silhouette looks like he has been stabbed to death. Everyone in the room is gasping. After a moment of silence, the curtains open. Jay is there, and people are like, “Oh my god! That's so amazing!” Then we go back to Vance, the heckler from earlier. And now he is dead.

C: Yup. With ten stab wounds.

G: There are ten stab wounds on his torso, but like, no anything on his shirt. Like, no tears or anything. Which is fun!

C: It is fun.

G: And that's when we get our splash screen.

C: We cut to a bit later, and Jeb from earlier is doing card tricks on the street, and he’s saying that he's channeling demon and angel powers or whatever. Meanwhile, Sam and Dean are passing by, and Dean's like, “What a douchebag!” But Sam says, “Hey, that's Jeb Dexter.” And Dean goes, “I don't even want to know how you know that,” and Sam’s like, “He's famous.” Okay. So I mean, okay, we're agreed that Sam has a bit of a celebrity crush on this guy, right? [G laughs] But is it like a “he's an asshole but I sort of find his charm affecting” sort of crush, or is it like a “I want to make him take my cock so bad so that he could shut the fuck up” kind of crush?

G: I don't think he has a crush on this guy.

C: Ow! Okay, fine.

G: Yeah.

C: He just knows about him. Doesn't give a shit?

G: Yeah.

C: Alright. That's okay.

G: Also, do you think it's mean if I say that this guy kind of reminds me of Pete Wentz? [laughs]

C: No, I don't think it's mean.

G: He has that vibe.

C: I don’t know what Pete Wentz looks like.

G: He has a little bit of that vibe. Also, this is a spoiler, but later, Charlie reminds me-

C: Okay, I can see it.

G: - of Brian Jordan Alvarez. [laughs]

C: Huh!

G: Like, when he showed up, I was like, “This is Brian Jordan Alvarez.” And I just thought the entire time-

C: Wait, the young one?

G: Yeah, the young one. And the entire time he was young, I was like-

C: Wait, but you would have a different association with young Charlie.

G: Who?

C: He's the actor that plays Lucas in House M.D.!

G: Who the hell is Lucas? The ex-wife's husband?

C: The private investigator-

G: Ohh!

C: The private investigator that House hires to spy on Wilson, and then he and Cuddy end up having a baby together.

G: That's crazy. Does that really happen in the show? [laughing]

C: Yes! Aren’t you the House M.D. fan?

G: Nope. [C laughs] I plead the fifth. I think that's a law in the United States. [laughs]

C: Yeah, I don't think it applies to overseas, but- [laughs] Anyway.

So basically, the rest of Jeb's act is like, he pretends that he gets possessed by a demon, and that helps him figure out what someone's card is. And Dean's like, “Man, this sucks. I can't believe people actually believe this, and, moreover, it's also literally offensive to the demon hunting community [both laughing] to pretend to be possessed by a demon.” Like, bro. Hunter is not an axis of oppression as much as The Winchesters want you to think that.

G: It's so funny to me that he also thinks that "People believe in magic tricks." Like, no!

C: [laughing] No, they don’t!

G: People are impressed by the skill that you exhibit when you do a quote "magic" trick. That's what people are impressed by.

C: Exactly.

G: They don't think it's literally magic. [C laughs] So annoying.

C: God. So, so annoying. Wait, I mentioned that The Winchesters finale, the main villain is someone who wants to kill all humans because she's mad that hunters wasted all their time protecting humans, right?

G: [laughs] Yeah.

C: Yeah. Okay. Dean would be on this woman's side, like, given a few more bad days watching magic tricks.

So the thing that you said about skill is what Sam says. He's like, "Okay, I mean, that was like- that was crap. But like, not all magic is crap. [fake-teary] Like, it takes a lot of skill, Dean." [both laugh] But this when we get the reveal that Sam, when he was 13, used to be into doing magic, which I already knew, because all the Sam bloggers had like, a week where they kept like calling him Sammy Kablammy or Sammy Shazammy or something like that. Were you privy to this?

G: It's an adorable fact.

C: Yes. It's very, very cute. And I know that sometimes, people can just have interests that are unrelated to their various traumas. But [laughing] how do we think this interest is related to Sam's various traumas? [G laughs]

G: I don't know. I mean, he was 13. So it was definitely after he learned that- about like, monsters. You think it's like, a way to rationalize the supernatural? That could be an interpretation, right?

C: Like, it's just like another really skilled trick and there's like a way of learning your way around it, you mean?

G: No more of like, "Yeah, like all- like, those things are like actual magic or so, and we can't control them. But this is like, magic that I can control. And I can learn," you know? Blah blah blah.

C: Aw. Yeah. Yeah, I agree that that is definitely part of it. I also wonder if, like, at this point he was like, "Oh, there's like something wrong with me in terms of like, I can do things or like, I can feel the demon blood doing something. So I want to focus my energy on magic that is good so I don't have to think about the fact that I might be magic in an evil way according to my dad, or whatever." [G laughs]

G: That is so funny. Like, now, I'm thinking about Sam moving that cabinet one time in Season 2 or whatever, and being like, "Oh my god. It's magic!" [both laughing] Which is definitely not what happened. But god, it's funny.

C: I mean, 13-year-olds are stupid.

G: Yeah.

C: I mean, they're not. But some are.

Anyway, so cute. He had a deck of cards and a wand! That's soo cute.

But then Sam brings their focus back to the case at hand. So they go to interview Vance's assistant. She's like, pulling like a really long like silk scarf out of a bag, and then like, a rabbit and shit while they're talking. But basically, they ask if Vance had any enemies, and apparently, yes, basically all the magicians hated him because he would steal their intellectual property.

G: Also, to mention the stuff that she's pulling out, right? Like, the silk scarf, it's kind of funny, because Dean's looking at it the whole time like "When's this gonna end?" and just, it never does. But also, why is there just a rabbit there? And why did she put the rabbit in the bag?

C: Yeah, I'm worried about that rabbit's wellbeing.

G: I'm worried about that rabbit. And it's a very pretty rabbit, too.

C: Yeah, it has like long fur.

G: Long hair, yeah.

C: And then she says that something that she found on Vance's body is the tarot card for the Ten of Swords! And it definitely did not belong to Vance because he hated card tricks. Interesting. Interesting how he had that and then he was stabbed with 10 swords from the ceiling.

So now we're in Jay's hotel room, and we get a scene that is so old man yaoi.

G: [laughing] Yeah.

C: It's- like, I knew that I would have heard about it already if Supernatural canonicized this. But like still, the whole time I was like, "Are they-? Like- Is this-? Am I supposed to be getting hints here? Because I'm definitely getting hints here." [laughing] You now how later, when Jay was like, "He wasn't just my friend." And I was like, "Wait! Are they doing it?" [both laugh] And then he goes, "He was my brother." [both laughing]

G: That is such a Dean Winchester thing to say.

C: That is the Supernatural experience.

G: God, do you remember like, in like- before- I mean, you don't remember, but I watched 15.20 live, and before 15.20 aired, there was like a little like, "Look back on Supernatural" thing. You know how like, in House, they do that, too, right? But like, yeah, they do it for Supernatural. And like, it's so funny being like- when they were talking about Cas, Jensen goes, “Cas is really the third brother of the show.” [both laughing] And, like, first of all, there's a literal third brother-

C: [laughing] - in the show already.

G: [laughing] Second of all, he confessed his love to your character two episodes ago!

C: Yeah. He said that he wanted to fuck you raw.

G: It's so funny!

C: What is the- I'm searching for the specific wording. You know that post from like, October of 2020 that's like, "Misha Collins said that Cas's last words will be really important in this political climate, [G laughs] but the only thing that would be important is if he says, 'Dean Winchester, I want to fuck you so bad and so raw,'" but like, that's not exactly what the post is phrased as. I don't know the specifics. One day I'll find out and I'll reference it more often.

G: [laughing] I love that Misha Collins actually said that. [both laugh] "What Cas will say is so important our political climate."

C: It's the same fucking energy as his like, Instagram post of him being like, "Currently the Supreme Court is taking away all right for all Americans. But you know what? Cas is gay." [both laughing]

G: I mean, he literally is.

C: Like, gay is like, vague enough that I can continue bi Cas truthing without being homophobic, right? Like, I don't- Is there a point where, like- I mean, Misha Collins isn't a writer, also. I think if there was a point where the writers were like, "He is exclusively attracted to men," I'd be like, "Okay, fine." But currently, he's still bi to me.

G: Yeah. I don't think that's like- I don't think when he was like, "I've loved you since I pulled you out of Hell," I don't think he was like, "And only men," [both laugh] you know? [both laughing] He was never like- he never said those words, so. "I love you, and only you, specifically, like, because you're a guy."

C: "You're a man."

G: "And if you were a girl, it's not gonna happen." [C laughs] Like, he never was like that.

C: Yeah, okay, cool. Anyway, we're so off topic.

G: We are.

C: Old man yaoi.

G: Old man yaoi.

C: So Jay is in his hotel room. He's like doing card tricks. He's doing really good. And then someone knocks on the door, and it is Charlie. And Charlie comes in, and he's like, "Are you gonna tell me how you did it?" You know, all this is so funny now that I know the ending. [both laugh] But whatever.

G: Yeah.

C: Jay clearly - he has a pep in his step. He's confident. He's calling himself "one of the great ones," magician-wise And, you know, Charlie is like, "I mean, yesterday, you were sad, old and dying, and now, like, everything's changed. Come on, talk to me." And he says, like- Charlie also says, "I didn't think that you could do it." And then he goes, "You're my friend. My best friend. I just didn't wanna see you get hurt." What is- okay, I, like, friendship is a real thing, but also, they- anyway. [both laugh]

Yeah, so Jay shows him another trick where he's able to pull the ace of spades, clubs, and diamonds out of the middle of the deck flawlessly.

G: Yeah, I actually really like this. Like, the little magic tricks that they do.

C: Yeah.

G: I feel like Julie Siege actually likes magic and was like, "Let me incorporate it into this episode." And I feel like throughout the episode, like, first of all, that little detail that, like, he was practicing pulling out the ace all his life, and now he can do it three easy. It's like, little details like that, I feel- I mean, I don't know anything about magic. So maybe I'm like, terribly off-base. But to me, as someone who doesn't know anything about this, it betrays a little bit of a- like, this is something that the writer actually liked and maybe knew a little bit about, and like, now, it's like-

C: Yeah.

G: So, I don't know. Because you can easily make an episode about magicians and about magic that feels like, they don't feel like people, you know, like, they are defined by their, I don't know, their occupations or whatever. But, like, these characters, they are magicians, but they also do genuinely feel like people with like, actual motivations and stuff. Which I really like.

C: Yeah. Yeah. And when they're talking about the industry, I'm like, "OMG, so true! The industry."

G: Yeah, like, that's what I'm talking about. Like it feels like, real in a way, which is, I think, a big part of why I really enjoyed watching this episode. Because the people felt real. You know how like, Sarah from "Providence" was an art curator, but like, it was like, nothing?

C: Yeah.

G: Like, it was nothing. Like, seeing- They could have easily done something like that with these magicians, right? Like, "Yeah, they're magicians, but it's whatever." But like, having them be so embedded in the industry, and their motivations are run around this theme, it's like, it's nice. It's well-written. It's a well-written episode.

C: Yeah, yeah. These are like some of the like, probably best characters who the case happens to that we've seen on Supernatural.

G: Yeah. They're fleshed out as much as they can with one-off characters.

C: Like, "Family Remains," that family was so annoying. Like, they tried to give them a backstory, and it like, just didn't really work. But this works.

G: Yeah, this works. All they needed was old man yaoi, yeah. [C laughs]

C: Right. Because last episode, you said the thing that bothered you about "Family Remains" is that it started as like, there was an uncle in the family, so it was sort of different -

G: Yeah, and then nobody gave a shit about it, yeah.

C: - from the usual nuclear family dynamic, and then, like they killed him and the dog, and then, like no one cared. And this- the relationship structure of this episode is so interesting-

G: Yeah! It's unconventional. Yeah.

C: Yeah. Even if they aren't fucking each other raw, which I think they are, like, it's nice that-

G: There's this family, yeah.

C: - I'm skipping ahead so much. But at the at the end, when Jay's like, “I'm gonna die alone.”

G: You actually feel it!

C: I just bought into the idea that like, yeah, this is his found family structure. He isn't gonna date or like, adopt or do anything. This was like, it for him.

G: They are like, actual people! And they feel like actual people! It's nice.

C: Right. It's nice.

So Jay says that he's gonna do The Executioner tonight. And then Charlie's like, “No, please don't.You're gonna die. Not even Houdini would do The Executioner.” And then, you know, Charlie keeps begging him not to. And then Jay positions Charlie a bit farther away from him and says something about how, “We can't end up like a bunch of old people doing birthdays and bar mitzvahs." Charlie says, “Beats dying!” [both laugh] Which, I guess, is funny now.

G: I mean, okay, I'm gonna bring this up now. I was gonna bring it up towards the end. But I can't stop myself. He was ready to grow old with these two. Which is like- Oh my god! He knew how to be immortal. He knew how to stay young forever. And like, we are to assume- like, didn't like Jay say that that they met when he was like in his 20s? When he was 20?

C: Yeah.

G: So like, at that point, I think Charlie already was immortal in some way.

C: Yeah, yeah, because he worked with PT Barnum, who was active in [both] the 1800s.

G: Yeah, so like, he already- This is literally Destiel. [both laughing] No, it's not. But this is a better love story than Destiel. [C laughs]

But he met this guy. He already was like, “Yeah, like, I could stay this young forever.” And then, like, he just decided like, “No, I'm going to grow old with them.” Which is-

C: Yeah, like, “I'm gonna wait until I'm in my sixties before I do anything about it. And I want to bring them with me.”

G: Yeah. I think actually- I feel a little bit like he only did this to make sure that Jay stays alive. Because he could have made them successful way earlier. But he only really did it because Jay was very obviously suicidal, right?

C: Yeah. Yeah.

G: And like, did he want to grow old and die with these two? Man!

C: I feel like he wanted them to be immortal together forever. But I feel like that is the same amount of like, [both] commitment.

G: Yeah. Damn. I think this guy’s gay or something. [C laughs]

C: Yeah.

So at “beats dying,” Jay says, “Does it?” And then Charlie says, “I would do anything for you. You know that.” [both laugh] [shouted:] What is happening?!

G: I love it.

C: “But I will not watch you die.” Is this not- has Destiel not said something like that, or am I just making it up?

G: No, Cas- I think Cas said that in Season 14 when Dean was gonna toss himself in the ocean.

C: Okay. Well.

G: I don’t know. I'm not sure.

C: Like, my face is red. Like, I’m sweating. Like- [both laughing] I'm going insane!

G: [laughing] What is happening?

C: I just- I don’t know. Love story of all time, perhaps?

G: Perhaps, yeah.

C: Anyway, so. [laughs] Anyway. Charlie makes light of it by saying, “I'll miss that show if you die.” And Jay says, “No, you'll be there. You're always there for me.” [laughing] Normal things to say. And then he says-

G: On one hand, when this was happening, I was like, “Yeah, they're friends.” [both laugh]

C: Which like, yeah.

G: And they are. But they're also lovers. So, good for them.

C: Right. I mean, there are friends that you would think this about and say this to. But like, it’s just a lot of one-after-the-others, and it's not even past midnight, and you aren't even crying or drunk, you know? [laughs]

G: Yeah.

C: So Charlie is told to check his pocket, and he does, and it's the ace of hearts! [G laughs]

G: That guy's gay or something! I've been saying.

C: What?

G: He literally gave him the ace of hearts.

C: No, exactly, exactly, exactly! [G laughs] Like, the spades is the cool one, you know? If you want to just be like, “Oh, here's a cool thing that happened,” you do the spades. The ace of hearts is like, hello?

G: And in his breast pocket! Like, by his heart. [C laughs] It's crazy.

C: No, sorry, we can't- I don't want to start sounding like a fucking TJLCer. [G laughs] I fear that if I go further down this path I'm just gonna sound like a TJLCer. You were not present during the TJLC days -

G: No, I was not. I did not give a shit about Sherlock, yeah.

C: People were making graphics where they were doing meta, and they were like, “phone = heart,” like, breast pocket, because in the first episode Sherlock asks John to get the heart- sorry, to get his phone for him out of his pocket. But yeah. This one, it’s literally the ace of hearts. So we are not insane people. [G laughs]

Anyway, Charlie is like, “Hey, that's pretty good.” And Jay goes. “I can do it, Charlie. I want to do it.” And you know, there's shots of them laughing and smiling together. And something about the camera angles, it's very romantic. It's very romantic.

G: Well, now, we enter a theater where Jeb Dexter is going to do an interview. And he's going to be interviewing Jay as kind of a “honoring my elders” kind of way. [both laugh] And Charlie and Vernon are just watching this, which is so funny to me. These three are inseparable.

C: Well, they're part of the same act though, right?

G: Are they?

C: They're his assistants or something. Because Charlie does the rope burning, at least?

G: Well, I think that was like- Jay says earlier, “We can't even afford assistants anymore,” so I think the implication was they're assisting each other in each other’s act.

C: Okay, yeah. They're giving each other a hand, winky face. Got it.

G: Yeah. Dean comes in. Sam and Dean are in fact in this episode. [C laughs] Dean asks Vernon, “Hey are you Vernon Haskell? I'm here to investigate the death of Patrick Vance,” and then he holds up an FBI ID. And as this is happening, Jeb and Jay are starting the interview, and it's Jeb being like, “Yeah, I'm Jeb Dexter. And we're at the International Magicians Convention, where I am going to tip my hat to the people who came before me.” And then he says, “Smoking hot effect last night, Jim,” and Jay goes, “It's Jay. My name is Jay.” And it starts this background noise of Jeb Dexter being like, “We'll just cut it in post. We'll loop it later. I don't know why you're being an asshole,” you know. That's the background. Meanwhile, Dean is talking to Vernon still. Deans asking about the tarot card that they pulled off the Vance body, and he's asking if Vernon is familiar with it because he used to use tarot cards in his act. But Vernon says, “That was a long time ago, it's not happening anymore. But there is someone that sells these kind of stuff over on Bleeker Street.” And Charlie immediately catches on, like, “Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He sells specialty stuff.” And they say, “Oh, Vance pissed him off a year ago, cost him so much money in royalties and stuff.” And they go like, “Yeah, the address is 26 Bleeker,” and then Vernon is doing the talking, and Charlie just goes like, “Yeah, ask for Chief.” [C laughs] And Dean’s like, “Okay,” and then leaves, and Charlie and Vernon just look at each other.

So we go to Bleeker Street, where we see that Dean is knocking at the door. So like somebody greets Dean, and he's like, “Oh, I'm looking for the Chief,” and the guy’s like, “Okay, come in.” And they come in and they enter this basement-looking place, where there's a loud, thumping music that you can hear from the distance. And you look around the place, and it's kind of dark, but there's graffiti everywhere. Dean is left alone there, and the guy’s like, “Yeah, don't touch anything, stay there.” And Dean is just waiting, waiting, waiting when a door opens from the other side of the room.

C: The floor?

G: Is it on the floor?

C: It sorta looked like it was on the floor.

G: It's sorta surface level, and then, like it goes down, so it looks like it's coming up. The light looks like it's coming up.

C: Got it.

G: So a guy comes in, and it's a bulky guy, and he is wearing leather. He's carrying a flogger. And he is like, you know, flogging. Like, he's like playing with the flogger with his hands. And then he- [C laughs]

C: He's slapping it against his hand a few times, yeah.

G: Yeah, yeah. What did I say?

C: [laughing] You said he's playing with the flogger with his hands, which is not incorrect, but sounds sort of like he's jerking the flogger off. [G laughs]

G: Anyway, when he finally stands still and we get a good look at him, he goes, "Ah. You're really gonna get it tonight, big boy." [C laughs] And Dea is like, "There's been a misunderstanding. I think I've been had."

C: "I've been had."

G: And the Chief goes, [overlapping] “Oh, you haven't been had until you've been had by the Chief.” Chief goes, "Oh! Before we get started, what's your safeword?" And Dean does a little face where he looks like he's like, holding back a vomit, which I think is rude. But you know. I mean, I get it. He's in a situation he doesn't want to be in.

C: Yeah. Yeah. So how did Vernon and Charlie know about this?

G: They must go to this place, I guess.

C: Yeah. That is also a conclusion.

G: Which, you know. Like- [laughs] I mean, it's just, I don't know, like, I do genuinely think they were trying to make like these three like, gay.

C: Okay.

G: And this scene is like, my evidence.

C: Huh. Yeah, okay.

G: Because it's like, they know about the, I would assume, underground gay subculture in this area.

C: Yeah. I mean, it literally is underground. It's a basement. And then a basement of a basement.

G: It's literally underground. And also, they don't frequent- they don't live here. You know what I mean?

C: True.

G: They make a point of say, like, these guys are on the road all the time. So I just don't buy the idea that like, "Oh, they know their way around the place." Like, I think this is just- I think they know already their way around this place because it's gay. By virtue of being gay.

C: Yeah, I do think the reasons I'm reluctant to say that it is on purpose is because in the opening scene with Jeb, they keep making fun of him for wearing eyeliner and shaking his ass.

G: Being kind of homophobic, yeah.

C: Yeah. And it just does feel vaguely homophobic. So-

G: But I think, personally, I think that's more of an intergenerational thing than a homophobia thing. You know what I mean?

C: Right, yeah. I get what you mean.

G: Yeah. 'Cause the vibe was more like-

C: I just think if they wanted to make it canon, they would have. Actually, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

G: This was, in fact, in 2009.

C: Yeah, I mean, I guess- Yeah, okay. I guess I just assume that all Supernatural writers are homophobic, so if they meant to do it on purpose, they would have been meaner about it. You know what I mean?

G: I don't know. But yeah.

C: But also, I don't know Julie Siege. Okay, but we're talking about the people who did Destiel not on purpose, you know?

G: Yeah.

C: Like, they didn't mean to do any of that until people started yelling at them so so much.

G: Do you think they- do you think Julie Siege was like, "Yeah, no, nothing's happening here at all."

C: Maybe. Yeah.

G: But you know what? There was something happening here at all, to me. And that's what's important. [C laughs]

C: Yeah. That is what's important.

I mean, with the later reveal that, like Charlie is evil, and trying to tempt them into immortality, maybe something is supposed to be happening here, but it's in the same way that villains are queercoded to like, add a new dimension to their evilness, or whatever. I don't know. I think she intended them to be besties that were not romantic. But something sure is happening.

C: We are at the motel room where Sam is staying alone. He's doing some research. Someone knocks at the door. He looks through the little peephole, and then sighs and opens the door all annoyed. And Ruby's here. She looks fantastic as usual. And Ruby is like, “Hey, the entire world is about to end, and you're just here at this magic convention like an idiot.” And she also says, “34 seals have been broken. Like, 34. Over half. And every day, we get closer to the Apocalypse, and someone has to do something. And you are that person. It has to be you.” Sam does not enjoy this situation. He's like, “What do you want me to do? Why are you pressuring me?” all that. And Ruby is like, “Hey. Like, if the seals are being broken, you should go after the one doing the breaking and cut the head off the snake." She says like, "You're the only one who can stop her, Sam, so step up and kill the little bitch." And Sam says something quite interesting. He says, “I'm game. Believe me. It's not the psychic thing I have a problem with.” Which- so like, at this point, he's accepted the Azazel giving him demon blood and psychic powers thing? He's okay with that now?

G: Yeah. And he's just upset about the demon blood.

C: Drinking, right. Because isn't this sort of different from what he told Dean in “Metamorphosis” where he’s like, “There's like this evil inside of me, and like, this is the only way I can make something good out of it.” He doesn't think that there's this evil inside of him anymore. He's okay with the psychic powers.

G: I don't think he thinks there's no evil inside of him anymore. I think that it's not the psychic thing that he has the most problem with, which is a different thing.

C: Alright, yeah, okay. So Ruby is like, "Okay, I know you have a problem with, but it is the only way." Sam refuses again. And then Ruby says, “You know, this would all be so much easier if you just admit to yourself that you like it.”

And I think what this is where like I bring up that in 4.09, we didn't really address the fact that Sam pushed Ruby away after she kissed him, and then she followed him and tried to convince him still, and that's like, not okay. And I feel like this sentence continues to play into the idea of like, this being akin to a sexual assault. Like, do you know what I mean?

G: Yeah.

C: Like the whole like, "You know you like it," is like, a staple sentence of rape culture.

G: Yeah. The whole, like, blurred lines issue from way back centers around this very phrasing.

C: Right. Yeah. And I think that that is deliberate here.

G: What I find most interesting, okay. So after this line, right, Ruby basically realizes that like this specific tactic is not working with Sam right now. So she changes tactic, and she goes, “Sam. Lucifer is gonna rise, and the Apocalypses are gonna start and people are gonna die. So just let me know when you don't want people to die anymore.” And it's so fascinating to me because I think this scene reminds me a lot of what you said that one time where you said that, like, in the past, Ruby was like, "You have to be tougher, Sam. You have to be just like Dean." And then when she realized that that's not working, she was like, “Okay, then I can be the Dean and you can continue being the Sam." Fundamentally, like, Ruby's intentionality of her interactions with Sam is to get him to do her bidding.

C: Yeah.

G: And but this scene fascinates me a lot because it shows you how she really does just throw everything at the wall to see what sticks.

C: No, yeah, exactly.

G: It's like, "Oh, like, I want to get Sam to do this thing, and I'll just do anything to get him to do it, and hope that one of them works." And it's like, in this part, she's like, "Well, I'm gonna pull the whole like, 'Oh, I know you want it, blah blah blah. I know that you actually like it, and you just won't admit it.'" And when it doesn't work she's like, "Well, people are gonna die. [C laughs] Does that work now?" Yeah.

C: Yeah, yeah. It's very interesting. Because, yeah, I feel like we're supposed to consider- I feel like Supernatural considers her like a master of manipulation. But like, I don't think she's actually that good at it. I think that - because, like, she tries for all of Season 3, and it doesn't work.

G: Yeah.

C: And that's probably because, like, she spends too much time in the prologue and doesn't really get to like, "And now you have to use demon powers to do blah blah blah blah blah" part until it's too late. And then, like, this time, she's like, "Okay. Go #2." And I feel like it only works because she found him at his most emotionally vulnerable time in his life.

G: Yeah.

C: Like, I think she heard from the crossroads demon, like, “Sam was just over here, like drunk and suicidal,” and then she was like, “Oh, well, now is my time to shine.”

She uses like his grief about Dean to like, get with him sexually too to be able to manipulate him.

G: When I was editing "Heaven and Hell," and I was listening to myself say that, "Oh, Anna bringing up all of Dean's trauma, and then being like, 'Yeah, let's fuck now.'"

C: Right.

G: Why is it that when Anna did it, I was like, "Oh, yeah, like, this is bad." But like, when Ruby did it, I was like, "Eh, okay." Because, like, the reason why is because when Ruby does it, it's framed as like manipulation, or at least in retrospect, it's framed as manipulation, because we know what she is trying to do. But like, with Anna, it's played incredibly straight-faced. It's like, this is just a normal thing people do.

C: Right.

G: And it's like, I think, that contrast of like framing really does highlight what Ruby is trying to do, which is that this is to take advantage of Sam, and especially that one, it was to take advantage of his grief.

C: Mm-hm. And she expected Dean to never come back right? So like, I feel like it's interesting how she tried to adapt-

G: Is trying to now, yeah.

C:'Cause when he first came back, she was like, “Oh, I can leave for a bit until like things like- because I don't want to drive a rift between the two of you,” and Sam’s like, “No, I'm gonna tell him,” and Ruby's like, “Oh, no, don't do that.” So like, yeah, that's like step number one. But step number two is like, even if Sam tells Dean, that actually works out pretty well for Ruby, because she knows that Dean is going to react negatively, which means that the more Dean knows about Sam and Ruby's relationship, the more that Sam will no longer have Dean in his corner, and only have Ruby. You know what I mean?

G: Yeah.

C: So she's not very good at manipulation, but because Dean is such a fucking asshole, [both laugh] everything she does is gonna work.

G: I was gonna say that when my friends are having difficulty in relationship, I make sure to like, when I'm talking to them about it to not center it around like, "You should be ashamed of yourself!" or whatever.

C: Oh, yeah.

G: Because that will push them further into the bad relationship, because now it's based on shame, you know? Which is like, it is something that is very visible in this in this dynamic, with like Ruby and Sam and Dean.

C: Right.

G: That Dean is pushing the whole like, "Oh, this is disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself." And in a way, it is both pushing Sam further into it.

C: Right, yeah. Dean's reaction is never like, "Oh, no, like it seems like she is manipulating her, and I'm like worried about you."

G: "She's manipulating you!"

C: It's just like, "Oh, you fell for it, and now you're besties?"

G: Yeah. "I'm angry at you because you're so stupid and you're so gullible." Yeah.

C: Right and like, he doesn't react in a - I mean, maybe this is what his concern looks like, but like, it's fucked. It's very fucked. And he doesn't offer Sam any compassion about it. It's just like, "Stop being stupid and ruing my life by making me have to see her or whatever the fuck."

G: Yeah

And now they are in an interesting place, because Dean is not as mad at her.

C: That's true. And I don't when he becomes re-mad at her. Probably when he finds out about the blood drinking or something.

I mean, yeah, this also works for Ruby, because Sam's in a spot where he's like, "Oh, like, finally, Dean's like not trying to kill like my girlfriend who's not my girlfriend anymore, so I can't do anything to rock the boat, so I really have to keep the demon blood thing under wraps."

G: Yeah.

C: It always works out really well, despite her not being that good at manipulation. So, wow.

C: So as you said, Ruby pulls the, "Okay, you know what? People are gonna die, and it's gonna be your fault. You're gonna cause all them to die. Goodbye." And leaves. And we cut to the theater, where, you know, Sam and Dean meet back up. Neither of them have found anything interesting. Dean does not tell Sam what the situation he encountered was. And, you know, Sam also doesn't tell Dean about the situation he encountered.

Meanwhile, Vernon and Charlie are discussing how Jay is going to do The Executioner. And Vernon's like, "No, you have to stop him. Like, why didn't you try? He's gonna die." And Charlie's like, "No, I tried really hard, but there was something in his eyes." So Sam and Dean show up, talk to them, and Dean’s like, "So. You sent me to The Chief, huh?" And, you know, Charlie and Vernon are both like, "Haha, yeah, we got you." And Dean's like, "I could have you arrested." And they're like, "Oh, no, you can't, because all magicians are grifters and shit. And we could tell that you were not a real FBI agent." [G laughs]

G: You know, instead of being like "hunters are cops," they should have just made hunters like magicians for real. [C laughs]

C: Yeah. Yeah. So Sam and Dean are like, “Ahaha! You've got us! We're actually, um, aspiring magicians?" [G laughs]

G: It was so stupid.

C: "And we came to the convention to learn things" Right. That's so stupid. And that required you to pretend to be FBI agents to ask about a murder? How is that related to being an aspiring magician?

G: I love how they do it pretty much in the same cadence that they talked to the girl who had oh, the big giant teddy bear.

C: Oh, Audrey? Whatever her name was?

G: Yeah. When they were like, “We're teddy bear doctors!” And they were like, "We're aspiring magicians!" [both laugh] It's so stupid.

C: Yeah, yeah. God bless. So they're like, “Oh, we have a new show that we want to do. It's like a brother act with rings and doves and rings.” And you know what? I was waiting for them to make the joke "It's going to be called Supernatural," [G laughs] and they didn't. So good for them.

G: It literally is gonna be called Supernatural.

C: Yeah. So Jay starts doing his act, and it's similar to earlier, where it's cutting between the act and another magician. This time the other magician is Jeb.

G: It's so funny, because, like, with Jay, it's like music, it's like swelling. And like, you know, whatever whatever. Every time it comes to Jeb Dexter, it's just metal music. [laughs]

C: Yeah. The song is called “Douchebag Museum” by Christopher Leonard, so they probably picked it because of the title.

G: Yeah. And it is quite funny because it makes this scene unintentionally funny, I think. And like, every time we cut back to Jeb, he is staring at the mirror doing a mirror face.

C: He's posing.

G: Yeah. You know the face you do in front of a mirror when you're like, "Do I look good?" And you're like, "Oh." That's the face that he's doing the entire time until he is hanged to death.

C: Yeah. Sorry, Jeb.

The trick is that Jay is put in a straitjacket, and then his head is put in a noose, and then in a minute, he has to be able to get out, or he is gonna be hanged to death. And, you know, it's the screen again, so you can only see the silhouettes. While Jeb is posing, there's like a rope that sort of just like, starts forming itself into a noose, and then creeping towards him while he is posing and shit. And then, like, in the last second, Jay hasn't made it out. The noose loops around Jeb's neck and then attaches to the ceiling fan. And then it kills him. And the curtain is pulled aside, and Jay is alive. And Dean's cheering and clapping like, “Oh my god! That was soo cool!” And Sam is just frowning, and he goes, “That was not humanly possible.” Man. Dean's all like, “I can't believe people believe this shit.” And then he's out here believing this shit.

G: He's so real.

C: Yeah. I think it's cute that Sam was the one who figured it out because I think maybe some of his, his 13-year-old magic background helped him know what was possible and what wasn't.

G: Yeah.

G: So in a hotel room, Sam and Dean are talking about how Jay was big in the 70s, and he, like, played Radio City Music Hall. And then Dean's like, "What happened to him?" And Sam's like, "Well, what happens to everyone in show biz. He got old."

G: Dean is saying, "Maybe he's using real magic?" They start inferring, maybe the tarot is involved, blah blah blah. And then Dean says, “Man, I hope I die before I get old. Whole thing seems brutal.”

C: Well, good news.

G: Good news, Dean. Sam just asks if he really thinks that, if they really will die before they get old. Dean is like, “Well, we have both done that already.” Sam just pushes through, says “Do you think we're gonna be chasing demons until we're 60?” Dean says, “I think by then, we'll be dead for good. You want to end up like Travis? Or Gordon?” Which is such an odd thing to say, I feel.

C: [laughing] Gordon was not fucking 60! Gordon was like, 30!

G: Yeah, Travis makes sense, because Travis is an old guy.

C: He's probably in his 50s.

G: But like, Gordon was like, their age! Gordon was their age. Sam goes like, “There's Bobby,” and Dean says, “Yeah, Bobby, poster child for growing old gracefully.” And I was like, “Yes!”

C: Don’t be so mean to your elders. What did Bobby do wrong?

G: He literally is. He literally is the poster child for growing old as a hunter gracefully.

C: Like, he’s still doing the work, and he has a nice enough house, and he has friends and a lot of connections, and he helps people out.

G: And also, I understand that they only met Rufus once at this point, it was just Season 2.

C: Right, but I’m surprised that he wasn't mentioned.

G: When we spoke- I love how we're saying “when we spoke to Rufus.” [C laughs] Like, I didn't speak to him. Dean spoke to him.

C: Well, I did.

G: But when Dean spoke to Rufus, that was their conversation, right? About Rufus growing old and retiring, basically, and how Dean is not gonna do that because he's gonna die young or whatever, because his deal is coming up. So you don't have to hunt for the rest of your life. Like Rufus, you literally have a guy who retired. Like, you can actually do that. I don't know. It's just, it's a bit odd

C: It is. It's a bit odd.

G: Anyway, Dean insists that it either ends bloody or sad, and that's just it. Sam goes, “Well, what if we could win? What if we could, you know, just put an end to it all?” And Dean is like, “Uhh, is there something I should know about?” And Dean evades the question, and says that like, “I wish you could just cut the head off the source, you know, cut the head off the snake." And Dean is like, “Yeah, I mean, probably not gonna happen though. Should we go look for Jay?” And then they do.

C: Yeah. I like that Ruby tried the whole “everyone's gonna die” tactic because her thought is like, “Oh, Sam's an altruistic person, this’ll work, or whatever.” But Sam agrees to come back at the end because he just wants a better life for himself, and to not die young, I feel like. And I don't know. That's nice. Sorry, Sam, that you always striving for a better life, which is something that you wanted since you were a child, is what's gonna doom you once more. F. Also, another thing about this scene is that the dialogue is about as corny as most Supernatural dialogue, but, while I was watching it, I was like, “Huh! I don't feel like this is that corny.” And then I realized that the reason is because there's no piano music. [G laughs]

G: God! I completely forgot to mention, I think, in the last three episodes or something, that literally any time anything happens, the music is so in your face, and they just push through with it. And yeah, this scene didn't have sad music. And that is a big reason why it's fine.

C: Right. Yeah, yeah. If in any other episode with any other music track, I would be saying, "It's so corny, it's so corny," after every sentence you said.

C: When they go look for Jeb, they see that on his body is the tarot card for the Hanged Man. And then they also notice that, "Hey, the two people who died so far, people who were mean to Jay, so he's probably doing some kind of death transference thing via the cards."

G: I mean, this is also so interesting. Like, not mean to Charlie.

C: Yeah.

G: Mean to Jay specifically. And also specifically, like, there's no even like, "Oh, he just happened to be mean to Jay, but like, you know, like, there's other inciting factors." Like, when he was asked why he chose Vance, he was like, “That guy was disrespecting you!”

C: Yeah.

G: Crazy.

C: Something about the Charlie and Jay relationship is so Samruby, but I guess I'll get into it when the reveal happens.

Sam isn't able to follow Jay properly because he was able to slip him. And then they decide to just go into his hotel room with their guns fucking out, and, you know, shouting like, “Hey! Go up against the wall. We know what you did. We know you put a spell on those tarot cards doing real magic." And Jay is like, “What? There's no such thing as real magic, it's all just illusions and shit.” And Dean's like, “Oh, so Jeb Dexter found dead and hanged was an illusion?” Jay’s like, “Oh, no, what? Something happened to Jeb?” And he just clearly does not know what's going on. He clearly did not do anything. Sam and Dean are whispering to each other, “What do we do?” And it cuts to this old man tied in a chair. For what? They've already established that he didn't do it.

G: And also, it's just to set up wacky hijinks. [C laughs] Like, "Oh, he escapes, and Sam and Dean get caught by the police!"

C: Yeah.

G: Like, bruh. He literally is an escapeologist. Fuck off! [C laughs]

C: Yeah. Yeah. So as you said, the wacky hijinks are that Sam and Dean have their backs turned to Jay and are whispering to each other about how, if it's not him, it's like one of his friends, someone in his corner. And then, when they turn back around, Jay has escaped. So Sam and Dean run out of the room to find him, and then it turns out he was hiding in the closet. Slay. [G laughs]

C: And then, while Sam and Dean are running around, the police show up because Jay called them from the closet, and then he's like, “Go, officers! Arrest them!" Etc.

And then we have a talk between Jay and Charlie, and Jay is like, "They were saying that there was real magic involved in my act, and it actually killed Vance and Jeb back then." And Charlie is like, “Oh, that's ridiculous! No.” And Jay's like, "Well, I mean, my sudden skill is pretty weird, and those deaths were pretty coincidental." And Charlie's like, "Oh, I mean, there was no great loss there." Like, he literally hates them so much for being mean to Jay, like, one time.

Charlie's like, “Stop believing what they said. You're being ridiculous.” And Jay says, “Maybe I shouldn't do the show tonight, then.” And Charlie goes, “Are you kidding me? You have a sold-out house out there, you have to.” Also we find out- when we later see the scene where he's like, doing the show, a sold-out house is like 40 people. [both laugh] Like, god. No wonder he's so depressed. [G laughs]

G: Yeah. More people listen to this podcast-

C: To this fucking podcast than a sold-out show for Jay! [both laugh] Oh, boy.

And Jay finally confesses that the Table of Death thing was like, intended as like, he was trying to kill himself. It was a suicide attempt that he just managed to get out of alive, but he has no clue how.

And Charlie does not really give this its proper weight. He just goes like, "But you did make it out alive!" And then he says, like, "You know, back in your day you were the best I ever saw. And now you got it back. It doesn't matter how. Just seeing you like this again, it makes me feel young." And, you know, one more, like "You gotta do the show. Don't throw away this gift."

G: Now that I think about it like, it's so funny that he decided that the next victim is gonna be him. [both laughing]

C: Yeah. Yeah, that was really funny of him.

G: It's like, "Yeah, let's traumatize this guy to hell and back, baby!"

C: I mean, I think the reasoning is "He'll be so happy to see me again that it'll make him more likely to say yes to the immortality thing."

G: Yeah yeah yeah.

C: Which is very like, you know, "If his brother won't be dragged to Hell by hellhounds, I can at least engineer something like it." [G laughs]

G: Yeah.

C: So, you know, the Table of Death is happening again. And, you know, same thing as before. Spikes go down. It looks like he gets hit. But then he's okay. And then there's screams from backstage, and Charlie is dead, in quotes-

G: Whoo!

C: With those ten stab wounds in him. Woot woot.

G: Yeah. We are back at the hotel lobby where Sam and Dean were caught earlier. And Sam and Dean are like, “Yeah, thank you for bailing us out or dropping the charges, or whatever." Can- even if you drop the charges, does that mean they're just free to go?

C: I guess, because, like, it's only like his word against theirs, right? It's not like anyone else has evidence that they did anything.

G: Ah, I guess so.

C: So he could've just been like, "Whoopsie. They were just like doing a fun little prank on me because I'm like famous, and they wanted to meet me. I don't care enough to send them to jail about that. Bring them back," or whatever.

G: Sam and Dean go to a bar where they start talking, and they really hammer home the backstory. Jay was like this kid who like, I thikn the implication was he gambled for money and then was cheating at cards, which does remind me of one of Caravaggio's paintings. It's basically, like- I forgot the title of the painting. I think it's like The Magicians or something.

C: Oh.

G: But it's basically like, basically these two- I think it's like, card trick or something. And it's these two guys pulling card tricks against this rich aristocrat that they're playing with. And like, the reason why that was powerful or whatever is that, "Yeah, these two guys who are like pulling the wool over this rich person's eye is like, taking money from him, stealing money from him, or whatever whatever. But even if that guy goes home with an empty pocket that day, he's gonna go home to a beautiful house, to servants, to money that these two cannot even begin to fathom." So it's kind of like, a- I don't know. Like, "Let poor people steal shit!" [both laugh] kind of painting, I guess.

C: Nice.

G: Which I agree with.

Anyway, he was, in fact, that guy from the Caravaggio painting, and Charlie taught him tricks of the trade, I guess, quite literally. Tricks of the magic tricks trade. And then that's kind of how they started. Like, Charlie was mentoring him. And then they just started being buddies who were successful magicians, and then old and faded. And he says, “He was more than my friend. [C laughs] He was my brother.” Love that.

C: God! I- the one second between those two sentences, when I was like, “Holy shit,” was one of the most joyous of my life, and then it was gone. It was gone from me forever.

G: Jay's saying, "I should have listened to you guys." Sam and Dean go, "But you didn't do it. It's okay." And he is deadset on revenge.

Sam starts inquiring whether Vernon might be the guy. Jay's like, “No! Like, we're family, you know?” And Sam was like, "Yeah, Charlie and Vernon were your family, Jay." And Dean comes in and goes, “But now Charlie's gone.” Which is like, I don't know. It's so fucking corny to me. But.

C: Yeah.

G: Jay clarifies that Vernon would never do that. And then Dean says, "See. The thing about real magic is it's a whole lot like crack. People do surprising things once they get a taste of it." And the camera is so obviously pointing at Sam. And it's like, "Ohh. [C mumbling along] Start of the whole demon blood drinking is a drug" thing.

Anyway, Jay's like, "Okay. But this needs to be true, because Vernon's all I got left." Sad!

So Sam and Dean go to Vernon's room and just look for shit. Like, we start there, and, like, Jay, calls Vernon to be like, "Come to the theater with me." And Sam and Dean enter. And Sam’s like, “Wow, this play is like, so full of magic stuff.” And, you know, they start exploring the room.

We're back at the theater. And Vernon comes in. and he's saying, "Jay! The headliner gig is yours in this convention."

C: Very weird reaction after your mutual best friend died.

G: Yeah. Quite weird, quite odd. Vernon's like- Jay turns around, and he's looking so forlorn, and goes, "A day ago, if you told me I can be standing at this stage. But no, I can't do it, Vernon." And Vernon's like, "What are you talking about?" And it was like, it is very obvious what he is talking about. It is so obvious. There is nothing more obvious than what he is talking about. But Jay's like, "Yeah-"

C: For someone who didn't kill Charlie, he is being very suspicious.

G: Yeah. And Jay just says, "Charlie's gone!" And Vernon is doing the thing where it's like, "This is what he would have wanted. This is your shot. Our shot." Which is, you know, like, sends alarm bells ringing in Jay's head. And Jay is like Charlie is dead, and Vernon's like, "He was my friend, too, you know." Jay starts accusing him at this point, like, "Oh, is that how you treat a friend? You kill him, for what? So we could be back on top." First of all, it is odd to me that, like, "You kill him so that I could be back on top." Like, I don't think Vernon and Jay have that kind of- Vernon is the third in this relationship. [C laughs] Slaycation.

C: Yeah. Yeah. The whole "He was my friend, too" thing feels very much like how, whenever Cas dies, they only focus on Dean's grief. [G laughs] Like, Sam's just supposed to be fine with it.

G: Slay.

C: Slay.

G: Yeah, Vernon's like, "Dude, you're scaring me. What are you talking about?" And Jay keeps on berating him. And suddenly, somebody shows up. And he's like, "Wouldn't be so hard on him, Jay." He didn't do it.

C: Gasp.

G: And then we go to Vernon's hotel room again, and Dean is just looking through a bunch of posters. Then he sees a poster of someone with a birthmark by their eyebrow.

C: Which Charlie has.

G: And he's like, "Does this look like someone we know? Charlie has that birthmark." And I remember thinking while watching this episode, "I love that birthmark on him." Like, you know, having a birthmark on your face, I'm sure that, like, does things to you even if it's like, not even an unflattering birthmark like it's on this guy. I'm glad he became an actor, even if he has a birthmark. [laughing] Turns out, it's probably a fake birthmark.

C: Perhaps. Sad.

G: Sad! Anyway, we go back to the theater, and it is, in fact, Charlie, but now as a 28-year-old or something.

C: And he's played by Lucas from House M.D. even though you didn't notice.

G: Charlie is like, "Wow! It feels good to be young." And Jay is like, "What the hell! How old are you?" And he says, like, "Technically, I'm 28. But I've been around for so long. I was with Barnum. He gave me everything. He gave me the grimoire." Which we see a lot of later. I don't know if it's the grimoire. Or maybe it's a grimoire.

C: I think it's just a grimoire.

G: But like, what we see with Rowena later, it's like, it's real shit. I think it's like, made of human skin or something. And he said, like, "Yeah, I thought it was a scam, but then the spells worked. And then at the end, there's a spell for immortality. And I started using it." And he pulls out like, a deck of tarot cards, and he tells them, "Don't touch it. You don't even know what it will do." And Jay says, "You killed Vance. You killed Jeb Dexter." And Charlie says, like, "You think this is a parlor game? You were being humiliated by those punks! You wouldn't even defend yourself!"

C: And also, specifically, he says that this is a different spell than the immortality spell. Like, he pulled this out specifically just to help Jay with his career and also kill those guys.

G: Yeah. And he reveals to Vernon that like, "This is a gift that I gave to you. You wanted to kill yourself. I saved your life." And he says, like, "I was there for you. Like I've always been. Like I'll always be. Come with me, both of you. We're gonna have a blast. None of the aches and pains, like, all the know-how," blah blah blah. And they just refuse.

C: Well, Vernon's considering it.

G: I think so. Jay says no, but Charlie says like, “I've never had friends like the two of you before."

C: Agh!

G: "I've never offered this to anyone before. So let me do this for you.”

C: Yeah.

G: And Jay says, "Well, what's the price tag? Someone has to die?" And like, "This isn't right, Charlie. Like, what you're doing is not right."

C: And then Charlie says that like, “I don't want to come back alone to start all over alone." Which, agh! Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

G: Vernon kind of gets this. He goes like, "We can be young again." Charlie is saying, "The three of us together, vital and alive, forever." Crazy.

C: Yeah.

G: Crazy.

C: Yeah.

G: Dean comes in and says Shi-Long Lang's iconic line! [both laugh]

C: "Not so fast!"

G: [dramatically] "Not so fast!" [both laughing] I love that.

C: Yeah, but speaking of the Samruby of it all like, I feel like-

G: Wait. I have a question. How did Dean figure out that- What was the poster that he saw?

C: The poster was like, an old poster, from like, the 1900s. Like, early 1900s or something.

G: Ah, okay.

C: So he was like, “Charlie is old, but he's not that old.” [laughs] So he must be some kind of an immortal.

Speaking of the Samruby of at all, this feels so, like “Lucifer Rising." First off, the him killing those people because they were making fun of Jay is very like, [Mick Jagger voice] "Not funnay." [both laugh]

G: Not funnay!

C: - And then killing that demon in the 4.09 flashback. And like, I don't know. This is so like, he genuinely thinks that both of them will be like happy about this and want to take the deal. I really like the idea of like, people who haven't really felt love before, like, feeling it for the first time, but because they're also #evil, like, the ways that they express it betray how much they really don't know the person that they purport to love. And the whole like, dark gift, blah blah blah, shit here feels very like Ruby's “I'm giving you these powers and we're gonna rule Hell together, and won't that be so great? What do you mean you're upset?” And Jay uses the whole, “You used me" terminology as well, so.

G: While you were saying that, I felt the need to clarify that when Hannibal tells Will [C laughs] that “I gave you a gift, but you didn't want it,” Will replies, “Didn't I?”

C: Oh.

G: Yeah, it's crazy.

Anyway, Sam and Dean enter, and they're saying, [dramatic] “No, not so fast! [C laughs] You're not gonna be immortal!” And then Charlie just starts choking him, like, hanging him. I don't know, stuff happens.

C: Yeah. Sam gets put on the table.

G: Sam gets put on the table. And suddenly, Charlie gets stabbed in the stomach, and he is bleeding out. And what happened was Jay stabbed himself. Like, he pickpocketed a bunch of cards, the tarot cards from Charlie, and then left one that's, I don't know, someone's getting stabbed or whatever. Then he stabbed himself.

C: It was The Magician.

G: Oh, really?

C: Yeah.

G: He stabbed himself so the injury transfers to Charlie, and Charlie is like, “You picked these strangers over me?”

C: Oh my god.

G: And then dies. And Sam and Dean are fine. Hell yeah.

C: And it's so delicious because I feel like Jay would only have the skill to do that because of the spell that Charlie put on him. Because we see later he can barely shuffle a deck of cards. Like, evil contains the seeds of its own destruction, but the evil seeds are because of love, etc etc.

G: Wow! Poetic. [C laughs]

C: We cut to a bar where Jay is hanging out, and he's trying to shuffle a deck of cards, and he’s not doing well. Poor guy. Sam and Dean come in, and they're trying to do a nice thing, where they're like, “Hey, we wanted to thank you for saving our lives yesterday.” And Jay says, “Who give a shit.” But specifically he's very upset because he killed his best friend yesterday, and Vernon left, doesn't want to speak to him ever again because he killed Charlie. And Dean says some dumb shit about how like, “You know Charlie was never going to give up what he was doing. So you did the right thing.” And you know, Jay, thankfully, is not having it. I'm really glad that we have an episode where the people that they quote unquote “saved”, but like not really, are miserable and not grateful, you know?

G: Yeah.

C: Because it’s so annoying to have people week after week be horribly traumatized and have that trauma never manifest itself as anger at Sam and Dean. So yeah, Jay says, “Are you sure about that?” in response to Dean saying that, which I think makes sense, because Charlie said this was the first time he had friends like them. Like, this is his go #1 at love and shit. He's not gonna be very good at it, but maybe later, he will be. He says, “Charlie was like my brother, and now he's dead because I did the right thing. He offered me a gift, and I just threw it back in his face. So now I have to spend the rest of my life old and alone. What's so right about that?” It's soo good.

G: And this was so interesting to me, because, while it was happening, I was thinking to myself, "Every time they do something like this in Supernatural, it always goes round about to like what is happening with Sam and Dean." You know how when Anna was like [C laughing], "I was on the road with a father who wouldn't even respond." And it's like, "No, you weren't. You're not on the road. That's like, you're only saying that because it's the Sam and Dean show." This one, the whole time it was happening, I was thinking, “Oh, how are they gonna circle back to this with Sam or Dean? Or like, what's the relation or whatever?" But it's not as direct.

C: Yeah.

G: Like, whatever conclusion Sam gets from this, it's not direct in that way. And that makes it feel like this is actually something Jay is experiencing as a person, as like a character, like devoid of Sam and Dean, you know? He is just - this is just what he's feeling. And like, he does not exist in service of furthering Sam and Dean's journey, or whatever. I like that.

C: Yeah.

I do find it annoying, the brother language, though. Because, like, we've already talked about Supernatural and the nuclear family. And I feel like the only reason that they consider this an acceptable model for a relationship is because they say that they're like brothers. And so that's like Sam and Dean's family structure. So then they're like, “Okay, well, that's okay, then.” But like, I feel like, if they were like, "This is queerplatonic or romantic," they would not allow it to happen. So, sad!

Also, like, during this whole scene, like, yeah, Sam is coming to a realization of his own, but it's not direct. Because he looks very emotional and teary at all this. I do think there's like, a way to look at this as a direct thing. As like, the gift like being like Ruby's demon blood thing, and the powers that Sam is going to get from them. But I feel like that's not really what Sam is thinking.

G: It's not.

C: So that's interesting. Though I think maybe just the general idea of like, "You should redefine what you think the right thing is" is something that sticks with him?

G: Yeah. But it's not like one is to one, you know?

C: Exactly. Yeah, yeah.

And then Jay decides to leave, and he leaves his card deck on the table, and the bartender's like “Hey, Jay, your cards,” and he says, “Throw them away.” And, you know, everyone's very miserable. Dean says that he's gonna get a beer, and Sam says, “I'm gonna take a walk.” And we go to the last scene. It's dark. There's an alleyway with the car parked in front of it. We're all very serious and emotional, and then suddenly, there's this one car that like- did you notice that one car that just fucking bounces?

G: Yeah. It looks exactly like the Impala.

C: It looks like the Impala, and it looks like the tire pressure is insane [G laughs] because it is like, bouncing down the road.

G: Yeah.

C: Which really undercuts the tension of everything. [G laughs] But, you know, after that car passes by, Sam walks in. He opens the door to the car, and it's Ruby's car, and I wish I was one of the people who knew what car models were, so that I could say something about her choice of car, but I can't.

And he goes in the door and he tells her, “Okay. I'm in." And Ruby asks, "What changed your mind?" And I feel like I would expect more sarcasm from her, but this is a moment where it seems like she just genuinely does want to know. And I'm sure part of why she wants to know is like, for manipulation purposes, to put in her Sam file. I also think she's just curious because she is familiar with him in a way, as a person, and somewhat fond of him. Like, every time I say, like, “They're in love for real,” what I mean is this is not real, but there are moments of real affection that I see come through in their relationship, and those things make me soo insane, and I feel like this is one of the moments.

G: Yeah.

C: And then he says, “I don't want to be doing this when I'm an old man.” Which doesn't make any sense because if you're not doing this, you'll die.

G: I have no idea.

C: Like, [laughs] what do you mean?

G: I love this because it's like, you know, I think I love this episode, because it's like, it is not about Sam and Dean.

C: Yeah.

G: All the Sam and Dean scenes kind of don't make sense. I think Julie Siege just wanted to write about all these other people, and Sam and Dean just happen to be there. Like, even-

C: I feel like these are OCs she's developed for a while, but she's like, "Well, they can't carry a whole thing on their own. Let's put them into Supernatural."

G: Yeah. And what's especially funny to me is, usually Sam and Dean save people in a way, right? They do absolutely no saving in this episode. They show up, and Jay saves them.

C: They make Jay aware of the situation, maybe.

G: Yeah. Jay saves them. So like, okay.

C: Yeah.

G: So I think that could be it for our post-episode synopsis. But do you have anything more?

C: No. Old man yaoi.

G: Old man yaoi.

G: Okay. Best Line/Worst Line.

C: Huh.

G: What's your best line?

C: I really liked "So now I have to spend the rest of my life old and alone." It's very like, "Oh. I believe that. And you're right. Like, these people are it for you." Very emotionally affecting.

G: Yeah. I actually- I don't know. I liked the "He offered me a gift, and I just threw it back in his face."

C: [laughs] For Hannibal reasons?

G: For Hannibal reasons, yeah!

C: Slay.

G: What's the worst line?

C: Uh...

G: Every time Sam and Dean spoke to each other, I'm like, "Girl." [C laughing] I don't know. I guess I don't like the whole like, "You want to end up like Travis? Or Gordon?" God.

C: Oh, yeah, that was fucking annoying.

G: And then Dean being like-

C: So mean to Bobby!

G: "Oh, yeah, Bobby. Poster child for growing old gracefully." Like, fuck off!

C: He's literally fine!

G: He's fine, you asshole.

C: He's nice.

G: He's normal! [both laugh]

What's your best and worst? Well, what's your worst, I guess?

C: I can't think of any besides yours. I mean, I guess it was not nice of them to make fun of Jeb's eyeliner.

G: Yeah, I guess.

C: But mostly I agree with what you said. I just want to see if there's anything else, and there isn't.

G: Yeah. How about our spreadsheet?

C: Spread those sheets.

G: This one, I think, is interesting. We don't have racism. We don't have misogyny.

C: Well, because there's no women in it-

G: Or people of color, yeah.

C: Well, there's Ruby, but there's no Dean and Ruby in it. That's the fun part.

G: Homophobia.

C: I think- Okay, there's the Chief, and there's the eyeliner.

G: Yeah.

C: And I think the Chief thing is homophobic in that, like, they could have sent him to like a dominatrix or something, right?

G: Yeah.

C: But like, they were like, "It'll be extra funny if it's a leather daddy." So that's something.

G: I don't know. Like, I hesitate to so call it homophobia.

C: Really. Okay.

G: I mean, if this was in any other show, I would've been like, "I don't think it's homophobic."

C: That's true. But it's in Supernatural. [G laughs]

G: Yeah.

C: I mean, it is in Supernatural, though.

G: It is. Yeah, exactly.

C: And it is in 2009, which I think- sometimes like I forget how the era means that things that I just find like fine and normal would be homophobia. Like, that poor, dead, gay intern. That stuff was homophobic when it was written because of the parts of it that were supposed to be funny. So I think there's something there.

Also, we gave "Wishful Thinking" [G laughing] a 1 just for Dean calling Amaretto "a girl drink."

G: [laughs] I mean, we can give this a 2.

C: Okay, yeah, that seems correct. Yeah. Okay. 0, 0, 2. We did it.

G: Well. I would say this is probably a mid-8s episode.

C: For the IMDbs?

G: 8.4 is my guess. Yeah, we are in, in fact, the IMDb.

C: Yeah, I really liked it, but I don't know how other people are gonna feel about it. Because a lot of people hate when episodes don't focus on Sam and Dean.

G: Sam and Dean, yeah.

C: So... but it was compelling! I was compelled. I don't know whether to go above or below you. I'm gonna go above just because it's what my heart says, even though I know I'm wrong. So an 8.5.

G: Okay, let's see.

Bro, it's a 7.9.

C: What are they- what? For what? Why? What do they hate about it so much?

Wasn't- okay, "Family Remains" was a 7.9 too, which, that one at least makes sense. But what do they dislike about it?

G: They think the Chief thing is queerbait with Dean.

C: Huh. Wait, that's why, it's rated low?

G: No, this is actually a 10 over 10. But-

C: Oh. If you wanted to, you could read his, like, "I think I'm gonna throw up" thing as "I think I hauve Covid" horny thing thing if you wanted?

G: Yeah.

C: People like to cut that scene so it goes straight from the guy showing up to Dean swallowing to make it seem more like an arousal response, so I can see why some people would think that. But, I don't know. It's just clearly just them having a laugh.

Okay, thank god. cubsandculture calls it "One of the very best episodes. A tragicomedy to its core," and it says that it's "one of the most overtly homosexual and/or homoerotic episodes in the entire series with the bond between Jay and Charlie." [G laughs] Yeah, they say it almost plays out like a Hays' Code era gay villain, which I think is correct.

G: That's the review that I quoted.

C: Oh, yeah, no, it does say that it's queerbaiting with Dean to have the Chief. I mean, maybe like, like with an established pattern, you could like, put it in as one of the things. But yeah.

This one references Rufus and Dean's conversation, which, yeah, correct. It is important to think about.

G: Yeah. It is something you think about!

C: This one ends with - it starts with talking about the episode, and then it ends with, "This is why I stopped watching at Season 9. It gets depressing the longer it goes because it's just the sheer time these two guys have spent in this miserable situation." So real. [G laughs]

G: I mean, so do we.

C: Yeah. yeah.

None of these really explain why they don't like the episode.

G: Yeah. But I think what happens is when fewer people rate an episode, it is most of the time rated lower.

C: Right. Because only people with very strong opinions either way would comment.

G: Yeah. Like, for example, "Heaven and Hell" was an 8.8, right? And 5.6k people rated it. This one has 4.6k ratings, and it's rated lower.

C: I see.

G: I mean, recently, I've been rewatching Kim's Convenience, and I looked up the IMDb for that, and it is shockingly low. And I'm like, "Oh, it's because less people watch it."

G: There's a review praising Barry Bostwick, right? So I went to his to his IMDb page, and literally the first thing in his description is "tall," and then in open-close parentheses, "(6'4")." [laughing

C: Wow, just like Jared Padalecki.

G: I love that! He is literally tall (6'4").

G: Okay, I think that's it for this episode of Busty Asian Beauties. Next week, we will be discussing Season 4, Episode 13: "After School Special"!

C: Oh! Okay. G: Yeah! Leave us a rating or a review wherever you get your podcasts. C: Follow us on social media!

G: We're gonna see the jacket! We're gonna see the leather jacket! It's gonna be on teenage Dean!

C: Aw. That's nice. And we get to see- is this the one where Sam-

G: Is in high school, yeah.

C: - and his English teacher talk? Yeah. What a sweet kid.

G: I guess middle school.

C: Well. Follow us on social media. We are on twitter at twitter.com/BeautiesPodcast and on Tumblr actually at bustyasianbeautiespod.tumblr.com. Our official tag is #BABPod, B-A-B-POD. Thanks to everyone who's donated to our Ko-Fi at ko-fi.com/bustyasianbeautiespod, and check out our merch at babpod.redbubble.com. G: Yeah. If you have any feedback, comments, or inquiries, you can email us at [email protected]. See you guys next time! [both] Bye! [guitar music]

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G: She said, "I have sensitive hearing. Don't laugh so loud!"

C: Aww. She's just like your cat from 4.11 or 4.10.

G: Yeah. You know what? That cat has not stopped biting me. I think maybe he just hates me.

C: Huh! Maybe.

G: But he loves to be on my bed. This is the issue. He would go to my bed, and I'd be like, "Hi! You're in my bed!" And then he just starts biting me? [C laughs] It's a lovely experience

C: Does he enjoy being in your bed when you're not there?

G: No. He only goes to my bad when I'm in there.

C: Like, he only goes there to bite you. [G laughs]

G: Well, I like to think that he goes there because he loves me, and he wants to cuddle. But I think he also wants to bite me.

C: Uh-huh. I mean, maybe this is just like a cute aggression response.

G: Oh yeah!

C: Like, maybe he loves you so much that he can't handle it.

G: Yeah, exactly. I mean, it's not that bad.

C: Anyway.

G: It's chewtoy era for me.

C: Yeah.

G: Anyway...

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G: You know, I watch Rhett & Link, and they often say that when they were in grade school or something, they were made to memorize every county in North Carolina. So like, they were very familiar with the North Carolina counties. Like, they could name like all hundred of them or something because they were trained to do that from a young age. Did you ever experience that? [laughs] Whichever state you're from, whatever. [C laughs] Do you have counties in- in the whatever state you're from? [laughing] I don't know what-

C: There are counties in the whatever state I'm from, but I did not memorize them. I feel like I could probably list a decent amount of them because of a research project that I did at school. But probably not all of them.

G: Oh, yeah. I mean, I do remember that one time that a writer went to your school and asked you where you live, and you couldn't say, [C laughs] and she was like, "You should figure it out. You do live here, right?" [laughing]

C: She was- yeah. She was like, "Oh, did you just move here?" And I was like, "... No." And she was like, "Maybe you should look at a map sometime." [G laughing] And I was like, “Oh my god, I can't believe I was humiliated by Victoria Chang, author of Barbie Chang and also like, The Boss, which was the poetry book we were reading at hers." But yeah.

G: Yeah. Wonderful.

C: And then she signed my copy of The Boss with like, “Glad I got to help you get oriented” or something. Like, shut up, Victoria!

G: That's sweet, though. I feel like that's a more memorable experience than if she just went, "Hi! Sign. Bye!" you know?

C: I would rather have a neutral-

G: Now you are mortified for life! [laughing]

C: Yeah. Exactly. And it's so terrible because I was already discussing with my English teacher how I wanted her to fuck me so bad before this. [G laughs] Anyway.

G: Yeah. Crystal has a very normal reaction to people with authority.

C: [laughing] Shut up!

G: The podcasters need not know that. The podcast listeners need not know that.

C: Yeah, yeah.

G: But now they do!

C: I'm the authority in the podcast listener's mind. [G laughing]

G: Well. God, we are all over this episode. Well.

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C: Wait, you did not recognize him? At all?

G: Not at all. Not at all.

C: Lucas is like, not too minor of a minor character.

G: Yeah, no idea who it is.

C: You don't re- you don't remember House hiring a private investigator?

G: No. You know who I remember? The mouse?

C: Who?

G: Steve McQueen.

C: Oh my god, Steve McQueen! Wasn't Steve a rat?

G: Look. [laughs] I'm not a zoology major. [C laughs]

C: Yeah, it's a rat. He's a rat. Anyway.

G: Yeah. Love him.

C: Young Charlie does not look like BJA due to he is Lucas from House M.D., but perhaps with the absence of that.

G: I can't believe I watched House watch a rat Steve McQueen and still was like, "Yeah, that was a reference to the Cars movies." [both laugh] I mean, I just assumed that Steve McQueen, Dean Winchester-

C: I mean, he likes monster trucks. Is the Cars movies really that far from that?

G: Exactly! He loves a monster trucks show, so, you know.

C: Yeah.

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G: I want to fucking tell you about Hannibal. Can I? I'll just do it

C: Yeah.

G: We've been recording for so long anyway. Who give a shit? C: Who give a shit? Okay. Tell me about Hannibal.

G: 'Cause the thing is, throughout that season, Will was playing- was double-bluffing or whatever. It's like, he's on the FBI's side, but the way he's doing it, he is befriending Hannibal. Like, he's doing what Hannibal wants him to do. But then, as it goes on further, it becomes blurrier and blurrier which side he's actually betraying. And he was supposed to- and at the end of it, when he realizes that the FBI are probably gonna kill Hannibal or whatever, and they're supposed to run away together, 'cause that's the thing. They're supposed to run away together that night. And then, like, Will was thinking, "I wouldn't run away" or "We wouldn't run away together. I'm just gonna let the FBI kill him" or whatever. And then he realizes, like, "Oh, I can't do that." So he calls Hannibal and goes, "Run."

C: Uh-huh.

G: And the way Hannibal interpreted that was, like, demeaning. Like, he's taunting him or whatever. He didn't understand that Will wanted to run away with him or wanted to save him or whatever.

C: Ohh.

G: He thought that Will was- Will betrayed him, basically. And so him being like, [dramatic] "I gave you a gift! But you didn't want it!" Will was like, "No, I did, though. But you still gutted me and left me on the floor to bleed out, so. And also killed our-"

C: Daughter?

G: "- adopted daughter." Crazy, crazy show.

C: Yeah.

G: And next season, he tells someone, like, Will, "I wanted to run away with him that night, and in a way, I still want to do it." Like, bruh! At this point? [C laughs] But I support it.

C: Yeah. Yeah.

G: Hannibal's crazy. It's a crazy show. [C laughs] God, we need to watch it together! But I know you don't like- don't want to.

C: Well.

G: But we should. But we should. But you won't.

C: But I won't.

G: Maybe we can do a thing where I watch it and then I tell you about it, a la when you told me beat for beat everything that happens in-

C: The first episode of Interview with the Vampire. And then the rest of the episodes [laughs], so yes.

G: Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

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popsicle-parfait · 3 years ago

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❗This is a MAJOR rant, you're not obligated to interact and it if YOUR FAULT if you do so!❗

Warning: mentions of r❌pe

Please for the love of all things holy if I see ONE MORE "I'm the only girl in an all boy ____!" I'M GONNA SCREAM. THEY NEVER MAKE ANY SENSE!? Oh the school just became unisex and you're the only one to attend!? You're trying out the new unisex program for the future!? YOU'RE SO GOOD AT (INSERT SPORT) THEY LET YOU ON THE MALE TEAM!? YOU ACCIDENTALLY ENROLLED IN A BOYS SCHOOL BECAUSE YOUR NAME IS UNISEX AS IF THEY COULDN'T JUST LOOK AT YOUR STUDENT INFORMATION FOR YOUR GENDER/SEX!? "Oh no! I have to cross dress as a dude! I hope no one finds me!" THEN PROCEEDS TO QUEERBAIT IN THE FIC. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD THEY WANT TO GIVE F!READER A FUCKING HAREM SO DAMN BAD PLEEEAASEEE. AS IF YOU COULDN'T JUST APPLY BY NORMAL RULES AND GAVE SOME BACKSTORY AS TO WHY THE READER HANGS OUT WITH THEIR HAREM INSTEAD OF "IM THE ONLY GIRL IN A ROOM OF BOYS!" another thing tho! THE BEST FRIEND TROPE! Not the bitch peer pressuring the reader into dating someone they probably don't even like/know! "If you don't confess to him I WILL" BITCH PLEASE I DARE YOU I'LL DROP YOUR ASS, CONTACT DELETED HOE. "omg! Why are you looking at that guy? DO YOU LIKE HIM?" HONEY, I STARE AT SPIDERS CUZ THEY OFFEND ME, DO I LIKE THEM TOO!? " Dude you two would look great together, DATE👹" MA'AM YOU CANNOT HOOK PEOPLE UP JUST BECAUSE OF YOUR WEIRD SHIPPING FETISH, YOU ARE ONE STEP AWAY FROM BEING A 2016 FUJOSHI "yaoi is love, yaoi is life😩" HEADASS. Next thing you know they're like "omg! Let me help y'all get together!" WEE🚨WOO🚔 HELLO!? RED FLAGS PEOPLE 🚩No, VANESSA I DON'T WANT YOU AND TOUR FRIEND TODD TO SPY ON US WHILE WE DO A HUNTING PERIOD. SOMEONE NEEDS TO REALISE THIS STUFF ISN'T OKAY! "but it's a cute friendship thing!-"NO IT'S REALLY NOT. WHERE DID THESE STEREOTYPES COME FROM!? WHO'S FRIENDS ARE LIKE THIS, GET NEW ONES. AND BEFORE I FORGET THIS ONE! "omg you should come to this party even though it's not in your comfort zone!" "idk man I don't really-" " who cares! You're going anyways!" *2 mins later reader gets almost r❌ped* "Omg I can't believe that happened!?" HOW DO YOU- H U H!? PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THIS IS A COMMON STEREOTYPE!

Also!

Men ≠ Top

Women ≠ Bottom

This can be interpreted in two different ways;

There DOES NOT have to be a "man" and a "woman" in a relationship, you can be two subs and still be perfectly fine. No one HAS to take on a more masculine character/role, if the relationship works like that then fine but all I'm saying is that there doesn't have to be set roles in a relationship whether it be irl or in a fanfic.

TALL MEN CAN BOTTOM AND I STAND BY THIS. WOMEN CAN TOP AND STILL GET FUCKED THAT IS WHY DOM AND SUB EXIST BECAUSE NOT EVERYONE IS THE SAME. I hate the weird rule where "the tall person is the top" or "you can't be cute if you top" PLEASE💀The bottom in a fanfic doesn't always have to be a femboy who never learned what sex was, get that outta you head please. Being a bottom doesn't mean you're an innocent flower who cries over spilt milk. What's that one manhwa term, white lotus? White lily? THAT. LOOK THAT UP AND YOU'LL KNOW WHAT I MEAN. REMINDER, There is nothing wrong with being a femboy or whatever I'm just saying that there shouldn't be specific standards for what a relationship is. YOU COULD LOOK LIKE HUNNI FROM OHSHC AND STILL HAVE A BIG DICK AND TOP THE SHIT OUT OF YOUR S/O.

In conclusion, stereotypes suck. Real. Bad.

Also if I get a comment telling me to take down this post without giving me a real reason I won't even bother with you.

#male reader #male reader insert #x male reader #nb reader #gender neutral reader #gn reader #non binary reader

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twst-drabbles · 2 years ago

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Hello my fav twisted wonderland authour ever. My love for you and your stories are never ending. Your horror writing is top notch and much better than what some multimillion horror franchise could ever hope to be. I absolutely love your oc the big whale guy and your concepts are very creative and amazing. You are severely underrated and i think you should do whatever the hell you want if you desire to do so. W + ur awesome + fuck burnout + sending you hugs and love /platonic

Ur aus have given me brainworms on multiple accounts and kept me awake at night thinking about them. I like ur darker content and ur the only one who writes yandere correctly and thats very cool and awesome of you.

Are you ok? My messages are always open if you need someone to talk to. Tell me what ideas you have. The ones you were talking about in ur latest post sound very interesting and i would love to hear about them if you feel like telling.

Also another thing i really like about your writing is you rarely use pronouns or names thats really cool of you.

Hehehehehe, I'm going to screen shot this and look at it later when I'm feeling in a real bad mood! Excuse my rambling.

Horror was something I loved all my life, I grew up watching Courage the Cowardly Dog and loving the ever loving fuck out of it! And eventually I was introduced to the concept of cosmic horror, which I really loved cause there's a whole lot of freedom to it, as cosmic horror doesn't rely on small spaces and singular locations to have that fear. Cosmic horror is ever looming. No matter where you go, you won't escape it's watch. Or, perhaps it doesn't care at all. It doesn't care for you, not will it care for your death. Or perhaps they care too much, but they will never understand what humans like.

And as for the ok part, I have to say that it's getting colder in my part of the woods, so I've been pretty lethargic. Depression gets heavier during these times. So, while my brain is going "Eh, could be worse," logically, I know I'm not okay. I know this state I'm in is not normal, but emotionally, my brain does not see it? Does that make sense? Apathetic depression is weird like that.

Hehehehe I'm glad you noticed the lack of pronouns and names used! Growing up, I've been quite used to reading reader inserts that are female with she/her pronouns, mostly because I was under the impression that that was all there was. And any of the male reader inserts I found were, uh, well you could usually tell they weren't written by men by the use of (M/N) and all that, and tends to reflect troupes found in the popular yaoi genre, which I'm not really into.

And then I got introduced to gender neutral reader inserts and interactive fiction. I have not gone back. My little brain go to work and I just had to adopt that style of reader insert writing. So, here I am, many years later, with this blog.

...

I'm actually getting started on making that blog to dump all my ideas in. Right now, all the ideas I have aren't exactly set in stone, they're just feelings, you get me? Most of these ideas I have are actually based off of dreams I had, so I just decided to turn them into reader inserts.

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Hello! I'm writing this ask because I wanted to correct something (not you, but a common error). It's about the sentence from Chap 24 where Bond said he had to perform a "role". The same sentence anti-trans James Bond people use to prouve that he is only playing a man. Bond never said he has to perform a role but he said "to be a useful to Al and Will, I need to feel integrated in the group"

The word "role" was never mentionned in the Japanese nor French official translation.

Same for Moran's sentence " you're pretending to be someone you're not" He never said it. He said "I don't know if you'll do good during missions"

This makes me wonder what the person who translated thinks about Bond's gender... these aren't translations, these are changed sentences on purpose.

(Ps: I love all your metas!!)

THANK YOU!

This is exactly what I mean, as a non Japanese reader it's very hard to know which translation is accurate considering even the official translation will often remove aspects like familiarity (Sherlock calling William by his given name and not the nickname on the train etc) so it's incredibly easy for the translator bias to trickle in. Even what Moran and Bond said in the altered text isn't necessarily anti trans unless you're specifically looking to read it as anti trans.

And I've seen this before, I was in this isekai fandom and when that was at its peak the popular ship was between a guy and his godfather because they fit the whole popular at the time yaoi visual aesthetic and so the anime and manga played up their interactions, completely changed dialogues and events. The anime even made the canonical mlm character into this obnoxious gay joke (the mc is engaged to said mlm character) and since the fandom was so aggressively bent towards the godson/godfather ship they refused to actually translate the main source novels that favored the mc and his fiancé, either only translating snippets that focussed on their ship or reframed entire paragraphs and key sections of the text to make it appear that the important moments were shared between their prefered ship.

Sorry for the tangent I am just shook about how people go so far as to change things up because of ships or fear of any LGBT rep invading their pure Christian cishet spaces. YuuMori is a well written story and even with the translation fumbles you can tell that it foreshadows a lot through its use of language so for the language to be altered so heavily can affect ideas but at the same time I've literally seen people say Alisha and Sorey from Zesty were obviously meant to be canon endgame because they shook hands once while Sorey is clearly not gay for his bestie who he describes as being a porcelain skinned beauty with sophisticated violet eyes and hair like aquamarine. It just goes to show that people will actively ignore anything and read too far into certain lines to prove their point even if their proof has no real foundation.

And thank you for reading my meta anon, I'm lonely in this pandemic and my brain is too full of YuuMori thoughts and tumblr has become my outlet, so I'm genuinely glad that people like to read my ramblings. ❤❤

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ereri-lost-and-found · 4 years ago

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Hello! Can you help me to search ereri fanfic (top eren) where levi being idol/band member of no name?

Hi, @ilya2212

Here’s what we found for you~

No Name by anime_nympho (Rated E, 41,044 words, multichapter, ongoing)

Eren has always been obsessive over the band No Name. Well more to the point, he is completely obsessed with their sexy singer L. Will Eren ever find out the identity of the star that seems to have stolen a piece of his soul? Levi has always been the lone star on stage. Well better said, L only sees his fans as pawns for his own amusement. Will L discover the pawn he picked is in fact a queen before it captures his heart? Ereri/Riren. Mature graphic yaoi content in later chapters.

Hitched & Ditched by SimplyTsundere (Rated E, 57,364 words, multichapter, complete)

Pilot Eren Jaeger has woken up in a hotel room with someone he doesn't know after a night he doesn't remember. When he catches the wedding ring gleaming on his guest's finger but realizes he has to be flying a plane in 30 minutes he has no time for investigating. Just before he leaves he sees his own wedding band secured around his finger and remembers a fake chapel. Once his co-pilot tells him that the chapel is a real wedding he flips and must learn that he drunkenly married a stranger who's only identifying marks were the tattoos on his skin.

Eren must track down rockstar Levi Ackerman, the front man of Sub Rosa, who he discovers is the man from the hotel and the man he married according to the state of New Jersey. How he will get close to a celebrity he doesn't know but Jean Kirschtein, his copilot and close friend, is there to help. Together they have to stalk a rock band to get the vocalist to sign Eren's annulment papers.

Deny Me, Lie to Me by Unravels (Rated E, 166,018 words, multichapter, complete)

Levi Ackerman is the frontman for the hit band No Name, operating under the pseudonym "L". His bandmates, Hange and Miche, all enjoy their private lives, and keep their identities under wraps; the fact that the mysterious secrecy boosts their sales is just an added bonus. On a fateful night in a twisted chain of events, Levi finds himself arrested and in need of a lawyer.

Enter Eren Jaeger, young, successful, and famous celebrity lawyer. The man is the definition of perfection; charitable, kind, and in possession of sarcastic wit. He has loving, successful (if a tad extremely conservative) parents, a beautiful actress as a girlfriend, and a profitable career.

The problem? Eren is straight as an arrow, and Levi is thirsty for that ass. Everything, however, is not as it seems, and the entire situation becomes convoluted at a rapid pace. They're on a rollercoaster, and the tracks break off into nothingness at the end of the ride. Can they survive the whirlwind that is each other?

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shinahbee · 4 years ago

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Premonition of future events

Hello!

so I wasn’t going to post anything this week since i’m currently working on something for next week, but this has something to do with what I’m planning to post next week so i thought I would share my thoughts.

so as you may be aware if you have read my monthly favorites posts for a while that I have been delving into BL- yaoi manhwa/manga and have been recommending some in those favorites. one of which I have not discussed yet, mainly because I have been saving it for Feb favorites so look forward to that when it comes out!

and I have been following some of the manhwa creators twitter just to see upcoming projects and updates on the current manhwa I am reading, I follow the creator of this manhwa called “ pearl boy” on twitter and she drew something today that really interested me and I decided to break down the symbolism within the art piece. If you have not read this manhwa, none of this will make any sense to you, but i’ll explain it in detail next week when I finish my art.

I love symbolism and foreshadowing within a story and this picture she drew is just that, given the events leading up to this point and I really wanted to take this apart and see what I can come up with.

if you have read this than please bare with me, these are my thoughts only and how i interpret the art from the creator and has nothing to do with how she portrayed her art work, so just a disclaimer. I'm just doing this for fun.

i’ll link her twitter post here:

https://twitter.com/inking_zoy/status/1363278273476579329

and i’ll post the picture here, this is from her twitter so all rights belong to inking_zoy, the author/ artist of pearl boy

like i mentioned above, if you have not read the story then this will not make sense to any of you,but basically the guy in the left is named doshik, the guy in the middle is thier boss...i forgot his name..they both call him boss so we will keep it a that, the guy on the right is named Juha, so i’ll refer to them with these names. It is a little hard interpret this picture without knowing details about the story which is still not revealed yet, we see glimpses of the events through juha’s flash backs, so before that, the story starts off with doshik apparently running away from people looking for him cause he stole someones money and fled to the country side, he ended up having spent all his money and didn't even have any to buy food, he then stumbled across a seafood hot pot place and wanted to try eating and running, there in the shop was the owner “ boss” and juha who is working as a server and cook. the boss noticed him being weird and told juha to keep an eye on doshik cause he might bail from paying for his food, and that honestly was going to happen until juha confronted him and asked to payback with labor, it wasn't addressed as to what doshik did as a living before fleding to the country side but he did work at pub so i believe he was a host / sex worker or just a host that does sexual favors, so when juha told him to pay back the money he owed with his “ body” he thought he meant sex. There was a series of events both very terrible and unfortunate to serendipitous that happened between juha and dooshik in their entanglement with each other and with the “ boss “ as well.

so it goes Boss ----> sexual abuse juha by making him work as a sex toy for old ugly bastards -----> juha has ability to produce pearls from his body...guess how. lol. i’m sorry this seems so absurd, but it is how the story goes, which the boss monopolizes him -----> juha can’t run away because he is scared and owes boss money ----> juha was about to be assaulted by the ugly bastards ---> doshik shows up and saves him a couple times and ends up working at the shop as a co worker----> juha and doshik get to know each other after doshik saves him a couple times -----> juha asks doshik to have sex with him ( in order to produce pearls for debt payment) ----> doshik discovers juha’s ability but thought it was beads coming out of his body...LOL. he actually thought he had kidney stones and was genuinely concerned -----> doshik had a pearl that he found at the beach earlier on and used it to compare to the bead that came out of juha and found out it as an actual pearl after getting it appraised by the bank person ----> juha met up with doshik and wanted to tell him he wanted to be sex partners cause he liked doing it with him ----> juha and boss confront each other and boss is angry he didn't show up meet his business partners that night that juha and doshik were together -----> juha says that he’s only going to pay it off by himself with his one partner, he didn't tell boss it was doshik, but i think he found out later.

alright that seems good enough as to where we are right now, i hope my summary made sense for the most part. Now getting back to the drawing let’s take it apart, so there is a body of water that divides juha and doshik, with the boss being in the middle. The boss is holding juha tight and some people may interpret this as him having feelings for juha. I don’t think that is the case, the reason why i believe he is holding him and not letting go is because he wants to monopolize him for his self gain, not for the sake of feelings, but to make sure that he is the only person he will be able to turn to. juha can produce pearls and he owes him money and he is using that to gain profit, that’s honestly all i see since his interactions with people strictly revolves around business deals, so once he found out that doshik might know of juha’s ability he began to come up with ways to remove them from each other, because he thinks if doshik knows the money that can come from the pearls he will use it to profit himself.

of course us as readers knows doshik is not like that and that he genuinely cares for juha. so Juha is separated by the boss holding on to him and it is symbolic to the events of his past being forced into a situation he can’t get out of. if you have watched any anime or drama , there is usually a scene where a person drowns, what do you think happens then when you drown? the obvious, you can’t breathe, you get light headed, your consciousnesses slips away, you feel cold, your surrounded by nothing but silence and darkness the deeper you sink. The boss is like a rock pushing juha further down the abyss and drowning him essentially, he made a comment in the newest chapter saying that “ you can never get away from me no matter how hard you try”. which says a lot about his obsession towards juha. This probably made juha feel like he will always be alone and everything he did will always be hopeless. 🤬

But as we all know there’s always a person who comes and rescues a drowning person at the last second before they become unconscious, which is why in the drawing juha is not completely submerged in water and his face is still on the surface of the water. And as we see doshik is on the other side of that division and is symbolic of life and living, where as when you drown only death awaits you. Doshik is also affectionately kissing and holding juha’s hand as if to say “ i’m here for you, we will get through this together” and is the only thing that is keeping juha from letting everything go and drown in his situation. This can also be interpreted as doshik giving air to juha as well which makes sense in the context of drowning. You can also use light and darkness as symbolism to this piece as well, the light being the surface and doshik who appears on the other side and in contrast the boss being in darkness beneath the water. Need less to say there’s so much symbolism in this one picture and it made me want write how i interpret this from what i’ve read so far and how it relates to how this is portrayed. I also find it ironic that in the early chapters doshik did actually almost drown and it was juha that chased after him and got him out when he fell unconscious in the water...and this picture here makes me believe that doshik will in turn save juha from drowning in his sorrows in the upcoming continuation of the story.

well that’s all that I wanted to say, I hope what I wrote made sense and that you understood for the most part why i believe this is a premonition of whats to come. Most people who don’t know this story will just think its a picture of three dudes having a threesome and that is not it.lol. I’m curious as to how other people interpret this, i’ve read one so far and she had a similar analogy to how i interpreted the art, so i guess i’m not too far off.

hopefully you all enjoyed reading this, it was fun for me, since I’m currently bleeding out of my ass and procrastinating doing other things and a little pissy from having certain stupid memes flooding my Instagram. I hope you all are interested in reading pearl boy after this if you have not...obviously be over the age of 18 since it does deal with mature themes!

hope you enjoyed reading! give this a like if you want to see my fan art for this series next week!

see you all then.

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Steven Universe: The Fantastic Mutants chapter 5: Never Again (originally posted on November 16, 2020)

AN: Good to see you all again my dear readers! How have things been? Am I being too intrusive? Well, doesn't matter! It's good to be back in business after a few weeks, so let's just cut to the chase, shall we?

"So how much of this show is actual camping?" HYDRA Bob asked Peridot as they, along with Deadpool & Lapis, watched Camp Pining Hearts together at the X-Mansion while surrounded by massive amounts of snack foods and garbage. "A fair bit, but pretty much everyone comes for the romance," Peridot answered. "Yeah," Wade stated. "like your crippling yaoi addiction."

"What is yah-oy?" Lapis asked while mispronouncing this new word just as Pearl came in with a broom. "You really should learn how to pick up after yourselves as guests." The Gem grumbled while sweeping up crumbs off the carpet. "Hey, wise up Pearl, I'm basically an honorary member!" Deadpool remarked. "Hey, Flat-Top, gimme a refill on my coke here!"

"And you should also treat the people housing you like friends, not your servants." Colossus reminded them, just as disgruntled as Pearl, while he gave the Merc with a Mouth another bottle of pop when suddenly, Xavier came in. "Ah, Professor! Would you be so kind as to help us teach Wade here some manners?"

"It's alright, Piotr." Xavier calmed the metal mutant down. "Although Mr. Wilson here can be a bit of a nuisance, we do need all the help we can get to rescue Steven and Kitty."

"Thanks for the save Cap'n." Wade grinned at the aged mutant when someone knocked at the window. "Hey, anyone in there?!" the voice of Spider-Man called from outside, latching upside down onto the glass. "Peter!" Pearl exclaimed. "Long time no see. How are the other Avengers doing?"

"The big six are off in space right now, and the reserves are holding down the fort for now." The web-slinger answered as he opened the window and leaped through it. "When your message reached us, I was the first to take it and brought along a few pals who might be useful."

As Peter finished talking, a silver and blue blur burst through the front doors, stopping to reveal itself as Quicksilver. "Pietro, good to see you!" Colossus exclaimed. "Must mean Wanda isn't too far behind, da?"

"You are correct." Scarlet Witch answered as she followed her brother. "Hello again Crystal Gems." She greeted the Gems. "Hello to you and Pietro too, Wanda," Garnet replied as she stepped into the room. "It certainly has been a while since Thanos. I hope you both are well."

"Oh, never better Garney!" Quicksilver responded as he sat down between Peridot & Lapis to watch Camp Pining Hearts with them. "Ooh, I love this show! I always felt Pierre & Percy have really good chemistry."

"Thank you for agreeing with me good sir." Peridot added pridefully. "Oh, quit with the shit already!" Wade interjected crossly. "No one ever talks about Pierre and Paulette!"

"You take that back, you crimson clod." Peridot snarled threateningly at the mercenary and soon, an intense shipping debate between the two began. "Oh, this could take a long while." Pearl sighed in exhaustion.

"I just watch for all the crazy shenanigans these campers get up to." Spider-Man gave his opinion while snatching some snicker-doodles from the ottoman.

"Come on, work!" Kitty groaned in frustration as she continuously tried and failed to break her and Steven from their imprisonment without using her mutant powers. "If only I could find a way to break this collar, then we'd get outta here easier."

"Why don't I give it a shot?" Steven suggested, deciding to use his shield to cut the bars apart. However, that failed as well. "It's hopeless. If I didn't come, then maybe we wouldn't be stuck here."

"Hey, don't beat yourself up like that Steven." Kitty comforted her fellow mutant. "I'm sure the Gems are already on their way to save us, so try and keep your chin up until then." She implored Steven, but he remained downtrodden. "Let's face it; we're here because of my mom."

"Oh, mother issues?" Kitty realized. "I get it. That's perfectly normal. But you can't always let the sins of the parent bring you down." She assured him. "Yeah, sins like taking part in universal genocide before realizing that wasn't good and instead doing things far worse than that." Steven grumbled, much to her surprise. "Whoa okay, didn't see that coming!" Kitty exclaimed. "Far worse how? Did she actually murder someone?"

"She deliberately left tons of Gems and other races to die for her just because she was bored of being Pink Diamond, let two of my friends to be imprisoned for thousands of years, forced Gems who cared for her to suffer from her faked death and who knows what else!" Steven complained. "And then there was that whole thing with Magneto."

As if on cue, the aforementioned leader of the Brotherhood of Mutants stepped into the brig to interrogate them. "I see you've been making yourselves at home while you could." He declared before grabbing Steven by the shirt collar through the cell bars. "Tell me boy, why do you have her gemstone? Was it passed down to you?"

"As a matter of fact, yes." Steven answered. "When I was born, my mom died to give birth to me, and I got her gemstone and all her powers as a result. She also left me with all her baggage from ages ago, including when she was once a member of the Great Diamond Authority."

"Great Diamond Authority?" Magneto wondered, and Kitty seemed just as confused. "Yeah, I have to agree. There are more Diamonds out there?"

"That's not important right now," Steven said before Magneto set him down. "Still, why go after me in particular? We're both mutants. We should be on the same side!"

"You already know about how Rose abandoned me at Auschwitz, but the Gems only told you half the story," Erik revealed, turning away from Steven & Kitty in the process. "My part of this tale is far more complex than you realize. Like many a Jew during the war, I was prosecuted by the Nazis for my religion and sentenced to death. But I was a special case."

Heavy rain poured upon Poland in 1944 as a large group of imprisoned Jews marched sorrowfully through Auschwitz, their world nothing but drab colors aside from the bright yellow Star of David on their clothes signifying their religion. All around them, more of their people were forced to perform possibly lethal jobs for their superiors and be treated horribly should they fail to work or try to resist.

One young man in particular named Erik Lehnsherr watched just as miserably as his fellow Jews and began to notice that many of the other prisoners had brands on their arms. As soldiers began coldly leading their prisoners away from the group, Erik's parents Edie & Jacob were forcefully separated like the rest from their son, with Edie being particularly hysterical about having to leave her child.

Erik raced after his parents in an effort to see them one last time, but the gates closed before he could get a chance, and another Nazi grabbed the boy to keep him under control. However, something miraculous happened. When Erik fruitlessly reached out towards the gate, it began bending towards him. Another Nazi aided his fellow soldier in detaining the boy, and two more raced towards him as the fence began twisting more and more.

Erik's mutant powers awakened that day as the gates were ripped open with a mere stretch of his hand, but he was quickly stopped with the butt of a gun to his head from a fifth soldier. "Bring ihn zu Dr. Schmidt." that soldier commanded his subordinates. The four Nazis nodded and dragged the unconscious boy away, to where his destiny would soon be realized.

"And that's where you first met his mom, right?" Kitty asked her captor. "Yeah, I don't think we need to hear how she ditched you again."

"As I stated, the story is much deeper than that," Magneto said. "Allow me to continue."

Soon, HYDRA had come to assist the Nazis in stopping the Howling Commandos and the Crystal Gems from instigating the Auschwitz breakout. As Rose began fighting off soldiers, she began counting off the fleeing Jews. "Let me see how many we got," Rose muttered while trying to do a headcount. "Agh, there's too many of them! I can barely keep count when I'm surrounded like this!"

"Less than a million!" Garnet counted for her leader with her future vision. "However, there are still a few that we were too late to save, namely the Lehnsherr family. Klaus Schmidt is holding their son Erik."

"Klaus?" Rose soon came to a realization. "That was the boy in the office! I have to go ba-" Before Rose could finish, a HYDRA enforcer took advantage of her letting her guard down and fired with an anti-Gem weapon, poofing her form.

"Rose!" Pearl exclaimed while rushing to the deactivated gem lying on the ground. While Captain America covered for them with his shield, the Gems made a hasty retreat. "But what about those other Jews?!" Amethyst exclaimed. "A few prisoners should take this from here." Garnet answered, just as the Sonderkommando charged at their captors with guns, knives, axes, and grenades.

Inside the building where Klaus Schmidt was stationed, the mutant Jew slithered around the hall to avoid being caught again. Nazis raced outside to combat without once taking notice of the boy making his escape. Taking a moment to peek outside the window, he noticed the Gems escaping the concentration camp and furrowed his brow angrily. "Sie haben mich verlassen."

As the warfare continued, Erik quietly made his getaway with his newly awakened mutant powers and used a wrecked chain fence to fly himself away from Auschwitz.

Many years later in 1963, Magneto was holding a demonstration in New York to make a speech about the superiority of mutants when she showed up again. Rose Quartz had decided to show her face to him again after leaving him to rot all those years ago in Auschwitz, and only now, she shows up with an excuse to try and make peace.

"You can try to rope yourself into my good graces all you want Gems," he growled, preparing to fight the Crystal Gems. "But nothing can ever change the past!"

Ripping a nearby water tower off its supports, Erik prepared to smash it on top of Rose, Garnet & Pearl, but then came a loud shriek coming from the Irish mutant Sean Cassidy, aka Banshee. "Top o' the mornin' to you ladies!" Banshee exclaimed and let out another scream that brought the master of magnetism to the ground. "Now Neal!"

"I got you!" the Indian pyrokinetic Neal Shaara, or Thunderbird to his teammates, boomed while turning his body into plasma and landing a few hits on Magneto, but the German fought back by expanding a force-field that pushed him back. "Longshot, Angel, Mimic, it's all you now!"

"You got it!" Longshot replied while standing on a rooftop with Mimic and Angel Salvadore and preparing to throw a large knife at Magneto. "Just got one shot at this." He muttered to himself just as Amethyst hopped up behind him. "Hey, what you guys doing?" she asked the three mutants, catching Longshot off-guard. "Do you mind squirt?!" Longshot barked, but then he noticed her gem. "Say, you wouldn't happen to know those three, right?"

"We can discuss it later!" Angel said while sprouting fly-like wings and flying off. "Hey, wait for me!" Mimic exclaimed, copying his teammate's ��power by growing insect wings of his own and soaring after her.

"You guys wouldn't happen to be like ol' Maggy over there?" Amethyst continued asking Longshot, who harshly shushed her while trying to keep his concentration. "Okay, sheesh!"

"Now Longshot!" Banshee exclaimed as he let out a loud shriek at Magneto to knock him off-balance, allowing Longshot to fling his knife at the evil mutant. But Erik stopped the blade before it could reach his face with his powers and threw it right at Pearl with a wicked grin.

"Pearl, no!" Rose cried out as she dove in front of her confidant, letting the knife stab her instead, causing her to ultimately poof and retreat into her gem.

"Rose!" the remaining Gems shouted, racing to protect their leader's inactive gemstone from Magneto. "Well, that should do nicely for now." He snidely muttered. "But know this Crystal Gems, we shall meet again someday soon. Even if we have to wait years to do so!"

With that, Magneto zoomed off into the sky and left the Crystal Gems & the X-Men below. "So, sorry about letting your boss end up like this." Longshot nervously apologized. "That was my knife he threw at her after all."

"It's alright. Rose will recover soon." Garnet assured the mutant. "By the way, I didn't get your name."

"Call me Longshot, leader of the X-Men!" Longshot proudly replied. "These are my teammates; Banshee, Mimic, Angel Salvadore, and Thunderbird. We're all mutants."

"It is a pleasure to meet you." Thunderbird greeted, extending a hand to Pearl. "Mutants? I think I remember meeting one, centuries ago." Pearl replied, shaking Neal's hand. "You wouldn't happen to know anyone named En Sabah Nur?"

This revelation caused the X-Men to gasp in shock. "Wait, you met Apocalypse?!" Mimic cried. "Let me guess, you guys know him as a real bad guy?" Amethyst quipped. "Yeah, he's about yay tall, superiority complex, total Darwinist." Angel replied. "Come along. We can tell you more about him."

"And maybe we'll introduce you to the professor too." Banshee added happily. "We'd be glad to meet your professor." Pearl agreed, and Garnet & Amethyst nodded as well.

"So that's how the Gems met Xavier!" Steven realized. "But how come you remember that last bit happening? You left after poofing Rose."

"Don't think about it." Magneto assured him. "And now that I have you in our clutches, watching Doctor Doom experiment on you will be so satisfying."

"But still, you can't just vent your vengeance on a kid!" Kitty exclaimed.

"Yeah, this isn't what Xavier would want!" Steven replied, forcing Magneto to drop his stoic façade. "He knows you can be better than this, barring the terrorism. You're both on the same wavelength when it comes to protecting mutants, but kidnapping one of your own for your own sake is just wrong!"

"Y'know, that does seem like something Charles would say. Though he would've said it better." Magneto relented, pressing a button on the cell to let Steven and Kitty out. "Fight them off while you still can children. I shall take the blame myself."

"Okay Steven, let's get outta here!" Kitty declared excitedly. "And no matter what happens, I got your back!"

"Actually Kit, I think I got yours." Steven replied, just as another door opened, and Mystique stepped into the brig. "Erik! Why have you let the prisoners out?" she asked Magneto. "It was the boy who convinced me." Erik revealed. "As it turns out, he's quite good at turning people to his side."

"Well, you're too late child." Mystique said to Steven. "We have finally landed in Latveria."

The Crystal Gems, X-Men, Fantastic Four, X-Force, Spider-Man, Scarlet Witch, and Quicksilver all marched to the Blackbird, ready to go out to Latveria and save Steven & Kitty. Human Torch and Cyclops were in charge of piloting the plane while Xavier planted his wheelchair in the back.

"So tell us what we're in for Reed." Garnet asked Mister Fantastic, who gave a sharp sigh of regret. "You should know by now that Doctor Doom is our family's greatest adversary. Intelligence on par with my own, mastery of the mystic arts, psionic abilities, the works." Reed explained. "But what I'm sure you probably don't know yet was that we knew Doom long before he turned out like this."

"Victor, have you gone mad?!" a younger Reed yelled at his college classmate Victor, who was standing in front of a large machine generating an unstable portal. "This machine is highly unstable and could explode at any moment!"

"I do not care what it takes, Richards!" the man who would be king of Latveria cried as the machine was on the verge of self-destructing. "This is the only way I can see my mother again!"

"Hey Stretch, we got everyone outta here!" Ben Grimm, back then a normal human being instead of a large rock creature, called for his classmate while he, Johnny and Sue burst into the laboratory. "You gotta come with us!"

"No Reed, we can see our mothers again, together!" Doom tried convincing his rival. Reed hesitated for a moment, weighing his options between escaping with his friends or getting to see his late mother Evelyn again. But as he made his decision, he turned away from Victor. "I'm sorry Vic. But I've moved on."

"How dare you?!" Victor screeched, while his four contemporaries fled the scene. "Don't you dare run away! We could've been something more!" Just then, the portal machine has just about reached its boiling point, and caused the lab to explode with Doom inside. The last thing he said before the room collapsed on him was a scream of "RIIIIIIIIICHAAAAAAAARDS!"

"Never saw him again after that incident. Ol' Iron Mask got expelled, then he just vanished offa the face of the planet." Ben regaled in the present day. "That is until he re-emerged as some young upstart billionaire named Victor Domashev, who funded the space flight that made us into the Four we are today."

"Hey guys, less backstory, more blasting off!" Amethyst snapped her fingers. "Pretty sure Steven might be on his way to being dissected by now!"

"Yeah, and a certain author friend of ours wants to get this out as quickly as possible." Deadpool agreed, his medium-aware comment inciting odd stares from the others. "Can we move onto the next scene already?!"

As Mystique had declared, Steven was now in the European country of Latveria, famously ruled by the Fantastic Four's arch-nemesis Victor von Doom. He and Kitty were led through the aesthetically medieval capital city Doomstadt, where its citizens whispered in German, Hungarian and an unknown third language reminiscent of the latter dialect.

"Victor, we have brought the child. And an unwanted guest." Mystique announced in front of Doom's castle as they crossed the drawbridge. The castle was guarded by numerous robot soldiers that bore Doom's face, all of them giving Steven cold and unfeeling glares as he was finally brought before the man who's face the robots bore.

"Steven Universe." Doctor Doom boomed, resting on his throne while the boy was handcuffed in front of him. "I have heard much about you these past few months child. Erik, I must commend you for getting the job done, although I've heard of your possible betrayal and won't tolerate it." Then Doom turned to Mystique. "Thank you Ms. Darkholme for alerting me of this before you arrived.

"You are most kind Doctor." Mystique thanked him with a bow. "We hope you return your end of the bargain and grant us mutants sanctuary in Latveria."

"Raven, you must listen!" Magneto cried to his second in command. "This boy calls himself a mutant, just like us! We can't just let Victor experiment on him like this. What if he has something else planned?!"

"SILENCE!" the king of Latveria roared. "It seems this child has made you soft Mr. Lehnsherr. No matter." He rose from his throne and stepped towards Steven & Kitty to give them a good look. "He shall become useful to me soon. And as for the girl, take her away."

"Yes your Highness." Mystique complied, snapping her fingers to have Juggernaut take Kitty away.

"Hey, put me down!" Kitty hissed, struggling to break free from the massive mutant's hands, which was easier said than done since her powers were still restrained. "Don't worry Steven, I'll find a way to save you!"

"Ah shaddup!" Juggernaut groaned loudly, stuffing a big finger inside the smaller girl's mouth to keep her quiet when Mystique put a hand on his bicep. "And what do you want Bluey?"

"It's about Erik. We may resort to terrorism to fight for mutant rights, but I think allowing a child to be experimented on may be going a bit too far." Raven whispered to Cain while they moved farther away from Doom. "Besides, he is a mutant much like us."

"So I've heard." The Juggernaut muttered. "But shouldn't he count more as an alien because his momma was one?"

When the Brotherhood mutants left the throne room, Steven was left all alone with Magneto and Doom. "What do you want with me Doom?" Steven asked the king. "Was it really necessary to have the Brotherhood kidnap me when you could've had your robots do it?"

"Why I couldn't have just sent my Doombots doesn't matter." Doom declared. "But what does matter is what I want to do to you. You see, you're special Steven, as you probably know. A being who's a mixture of human and alien DNA, and that alien DNA might prove very important to me." He explained to Steven. "I wish to use those genes for my own ends. Perhaps make an army of similar beings, or perhaps become part-Gem myself to gain ultimate power! Which is why I chose you in particular."

"Doctor, an invading ship is approaching Doomstadt." A Doombot announced as it walked into the throne room. "Shall we send out the reinforcements you selected?"

"You may, #1961." Doom replied, pressing a few buttons on his arms that opened a door, and behind it were four supervillains.

Trapster, a man in goggles with a container of glue-like substance on his back, attached to a hose with a gun at the end.

Mole Man, a deformed midget in a green suit with a blue visor who was holding a staff in his hand.

The Puppet Master, a bald, dark-skinned man accompanied by a pair of human-sized marionettes in the shape of the Human Torch and the Thing, that he controlled with a special remote.

And the Wizard, a purple armor-wearing supergenius who floated in the air with special anti-gravity discs.

"Frightful Four, it seems we have some uninvited guests." Doom revealed to the four villains. "I insist you deal with them at once, while I make my little guest here at home."

"Yes Doctor." The Frightful Four said in unison, then the marched out of the throne room to battle. Once again Steven was alone in the throne room with Victor & Erik, and the former was all too eager to get things started.

"Now then, shall we begin testing?" Doom asked Steven maliciously, and Steven replied with a very nervous gulp.

After three months of work, it's finally done! We're getting close to the end of this guys, and I couldn't be more excited. But for now, I think I'm gonna take a little break to focus on college stuff for a bit, and I'll be back soon with not just a new chapter, but also a brand spankin' new Steven Universe tale I've had on the brain for a while. It's an AU rewrite of Steven Universe Future aptly named Steven Universe: Alternate Future. If you want to know more about this upcoming series, I've already got an entire episode list on my DeviantArt page along with drawings of some original characters created for it. Until we meet again, toodle-oo!

In Loving Memory of Sean Connery

1930-2020

& Alex Trebek

1940-2020

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hyphypmic · 5 years ago

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Jiro: Coming Out

Anon asked: Hello! Could I ask for a coming out scenario, with Jiro introducing his boyfriend to his brothers? When he said he isn't really interested in girls, my gay ass naturally went "!!!"

Well, let’s go!

Jiro was so fucking nervous, like not even a joke. His hands were trembling, his breathing was coming in short gasps and honestly, the world was crashing down on him.

However, he resolved he would do it today. He wouldn’t change his mind at the last minute, not when his brothers were already at their favourite ice cream shop and he had just ran back to the corner.

Jiro gripped his boyfriend’s hand and looked at him nervously. “I’m so...” Jiro swallowed and took a step forward, bringing Shouto with him. It was like a million miles to the door of the shop. Really, Jiro was on the verge of panicking, only a voice (that sounded suspiciously like Saburo’s) that was saying that he shouldn’t be a coward was the one that was pushing him forward.

Shouto was shaking as well, but he squeezed Jiro’s hand. “We’ll be fine.” He kissed Jiro’s hand softly. “Whatever happens.”

Jiro nodded and ran his hand through his hair. “Okay.” He swallowed again as they stopped in front of the ice cream store. “Here goes nothing.”

Shouto squeezed Jiro’s hand again and they stepped in together.

—

Ichiro and Saburo were sitting at the table without their ice cream, and the latter was getting impatient.

He was just about to call Jiro when the door swung open and his brother stepped in... though Saburo had to blink twice. Jiro was... well, he was dressed well. It wasn’t his usual ragged fashion, he was wearing a denim jacket over a button down. He had his black ripped jeans on, and his spray painted shoes were actually clean. Best of all, he was wearing his glasses and a beanie on his head.

Ichiro seemed to notice it too as he twinned his younger brother and cocked his head to the side. “Jiro!” Ichiro said with a smile.

Jiro raised a hand weakly, his smile lacking the usual confidence. He still held the door open and gestured for someone to come in.

Then both brothers stilled at the other boy that went inside. The other boy was also dressed similarly to Jiro, the near matching outfit saying all that needed to be said.

The duo walked to the table, hands mere inches apart. Jiro looked down at the floor and swallowed. “Ichi-nii. Saburo.” He then held the boy’s hand.

Saburo didn’t think Ichiro was breathing.

“This is my boyfriend. Shouto.” Jiro looked up, his yellow and green eyes filled with nervousness.

Saburo blinked, not expecting this from his brother. It wasn’t that there was anything wrong with it, it was just... Jiro didn’t seem like the type. He really didn’t... well, maybe he just didn’t see the signs. Jiro had tons of female fans, but he would always not know what to do with their admiration or their smiles or their happiness. But, every time a male approaches him and gives maybe a gift or maybe just smiles at him, Jiro’s cheeks are a bit redder than usual.

It wasn’t supposed to take Saburo a million years to figure it out, but it did. Hell, he didn’t even figure it out. It took Jiro telling the two of them for them to find out that he was that way.

He wondered though if Ichiro saw it, even when they were kids or even when he was in T.D.D.

MC B.B. narrowed his eyes after overcoming his initial shock. “Jiro.” He said sharply, nothing kind in those words. That shocked Saburo as much, given that his eldest brother was the one responsible for showing them the world of yaoi ships to begin with. “Would you care to explain?” Ichiro raised an eyebrow.

And Jiro just looked like he was at a loss for words.

—

Jiro’s eyes snapped up to the eldest. Ichiro’s arms were crossed and his entire stature, even while he was sitting down, was tight, like a coil... like he was preparing for a fight.

His heart was beating too fast and he was panicking a little inside.

“Nii-chan... I know it’s not really what you’d expect...” Jiro rubbed the back of his neck. “However I... I’m not really into girls, I mean they’re cute but I prefer guys and... Shouto is a really amazing person and I understand if you-“

But that was when Jiro looked again at his brother’s face to see that his shoulders were shaking and the corner of his lips was quirked up.

“Nii-chan...”

Ichiro laughed and shook his head, shocking the other three boys. “Sorry.” He narrowed his eyes again, but that smirk still remained. “Would you care to explain why you only introduced him now?” He noticed that they were still standing and shifting nervously on their feet. “And sit down will you? I’m not some yakuza that doesn’t have people sit.”

Jiro and Shouto looked at each other then took the two seats in front of his brothers. Jiro let go of Shouto’s hand and folded his own on the table.

Ichiro smiled at Jiro. “Jiro... I’m proud of you.”

Jiro’s eyes widened.

“I’m proud because you told us.” He reaches over and ruffled Jiro’s hair through the beanie. “It takes a lot of courage to say so.” Ichiro then smirked again. “Not that I couldn’t tell.” He added. “You never really cared for girls to begin with anyway. It was either you were shy or... there was always the other option.” The eldest leaned back. His eyes then fixed on Shouto. “Is he treating you well?”

Shouto blinked and looked at Jiro. “Yes.” He managed in a soft voice, unsure of where this conversation was actually going.

Ichiro smiled. “Eh don’t be nervous.” His eyes sparkled. “I was probably the only one who noticed he never had a crush on Momo or Mina from BNHA, but his eyes were glued to the screen when it came to Todoroki... or really any of the shirtless-“

Jiro’s cheeks coloured pink, but his heart was still beating so fast. “Ichi-nii!” He was relieved that the two barely had a reaction and treated it as normal but...

Shouto giggled and Jiro’s heart warmed at it. “I thought you liked Kirishima.”

“Kirishima belongs to Bakugo.” Saburo said with a smile. “Jiro wouldn’t crush on Kirishima.”

Jiro’s mouth started forming into a tentative smile. “I would not.” He looked down at his folded hands. “Are you sure this is okay Ichi-nii?”

“Eh?” Ichiro stopped laughing. “Well, of course.” He looked at the two of them seriously. “Why would not be okay with it? Nothing is wrong.” He leaned forward. “Love is Love.” He smiled. “And again, Jiro, I am proud of you for telling us. Though you have nothing to be afraid of, we would always accept you.”

Saburo nodded at Ichiro’s words. “Right.”

Jiro was silent for a moment and he blinked back the tears in his eyes. He was... overwhelmed at the moment. “Do you think mom and dad-“

Ichiro clicked his tongue. “I cannot speak for them, so don’t ask me.” He gave Jiro a look. “And don’t bother dwelling on it. Live in the now and enjoy it.” He stood up with a groan. He then stretched, raising his arms up and effectively lifting his shirt to expose his lower abs and v-lines.

The movement had Shouto blushing. Jiro saw that from the corner of his eye and he kicked him under the table.

Ichiro put his hands on his hips. “Alright. I’ll get us ice cream.”

“I can pay-“ Shouto started by Ichiro put up a hand.

“Don’t bother.” Ichiro flashed him a winning smile that had the boyfriend melting a little. “What’s your favourite flavour?”

“Uh... cookie dough.” Shouto replied.

“Okay!” Ichiro then walked off to the counter.

“Your brother is hot.” Shouto said to Saburo more than Jiro, though his eyes were fixed on Ichiro’s ass. MC M.B. saw where the eyes were and he scowled.

Jiro then slapped Shouto on the shoulder. Saburo laughed.

“Ow!” Shouto rubbed his shoulder.

“It’s weird when you say it!” Jiro crossed his arms.

“It’s true!”

Saburo was laughing far too hard for it to be decent.

“What are you laughing at you brat?!” Jiro snapped.

Saburo’s eyes sparkled. “Ah well Jiro-chan.” He crooned. “Ichi-nii has always had a step up on you.” He looked at Shouto. “Did you know that-“

“Shut up!” Jiro blushed, but he was so happy with the outcome of this. Happy enough he hand laced their hands together again. “If you have anything to say to my-“ Jiro blushed.

“Your what?” Saburo taunted. “Say it Jiro!”

“My boyfriend!” Jiro managed, his cheeks red. “Then say it to me!”

“It’s about you you dumbass!”

“Quiet down you two!” Ichiro scolded from the counter. “Don’t make a bad impression on Shouto.”

Shouto’s heart swelled that Ichiro hadn’t forgotten his name so quickly.

Jiro sighed and lowered his voice to an acceptable level. Well... if this is how it was. He smiled inside and squeezed Shouto’s hand. He was beyond happy.

#fluff #coming out #hypmic #hypnosis mic #hypnosis microphone #jiro yamada #saburo yamada #ichiro yamada #buster bros

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hypermoyashi · 6 years ago

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Okay, so, hi everyone? I’ve gotten some new followers, which is a bit surprising, and I’m sure some of you are aware of the discourse currently happening the mdzs fandom. Normally, as my about page states, I will not participate in fandom discourse under any circumstances, but as I was personally signaled out in this, I’ll be making an exception just this once. I’ll be placing everything under a cut just so those of you who don’t want this discourse showing up on your dash can avoid it.

Okay, so if you’re unaware, a blocklist was recently created of people in the fandom that minors should avoid/be aware of. I, as well as one of my good fandom friends, was on this list. I will not be posting links to said list in any way, shape, or form, as I believe it is poorly worded and just wholely not handled well in its original context.

I’d like to preface this entire post with one important idea: you curate your own fandom experience. I actually encourage blocking/blacklisting things and people who make you uncomfortable, just be respectful about it. You don’t need to announce it, or let someone know you’re blocking them. If I in any way make you uncomfortable for any reason, and you are uncomfortable talking to me about it to try and fix the problem, then please unfollow me, block me, or whatever will make you the most happy and comfortable. In the end, fandom is about fun, and it shouldn’t be taken too seriously. It shouldn’t be used to hurt people.

I can’t say I’m not upset that I and my friend were included, and while I don’t know most of the people on that list enough to make a judgment, based on the reasons my friend and I were listed, I don’t believe the judgment of the original creator of the list was wholly sound. For full transparency, I am going to include why I, personally, was signaled out.

The first reason is for my submission here: https://mxtxpositivity.tumblr.com/post/183334608470/fic-rec-realize-what-you-never-knew-by

The fic I recommended is a fic that the friend I previously mentioned wrote, and I recommended it because I enjoy it and I enjoy supporting my friend’s writing. Now, the fic in question is about the junior trio, but it is written in a context where they are older and not minors. To be fair, my friend did not tag for this, and the lack of a tag for it was not something that I, as her beta, caught, either. I don’t particularly intend to debate whether or not it’s okay to write sexual content about young characters after they’ve been aged up, as it’s a rather gray area and whether it will bother you will vary. If it does bother you, however, that’s perfectly valid and I encourage you to avoid it. Blacklisting is a wonderful thing, and ao3 now includes a function to exclude ships.

The second reason I was signaled out in this post is for this: http://hypermoyashi.tumblr.com/tagged/yaoi

And just so it’s clear that I have not altered or cleared this in any way, here’s a screenshot with the time and date in the corner:

I would scroll down to show you guys more of the tag, but there is none. My yaoi tag is just two posts. This is the basis for which I was said to “support yaoi.” I’d like to point out that one post is literally a criticism of the genre as a whole. I have no idea why I tagged the second post as yaoi, but it was reblogged three years ago. It is not something I would reblog and tag that way today. I’ve used the same blog, the same username, for well over seven years now. There is bound to be some stuff here that doesn’t reflect who I am today, and there is also bound to be things that I’ve mistagged or not tagged appropriately in the past. I do not have the energy to clean absolutely everything out, but if you would like to point something out to me, I will be happy to change it. For my purposes, I’m not going to be altering my yaoi tag, in case anyone wants to check it for themselves.

Now, just as an off-topic, I’d like to point out that I’m bi/gray ace. I don’t hate yaoi per say, but I do dislike the picture its common tropes paint of the lgbtqa+ community, as anyone who has spoken with me for five minutes about it can tell you.

This is all I was flagged for, but in the name of transparency, I am also going to include something that, had our original poster of the list seen, would’ve been additional reasons for me to land on the list.

I am writing an A.B.O. fic for HOB. It will also contain an explicit scene in the future, and it contains some pretty heavy triggers such as attempted suicide and CSA/abuse. I know A.B.O. tends to be controversial for many, many reasons, but for the record, all characters retain their full facilities during any and all explicit scenes, on or off screen, and are able to consent or not consent to what is going on. Anything of that nature that happens to a minor does not happen on screen and is appropriately tagged as CSA. I also do not endorse or want minors reading this fic, but I’ll get into that later.

Now, does any of this disprove that I’m a potential danger to minors? No, it does not.

For one, disproving a negative is an impossibility. To demonstrate this, I’ll be using the same analogy my statistics teacher used. You have a field. You’re looking for cows. To find some cows, you divide the field up into twenty sections. Unfortunately, you only have the capability to check five of the sections. You check these five sections, and you don’t find any cows. Can you say, for sure, that there are no cows in the field? Nope. Because it’s impossible to check every section, and there could be cows in the sections you don’t check.

I cannot open up the entirety of my memory and history to prove that I have definitely never hurt a minor. It is absolutely never my intention, and if I have, I deeply apologize for it. But I have no way of disproving a negative because it is mathematically impossible.

Now that we’ve gotten up to this point, some of you might be thinking, isn’t treating such a baseless accusation so seriously, in a way, giving it validity? Well, in a way, sort of. The accusation is entirely baseless, yes, and this is going to be the only time I’m going to argue something like this in this way. It upset me, and it’s there, so I want to address it.

Now, I’m going to reference my about page. Here it is:

The text reads, “Hello! I thought, after about five years of owning this blog, give or take, it was probably time to make an about page.

“I mainly write fanfiction, which is almost always posted to ao3 and linked here unless it’s particularly short. Minors are definitely welcome; I don’t reblog or post N**SFW images or videos, nor do I write smut, though please be aware that this blog is “view at your own risk.” I tag for common triggers and potentially harmful content, so it’s up to you to know your limits and blacklist appropriately. That being said, if you need me to tag anything in addition to what I already do, please don’t hesitate to ask!

“My fandoms right now are mainly Bungou Stray Dogs, Heaven Official’s Blessing, Mo Dao Zu Shi, Hakata Tonkotsu Ramens, Pandora Hearts, Vanitas no Carte, Akatsuki no Yona, and D.Gray-man. Please be aware that although I do have particular ships I like, I’m not really that into shipping as a whole.

“I don’t reblog shipping discourse nor will I interact with hostile shippers. If you would like to talk about shipping with me, please do, just be nice! As a bonus, I love platonic relationships, so please talk with me about those if you enjoy them, too.

“ところで、私の日本語はちょっとわるいですけど、話すのが好きです。

“Finally, I consider this blog to be a safe place for me and others that does not discriminate based on race, gender identity, sexual orientation, mental health, physical ability, national origin, or religion. If that bothers you, please click the “back” or “x” button on your browser.

“With all that out of the way, welcome to my blog! I love talking with people, so feel free to message me or leave an ask. I swear you won’t be bothering me. Happy blogging!”

Now, I am going to edit this at some point, because I have written smut now. It’s not posted, but it’s still something I intend to post. But yeah, as of 3/13 around 5pm, that was my about page, and I have not changed it for quite a while. (Sorry I’m not quite as chipper today ^^”)

One of the links on my about page leads to this page:

Which reads:

A quick guide to my tagging system!

my fanfiction: stuff I’ve written

text post: stuff I’ve made/said

q: things posted from my queue (it is a very long queue)

art by op: If there’s no source, then I’m reasonably certain that this art was created by the original poster. If I’m wrong, please let me know and I’ll delete it imeidiately.

icons: whenever I save an icon, whether I use it or not, I reblog it under this tag

personal and/or ramblings: just me talking. Sometimes I won’t even tag these kinds of posts

— mention: normally reserved for common triggers, i.e. “Donald Trump mention” or “sex mention”

n**sfw warning: as stated in my about page, I don’t reblog n**sfw images or videos, but I do reblog n**sfw fic recs (ie links to explicit content) that is unsuitable for minors. If you’re a minor viewing my blog, please blacklist this tag if you feel the need to!

spoilers: anything and everything I think constitutes a spoiler. Sometimes I’m bad about tagging these, though. I don’t tag for specific fandoms, like “su spoilers” or “bsd spoilers,” so please beware of that.

And, for reference, this is the basis for which I generally rate my fics:

G (General Audiences): Anyone can read this

T (Teen Audiences): Anyone 13+ can read this

M (Mature Audiences): Anyone 17/18+ can read this (16 is fine, too, I think, depending on what the reader is comfortable with. My M rated fics often include dark/sexual themes, though, so 17/18 is the more comfortable range)

E (Explicit): Only people who are 18+ should read this (probably not gonna rate anything this since I don’t write smut unless I just really don’t want to endorse any minors reading it)

Again, this should probably be updated as I have written smut, however infrequent. I try to tag for common triggers, and I have asked here that minors under a certain age not read particular fics. All of my fics that depict unhealthy relationships, darker or sexual themes, or anything that I would be uncomfortable with a minor reading are rated Mature or Explicit, depending.

So all in all, I have tried my best to provide a positive experience to anyone who enjoys my content, and I try to tag so that potentially harmful content doesn’t reach those that it might hurt. I’m not perfect, and I can’t control everything. A minor can still go in and read my Explicit/Mature fics on ao3, no matter how much or how loudly I ask them not to. My content is meant to inspire, to show that life can suck, but in the end, everyone is worth it and continue on.

And, on that caveat, I’d like to point out that I generally take a stance of “create and let create.” Freedom of expression is the greatest gift anyone can be given. Yes, avoid content that hurts you, but please don’t lash out at those who create it. Until you know exactly why they’ve created it, what their history is, and what thoughts or feelings they were working through while creating it, please leave them be. Creators should tag their works so people can avoid content that might be harmful to them, but content that is harmful to one person might be another person’s lifeline.

But the reason I’ve laid this all out is that I want you to judge for yourself. Do I seem like someone you want to be friends with? Do I seem like someone harmful? Do I seem like someone you are indifferent to? Please make the decision that is best for you, and if you happen to want to be friends, please let me know ^^

Now, finally, I hope to see a more positive fandom experience come of this. I say all this, however negative or bleak it might be for me, because it was important for me to work through my thoughts, and I hope that something positive can come of honesty and communication.

Please don’t go after the original poster of the list, if you know who they are. It’s better just to let it go. The person seemed to have had good intentions, however ill-executed they were, and talking to them is only going to create more ill will and negativity for everyone. I believe, at least in part, the reason their list is so unfounded and baseless is because the content they cited genuinely hurts them, and when creating the list, they did not look at the full context of everything they were citing. And, well, context is everything, really. This doesn’t really excuse them, as they still hurt people with a largely unhelpful and thoughtless post, but brewing the negative feelings helps no one. I would also like to state that the fact that the content hurts them is not the fault of any of the creators. If you tag appropriately, but someone doesn’t take the time to blacklist or otherwise protect themself from content they know will hurt them, then that’s on them.

Fandom is a really interesting place. It’s full of so many diverse and wonderful people--minors and adults, lgbtqa+ and allies, tons of different nationalities--we should really take more steps to look out for one another. If there’s anything I could be doing better, please let me know. My experience with the mdzs fandom hasn’t been great up to this point, and I want to change that. I love this show, and I also want to love the people who love it alongside me.

Remember, for every not so great person, there are twenty more lovely people just waiting to meet you. And I hope that, from here on, those lovely people get every good thing they deserve.

#discourse #csa mention #abuse mention #rape mention #suicide mention #really if you have any super common triggers please don't read this #not tagging the fandom #and it probably wont show up in the tags because looong #but yeah here is my only participation in discourse #id prefer no reblogs #but feel free to reply #or message me

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boyslaughplus · 6 years ago

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Devlog #34 - Status Update, Character Design, and UI

Hello! It's time for another update on the development status of Brassica. It’s also our first actual devlog purely about Brassica!

After working on separate projects for a while, we are now in the process of getting back on track working on the same game again. Because of that we're happy to announce that the rest of Brassica's Act 2 will be released in March!

It grew a bit in size from what we originally planned but that just means more game for you~

The exact date will be announced when we can more clearly estimate how long the remaining tasks will take but we're in the process of finishing everything up so it shouldn't be too long.

As for Act 3, our current plan is to release it in April. From now on development should be a lot faster but because we mainly worked on it on the side until now, that is still only a rough estimate. We'll definitely keep you updated on any developments regarding the release dates though!

Well, and that's about it for the status update. Because it's been a while since our devlogs actually described much of our development process (and we haven't shared much about our thought processes behind Brassica), we decided to bring that back with today's devlog.

PECTIN will tell you a bit about Saffron and his design while eZombo describes the development of the UI. So without further ado, here we go:

Art - PECTIN

Saffron is the curious prince the player takes control of in Brassica. Before I began concepting him Felix and I defined his character. At this point we already knew he would be one of the princes Sappho tricks into going on the journey. (And would then fall in love with another prince because YaoiJam'18). We soon agreed on naming him Saffron. So I already associated the colours of the spice "saffron" with him here. We also wanted to make him a protagonist with his own personality. Thinking of the player who role-plays him we thought it would be cool to have his character split into three separate personalities he could have: - the cunning and a bit wild prince - the typical goody two-shoes type of hero - and the soft boi who's overwhelmed by the whole predicament and really needs a hug Another external influence was, my intention to try and fuse traditional things with modern sportswear. Brassica is a fairytale but it's told in a contemporary voice. That's where the idea came from. ...Okay. So I had his name, colours I could associate with him, the three archetypes and my goal to fuse sportswear with traditional clothing. Having all of these "pointers" I began looking for reference pictures. I browsed through online stores of popular sports brands to find things that would fit the character. Due to Saffron's character ranging from cute to rather untamed (in the sense that he would climb a tree without hesitation) I thought that wearing shorts would be most suitable and comfy. But for the top and the overall outfit I wanted to let myself get inspired by traditional elements. The name "Saffron" reminded me of the spice and then its use in Indian culture. I never designed a character with Indian influences before and thought researching into that would be interesting. I found a lot of stuff I could translate into the design. Even the leggings Saffron wears were intially inspired by my findings about Indian culture. Here's a visual breakdown of what inspired what (excuse my srawly handwriting >-<):

During the process of drawing out his design, as I always do, I thought about how each component of the outfit would "flow". There're lot's of lines and intersections in his outfit that guide the eyes along the his body:

And here is our boy again as a sprite. Not much different right? Here I put one of his hands in his shorts' pocket, because I think it would suit someone who is either unsure and does that or feels liking hiding something.

That's it about Saffron! I could go on about his colours but I'll save that for when I explain the general artstyle of Brassica! :3

UI - eZombo

Because Brassica was planned as an entry for Yaoi Jam 2018, we thought about ways to keep the scope small. One idea we came up with was to reduce the size of the screen that shows backgrounds and characters so producing the art is a bit faster than filling a full HD 16:9 canvas. One inspiration for that was Sticky Zeitgeist by Porpentine & Rook but something like the Undertale console version where the graphics at the border of the screen change based on the in-game location was also something we considered.

When it came to actually planning the screen, Undertale's influence came through again, because the main area of the screen actually has an aspect ratio of 4:3. This obviously leaves a lot of unused screen space but one thing we knew we could definitely use to fill this was the text box. Having it separate from the main screen also made sure that it didn't overlap with the characters or backgrounds so the space that was reserved for that could be used to its full potential.

With two elements already on the screen, we still had the sides to fill with content. Just using graphics as borders definitely was an option but because Brassica's story plays out a bit like a road movie, we thought having a map of the game world would definitely add to the feeling of that. And to make the UI visually more balanced again, the last bit of free space was then filled with some information on the time of day and how many days were left for the quest of the princes which basically added all the important context for what is going on in the center of the screen.

A first mock-up of the UI featuring a familiar face and St. Bernard...

Around that time, we also developed the idea of presenting the whole game screen like a paper or puppet theater. This seemed like a good way to bring all these different elements together while still supporting the colorful fantasy-ish look of the game art.

I did a quick sketch of how this could look, which turned the mock-up into this:

Aside from adding some more purely graphical elements, I adjusted the text box and the flag that showed the name of the character that is currently speaking. The map was graphical now instead of just a list (which would have given away future locations) and I was overall fairly happy with the direction the UI was going in. A few of the border elements overlapped with the main screen now but I tried to make sure it only happens in areas where we wouldn't put any focus.

After getting some feedback from PECTIN I then went on to work on the final lineart while also trying to simplify all the shapes. By then, the characters were also being concepted so instead of Luke I could put Ode into the mock-up (along with a reference for a possible background style).

As you can see, some unnecessary lines, elements, and text were removed to simplify the look of the UI and make sure that the important elements aren't overshadowed by anything else. Overall I tried to keep the lines clean without making them look overly sterile, so any round shapes are generally drawn freehand instead of using any vector shapes. Except for the compass, moon, and their enclosing arcs. Those just looked sloppy when they weren't exact. Not using fixed line widths was another way to make the lines more organic even when they were perfectly straight. The idea to use different colored flags for each character also came into play now, although Ode's color here is actually used by Hans now…

Colors were next on the agenda. First a basic pass, followed by some adjustments and line colors to make the lines fade more into the background. Having the concepts for the three princes was very helpful for this step because it was important that the UI colors fit into the overall color scheme while keeping the focus on the actual game art. That's why red is only used close to the center and for important UI elements (the current location on the map is also marked in red). The rest of the colors are rather muted and monochrome on purpose with only a little bit of gold to break it up.

Throughout the whole process my main references were old paper theaters but especially during the coloring process I deviated from these references in favor of using colors that would match with most backgrounds.

Once we were happy with the colors, I did a relatively quick shading pass, just adding shadows with a fairly abstract light source to keep most shadows parallel to the lines. I also added some subtle noise to make everything look a bit more organic.

For the most part it still looked too clean though, so PECTIN suggested overlaying the UI with some watercolor textures.

Which lead to this final mock-up and not only solved the problem but also gave the UI a more painterly look that didn't interfere as much with the general artstyle.

Well, but as always, there are still a few things that changed on the way into the engine.

The map was obviously added (which could probably fill a devlog by itself), the text on the side was changed to better reflect the current quest of the princes (although the other sign may or may not return in future acts...), I added a CTC icon and updated the quick menu (although I can't remember why "Load" was removed so maybe that will return again), but most importantly: The text box was reduced from three to two lines of text. This wasn't as much an active decision as it was caused by the fact that small line spacing in Ren'Py cuts of parts of some letters until all lines of text are displayed. There are some games that still do this but personally I don't really like how it looks while the text appears. Increasing the textbox would have caused a lot of work because I would have had to shift around more elements of the UI to keep a balanced layout so it was simply easier to remove a line of text and increase the line spacing.

This had a pretty strong effect on the writing because sentences have to be fairly short now or if that doesn't work, broken up into multiple lines. Even if it wasn't exactly planned, it still influenced the writing style of Brassica and further distinguished it from our other games (although there's more to say on that one) and in hindsight, only two lines of text also look a lot cleaner in this layout.

I could go on about the actual implementation of the UI but this has already been a pretty lengthy post so maybe I'll save it for another devlog.

But that's it for now! We'll be back in two weeks with some more development insights and our current status. We also plan to start posting these devlogs regularly again, so stay tuned for that! As always, thank you so much for reading and we hope you could find a few things of interest in this devlog.

#brassica #fairytale #devlog #gamedev #game #development #otome game #romance #tutorial #visual novel #indiedev #indie #okay

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dragon-hall · 6 years ago

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i dont think yuliy x ryoko is a rare ship (?) because like its the only canon one so far, and more likely the only one in the whole series that was planned, all this hate on ryoko is stupid because how the hell can she shine in a 12 episodes anime where they can hardly carry on the main story till it end ( it was rushed anyway ) and i believe in japan they think otherwise, ryoko is getting a lot of love there thank god ( read that somewhere on pixiv in comments )

I don’t think so, too. Yuliyoko is not a rare ship.

Oh, wait. Incoming rant again, lovelies. Again, this is an open friendly discussion. I’m well aware of the hostilities within the anime so I ask you guys if you ever voice out your opinions to be openminded with each other, yes?

Pretty please with a cherry on top? QuQ

I think the problem is Ryoko’s role is not clear to anybody or it wasn’t made clear to the viewers why she’s there. Her father’s role is clear. He is a sponsor of V Shipping Company who helped Japan during the war so when the jaegers arrive in Japan, they are graciously hosted by him in his own home.

As for Ryoko, I view her as Yuliy’s support in my opinion. Someone nearest his age who he can talk to about random things. Of course, it started in getting to know each other, then knowing each other’s fears and skeletons in their closets, and then comes the determination to cherish the bonds they made. Try as he might to keep her away, nope, she is stuck to him like glue. Sorry, Yuliy.

I was skeptical at first because a girl her age during the 1930s having such courage, stubbornness and forward attitude is rare. So contrasting to Yuliy’s serene and meek attitude when they first met. It’s actually adorable!

“Naoe Ryoko. I’m the landlord’s daughter.”“Yuliy…desu.”“Yuliy-san. What a beautiful name.”

Get straight to the point, Ryoko, looking fearless towards a stranger and then completely coo at his name.

She is a strong girl in my opinion. Someone who wants to prove herself and know the world around her. She had seen things she should not see and that in itself gave her reason to stand by Yuliy. Because Yuliy, young as he is and near her age, is already fighting monsters while she remains closeted within her father’s protection (within good reasons).

Knowing what Yuliy is doing, finding out what monsters he is fighting against, knowing that every fight is life and death for him, it probably helped Ryoko indirectly to develop who she is and know her place in the world. At the same time, Ryoko helped Yuliy get an insight into what a father is. Between them, Ryoko still has a father so being the nearest person he could ask, she tells him about it.

Again, it points to them having similar ages. I’d say about 1 year apart? Her uniform looks like a high school sailor fuku.

About ships…

What I consider a rare pair are the two character who had no interaction whatsoever with each other but they’re shipped anyway. I’d consider Yevgraf/Ryoko a rare pair oh why hello. Mikhail/Yuliy is a canon bromance technically (I’m choosy with incest I tell you this now but I love these two) but for me who also likes BL and yaoi, I ship this bromance to hell and back.

#tenrou: sirius the jaeger #tenrou sirius the jaeger #sirius the jaeger #yuliy #ryoko #ships #rare ships #breakdown

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icyhobi · 8 years ago

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You Deserve Punishment (M)

Description: You never wanted to see them again, you couldn’t bare facing them in the eyes. Not after what you witnessed. It would forever haunt you. Why? Because you discovered their dirty little secret; Park Jimin was the lover of Min Yoonji, who was actually a man.

Pairing: Jimin x Reader x Yoongi

Genre: Smut (M), angst, university!au

Word Count: 6,350

A/N: Extreme vulgar language use. Name calling, and heavy dom/sub undertones. There is also a lot of yaoi (boyxboy) action. Graphic descriptions of sex (oral, etc...) This is a mature read! You have been warned!

Never in a million years, would you have expected to walk into a full 500 student lecture, only to easily spot the two people you never wanted to see again. There was a big lump held in your throat, as you quickly ducked your head down to find an empty seat. Unfortunately for you, the only empty seat you found was exactly a row behind these certain individuals. Trying to sit down as quietly as possible, you mentally screamed, You’ve got to be fucking kidding me! Since when did they come here?!? How could I not have known?!?

The professor started off by introducing himself, and welcoming all the students to the new school year. You had been extremely excited to start university as a freshman, planning to forget all the bad and embarrassing memories high school came with. But somehow fate decided to be cruel, as you glared daggers into the back of the heads of the two beings who left you traumatized in your senior year. You watched as the one with messy blonde hair, casually leaned into the older man with wavy black hair. You also shamelessly watched, as the blonde started to press light pepper kisses to the elder’s neck. Ohhhh……how you witnessed much naughtier sights back 12th grade, which you wish you could forget so very badly. While the blonde was continuing with his kisses, you noticed the older man slowly move has large hand onto the blonde’s thigh. He gripped harshly, and the blonde let out the quietest grunt/moan then stopped his actions.

For crying out loud, THEY’RE IN BLOODY PUBLIC!! DO THEY HAVE NO SHAME?! You were screaming in your head. But the funny thing was, you definitely should have been used to seeing those sinful acts. Why?.........Because nothing will compare to what happened that fateful day, the day you discovered their scandalous little secret; assistant teacher Min Yoonji, is actually a man, who is the lover of assistant teacher Park Jimin.

Finally, the last school year started. You were now a 12th grader, and was just ready to get the year over with. You honestly hated high school. It was nothing like how cool it was shown in movies and tv, it was just dumb hormonal/dramatic teenagers acting as if they were adults. You always dreamed to be the popular girl, but nope………. you were always seen as that shy quiet girl who sits in the back of every class, thus you didn’t really have that many close friends.

Blankly staring at your class schedule, you lifelessly groaned as you walked to your class, hoping this year will just speed by. Walking in, you clenched your fists as your eye itched; the only empty seat was a desk smack dab in the front. You nervously walked to the desk, and sat down quietly. As you looked down to reach in your bag, that’s when you noticed three pairs of legs at the front of the class. You looked up and were greeted by a holy sight; a man with messy blonde hair and a strong build, and a woman with lean long legs and pale milky skin.

“Alright class, I’m sure most of you remember me as your 11th grade science teacher, and I’m happy to say I’ll also be teaching you for your final year!”, your regular teacher sarcastically said.

You heard a couple of groans, before he continued, “And over here, I’d like if I could introduce our new teaching assistants for the year, Mr. Park Jimin and Ms. Min Yoonji”

The woman with the pale skin walked out first and said with a surprisingly deep silky voice, “Hello everyone, my name is Min Yoonji, and I’m a third-year engineering student in university”.

“Hey everyone, my name is Park Jimin, and I’m a second-year life science student in university”, said the man with the insanely good looks.

You saw the reaction of the class, and could easily tell that you weren’t the only one who was awestruck by your attractive new TAs. All the girls where whispering and smiling at Jimin, to which he let out a small wink at, while the boys shamelessly stared at Yoonji’s legs. ‘Oh great, we get a fuckboi and a super model as our new TAs……….’ You mentally groaned. Why couldn’t this year just go by already?

And with that thought in mind, the year did seemingly speed by. It was already the week before your final exams and you couldn’t be anymore happier as you were finally going to graduate. But to your surprise, this year wasn’t so bad, as your TAs were extremely helpful in understanding course material. And to your embarrassment, you had completely fallen head over heals for Jimin. His voice was so smooth, and his dress shirts helped show off his muscular physique, to which your mouth would water at. On the other hand, Yoonji was quite intimidating. She had a permanent bitch face, wasn’t feminine at all, and she kind of had an icy tone to her voice. But there was still no doubt that she was pretty, and to your horror, you found yourself questioning your sexually at times because of how attractive she could be.

Still daydreaming about your TAs in class, you didn’t notice a pair of long slender legs stand right in front of your desk. “Hey blank face, class is over. Go home and study”, Yoonji spoke as she lightly poked your check.

Coming out of your daze, you pouted while rubbing your cheek, “Blank face? My face looks blank?”

Seeing the cute pout to your mouth, Yoonji’s breath quickened and she licked her lips and smirked, “Well yea, you are blank face because you keep zoning out with a blank look on your face. Haha, I don’t mean to insult you Y/n, I’m just teasing. You are…….kind of cute…you know that right?” As she’s done asking this, she slowly reaches out to grab a strand of hair that is falling out of your ponytail. Your quite in shock as you wouldn’t consider yourself cute at all. In fact, there were much prettier girls in this class you thought, and just couldn’t help but stare curiously at Yoonji.

Jimin on the other hand, was carefully looking at the exchange that was going on between you and Yoonji, then gritted his teeth. He quickly walked his way over to the both of you, and yanks Yoonji’s hand back before she can touch your hair. Yoonji, being a bit shocked by Jimin’s aggressiveness, glares at him. Jimin bitterly smiles at Yoonji, then puts on the best fake smile turning towards you to calmly state, “Well of course Y/N knows she’s cute, I mean you probably get asked out a lot, right?”.

Now you start blushing immediately. Having the ultimate heartthrob Park Jimin call you cute, made you feel giddy inside. But the truth was, you’ve never actually dated anyone. No one bothered to talk to you, or even get to know you because you were so shy. You tucked a stray hair behind your ear, while looking down quietly stating, “Well actually………I’ve never been asked out before………. i guess I’m just to quiet for anyone to notice me..”

Jimin not being the least bit surprised by your answer, put fake surprise in his tone, “Really? But you’re sooooo cute! And plus, you’re not that shy with me and Yoonji anymore, right? But don’t worry, some guy will come your way.” Jimin wasn’t technically lying to you, as he did think you were cute, but he’s been with so many more attractive women, and has eyes for only one person. But this said person was too busy trying to converse with you, which made him become slightly irritated.

“Ohh… well thank you Jimin and Yoonji. That was really nice to hear, but its getting late, and I gotta go and study for exams……thank you again, and bye!” With that said, you quickly scrambled out of your seat grabbing your bag, rushing out of the classroom with a red face and hearing faint “byes” in return.

After your leave, both Yoonji and Jimin were silent. Before Jimin could say anything, Yoonji put a finger to her lips, signalling Jimin to shut up. She slowly walked towards the door, shut it, and turned the knob to lock it. “Jimin, you’ve been very bad……..”, she said in her “feminine” voice. Before Jimin could reply, she quickly interrupted, “I didn’t know little Jiminie would get so aggressive because of a cute little girl……..”.

Jimin gulped, then clenched his fists, bitterly speaking, “Why do you keep going to her? I know you’ve been with far hotter women than Y/n….what makes her so fucking special huh? I could clearly see your dick twitch at her voice.”

Yoonji mockingly kept up with the feminine voice and threateningly spoke, “Awww poor Jimin is so jealous of cute little Y/n, that you even bad mouthed your “noona”…….bad boys deserve punishment no? You need to be disciplined Park Jimin.”

You were getting your coat from your locker, when you realized your ring was missing. It was your favourite ring, as you received it on your 18th birthday which passed not too long ago. ‘Fuck, where is it?’ You start to panic, but remember you took it off in class when writing notes. You then quickly dash back to the classroom, hoping the door is unlocked. ‘Please don’t be locked’……you hoped.

When you arrived at the class door, you find it closed shut and are about to grab the handle to open it……. but then hear something that makes you stay frozen.

“Ahhhh hyung………. please…. I’m sorry…”

A deep mocking laugh is heard, “Now your sorry? Noo baby boy, you have to finish till you’ve learned your lesson from bad-mouthing your hyung…”

What you hear next, sounds like the apologetic person is choking, and you can easily identify that person as Jimin. But who was the other person? There was no way it was Yoonji, as this person clearly had a man’s voice. Beginning to panic that someone was strangling Jimin, you grab the door’s knob and swing it open in one swift movement……. But the sight you see before you would leave you forever traumatized, as you would never have expected to see such a thing. On the floor was Jimin on his knees, with his black tie wrapped around his wrists behind his back. Standing right in front of him was Yoonji, with her skirt and stockings pulled down to her shins. But what made your eyeballs practically jump out of their sockets, was that Jimin wasn’t getting choked, he was getting deepthroated…… by Yoonji.

“You……have..a d-ddick? You’re a man? I-I I d-don’t understand…….” you quietly say before you can stop yourself.

At the sound of your voice Yoongi lets out a deep moan, and finally shoots his white hot load down Jimin’s mouth. He then looks at you with a fucked-out expression, and calmly states in his real voice “Y/n……. you shouldn’t leave your mouth hanging open out in front of your oppas….”

OPPAS?!? So many questions are running through your mind but the most logical action hits you first; you needed to get out of there. You quickly turn on your heel, and start sprinting out while yelling, “I’m so sorry! I promise I won’t tell anyone!”

Before Yoongi can call you back, your already out the door. He groans in frustration, and looks down at Jimin who is wiping up the cum that’s dripping down his chin. Yoongi brings Jimin to a stand, and kisses him gently on the lips, sighing again.

“I’m sorry for getting mad at you hyung……” Jimin timidly speaks, trying to break the silence. He then looks at the wide-open door from which you ran out of, and notices a small glint in the corner of his eye. He turns to look at the glint, and sees that it’s a ring. He picks it up and examines it, realizing that it belonged to you. “I think it’s Y/n’s……. that’s probably why she came back.”

Yoongi looks at the ring, and smiles, but then remembers how easily you opened the door. “I swear I locked the damn door. This schools so fucking old that a bloody door can’t even work.”

It’s safe to say that, after witnessing the sinful act you basically flunked your exams. Whenever you tried to focus on studying, you just kept imaging Jimin getting a cock shoved down his throat, and Yoonji’s deep moan……. was his real name even Yoonji? You quietly thought to yourself as you kept staring at the back of their heads. Jimin’s hair looked about the same since the last time you saw him, which is when you caught the incident. When you looked over to “Yoonji’s” hair, you noticed that he still had black hair, but it was remarkably shorter, making you assume he wore a wig when he was a TA. He was also wearing men’s clothing now, and from the side view of his face, you were starting to blush as you realized he was an extremely attractive male like Jimin.

Still, so many questions ran through your mind, as in why did he even dress up as a girl in the first place? You know for a fact that both him and Jimin aren’t TA’s anymore, as you remember they mentioned they were only doing it for one year. And you should have asked which university they attended!! If I’d known they both attended this university, I probably would’ve accepted another offer, you mentally scolded yourself.

Its not like you hated them or anything, it was just more of the fact that you were too embarrassed to ever face them again. You literally saw Jimin giving a blowjob, to a person you thought was a woman. Looking over at the elder again, you looked over his physique and questioned yourself; you could clearly tell he had the body of a man. Why didn’t you notice sooner? He clearly had wide broad shoulders, and he was even an inch taller than Jimin, but you just assumed he was a triangularly shaped female. And with his uniform, which included a skirt, it was even harder to tell that he was actually a man.

“I’m so stupid….”, you muttered under your breath.

Of course, no one paid any attention to you as they were busy whispering to friends or listening to the professor, except for two individuals in front of you.

Jimin was still leaning on Yoongi when he heard your voice. His ears perked up, and he glanced at Yoongi to see that he also heard it. He slowly turned around, and saw you for the first time since the ‘incident’.

You let your hair down, instead of your usual ponytail he noticed. You also wore a bit more makeup, making your eyes pop out. Your lips still looked a bit pouty as you were silently scrolling through your phone. Those lips………. He really hated your lips. Those were the lips which made Yoongi want to kiss you. Yoongi was his. To Jimin, you were just some stupid bitch he wished to have never met. He found himself glaring at you, and that’s when he felt Yoongi hold onto his hand.

It was Yoongi’s turn to look at you, and he can honestly say that he was pleased at your appearance. He still remembered seeing you walk in a bit late on your first day of class. As soon as he saw you, there was just something about your shyness, and the way you acted which attracted him. You were different from the other girls, which he liked. He learned throughout the year that if you had a problem with a question, you wouldn’t ask for help. So, he would take it upon himself to always talk to you first about it. And the more he was able to see you break out of your shyness, the more attracted he was becoming. Of course, Jimin noticed him purposely always walking by your desk and wasn’t so happy about it. It caused many arguments between them, which resulted in angry make up sex (usually Yoongi would be ramming his dick up Jimin’s ass) but that’s what they both liked. He was in no doubt in love with Jimin, but he still found himself attracted to you. And when his dick started to twitch at the memory of you in your short school uniform, he found himself smirking.

“Y/n?” he whispered.

Hearing that deep voice, you dropped your phone in shock and let out a quiet gasp. Oh fucking hell, they noticed me……you mentally cursed. Not wanting to look them both in the eyes, you quickly lied “Uhhh……. I think I’m in the wrong class……BYE”. And with that, you were doing fucking hurdles trying to jump over people’s legs to sprint out of the lecture hall. You’re just about to reach the door, when two different arms come and wrap around your waist pushing you outside. You can already tell who these two individuals are, as they both lead you outside to the food court. Your heart is beating deadly fast, and you’re about to raise your voice to protest, but a much deeper voice interrupts.

“Y/n………….is that how you greet your oppas? I’m quite disappointed……….I would have never assumed you could be a bad girl…..”

BAD GIRL?!?!?! “S-sorry, I just……I didn’t know what to say…”, you timidly spoke. This was so unreal. Two of the hottest guys you’d ever seen, were walking with their arms around your waist, but all you wanted to do was die. Your face was burning hot and you quickly take a glance at both of them; Jimin being on your left, staring straight ahead and “Yoonji” being on your right, smirking at you. Even though both weren’t that much taller than you, maybe by a few centimetres at most, you were still extremely intimidated.

You couldn’t bare the silence of walking, so you blurted “Is Yoonji even your real name?”

Yoongi didn’t even flinch, and continued walking, while Jimin tightened his grip on your waist. A quiet chuckle came from the older male, “Haha, I guess you never got to find out my real name, did you? If you didn’t bolt out the door that day, I would’ve happily told you.”

Jimin getting more irritated by your presence, coldly replies “His name is Yoongi.” He watched as the said man sent him a glare, and you nodding a quiet “ohh”. He really didn’t care about you, it was Yoongi who made him get up and chase you with him. Why is Yoongi so hooked on this bitch? I’m so much better than this basic whore. But even as he was telling himself this, he started to slowly caress your waist unknowingly. He took another glance at you, and could clearly see you were uncomfortable. Hell, he was too. All he wanted was to go back to his and Yoongi’s apartment, and fuck like there was no tomorrow. He was getting so frustrated that he gripped your waist a bit too harshly, causing you to let out a little squeak.

Yoongi felt his breath quicken at your little sound, and needed to go and find a place to sit now. Jimin on the other hand, was horrified when he felt his dick twitch in his tight ripped jeans at your squeak. What the fuck?!?! I’m not attracted to her, I’m not attracted, IM FUCKING NOT. My dick better stop getting hard…….FUCK. “OKAAYYY, I think I found a nice table for us.” Jimin squeaked, shoving you not so gently into the corner spot abruptly. He then slid in beside you, not wanting you anywhere near Yoongi. Yoongi took notice of this, and smirked when he realized an evident bulge in Jimin’s jeans.

“Aww Jiminie don’t be so rough with her, maybe she’s not into that…….”, Yoongi teased Jimin, while winking at you from across the table.

Jimin clenched his eyes shut, and started to groan. This could not be happening to him. How was he getting so turned on by your little actions suddenly?! That’s never happened to him before, especially not from a female. The only other time this happened to him, was when he first met Yoongi………. FUCK NO! Fuck this stupid dumbass bitch with her cursed cuteness…...C’mon Jimin get a fucking hold of yourself! She isn’t even that pretty…………. but even as he thought that, he knew he was lying to himself. He suddenly put his head in his hands and groaned out “ahhh fuuccckk”.

Being slightly alarmed by his weird behaviour, you gently put your hand on his arm. “Uhh Jimin? Are you okay?”, you genuinely asked. He flinched under your touch, which made you grip him a bit harder, being worried he might be sick.

Yoongi was watching the exchange between you two, with a huge smile on his face. He knew Jimin was becoming more attracted to you, it was completely obvious. He and Jimin spent countless arguments about you, since he mentioned to Jimin that he might’ve been interested in you. Nonetheless, it always ended with Jimin becoming jealous, and saying that “she’s nothing special hyung”. But Yoongi knew you were special, and now he could tell Jimin was also getting affected by you. He smiled as he saw his baby boy………being seduced by his innocent baby girl. Ohhh, how he liked the picture in front of him and the thought came to his mind; you would definitely be both of theirs.

“Y/n, Jimin has just been having a headache since morning”, Yoongi’s rough voice caught your attention, while Jimin still groaned. “Don’t worry about him…….I’ll take care of him soon.”

You weren’t that dense, so you knew by the way his sultry tone mentioned “take care”, it most likely meant something sexual. Starting to blush again at the memories of catching them in the act, you cleared your throat and asked, “So why did you bring me here?” Why did they even come running after you? You’re surprised they even remembered your face………..you didn’t think you would be that memorable. And to make matters even worse, your attraction to stupid Jimin never went away. So what if you found out he was gay? There was no denying how undeniably irresistible he is. And now sitting in front of Yoongi, you were ashamed when your heart would quicken when he would stare at you. God, why are they both so fucking hot? Just kill me now……

“Well both me and Jimin always wanted to explain to you about the situation you caught us in that day. I could explain why I was dressed up as a girl, and it wasn’t fucking fun, trust me. So, will you let us explain?”

Jimin quietly murmured, “yes, just let us tell you what happened.”

You looked at them both, smiled a bit, then nodded your head signalling for them to start.

Six months of university had already passed, and it was safe to say that you enjoyed it a lot better than high school. Surprisingly enough, the two people you hanged out with the most was Yoongi and Jimin. That day they dragged you into the food court, you learned that they both also major in Psychology, which lead them to their biggest experiment; to see how genders affect teaching. They needed to compare between a male and female, so since Yoongi had a leaner built than Jimin, he could pass for being a girl more easily. Not even your regular teacher knew about the secret, only the principle of the high school knew. After each class, they would write up reports on their interactions with students, then compare. When the school year was over, they had to make a presentation about the experiment they attempted, and present it to their psych class. (They both received the highest mark in the class for it.) You admired both of their dedication to the experiment they conducted. Especially Yoongi, as he had to keep cosplaying a girl for an entire year. Of course, they mentioned that they’re both dating, so that would explain why you found Jimin sucking Yoongi’s dick that fateful day. But something still bothered you whenever you would go over to their apartment, or just go anywhere with them; Jimin was abnormally cold to you. Whenever you three would hang out, he would rarely even talk to you, or just completely ignore your presence. Yoongi, would try his best to include you in on all the conversations, which you were extremely grateful for. But what happened to the charming Park Jimin you remembered? His smooth voice, and playboy charms all evaporated when you were around. Maybe he just didn’t really like you……. but he use to act like himself before you found out their secret, what happened? And for that same reason, you would much rather avoid being alone in is presence.

“Listen Y/n, I’ll be a bit late getting to my apartment today. Jimin should be there already, so he’ll let you in.” Yoongi spoke with his deep voice over the phone.

Groaning, you replied “But Yooooongiiiiii! It’s Friday! It’s movie night! How could you still be at school this late?”

“Ugh, I know. It’s just the professor asked me to stay back to help tutor some dumbass freshman like you” he joked. Before you could retort, he said “Don’t worry, I’ll be there soon, blank face. And plus, Jimin is there, have some fun with him.”

“Can you drop ‘blank face’ already? You said it’s not an insult, but I still find it insulting!”

Yoongi smiled, and soothingly said “Okay fine I’ll stop, go have some fun with Jiminie, Y/n.”

“But wai-” but Yoongi had already hung up, causing you to scream internally. What the fuck am I suppose to do with Jimin? He doesn’t even like me………UGHH. Sighing for the tenth time, you finally started to get ready to head over to Jimin and Yoongi’s shared apartment.

Going up on the familiar elevator to their floor was nerve-wracking. Why couldn’t Jimin be the one who came late instead of Yoongi? They were both incredibly smart, (to which you were envious of) so why couldn’t Jimin be the one to stay back and tutor? You finally got out of the elevator, and walked up to their door. Taking a deep breath, you knocked cautiously three times.

Jimin was in the middle of writing his lab report for his microbiology class, when his phone started ringing. He went to pick it up, and smiled when he saw it was Yoongi.

“Baaaabbbyyyy……….” Jimin whined.

“Jiiimmiiiniee” Yoongi replied.

“What’s up?”

“Mmm, nothing, its just I’m gonna be late coming home. I have to stay back and tutor some first years.”

“What? But it’s movie night, isn’t Y/n coming over?”

“Yeaa she is Jimin. And you’re gonna have fun with her.”

Jimin was already starting to panic, “What? No hyung! Just cancel! She can come over tomorrow when you’re here, or later when you come home.”

Yoongi was smiling to himself, then started laughing, “Ahh Jimin, why are you so afraid of her? You’re always so awkward around Y/n, she probably thinks you don’t even like her…”

“But……. I don’t like her.”

Yoongi snorted, “Tchh Jiminie, you know I don’t like it when you lie to me.” Jimin was about to say he wasn’t lying but Yoongi interrupted him, “Don’t lie to me baby. Do I need to punish you again? I know you act quiet around Y/n cause you’re afraid of admitting you’re attracted to her.”

Jimin getting flustered, aggressively responded, “Hyung can you stop fucking around?!! I don’t like her. Why would I? I only need you baby, so stop saying nonsense.”

Yoongi sighed “Jimin, it’s ok if you want her. I want her too, sooo fucking badly. Just imagine shoving your cock down her tight pussy, while I fuck your firm ass.”

“Hyung…. stop, please….”

“No Jimin. I know you’re scared of her because it’s hard to control yourself around her. I have the same problem. I see you holding onto your dick whenever she’s around, I know you can’t resist her plump ass.”

“Fucking stop hyung!”

“Just imagine spanking it Jiminie, like how I have to spank you sometimes. I know you fucking love the pain I put on you Jimin. But, what if you got to do it to her hmmm? Making her beg to let her cum, with tears running down her pretty face. Hmmm, or maybe you want her to ride you? Watching her bounce up and down your thick red cock, and then letting your sweet cum drip down her wet pussy……. you’d like that Jimin, wouldn’t you?

With a hand rubbing his dick and his breathing uneven, he bitterly says “I fucking hate you Yoongi…”

Yoongi, being satisfied with Jimin’s reaction, sweetly replies “She could be our baby girl Jimin, think about it okay? Have fun with her baby.” And then Yoongi hung up.

With his dick getting bigger by the second, he cried out in frustration. He was so sure that he would never really want a woman again, but then you came along. There was just something so attractive, and addicting about you, it was driving him crazy! He always said you were such a basic girl and nothing special, but the more he got to know you, the deeper he was falling. He hated you. He hated your fucking guts for doing this to him. He was so turned on by the mere thought of you, that he was about to pull down his sweatpants and jerk himself right there, until he heard three knocks at the door.

Oh fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fucking hell, stupid ass Yoongi gave no warning to what time she`d be here. FUCK my dick is too hard! Yoongi made me get hard on purpose, fuck him. “Uhh... just a sec” Jimin shouted. He tugged his sweater over his crotch, to at least try and make his bulge look less noticeable. He then headed towards the door, looking through the peephole to confirm it was you. He saw you standing there in your oversized winter coat looking cold, so he unlocked the door, and let you in.

“Hi...” you said nicely as you walked in, taking your coat off.

“Hey” Jimin quietly says, taking notice of your outfit; black tights with some parts on the side having a see-through design, and an oversized maroon sweater. He saw you taking off your shoes, revealing your leopard fuzzy socks. Why is everything so fucking cute about her?!?

Taking your shoes off, you looked at Jimin and noticed that he was breathing unevenly, and his cheeks were flushed. “Hey Jimin, have you been running around or something? You look kind of out of breath” you questioned.

Jimin started to grow even more red, and just murmured “yea, I was just doing push-ups a couple of minutes ago.” Smooth one Jimin.

Seeing you just standing there shyly made his cock ache more, and he couldn’t handle it. “OKAYYY, sooo I have a microbiology lab report due soon, so imma finish that. You can go into the living room and watch some tv. Don’t worry, it shouldn’t take me too long” he said abruptly. And with that, he quickly rushed into his shared room with Yoongi, and shut the door, leaving you alone in the hall.

Once in his room, he sat down on his bed, and instantly pulled his pants and boxers down. His big, red hot dick sprang free allowing him to sigh in relief. He slowly brought his index finger to the tip of his hole, then slowly ran it down along the prominent vein on the underside of his length. “Fuucccckkkk”, he shudders as he’s so very sensitive at this moment. The fact that you were in the living room not too far from him, made his breathing even heavier. He couldn’t lie to himself anymore; he wanted you just as bad as Yoongi wanted you. And with that, he felt no guilt when he roughly gripped his length and started to pump furiously to the thought of you.

You were sitting peacefully on the living room couch watching some Maury, until the service cut out. You patiently waited for two minutes until you got irritated. Dammit!! Was Eric the father or not?!?! Nooooo! Stupid snow storm! You decided you would manually try to fix it, as when your tv cut out, you could usually reboot the satellite. It was kind of just luck that it worked again sometimes, but it was better to do that than to wait till it fixes on its own. You got up from your seat, and headed towards the tv to examine it. Jimin and Yoongi had a big expensive flatscreen, which was completely different from your cheap one. How the fuck do I work this? Maybe if I push this button……no…no…I definitely don’t wanna break it. Ughhh, I’ll just ask Jimin to help me…

You nervously walked to Jimin’s room, and knocked on his door. “Jimin?”

Jimin was completely oblivious to your presence behind his door, as he was too lost in his own pleasure. He was quickening his pace on his dick, having his precum act as a lubricant to thrust faster in his hand.

Slightly confused, you knocked on his door again, “Jimin, are you in here?” He said he was finishing his lab report in his room, didn’t he? Why wasn’t he answering you? Scratching your head, you had a familiar feeling of Déja vu, but shook it off and opened the door.

Jimin didn’t hear the door open, but he saw the hallway light crack into his room, signalling someone had entered. He quickly looked up in surprise as he saw you standing there, with your mouth hanging open and your eyes wide. Ahh…. the humiliation of getting caught in the act again….

You stood there gawking at his thick dick and thighs. How could this have happened again? Why is it, that you have the absolute worst timing ever known in human history? Coming to your senses you blurted out “I’m so sorry!!!!!!!!! Go ahead and continue!” Then you bolted down the hall and jumped onto the sofa covering your red face. Oh my god, why does this keep happening?!

While you were freaking out in the living room, Jimin still sat quietly on his bed, feeling completely humiliated and exposed. But then he remembered the first time you caught him and Yoongi in the act in your old classroom. If you would have just fucking knocked, he wouldn’t have to be dealing with this problem. He wouldn’t have to feel humiliated, and you would have never found out about their little secret to begin with. You and terrible lack of politeness to knock first when entering, was the problem. YOU were the problem. With Jimin’s irrational mindset, his humiliation turned into anger. He pulled his pants back up, then stomped his way out of his room directly towards you.

“DO YOU NOT KNOW HOW TO FUCKING KNOCK?!?”

Jimin’s loud outburst terrified you, but you were quick to apologize “Jimin I’m so sorry! I really am! I did knock, but I guess you didn’t hear! I even called your name!”

“STOP LYING YOU STUPID BITCH!” Jimin was just so angry that he was falling in love with you, that he didn’t realize what he was saying.

You felt your eyes burn at his comment. There was so much venom laced with his voice that you felt he was telling the truth. I guess he really doesn’t like me…But you didn’t wanna back down because you weren’t lying.

“I’m not fucking lying Park Jimin! You’re acting crazy! I know you don’t like me hanging around you guys, and I’m truly sorry for what I did to make you hate me so much! But you’re the one who keeps acting like an asshole to me! You’re just a jerk!” you screeched.

He knew he was acting crazy, he knew he was being incredibly rude, but he didn’t want to listen to you, because if you didn’t leave now, there’d be no way for him to resist you any longer. “Just fuck off already you dumb slut, Yoongi doesn’t even like you either! He was just trying to explain our situation back then. No one wanted a friendship with you. Go back to being the loner girl you once were.”

Now you could feel the tears starting to prick at your eyelids. How dare he? You knew Yoongi wasn’t like that……. there was just no fucking way. “Why do you want me to leave so badly huh? Why do you hate me so much? You’re just speaking bullshit ‘oppa’. God, I wish Yoongi was here. He could just shut you up by shoving his dick down your throat……. like the good little sub you are….” you said with venom in your voice. You didn’t wait for a reply, you just started to head towards the door.

You’re just about to grab your shoes until you feel Jimin’s strong arms come and wrap around your waist, hoisting you up over his shoulder. You start struggling to be let free, but Jimin just lifts your sweater up to your waist, then smacks your ass……. hard. You gasp out in surprise/pain and are about to punch him in his back, until he throws you roughly against his bed. You try to get up, only for him to lean over you and pin both of your arms down.

You start to struggle again before Jimin growls against your ear, “The reason I wanted you to leave is because I couldn’t control myself from you. Every time I see you, all want is to bend you over and fuck you till you beg for me to stop………But you’ve disappointed me Y/n. You disrespected your oppa. You’re so bad Y/n………. and bad girls deserve punishment.”

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